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donatist_n who_o ought_v to_o have_v believe_v more_o firm_o the_o church_n doctrine_n upon_o that_o one_o potent_a proof_n of_o the_o apostle_n 1._o tim_n 3._o 15._o the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n than_o for_o all_o the_o latter_a wonder_n do_v in_o the_o church_n yet_o these_o have_v à _fw-fr mighty_a force_n and_o be_v strong_a inducement_n so_o far_o as_o motive_n can_v reach_v but_o not_o the_o chief_a and_o principal_a cause_n of_o any_o man_n belief_n or_o assent_v read_v then_o s._n augustine_n word_n thus_o the_o church_n be_v not_o make_v manifest_a by_o her_o latter_a miracle_n to_o a_o donatist_n who_o cavil_v at_o such_o wonder_n but_o principal_o by_o scripture_n which_o he_o admit_n and_o will_v like_o protestant_n be_v try_v by_o you_o have_v the_o saint_n full_a sense_n and_o a_o great_a truth_n with_o it_o whereof_o there_o can_v be_v no_o doubt_n at_o all_o when_o lib._n contra_n epist_n fundamentâ—_n c._n 4._o 5._o he_o demonstrat_n the_o church_n by_o her_o miracle_n