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gracious_a inclination_n for_o the_o good_a of_o that_o kingdom_n be_v keep_v from_o they_o that_o there_o be_v a_o monopoly_n of_o the_o sole_a trade_n of_o tobacco_n of_o more_o gain_n to_o the_o party_n interest_v therein_o than_o the_o king_n be_v whole_a revenue_n in_o ireland_n the_o destroy_n of_o the_o plantation_n of_o london-derry_n the_o exorbitant_a power_n of_o the_o high_a commission_n which_o cry_v loud_a in_o all_o the_o three_o kingdom_n the_o proclamation_n forbid_v any_o to_o depart_v thence_o for_o england_n without_o licence_n and_o pay_v dear_a for_o it_o the_o many_o subsidy_n give_v and_o monies_n raise_v for_o the_o king_n and_o still_o he_o be_v in_o debt_n and_o therefore_o demand_v a_o account_n of_o his_o treasure_n and_o desire_v present_a redress_n or_o access_n to_o his_o majesty_n a_o copy_n of_o the_o remonstrance_n be_v deliver_v in_o under_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o clerk_n of_o the_o parliament_n there_o and_o be_v read_v and_o shall_v be_v enter_v if_o so_o order_v that_o the_o secretary_n there_o mr._n slingsby_n and_o mr._n little_a be_v require_v to_o over_o send_v hither_o the_o book_n of_o entry_n of_o the_o several_a petition_n present_v to_o the_o late_a lord_n deputy_n now_o lord_n lieutenant_n of_o ireland_n and_o the_o several_a order_n and_o proceed_n thereupon_o make_v that_o mr._n little_a the_o young_a and_o mr._n carpenter_n who_o have_v the_o monopoly_n for_o tobacco_n be_v require_v to_o send_v hither_o those_o warrant_n by_o which_o tobacco_n they_o demand_v and_o have_v lay_v those_o tax_n upon_o tobacco_n that_o the_o several_a affair_n of_o the_o customhouse_n and_o port_n viz._n dublin_n kingsale_n yowhall_n waterford_n cork_n galloway_n carrick-fergus_n and_o bangor_n imposition_n be_v require_v to_o send_v hither_o their_o book_n of_o entry_n whereby_o the_o imposition_n lay_v upon_o several_a commodity_n may_v appear_v there_o be_v several_a warrant_n issue_v forth_o according_a to_o this_o order_n and_o
quality_n and_o trust_n be_v in_o ireland_n material_a witness_n to_o be_v examine_v as_o the_o master_n of_o the_o roll_n the_o lord_n chancellor_n and_o other_o these_o can_v hardly_o be_v spare_v to_o come_v hither_o to_o give_v their_o testimony_n the_o committee_n desire_v the_o advice_n of_o the_o house_n in_o this_o particular_a which_o without_o their_o judgement_n can_v be_v determine_v to_o think_v of_o some_o way_n how_o these_o party_n may_v have_v their_o testimony_n take_v and_o the_o truth_n may_v be_v know_v and_o justice_n do_v this_o whole_a matter_n thus_o report_a from_o the_o committee_n for_o irish_a affair_n be_v recommit_v to_o the_o same_o committee_n again_o to_o consider_v of_o it_o and_o to_o draw_v those_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v inquire_v of_o under_o apt_a head_n and_o so_o present_v they_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o this_o house_n to_o proceed_v according_o mr._n maynard_n mr._n st._n johns_n mr._n hide_v mr._n whistler_n mr._n jeofrey_n palmer_n mr._n glyn_n mr._n solicitor_n this_o committee_n be_v to_o collect_v and_o offer_v to_o this_o house_n reason_n for_o this_o house_n to_o make_v use_n of_o and_o insist_v upon_o in_o maintenance_n of_o that_o point_n of_o the_o message_n of_o this_o house_n to_o the_o lord_n which_o desire_v the_o presence_n of_o some_o of_o the_o member_n of_o this_o house_n at_o the_o examination_n of_o such_o witness_n as_o shall_v be_v propose_v by_o this_o house_n in_o the_o accusation_n of_o the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n to_o the_o right_n honourable_a the_o lord-deputy_n the_o humble_a and_o just_a remonstrance_n of_o the_o knight_n citizens_z and_o burgess_n of_o the_o parliament_n assemble_v show_v that_o in_o all_o age_n since_o the_o happy_a subjection_n of_o this_o kingdom_n to_o the_o imperial_a crown_n of_o england_n it_o be_v and_o be_v a_o principal_a study_n and_o princely_a care_n of_o his_o majesty_n and_o his_o noble_a progenitor_n king_n and_o queen_n of_o england_n and_o ireland_n to_o the_o vast_a expense_n of_o treasure_n and_o blood_n that_o their_o loyal_a and_o dutiful_a people_n of_o this_o land_n of_o ireland_n be_v now_o for_o the_o most_o part_n derive_v from_o british_a ancestor_n shall_v be_v govern_v according_a to_o the_o municipal_a and_o fundamental_a law_n of_o england_n that_o the_o statute_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la or_o the_o great_a charter_n of_o the_o liberty_n of_o england_n and_o other_o laudable_a law_n and_o statute_n be_v in_o several_a parliament_n here_o enact_v and_o declare_v that_o by_o the_o mean_n thereof_o and_o of_o the_o most_o prudent_a and_o benign_a government_n of_o his_o majesty_n and_o his_o royal_a progenitor_n this_o kingdom_n be_v until_o of_o late_a in_o its_o growth_n a_o flourish_a estate_n whereby_o the_o say_a people_n be_v heretofore_o enable_v to_o answer_v their_o humble_a and_o natural_a desire_n to_o comply_v with_o his_o majesty_n princely_a and_o royal_a occasion_n by_o their_o free_a gift_n of_o 150_o thousand_o pound_n sterling_a and_o likewise_o by_o another_o free_a gift_n of_o 120_o thousand_o pound_n more_o during_o the_o government_n of_o the_o lord_n viscount_n faulkland_n and_o after_o by_o the_o gift_n of_o 40_o thousand_o pound_n and_o their_o free_a and_o cheerful_a gift_n of_o six_o entire_a subsidy_n in_o the_o 10_o year_n of_o his_o majesty_n reign_n which_o to_o comply_v with_o his_o majesty_n then_o occasion_n signify_v to_o the_o then_o house_n of_o commons_o they_o do_v allow_v shall_v amount_v in_o the_o collection_n unto_o 250_o thousand_o pound_n although_o as_o they_o confident_o believe_v if_o the_o subsidy_n have_v be_v levy_v in_o a_o moderate_a parliamentary_a way_n they_o will_v not_o have_v amount_v to_o much_o more_o than_o half_a the_o sum_n aforesaid_a beside_o the_o four_o entire_a susidy_n grant_v in_o this_o present_a parliament_n so_o it_o be_v may_v it_o please_v your_o lordship_n by_o the_o occasion_n of_o the_o ensue_a and_o other_o grievance_n and_o innovation_n though_o to_o his_o majesty_n no_o considerable_a profit_n this_o kingdom_n be_v reduce_v to_o that_o extreme_a and_o universal_a poverty_n that_o the_o same_o be_v less_o able_a to_o pay_v subsidy_n than_o it_o be_v heretofore_o to_o satisfy_v all_o the_o before_o recite_v great_a payment_n and_o his_o majesty_n most_o faithful_a people_n of_o the_o land_n do_v conceive_v great_a fear_n that_o the_o say_v grievance_n and_o consequence_n thereof_o may_v be_v hereafter_o draw_v into_o precedent_n to_o be_v perpetuate_v upon_o their_o posterity_n which_o in_o their_o great_a hope_n and_o strong_a belief_n they_o be_v persuade_v be_v contrary_n to_o his_o royal_a and_o princely_a intention_n towards_o his_o say_a people_n some_o of_o which_o say_v grievance_n be_v as_o follow_v 1._o the_o general_a apparent_a decay_n of_o trade_n occasion_v by_o the_o new_a and_o illegal_a raise_n of_o the_o book_n of_o rate_n and_o imposition_n upon_o native_a and_o other_o commodity_n export_v and_o import_v by_o reason_n whereof_o and_o of_o extreme_a usage_n and_o censure_n merchant_n be_v beggar_a and_o both_o disenable_v and_o discourage_v to_o trade_n and_o some_o of_o the_o honourable_a person_n who_o gain_v thereby_o be_v often_o judge_n and_o party_n and_o that_o in_o the_o conclusion_n his_o majesty_n profit_n thereby_o be_v not_o considerable_o advance_v 2._o the_o arbitrary_a decision_n of_o all_o civil_a cause_n and_o controversy_n by_o paper_n petition_n before_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n and_o lord_n deputy_n and_o infinite_a other_o judicatories_n upon_o reference_n from_o they_o derive_v in_o the_o nature_n of_o all_o action_n determinable_a at_o the_o common_a law_n not_o limit_v into_o certain_a time_n cause_n season_n or_o thing_n whatsoever_o and_o the_o consequence_n of_o such_o proceed_n by_o receive_v immoderate_a and_o unlawful_a fee_n by_o secretary_n clerk_n pursuivant_n sergeant_n at_o arm_n and_o otherwise_o by_o which_o kind_n of_o proceed_n his_o majesty_n lose_v a_o considerable_a part_n of_o his_o revenue_n upon_o original_a writ_n and_o otherwise_o and_o the_o subject_n lose_v the_o benefit_n of_o his_o writ_n of_o error_n bill_n of_o reversal_n voucher_n and_o other_o legal_a and_o just_a advantage_n and_o the_o ordinary_a course_n and_o court_n of_o justice_n decline_v 3._o the_o proceed_n in_o civil_a cause_n at_o council-board_n contrary_a to_o the_o law_n and_o great_a charter_n not_o limit_v to_o any_o certain_a time_n or_o season_n 4._o that_o the_o subject_n be_v in_o all_o the_o material_a part_n thereof_o deny_v the_o benefit_n of_o the_o princely_a grace_n and_o more_o especial_o of_o the_o statute_n of_o limitation_n of_o 21_o of_o jac._n grant_v by_o his_o majesty_n in_o the_o four_o year_n of_o his_o reign_n upon_o great_a advice_n of_o the_o council_n of_o england_n and_o ireland_n and_o for_o great_a consideration_n and_o then_o publish_v in_o all_o the_o court_n of_o dublin_n and_o in_o all_o the_o county_n of_o this_o kingdom_n in_o open_a assize_n whereby_o all_o person_n do_v take_v notice_n that_o contrary_a to_o his_o majesty_n pious_a intention_n his_o subject_n of_o this_o land_n have_v not_o enjoy_v the_o benefit_n of_o his_o majesty_n princely_a promise_n thereby_o make_v 5._o the_o extrajudicial_a avoid_n of_o letter_n patent_n of_o estate_n of_o a_o very_a great_a part_n of_o his_o majesty_n subject_n under_o the_o great_a seal_n the_o public_a faith_n of_o the_o kingdom_n by_o private_a opinion_n deliver_v at_o the_o council-board_n without_o legal_a eviction_n of_o their_o estate_n contrary_a to_o law_n and_o without_o precedent_n or_o example_n of_o any_o former_a age._n 6._o the_o proclamation_n for_o the_o sole_a emption_n and_o utter_v of_o tobacco_n which_o be_v buy_v at_o very_o low_a rate_n and_o utter_v at_o high_a and_o excessive_a rate_n by_o mean_n whereof_o thousand_o of_o family_n within_o this_o kingdom_n and_o of_o his_o majesty_n subject_n in_o several_a island_n and_o other_o part_n of_o the_o west-indies_n as_o your_o petitioner_n be_v inform_v be_v destroy_v and_o the_o most_o part_n of_o the_o coin_n of_o this_o kingdom_n be_v ingross_v into_o particular_a hand_n insomuch_o that_o your_o petitioner_n do_v conceive_v that_o the_o profit_n arise_v and_o ingross_v thereby_o do_v surmount_v his_o majesty_n revenue_n certain_a or_o casual_a within_o this_o kingdom_n and_o yet_o his_o majesty_n receive_v but_o very_o little_a profit_n by_o the_o same_o 7._o the_o universal_a and_o unlawful_a increase_n of_o monopoly_n to_o the_o advantage_n of_o a_o few_o the_o disprofit_v of_o his_o majesty_n and_o impoverishment_n of_o his_o people_n 8._o and_o the_o extreme_a cruel_a usage_n of_o certain_a late_a commissioner_n and_o other_o steward_n of_o the_o british_a farmer_n and_o inhabitant_n of_o the_o city_n and_o county_n of_o london-derry_n by_o mean_n whereof_o the_o worthy_a plantation_n of_o that_o country_n be_v almost_o destroy_v and_o the_o inhabitant_n be_v reduce_v to_o
great_a poverty_n and_o many_o of_o they_o force_v to_o forsake_v the_o country_n the_o same_o be_v the_o first_o and_o most_o useful_a plantation_n in_o the_o large_a province_n of_o ulster_n to_o the_o great_a weaken_n of_o the_o kingdom_n in_o this_o time_n of_o danger_n the_o say_a plantation_n be_v the_o principal_a strength_n of_o those_o part_n 9_o the_o late_a erection_n of_o the_o court_n of_o high_a commission_n for_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a in_o these_o necessitous_a time_n the_o proceed_n of_o the_o say_a court_n in_o many_o cause_n without_o legal_a warrant_n and_o yet_o so_o support_v as_o prohibition_n have_v not_o be_v obtain_v though_o legal_o seek_v for_o and_o the_o excessive_a fee_n exact_v by_o the_o minister_n thereof_o and_o the_o encroach_a of_o the_o same_o upon_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o other_o ecclesiastical_a court_n of_o this_o kingdom_n 10._o the_o exorbitant_a fee_n and_o pretend_a custom_n exact_v by_o the_o clergy_n against_o the_o law_n some_o of_o which_o have_v be_v former_o represent_v to_o your_o lordship_n 11._o the_o petitioner_n do_v most_o hearty_o bemoan_v that_o his_o majesty_n service_n and_o profit_n be_v much_o more_o impair_v than_o advance_v by_o the_o grievance_n aforesaid_a and_o the_o subsidy_n grant_v in_o the_o last_o parliament_n have_v much_o increase_v his_o majesty_n revenue_n by_o the_o buy_n of_o grant_n and_o otherwise_o and_o that_o all_o his_o majesty_n debt_n then_o due_a in_o this_o kingdom_n be_v satisfy_v out_o of_o the_o say_a subsidy_n and_o yet_o his_o majesty_n be_v of_o late_a as_o the_o petitioner_n have_v be_v inform_v in_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o become_v indebt_v in_o this_o kingdom_n in_o great_a sum_n and_o they_o do_v therefore_o humble_o beseech_v that_o a_o exact_a account_n may_v be_v send_v to_o his_o majesty_n how_o and_o in_o what_o manner_n his_o treasure_n be_v issue_v 12._o the_o petitioner_n do_v humble_o conceive_v just_a and_o great_a fear_n at_o a_o proclamation_n publish_v in_o this_o kingdom_n in_o anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1635._o prohibit_v man_n of_o quality_n or_o estate_n to_o depart_v this_o kingdom_n into_o england_n without_o the_o lord-deputy_n licence_n whereby_o the_o subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n be_v hinder_v and_o interrupt_v from_o free_a access_n to_o address_v to_o his_o sacred_a majesty_n and_o privy-council_n of_o england_n to_o declare_v their_o just_a grievance_n or_o to_o obtain_v remedy_n for_o they_o in_o such_o sort_n as_o their_o ancestor_n have_v do_v in_o all_o age_n since_o the_o reign_n of_o king_n henry_n the_o second_o and_o great_a fee_n exact_v for_o every_o of_o the_o say_a licence_n 13._o that_o of_o late_a his_o majesty_n attorney-general_n have_v exhibit_v information_n against_o many_o ancient_a burrough_n of_o this_o kingdom_n into_o his_o majesty_n court_n of_o exchequer_n to_o show_v cause_n by_o what_o warrant_v the_o say_a burgess_n who_o heretofore_o send_v burgess_n to_o parliament_n shall_v send_v the_o burgess_n to_o the_o parliament_n and_o thereupon_o for_o want_v of_o a_o answer_n the_o say_a privilege_n of_o send_v burgess_n be_v seize_v by_o the_o say_a court_n which_o proceed_n be_v altogether_o coram_fw-la non_fw-la judice_fw-la and_o contrary_a to_o the_o law_n and_o privilege_n of_o the_o house_n of_o parliament_n and_o if_o way_n shall_v be_v give_v thereunto_o will_v tend_v to_o the_o subversion_n of_o parliament_n and_o by_o consequence_n to_o the_o ruin_n and_o destruction_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o that_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o have_v hitherto_o in_o this_o present_a parliament_n be_v deprive_v of_o the_o advice_n and_o counsel_n of_o many_o profitable_a and_o good_a member_n by_o mean_n thereof_o 14._o by_o the_o powerfulness_n of_o some_o minister_n of_o state_n in_o this_o kingdom_n the_o parliament_n in_o its_o member_n and_o action_n have_v not_o its_o natural_a freedom_n 15._o and_o last_o that_o the_o gentry_n and_o merchant_n and_o other_o his_o majesty_n subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n be_v of_o late_a by_o the_o grievance_n and_o pressure_n before_o say_v and_o other_o the_o like_a bring_v very_o near_o to_o ruin_n and_o destruction_n and_o the_o farmer_n of_o custom_n customer_n waiter_n searcher_n clerk_n of_o unwarrantable_a proceed_n pursuivant_n and_o gaoler_n and_o sundry_a other_o very_o much_o enrich_v whereby_o and_o by_o the_o slow_a redress_n of_o the_o petitioner_n grievance_n his_o majesty_n most_o faithful_a and_o dutiful_a people_n of_o this_o kingdom_n do_v conceive_v great_a fear_n that_o their_o readiness_n approve_v upon_o all_o occasion_n have_v not_o be_v of_o late_a right_o represent_v to_o his_o sacred_a majesty_n for_o remedy_n whereof_o the_o say_a petitioner_n do_v humble_o and_o of_o right_a beseech_v your_o lordship_n that_o the_o say_a grievance_n and_o pressure_n may_v be_v speedy_o redress_v and_o if_o your_o lordship_n shall_v not_o think_v fit_a to_o afford_v present_a relief_n that_o 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