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occupation_n of_o lie_v slander_v and_o deface_v of_o good_a man_n and_o allow_v the_o secret_a and_o parlour_n conference_n of_o his_o fellow_n puritan_n and_o many_o other_o bad_a practice_n whereof_o some_o be_v comical_a other_o tragical_a and_o most_o of_o their_o discipline_n fabulous_a or_o a_o comical_a fable_n article_n 42_o the_o bishop_n be_v not_o without_o superstitious_a painting_n in_o their_o chamber_n and_o diverse_a church_n have_v they_o not_o abolish_v article_n 22_o to_o condemn_v the_o historical_a and_o civil_a use_n of_o paint_v be_v uncivil_a and_o savour_v of_o turkism_n other_o use_n of_o paint_v bishop_n have_v none_o neither_o be_v there_o now_o any_o superstitious_a use_n of_o paynting_n in_o church_n wyndowe_n but_o those_o that_o be_v if_o they_o displease_v the_o libeler_n he_o may_v have_v down_o at_o pleasure_n when_o he_o will_v set_v new_a glass_n in_o their_o place_n the_o painting_n that_o do_v more_o harm_n be_v in_o apparel_n ruff_n yea_o 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