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to_o remain_v in_o their_o parish_n 46._o either_o game_n or_o otherwise_o you_o know_v their_o meaning_n maipole_n alice_n maigame_n moricedance_n all_o must_v down_o how_o do_v robin-hood_n stick_v in_o their_o stomach_n beside_o all_o that_o have_v live_v with_o offence_n to_o the_o congregation_n 46._o although_o they_o have_v suffer_v the_o punishment_n of_o the_o la_o for_o it_o yet_o because_o they_o offend_v thereby_o both_o god_n &_o the_o church_n they_o be_v within_o the_o limit_n of_o the_o eldership_n &_o to_o be_v censure_v by_o they_o the_o demonstrator_n be_v also_o very_o bountiful_a the_o office_n of_o the_o church_n governor_n say_v he_o be_v to_o decide_v controversy_n in_o doctrine_n and_o manner_n 15._o so_o far_o as_o pertain_v to_o conscience_n and_o the_o church_n censure_n that_o be_v if_o any_o shall_v refuse_v their_o say_a decision_n they_o will_v not_o indeed_o whip_v he_o or_o hang_v he_o those_o be_v civil_a punishment_n but_o so_o far_o as_o the_o church-censure_n will_v reach_v have_v at_o he_o will_v he_o run_v to_o trouble_v his_o neighbour_n either_o to_o the_o chancery_n to_o the_o kings-bench_n or_o common_a plea_n &_o may_v have_v both_o conscience_n and_o justice_n of_o his_o eldership_n at_o home_n such_o a_o fellow_n shall_v pay_v for_o it_o it_o be_v wise_o therefore_o consider_v of_o the_o humble_a motioner_n where_o he_o tell_v the_o lord_n of_o her_o majesty_n privy_a counsel_n 75._o that_o the_o church_n be_v to_o censure_v such_o a_o party_n who_o be_v apparent_o troublesome_a and_o contentious_a and_o without_o reasonable_a cause_n and_o upon_o mere_a will_n and_o stomach_n do_v vex_v &_o molest_v his_o brother_n to_o trouble_v the_o country_n apparent_o troublesome_a that_o be_v apparent_o to_o their_o conceit_n without_o reasonable_a cause_n uz._n to_o be_v approve_v by_o they_o and_o how_o can_v they_o know_v how_o reasonable_a the_o cause_n be_v except_o
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understand_v both_o against_o our_o neighbour_n &_o against_o god_n howsoever_o it_o be_v commit_v by_o force_n or_o by_o fraud_n by_o word_n or_o by_o deed_n purposely_o or_o ignorant_o manifest_o or_o secret_o but_o yet_o the_o demonstrator_n go_v further_a hitherto_o we_o have_v hear_v nothing_o to_o purpose_n but_o only_o of_o sin_n commit_v but_o he_o will_v not_o abate_v you_o a_o inch_n of_o all_o the_o sin_n which_o the_o schoolman_n do_v call_v sin_n of_o omission_n 18._o whatsoever_o be_v enjoin_v say_v he_o as_o a_o duty_n to_o be_v do_v by_o every_o christian_n if_o he_o leave_v it_o undo_v he_o be_v to_o be_v compel_v by_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n to_o do_v it_o it_o be_v also_o of_o a_o marvelous_a reach_n that_o the_o admonitioner_n speak_v of_o when_o he_o affirm_v that_o by_o this_o their_o discipline_n every_o man_n may_v be_v keep_v within_o the_o limit_n of_o his_o vocation_n peradventure_o it_o will_v be_v a_o hard_a matter_n than_o they_o look_v for_o 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the_o elderships_n jurisdiction_n but_o if_o we_o shall_v believe_v beza_n and_o speak_v indeed_o proper_o as_o he_o will_v have_v we_o no_o sin_n as_o they_o be_v sin_n do_v belong_v to_o the_o eldership_n to_o be_v deal_v in_o 46.49_o but_o as_o they_o be_v scandala_fw-la that_o be_v as_o they_o offend_v the_o godly_a conscience_n of_o god_n child_n for_o example_n i_o hear_v a_o man_n blaspheme_v god_n or_o break_v any_o other_o commandment_n of_o the_o first_o table_n or_o i_o hear_v or_o see_v he_o commit_v some_o sin_n against_o the_o second_o table_n uz_o against_o his_o neighbour_n as_o against_o myself_o by_o do_v i_o some_o injury_n either_o in_o word_n or_o deed_n either_o in_o my_o good_n or_o in_o my_o name_n now_o in_o this_o there_o be_v offer_v i_o 2_o kind_n of_o injury_n the_o first_o &_o the_o chief_a be_v the_o grief_n of_o conscience_n that_o i_o conceive_v in_o respect_n that_o such_o a_o man_n have_v break_v god_n law_n &_o thereby_o not_o only_o wound_v my_o 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pretend_a jurisdiction_n for_o by_o this_o mean_n they_o may_v not_o only_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o enter_v into_o every_o action_n but_o they_o will_v bind_v every_o particular_a man_n whosoever_o to_o become_v a_o informer_n to_o their_o court_n beside_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o say_v second_o respect_n we_o may_v go_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n it_o be_v but_o a_o mist_n that_o he_o cast_v before_o man_n eye_n for_o be_v it_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o word_n that_o i_o pretend_v myself_o to_o be_v greeve_v and_o so_o complain_v to_o their_o eldership_n beza_n &_o all_o the_o rest_n do_v hold_v that_o the_o party_n can_v pass_v their_o finger_n until_o he_o have_v submit_v and_o reconcile_v himself_o unto_o i_o and_o in_o such_o a_o matter_n who_o will_v desire_v more_o for_o if_o he_o look_v for_o damage_n in_o money_n he_o will_v be_v hold_v cruel_a and_o than_o what_o be_v leave_v for_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n again_o my_o neighbour_n pretend_v that_o i_o 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i_o pretend_v to_o that_o court_n that_o such_o a_o man_n have_v wound_v my_o conscience_n in_o break_v god_n commandment_n by_o such_o his_o injury_n offer_v unto_o i_o 52._o well_o it_o may_v be_v the_o party_n will_v deny_v it_o and_o then_o my_o proof_n must_v be_v produce_v if_o i_o justify_v my_o complaint_n the_o offender_n must_v likewise_o in_o this_o case_n submit_v himself_o unto_o i_o and_o acknowledge_v the_o injury_n if_o he_o will_v not_o so_o do_v the_o censure_n proceed_v and_o so_o he_o be_v debar_v as_o it_o be_v say_v before_o if_o he_o do_v then_o on_o the_o other_o side_n i_o must_v of_o necessity_n forgive_v he_o the_o offence_n which_o greeve_v my_o conscience_n or_o else_o i_o also_o do_v come_v within_o their_o compass_n well_o i_o do_v therefore_o forgive_v he_o and_o shall_v i_o nevertheless_o prosecute_v he_o in_o form_n of_o law_n for_o the_o injury_n do_v to_o i_o hereunto_o master_n beza_n say_v thus_o 57_o vix_fw-la potest_fw-la condonâsse_fw-la 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