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nowm_fw-la aliquid_fw-la &_o insolens_fw-la animo_fw-la svo_fw-la concepit_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o we_o suffer_v every_o hedie_n and_o brainless_a fellow_n so_o soon_o as_o he_o have_v conceyve_v any_o new_a thing_n in_o his_o mind_n to_o publish_v
determination_n of_o the_o church_n ought_v not_o light_o to_o be_v alter_v 89_o ¶_o church_a of_o woman_n 534._o etc._n etc._n the_o cause_n of_o the_o woman_n absence_n from_o the_o church_n after_o her_o dehuerance_n 535_o ¶_o circumstance_n necessary_a be_v command_v 512_o ¶_o circumcision_n a_o sacrament_n 618_o circumcision_n in_o private_a house_n 515_o ¶_o cyprian_n choose_v without_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n 205_o cyprian_a of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o archbishop_n 354._o etc._n etc._n 367._o etc._n etc._n cyprian_n a_o metropolitan_a 356._o 438._o 470._o ¶_o civil_a office_n in_o minister_n 749._o etc._n etc._n civil_a office_n in_o our_o minister_n tend_v to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 75_o civil_a authority_n not_o claim_v but_o commit_v to_o our_o bishop_n 752_o some_o civil_a office_n rather_o help_n than_o hindrance_n to_o bishop_n 753_o augustine_n judge_v civil_a cause_n pag._n 772._o civil_a jurisdiction_n that_o the_o pope_n claim_v not_o 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talem_fw-la primatum_fw-la say_fw-la quod_fw-la inter_fw-la paucos_fw-la valet_fw-la non_fw-la protenus_fw-la trahendum_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la universum_fw-la o_fw-la bem_fw-la terrarum_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la regendum_fw-la nemo_fw-la unus_fw-la sufficit_fw-la so_o shall_v it_o be_v no_o absurdity_n if_o we_o shall_v confess_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v give_v this_o kind_n of_o pre-eminence_n unto_o peter_n but_o yet_o that_o which_o avayl_v among_o few_o must_v not_o by_o and_o by_o be_v draw_v to_o the_o whole_a world_n to_o the_o rule_v whereof_o no_o one_o man_n can_v suffice_v you_o see_v therefore_o that_o m._n caluine_n speak_v of_o one_o singular_a person_n even_o of_o peter_n himself_o and_o yet_o do_v he_o not_o slide_v into_o the_o tent_n of_o the_o papist_n but_o teach_v rather_o how_o to_o beware_v of_o they_o and_o yet_o to_o acknowledge_v the_o truth_n of_o peter_n we_o gyve_v no_o great_a authority_n either_o to_o archbishop_n or_o bishop_n than_o the_o 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caluine_n do_v confute_v your_o assertion_n they_o do_v in_o no_o point_n confirm_v it_o in_o synod_n though_o there_o be_v choose_v a_o prolocutor_n for_o the_o inferior_a sort_n of_o the_o clergy_n yet_o do_v the_o archbishop_n retain_v still_o both_o his_o office_n place_n and_o authority_n even_o as_o the_o prince_n do_v or_o the_o lord_n keeper_n notwythstand_v it_o be_v permit_v to_o the_o low_a house_n of_o parliament_n to_o choose_v they_o a_o speaker_n and_o therefore_o this_o be_v nothing_o nor_o allege_v to_o any_o purpose_n except_o you_o will_v say_v that_o in_o the_o civil_a state_n all_o be_v equal_a and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o superior_a but_o in_o everyaction_n some_o choose_v by_o the_o multitude_n to_o govern_v the_o action_n because_o in_o the_o low_a house_n of_o parliament_n they_o choose_v a_o speaker_n who_o offyce_v continue_v but_o during_o that_o parliament_n you_o pass_v not_o what_o you_o allege_v so_o you_o may_v seem_v to_o allege_v something_o chap._n 3._o the._n 51._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 86._o sect._n 2._o now_o you_o see_v what_o authority_n we_o allow_v among_o the_o minister_n both_o in_o their_o several_a church_n or_o in_o provincial_a synod_n or_o national_a or_o general_a or_o what_o so_o ever_o other_o meeting_n shall_v be_v advise_v of_o for_o the_o profit_n and_o edify_n of_o the_o church_n and_o withal_o you_o see_v that_o a_o we_o be_v far_o from_o this_o tyranny_n and_o excessive_a power_n which_o now_o be_v in_o the_o church_n so_o we_o be_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n as_o far_o from_o confusion_n and_o disorder_n wherein_o you_o travel_v so_o much_o to_o make_v we_o to_o seem_v guilty_a io._n whitgifte_n i_o see_v you_o allow_v much_o more_o authority_n in_o word_n that_o be_v in_o the_o example_n you_o have_v use_v than_o you_o will_v willing_o acknowledge_v i_o see_v also_o that_o this_o authority_n which_o you_o call_v
error_n theodorete_n therefore_o mean_v heresy_n he_o mean_v not_o hypocrisy_n there_o be_v not_o one_o heretic_n in_o all_o his_o bishopric_n he_o do_v not_o say_v one_o hypocrite_n or_o evil_a man_n so_o that_o you_o be_v far_o wide_a and_o do_v theodorete_a double_a injury_n for_o you_o do_v both_o slander_v he_o and_o misconstrue_v he_o chap._n 3._o the._n 68_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 89._o sect._n 3_o now_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v what_o great_a likelihood_n there_o be_v between_o this_o theodoret_n and_o our_o lord_n bishop_n and_o archbishop_n it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v which_o he_o write_v of_o himself_o in_o the_o epistle_n unto_o leo_n that_o be_v that_o he_o have_v be_v 26._o year_n bishop_n be_v know_v of_o all_o those_o that_o dwell_v in_o those_o part_n that_o he_o have_v never_o house_n of_o his_o own_o nor_o field_n nor_o halfepenn_v e_o not_o so_o much_o as_o a_o place_n to_o be_v bury_v in_o but_o have_v willing_o content_v himself_o with_o a_o poor_a 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question_n soon_o decide_v and_o you_o make_v it_o no_o such_o commandment_n but_o that_o upon_o occasion_n it_o may_v be_v alter_v in_o deed_n the_o word_n of_o christ_n do_v signify_v that_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o supper_n and_o the_o whole_a supper_n be_v common_a to_o all_o as_o well_o of_o the_o laiety_n as_o we_o term_v they_o as_o of_o the_o clergy_n but_o it_o do_v not_o prescribe_v what_o number_n shall_v be_v present_a at_o every_o several_a communion_n i_o do_v not_o excuse_v those_o that_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o that_o supper_n except_o it_o be_v upon_o necessary_a and_o just_a occasion_n but_o i_o deny_v that_o the_o negligence_n or_o lawful_a occasion_n of_o some_o aught_o to_o hinder_v or_o stay_v other_o from_o communicate_v this_o you_o shall_v have_v prove_v but_o you_o do_v not_o and_o your_o caution_n and_o exception_n which_o i_o very_o well_o allow_v declare_v the_o contrary_n chap._n 6._o the._n 11._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 117._o sect._n 3_o but_o 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memorem_fw-la esse_fw-la oportet_fw-la chap._n 1._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 146._o sect._n ult._n etc._n etc._n it_o may_v be_v the_o clerely_a understand_v that_o the_o presbytery_n or_o eldership_n have_v the_o chief_a stroke_n in_o this_o excommunication_n if_o it_o be_v observe_v that_o this_o be_v the_o policy_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o of_o the_o synagogue_n from_o whence_o our_o saviour_n christ_n take_v this_o &_o translate_v it_o unto_o his_o church_n that_o when_o any_o man_n have_v do_v any_o thing_n that_o they_o hold_v for_o a_o taulte_n that_o then_o the_o same_o be_v punish_v and_o censure_v by_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o fault_n as_o it_o may_v appear_v in_o s._n matthew_n for_o although_o it_o be_v of_o some_o and_o those_o very_a learned_a expound_v of_o the_o civil_a judgement_n vet_z for_o 5._o cap._n 5._o so_o much_o as_o the_o jew_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o civil_a 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6._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 147._o lin._n 15._o and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n in_o those_o word_n it_o may_v appear_v by_o y_fw-es e_fw-es practice_v which_o be_v set_v forth_o in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o s._n paul_n do_v both_o understande_v and_o observe_v the_o rule_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n but_o he_o communicate_v this_o power_n of_o excommunication_n with_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n that_o the_o excommunication_n shall_v be_v by_o many_o &_o not_o by_o one_o and_o by_o the_o church_n and_o not_o by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n alone_o for_o he_o bid_v the_o church_n of_o corinthe_n twice_o in_o the_o first_o epistle_n 5._o 1._o cor._n 5._o once_o by_o a_o metaphor_n another_o time_n in_o plain_a word_n that_o they_o shall_v excommunicate_v the_o incestuous_a person_n by_o metaphor_n say_v 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