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authority_n in_o ecclesiasticalll_n matter_n and_o so_o do_v they_o t._n c._n pag._n 8._o sect._n 6._o i_o have_v answer_v in_o the_o it_o the_o where_o you_o have_v not_o speak_v one_o word_n of_o it_o ten_o article_n of_o anabaptisme_n io._n whitgifte_n your_o answer_n be_v there_o very_o confuse_a and_o uncertain_a but_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o article_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o certain_a note_n which_o i_o have_v collect_v out_o of_o your_o book_n touch_v this_o matter_n in_o this_o my_o defence_n io._n whitgifte_n a_o exhortation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 6._o sect._n 6._o to_o be_v short_a the_o papist_n refuse_v to_o come_v to_o our_o church_n to_o communicate_v with_o we_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o these_o man_n will_v not_o have_v they_o by_o law_n and_o punishment_n compel_v thereunto_o t._n c._n pag._n 8._o sect._n ult._n i_o answer_v that_o doeg_n when_o he_o say_v that_o david_n come_v to_o abimilech_n say_v nothing_o but_o truth_n and_o when_o they_o 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