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A18441 [A treatise against the Defense of the censure, giuen upon the bookes of W.Charke and Meredith Hanmer, by an unknowne popish traytor in maintenance of the seditious challenge of Edmond Campion ... Hereunto are adjoyned two treatises, written by D.Fulke ... ] Charke, William, d. 1617, attributed name.; Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1586 (1586) STC 5009; ESTC S111939 659,527 941

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monuissetis_fw-la vos_fw-la eximij_fw-la theologotati_fw-la si_fw-mi papista_fw-la essem_fw-la omnium_fw-la tentationum_fw-la ruàis_fw-la quem_fw-la securum_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d satan_n negligeres_fw-la ut_fw-la ipsos_fw-la negligit_fw-la indulgentes_fw-la suis_fw-la cupiditatibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n etiam_fw-la talis_fw-la gigas_fw-la essem_fw-la contra_fw-la absentem_fw-la hostem_fw-la alacer_fw-la &_o fortis_fw-la sed_fw-la si_fw-la vobis_fw-la sustinendi_fw-la essentictus_fw-la diaboli_fw-la &_o audiendae_fw-la disputationes_fw-la non_fw-la diu_fw-la essetis_fw-la cantilenam_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la &_o veteri_fw-la recepto_fw-la more_fw-it cantaturi_fw-la equidem_fw-la satis_fw-la video_fw-la in_o david_n &_o reliquis_fw-la prophetis_fw-la cue_n àm_fw-la graviter_fw-la luctentur_fw-la &_o ingemiscunt_fw-la in_o his_o certaminibus_fw-la &_o similibus_fw-la contra_fw-la diabolum_fw-la &_o horribilem_fw-la impetum_fw-la eius_fw-la et_fw-la christus_fw-la ipse_fw-la quamuis_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la propter_fw-la nos_fw-la in_o quantis_fw-la lachrimis_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la angustiis_fw-la agonizavit_fw-la in_o his_o agonibus_fw-la contra_fw-la satanam_fw-la urget_fw-la enim_fw-la in_o immensum_fw-la corda_fw-la nec_fw-la 〈◊〉_d niss_fw-la repulsus_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la et_fw-la ego_fw-la planè_fw-la persuasus_fw-la sum_fw-la emser_v they_o &_o oecolampadium_n &_o simile_n his_o ictibus_fw-la horribilib_a &_o quassatio_fw-la nib_fw-la subitò_fw-la extinctos_fw-la esse_fw-la nec_fw-la n._n humanum_fw-la cor_fw-la horrer_n dum_fw-la hunc_fw-la &_o ineffabilem_fw-la impetum_fw-la nisi_fw-la deus_fw-la illi_fw-la adsit_fw-la perferre_fw-la potest_fw-la satan_n enim_fw-la in_o 〈◊〉_d oculi_fw-la repent_v totam_fw-la mentem_fw-la terr_v oribus_fw-la ac_fw-la te_fw-la nebris_fw-la adobruit_fw-la &_o si_fw-la nihil_fw-la quàm_fw-la hominem_fw-la inermem_fw-la &_o verbo_fw-la no_n instructum_fw-la invenit_fw-la quasi_fw-la digitulo_fw-la totum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d verum_fw-la qui_fw-la they_fw-mi hoc_fw-la est_fw-la quód_fw-la mendax_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la eius_fw-la mendacia_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la simplicis_fw-la artificis_fw-la sed_fw-la longè_fw-la callidiora_fw-la &_o instructiora_fw-la ad_fw-la fallendum_fw-la quàm_fw-la humanus_fw-la captus_fw-la assequi_fw-la possit_fw-la ipse_fw-la sic_fw-la adoritur_fw-la ut_fw-la apprehendat_fw-la aliquam_fw-la &_o solidam_fw-la veritatem_fw-la quae_fw-la negarinon_fw-la possit_fw-la atque_fw-la eam_fw-la adeo_fw-la callidè_fw-la &_o versutè_fw-la urget_fw-la &_o acuit_fw-la &_o adeo_fw-la speciose_fw-la fucat_fw-la suum_fw-la mendacium_fw-la ut_fw-la fallat_fw-la velcautissimos_fw-la etc._n etc._n utî_fw-la cogitatio_fw-la illa_fw-la quae_fw-la judae_fw-la cor_fw-la percussit_fw-la vera_fw-la tradidi_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la iustum_fw-la hoc_fw-la judasnegare_fw-la non_fw-la poteratise_v hoc_fw-la erat_fw-la mendacium_fw-la ergo_fw-la est_fw-la desperandum_fw-la de_fw-fr gratia_fw-la dei_fw-la et_fw-la tamen_fw-la diabolus_fw-la hoc_fw-la mendacium_fw-la hanc_fw-la cogitationem_fw-la tam_fw-la violent_a ursit_fw-la ut_fw-la judas_n eam_fw-la vincere_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la sed_fw-la desperaret_fw-la proinde_fw-la bene_fw-la frater_fw-la domine_fw-la papista_fw-la non_fw-la mentitur_fw-la satan_n quando_fw-la accusat_fw-la aut_fw-la urget_fw-la magnitudinem_fw-la peccati_fw-la ibi_fw-la enim_fw-la habet_fw-la dvos_fw-la inconuincibiles_fw-la grave_n testes_fw-la legem_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o nostram_fw-la propriam_fw-la conscientiam_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la negare_fw-la quòdreus_fw-la summortis_fw-la &_o damnationis_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la ibi_fw-la mentitur_fw-la satan_n quando_fw-la ultrà_fw-la urget_fw-la ut_fw-la desperem_fw-la de_fw-la gratia_fw-la sicut_fw-la cain_n dicebat_fw-la maius_fw-la est_fw-la peccatum_fw-la meum_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la ibi_fw-la tum_fw-la opus_fw-la est_fw-la in_o
tali_fw-la ago_o divino_fw-la &_o caelesti_fw-la auxilio_fw-la ut_fw-la vel_fw-la srater_fw-la adsit_fw-la qui_fw-la te_fw-la consoletur_fw-la promissionibus_fw-la gratiae_fw-la foris_fw-la velintus_fw-la in_o cord_n spiritus_fw-la sanctus_fw-la verbum_fw-la fratris_fw-la erigat_fw-la ac_fw-la animet_fw-la ac_fw-la sustentet_fw-la cor_fw-la tuum_fw-la ut_fw-la possis_fw-la sic_fw-la apud_fw-la 〈◊〉_d statuere_fw-la confessus_fw-la quidem_fw-la sum_fw-la lege_fw-la dei_fw-la convictus_fw-la coram_fw-la diabolo_fw-la i_o peccasse_fw-la i_o damnatum_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la judam_fw-la sed_fw-la verto_fw-la i_o ad_fw-la christum_fw-la cum_fw-la petro_n &_o respicio_fw-la eius_fw-la immensum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la &_o meritum_fw-la etc._n etc._n ille_fw-la omnem_fw-la horrendam_fw-la damnationem_fw-la damnavit_fw-la here_o those_o most_o holy_a father_n will_v answer_v i_o here_o they_o will_v laugh_v and_o say_v be_v thou_o a_o famous_a doctor_n and_o know_v not_o how_o to_o answer_v the_o devil_n do_v thou_o not_o know_v that_o the_o devil_n be_v a_o liar_n how_o say_v you_o by_o that_o i_o give_v you_o great_a thanks_n as_o you_o be_v worthy_a for_o so_o sweet_a comforse_n in_o so_o weighty_a a_o matter_n these_o three_o word_n the_o devil_n be_v a_o liar_n i_o shall_v not_o have_v know_v until_o now_o except_o you_o most_o notable_a divine_n have_v teach_v i_o if_o i_o be_v a_o papist_n unexpert_a of_o all_o temptation_n who_o satan_n will_v not_o neglect_v be_v carl_n and_o snort_v as_o he_o neglect_v they_o that_o follow_v their_o lust_n etc._n etc._n i_o shall_v be_v such_o a_o giant_n also_o stout_a and_o valiant_a against_o the_o enemy_n that_o be_v absent_a if_o you_o shall_v bear_v the_o stripe_n of_o the_o devil_n and_o hear_v his_o disputation_n you_o shall_v not_o longse_v the_o song_n of_o the_o church_n &_o after_o the_o accustom_a manner_n i_o very_o do_v see_v sufficient_o in_o david_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o prophet_n how_o greevouslie_o they_o wrestle_v and_o groone_a in_o those_o combat_n and_o such_o like_a against_o the_o devil_n and_o his_o horrible_a violence_n and_o christ_n himself_o although_o without_o sin_n in_o what_o abundance_n of_o tear_n and_o anguish_n do_v he_o sirive_v for_o we_o in_o those_o conflict_n against_o satan_n for_o he_o urge_v man_n heart_n exceed_o &_o cease_v not_o except_o he_o be_v drive_v back_o with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o i_o be_o plain_o persuade_v that_o emser_n and_o oecolampadius_n and_o such_o like_a be_v sodendlie_o slay_v wieh_n these_o horrible_a stripe_n and_o shake_n for_o mean_v the_o heart_n of_o man_n can_v abide_v this_o horrible_a and_o unspeakable_a violence_n except_o god_n be_v with_o he_o for_o satan_n in_o the_o twinkle_n of_o a_o eye_n sodendlie_o overwhelm_v the_o whole_a mind_n with_o terror_n and_o darkness_n and_o if_o he_o find_v nothing_o but_o a_o man_n unarm_v and_o not_o instruct_v in_o the_o word_n as_o it_o be_v with_o a_o little_a finger_n he_o overwhelm_v he_o all_o at_o once_o it_o be_v true_a in_o deed_n that_o he_o be_v a_o liar_n but_o his_o lie_n be_v not_o of_o a_o simple_a craft_n man_n but_o much_o more_o crafty_a and_o prepare_v to_o deceive_v than_o man_n capacitis_n can_v comprehend_v he_o do_v in_o such_o sort_n set_v upon_o a_o man_n &_o take_v hold_v of_o he_o and_o that_o sound_a truth_n which_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v and_o that_o he_o urge_v and_o sharpen_v so_o crafty_o and_o subtle_o and_o cover_v it_o so_o cunning_o that_o he_o may_v deceive_v they_o that_o take_v the_o best_a heed_n of_o he_o etc._n etc._n as_o that_o cogitation_n which_o strike_v the_o heart_n of_o judas_n be_v true_a i_o have_v betray_v innocent_a blood_n this_o can_v not_o judas_n deny_v but_o this_o be_v a_o lie_n therefore_o i_o must_v despair_v of_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o the_o devil_n urge_v this_o lie_n this_o cogitation_n so_o violent_o that_o judas_n be_v not_o able_a to_o overcome_v it_o but_o despair_v 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thou_o may_v determine_v thus_o with_o thyself_o i_o have_v in_o deed_n confess_v before_o the_o devil_n be_v convict_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n that_o i_o sin_v that_o i_o be_o condemn_v as_o judas_n but_o i_o turn_v myself_o unto_o christ_n with_o peter_n and_o look_v back_o to_o his_o infinite_a benefit_n and_o merit_n etc._n etc._n he_o have_v condemn_v all_o horrible_a condemnation_n etc._n etc._n now_o i_o report_v i_o to_o every_o indifferent_a reader_n whether_o luther_n do_v not_o speak_v here_o of_o a_o spiritual_a conflict_n or_o tentation_n unto_o desperation_n for_o his_o say_n of_o private_a mass_n after_o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v idolatry_n not_o of_o any_o bodelie_a conference_n about_o the_o abolish_n of_o the_o mass_n secondlie_o that_o luther_n do_v not_o yield_v to_o the_o persuasion_n of_o the_o devil_n wherewith_o the_o defender_n confess_v that_o both_o good_a and_o evil_a man_n be_v assault_v but_o according_a to_o the_o difference_n by_o he_o observe_v resist_v the_o assault_n and_o obtain_v victory_n through_o christ._n but_o now_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o argument_n our_o defender_n bring_v to_o prove_v this_o bodelie_a conference_n first_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o tigurine_a caluenist_n but_o that_o be_v false_a the_o tigurine_n do_v only_o reproove_v luther_n for_o his_o intemperate_a invective_n and_o name_v of_o deville_n so_o often_o our_o wise_a defender_n conclude_v ergo_fw-la luther_n have_v deville_n second_o he_o say_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o this_o conference_n be_v more_o than_o spiritual_a by_o the_o devilles_n preface_n wherein_o he_o call_v the_o friar_n right_o learned_a doctor_n according_a to_o the_o vain_a of_o pride_n wherewith_o he_o see_v he_o puff_v up_o etc._n etc._n but_o what_o reasonable_a man_n see_v not_o that_o this_o presace_n of_o his_o title_n be_v but_o a_o bitter_a scorn_n of_o the_o devil_n no_o flatter_a speech_n to_o make_v he_o ready_a to_o receive_v his_o impression_n as_o the_o defender_n say_v as_o for_o the_o sound_n of_o satan_n voice_n describe_v in_o the_o place_n allege_v in_o the_o censure_n there_o be_v none_o such_o for_o the_o book_n demissa_fw-la angulari_fw-la so_o often_o allege_v by_o the_o papist_n be_v none_o other_o but_o this_o de_fw-fr missa_fw-la privata_fw-la &_o unctione_n sacerdotum_fw-la as_o appear_v by_o the_o very_a word_n note_v by_o the_o papist_n in_o lib._n de_fw-fr missa_fw-la angulari_fw-la which_o be_v find_v here_o in_o this_o book_n de_fw-fr missa_fw-la privata_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o sound_n of_o satan_n voice_n be_v but_o some_o papist_n dream_v upon_o the_o matter_n which_o our_o defender_n will_v now_o hide_v under_o the_o title_n of_o de_fw-fr missa_fw-la angulari_fw-la the_o three_o reason_n be_v for_o that_o luther_n confess_v some_o of_o his_o fellow_n to_o have_v be_v slay_v by_o this_o conference_n what_o he_o say_v in_o his_o rash_a judgement_n of_o emser_n and_o oecolampadius_n where_o of_o the_o one_o be_v a_o papist_n the_o other_o a_o protestant_n you_o heave_v hard_o in_o his_o own_o word_n which_o proove_v no_o bodily_a conference_n for_o those_o terrible_a blow_n and_o shakinge_n where_o of_o he_o speak_v be_v no_o more_o bodelie_o than_o the_o busfete_n of_o satan_n where_o of_o saint_n paul_n speak_v and_o who_o doubt_v 7._o but_o that_o by_o such_o spiritual_a buffet_n of_o satan_n a_o man_n that_o be_v overcome_v with_o exceed_a sorrow_n may_v sudden_o die_v except_o he_o be_v assist_v and_o comfort_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n as_o saint_n paul_n be_v final_o the_o bushel_n of_o angulari_fw-la salt_n say_v our_o defender_n which_o luther_n confess_v himself_o to_o have_v eat_v together_o with_o the_o devil_n proove_v that_o he_o have_v bodelie_o conference_n with_o he_o first_o the_o book_n be_v not_o extant_a and_o if_o any_o such_o be_v yet_o it_o proove_v no_o bodelie_a conference_n for_o no_o man_n be_v so_o mad_a to_o think_v that_o
〈◊〉_d 15._o article_n of_o heresy_n which_o andreas_n zebedeus_n preacher_n of_o nion_n &_o joannes_n angelus_n preacher_n of_o burtin_n both_o zwinglians_n do_v take_v upon_o they_o to_o prove_v against_o caluine_n at_o berna_n caluine_n be_v present_a upon_o pain_n of_o burn_a whereupon_o proceed_v the_o decree_n of_o those_o magistrate_n in_o the_o year_n 1555._o april_n 3._o that_o none_o of_o their_o dominion_n shall_v communicate_v with_o caluine_n at_o geneva_n pontac_n in_o anno_fw-la 1555._o the_o truth_n be_v thatby_o instigation_n of_o that_o heretical_a varlet_n bolsec_n diverse_a preacher_n near_o unto_o geneva_n quarrel_v against_o caluins_n doctrine_n of_o god_n eternal_a predestination_n charge_v he_o to_o affirm_v that_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o evil_a with_o such_o like_a impudent_a slaun_n dear_n whereupon_o caluine_a by_o licence_n of_o the_o senate_n caluini_fw-la of_o geneva_n so_o purge_v himself_o before_o the_o bernates_n that_o one_o sabastian_n and_o 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