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per_fw-la prophetas_fw-la sonuit_fw-la verbum_fw-la deindè_fw-la per_fw-la seipsum_fw-la deindè_fw-la per_fw-la apostolos_fw-la in_o his_o igitur_fw-la omnibus_fw-la quaerenda_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la hoc_fw-la etiam_fw-la praedico_fw-la atque_fw-la propono_fw-la uti_fw-la quae_fw-la aperta_fw-la &_o manifesta_fw-la deligamus_fw-la quae_fw-la si_fw-la in_o sanctis_fw-la scripture_n non_fw-la invenirentur_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la esset_fw-la undè_fw-la aperirentur_fw-la clausa_fw-la &_o illustrarentur_fw-la obscura_fw-la seponenda_fw-la sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la obscurè_fw-la sunt_fw-la posita_fw-la &_o figurarum_fw-la velaminibus_fw-la involuta_fw-la in_o talibus_fw-la figuris_fw-la nolo_fw-la quaeramus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la quia_fw-la falsae_fw-la sunt_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la interpretem_fw-la quaerunt_fw-la cap._n 6._o o_o donatistae_n genesin_n legite_fw-la benedicentur_fw-la in_o semine_fw-la tuo_fw-la omnes_fw-la gentes_fw-la terrae_fw-la genes_n 22._o quid_fw-la 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te_fw-la omnes_fw-la tribus_fw-la terrae_fw-la &_o in_o semine_fw-la tuo_fw-la date_fw-la mihi_fw-la hanc_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la si_fw-la apud_fw-la vos_fw-la est_fw-la ostendite_fw-la vos_fw-la communicare_fw-la omnibus_fw-la gentibus_fw-la quas_fw-la jam_fw-la videmus_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la semine_fw-la benedici_fw-la cap._n 7._o quid_fw-la in_o prophetis_fw-la quam_fw-la multa_fw-la &_o quam_fw-la manifesta_fw-la sunt_fw-la testamonia_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la gentes_fw-la toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la terrarum_fw-la diffusae_fw-la 11._o isa_n 11._o repleta_fw-la est_fw-la universa_fw-la terra_fw-la ut_fw-la cognoscat_fw-la dominum_fw-la 27._o isa_n 27._o germinabit_fw-la &_o florescet_fw-la israel_n &_o replebitur_fw-la orbis_n terrarum_fw-la fructu_fw-la ejus_fw-la 27._o psal_n 27._o posui_fw-la te_fw-la in_o lucem_fw-la gentium_fw-la ut_fw-la sis_fw-la salus_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la fine_n terrae_fw-la laetare_fw-la sterilis_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la paris_n erumpe_n &_o exclama_fw-la quoniam_fw-la multi_fw-la silij_fw-la desertae_fw-la magis_fw-la quam_fw-la ejus_fw-la quae_fw-la habet_fw-la virum_fw-la comparent_fw-la isti_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la svam_fw-la in_o aphrica_fw-la constitutam_fw-la cum_fw-la multitudine_fw-la judaeorum_n per_fw-la omnes_fw-la terras_fw-la quacunque_fw-la dispersi_fw-la sunt_fw-la et_fw-la videant_fw-la quam_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o illorum_fw-la comparatione_fw-la paucissimi_fw-la quomodo_fw-la ergò_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la dictum_fw-la assignabunt_fw-la multi_fw-la silij_fw-la desertae_fw-la quam_fw-la ejus_fw-la quae_fw-la habet_fw-la virum_fw-la rursus_fw-la comparent_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la christianorum_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la gentes_fw-la quibus_fw-la non_fw-la communicant_a &_o videant_fw-la quam_fw-la pauci_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o comparatione_fw-la omnes_fw-la judei_fw-la &_o tandem_fw-la aliquandò_fw-la intelligant_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la diffusa_fw-la istam_fw-la 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