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people_n forsooth_o they_o square_v it_o out_o for_o the_o most_o part_n in_o new_a fashion_a &_o conceit_a apparel_n &_o be_v all_o clad_v in_o satin_n &_o velvet_n and_o costly_a apparel_n and_o brave_a it_o like_o people_n of_o a_o new_a government_n some_o for_o humility_n sake_n go_v in_o flat_a cap_n other_o go_v like_o clown_n in_o russet_a cloak_n &_o well_o they_o may_v for_o their_o religion_n be_v a_o russet_a religion_n good_a for_o none_o but_o russet_a coat_n &_o such_o as_o favour_v popular_a government_n &_o fit_v none_o but_o our_o rustical_a platformer_n who_o manner_n be_v rude_a &_o uncivil_a that_o man_n go_v not_o more_o orderly_a this_o faction_n be_v cause_n which_o make_v war_n against_o the_o ministry_n and_o by_o all_o mean_n seek_v to_o offer_v they_o scorn_v article_n 45_o the_o bishop_n official_o allow_v none_o to_o be_v absent_a from_o their_o own_o parish_n unless_o they_o will_v pay_v a_o mark_n for_o a_o licence_n yet_o law_n suffer_v man_n to_o 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diverse_a cause_n it_o be_v the_o way_n to_o faction_n sect_n heresy_n and_o tumult_n and_o diverse_a other_o disorder_n article_n 46_o song_n in_o church_n shall_v be_v distinct_a and_o modest_a answer_n so_o they_o be_v but_o the_o libeler_n ear_n be_v percase_o so_o out_o of_o tune_n that_o he_o can_v not_o judge_v when_o he_o hear_v they_o for_o how_o can_v his_o ear_n be_v in_o tune_n who_o wit_n not_o long_o since_o be_v in_o so_o great_a discord_n in_o the_o opinion_n of_o all_o wise_a man_n that_o can_v judge_v and_o have_v skill_n our_o church_n music_n be_v distinct_a modest_a and_o grave_a and_o far_o pass_v the_o discordant_a tune_n of_o puritan_n article_n 47_o none_n of_o the_o queen_n subject_n shall_v call_v one_o another_o heretic_n nor_o schismatic_n but_o we_o be_v so_o call_v and_o puritan_n too_o by_o certain_a libeler_n answer_n yea_o and_o that_o very_o just_o too_o if_o you_o maintain_v this_o libel_n and_o your_o new_a book_n of_o prayer_n and_o their_o most_o seditious_a and_o heretical_a pamphlet_n of_o t._n c._n and_o other_o neither_o be_v they_o libeler_n in_o so_o call_v you_o nor_o do_v the_o injunction_n protect_v factious_a mate_n but_o quiet_a and_o good_a subject_n such_o as_o you_o will_v not_o show_v yourselves_o to_o be_v rail_v and_o revel_v at_o law_n and_o governor_n in_o most_o shameful_a sort_n and_o therefore_o disdain_v not_o to_o be_v call_v by_o your_o name_n nor_o wonder_v if_o you_o be_v beat_v with_o your_o own_o weapon_n article_n 48_o bishop_n and_o their_o chapleyns_n seldom_o make_v a_o leg_n at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n unless_o it_o be_v at_o the_o read_n of_o the_o gospel_n nor_o remember_v jesus_n but_o when_o they_o lusty_o swear_v by_o jesus_n answer_n all_o puritan_n utter_o mislike_v this_o bow_n at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n this_o semypuritan_n and_o demychristian_a mislike_v the_o omit_v of_o it_o therein_o condemn_v all_o his_o companion_n as_o contumacious_a lawbreaker_n and_o not_o prove_v any_o 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