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it_o have_v its_o beginning_n yet_o we_o know_v how_o deceit_n come_v in_o and_o how_o it_o have_v overspread_v you_o with_o darkness_n and_o ignorance_n and_o because_o you_o see_v not_o therefore_o you_o judge_v we_o to_o be_v blind_a but_o the_o light_n of_o knowledge_n be_v arise_v in_o which_o we_o see_v before_o the_o pope_n his_o holy_a water_n mingle_v with_o salt_n or_o sprinkle_n infant_n be_v and_o see_v the_o beginning_n and_o end_n of_o those_o dark_a invention_n and_o our_o doctrine_n and_o principle_n tend_v to_o the_o bring_n of_o people_n to_o know_v a_o true_a live_a foundation_n for_o all_o their_o practice_n and_o that_o the_o darkness_n of_o popery_n and_o tradition_n of_o man_n may_v not_o always_o keep_v people_n in_o blindness_n to_o practise_v the_o pope_n inventious_a instead_o of_o the_o apostle_n and_o christ_n doctrine_n who_o by_o the_o bright_a shine_n of_o his_o light_n be_v lead_a people_n to_o his_o baptism_n which_o be_v by_o one_o spirit_n into_o 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thing_n be_v thy_o own_o and_o be_v never_o affirm_v by_o any_o of_o we_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a that_o christ_n be_v arise_v from_o the_o dead_a and_o be_v become_v our_o first_o fruit_n and_o by_o the_o imputation_n and_o intercession_n be_v we_o justify_v and_o of_o god_n be_v he_o make_v unto_o we_o justification_n and_o life_n again_o thou_o say_v we_o neither_o know_v nor_o understand_v what_o your_o minister_n preach_v answ._n yes_o we_o both_o know_v and_o understand_v that_o they_o preach_v lie_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o we_o know_v and_o understand_v that_o thou_o be_v go_v about_o to_o make_v a_o defence_n and_o vindication_n for_o they_o in_o so_o do_v again_o thou_o say_v the_o quaker_n say_v it_o matter_n not_o whether_o a_o man_n do_v any_o good_a work_n see_v they_o make_v he_o not_o good_a page_n 41._o answ._n this_o be_v false_a for_o none_o of_o the_o quaker_n ever_o say_v so_o for_o our_o goodness_n be_v of_o the_o lord_n and_o not_o of_o 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again_o page_n 48._o thou_o saiâ—t_v instead_o of_o abhor_v ourselves_o we_o justify_v ourselves_o answ._n this_o be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o rest_n a_o false_a accusation_n for_o self_n be_v that_o which_o we_o bear_v witness_n against_o in_o all_o justify_v nothing_o but_o what_o god_n justify_v and_o condemn_v nothing_o but_o what_o god_n condemn_v again_o page_n 49._o thou_o say_v the_o quaker_n be_v so_o proud_a to_o think_v and_o say_v they_o be_v more_o perfect_a than_o the_o apostle_n paul_n answ._n when_o do_v any_o of_o the_o quaker_n say_v they_o be_v more_o perfect_a than_o the_o apostle_n but_o it_o seem_v thy_o tongue_n be_v at_o liberty_n to_o make_v a_o refuge_n for_o the_o priest_n and_o fill_v a_o volume_n of_o paper_n with_o lie_n again_o page_n 51_o thou_o say_v that_o many_o of_o the_o quaker_n go_v up_o and_o down_o naked_a to_o manifest_v that_o they_o be_v as_o perfect_v as_o adam_n be_v in_o innocency_n answ._n their_o go_v naked_a be_v as_o a_o sign_n unto_o thou_o and_o the_o priest_n who_o the_o lord_n be_v now_o strip_v of_o the_o sheep_n clothing_n that_o all_o may_v see_v your_o shame_n and_o nakedness_n and_o that_o which_o you_o have_v be_v cover_v with_o be_v but_o as_o leaf_n and_o a_o formal_a notional_a profession_n of_o god_n without_o his_o life_n power_n or_o spirit_n and_o you_o must_v be_v as_o naked_a from_o this_o cover_n before_o you_o be_v innocent_a as_o ever_o any_o quaker_n have_v be_v from_o their_o clothes_n again_o page_n 56._o 57_o thou_o say_v that_o we_o do_v condemn_v not_o only_o the_o church_n now_o in_o be_v but_o all_o that_o ever_o have_v be_v the_o church_n of_o asia_n corinâ—h_n galatia_n and_o thessalonica_n etc._n etc._n answ._n this_o be_v but_o a_o addition_n to_o thy_o former_a lie_n for_o those_o church_n we_o do_v own_o and_o all_o such_o as_o do_v walk_v in_o their_o life_n and_o be_v guide_v by_o their_o spirit_n for_o the_o church_n of_o the_o thessalonian_n be_v in_o god_n 1_o thes._n 1._o but_o thou_o have_v appear_v to_o be_v of_o another_o spirit_n and_o have_v manifest_v thyself_o to_o be_v a_o condemner_n of_o those_o church_n as_o well_o as_o of_o we_o as_o in_o page_n 55._o thou_o say_v in_o the_o church_n at_o corinth_n that_o there_o be_v such_o corrupt_a member_n among_o they_o as_o you_o can_v scarce_o find_v in_o the_o worst_a of_o your_o congregation_n so_o of_o that_o which_o thou_o false_o charge_v we_o thou_o be_v true_o guilty_a thyself_o and_o so_o have_v condemn_v those_o church_n and_o justify_v yourselves_o but_o what_o corruption_n be_v it_o that_o be_v so_o bad_a in_o those_o church_n that_o be_v not_o in_o the_o worst_a of_o your_o congregation_n again_o as_o a_o proof_n for_o thy_o condemn_v your_o own_o church_n thou_o bring_v brightman_n word_n say_v behold_v whatsoever_o be_v first_o that_o be_v true_a and_o whatsoever_o be_v late_a that_o be_v false_a chap._n 3._o page_n 113._o so_o that_o hereby_o by_o thy_o old_a author_n and_o logic_n thou_o have_v prove_v all_o your_o church_n in_o england_n to_o be_v false_a for_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n corinth_n galatia_n and_o thessalonica_n these_o be_v the_o first_o but_o the_o church_n in_o england_n episcopal_a and_o presbytery_n these_o be_v latter_a therefore_o false_a again_o pag_n 60._o thou_o say_v the_o quaker_n say_v they_o be_v so_o perfect_a that_o they_o can_v grow_v in_o knowledge_n nor_o grace_n answ._n the_o quaker_n never_o say_v so_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a we_o do_v grow_v in_o knowledge_n and_o in_o grace_n whereby_o we_o see_v and_o comprehend_v how_o thou_o and_o the_o priest_n do_v grow_v in_o rage_n enmity_n and_o false_a accusation_n against_o we_o and_o
we_o know_v also_o that_o you_o must_v fulfil_v your_o measure_n of_o iniquity_n and_o that_o all_o manner_n of_o evil_n must_v be_v speak_v against_o we_o false_o and_o so_o we_o be_v satisfy_v because_o we_o suffer_v not_o for_o evil_a do_v but_o for_o well_o do_v again_o page_n 61._o thou_o charge_v we_o not_o to_o obey_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n but_o do_v teach_v man_n to_o break_v his_o command_n twice_o in_o one_o page_n and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o page_n answ._n all_o which_o do_v but_o prove_v and_o manifest_v thy_o unbridle_a tongue_n under_o which_o be_v the_o poison_n of_o asp_n but_o if_o thou_o or_o any_o other_o can_v in_o meekness_n and_o simplicity_n prove_v that_o we_o have_v either_o break_v any_o of_o his_o command_n or_o teach_v other_o to_o break_v they_o then_o we_o will_v be_v convince_v and_o thou_o shall_v be_v count_v a_o reprover_n and_o instructor_n in_o righteousness_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_a we_o see_v that_o bitterness_n and_o a_o lie_a spirit_n have_v possess_v thou_o and_o that_o thou_o only_o invent_v and_o imagine_v false_a thing_n to_o fill_v up_o thy_o book_n which_o we_o be_v never_o guilty_a of_o which_o never_o any_o sober_a man_n that_o have_v but_o the_o part_n of_o a_o man_n will_v ever_o lay_v to_o our_o charge_n see_v that_o both_o our_o principle_n and_o practice_n witness_v to_o the_o contrary_a again_o to_o make_v thy_o volume_n large_a in_o page_n 82._o thou_o bring_v the_o same_o lie_v over_o again_o charge_v we_o to_o say_v that_o we_o be_v more_o full_a of_o the_o spirit_n than_o the_o apostle_n and_o of_o more_o knowledge_n and_o strong_a in_o faith_n than_o the_o apostle_n which_o affirmation_n be_v thy_o own_o and_o not_o we_o and_o therefore_o be_v return_v back_o to_o be_v condemn_v where_o it_o do_v arise_v in_o page_n 83._o thou_o say_v the_o quaker_n will_v have_v no_o order_n and_o page_n 84._o thou_o say_v we_o be_v wise_a in_o our_o own_o conceit_n and_o that_o we_o think_v ourselves_o 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then_o the_o flesh_n must_v be_v marry_v to_o christ_n and_o so_o will_v make_v up_o absurdity_n from_o thy_o own_o word_n answ._n this_o be_v thy_o ordinary_a way_n of_o prove_v error_n first_o to_o affirm_v a_o lie_n of_o thy_o own_o make_n charge_v it_o upon_o another_o and_o then_o draw_v a_o conclusion_n answer_v this_o lie_n but_o sara_n blackborow_n nor_o any_o other_o of_o the_o quaker_n have_v ever_o say_v that_o the_o flesh_n be_v the_o woman_n but_o that_o which_o sara_n blackborow_n say_v be_v that_o the_o flesh_n be_v to_o be_v silent_a and_o that_o which_o speak_v in_o thou_o be_v that_o which_o be_v silly_a and_o be_v ever_o learning_n but_o when_o any_o do_v pray_v or_o prophecy_n whether_o man_n or_o woman_n and_o speak_v forth_o that_o which_o god_n have_v make_v manifest_a that_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o the_o father_n in_o both_o and_o be_v not_o to_o be_v quench_v for_o there_o be_v neither_o male_a nor_o female_a but_o all_o be_v one_o in_o christ_n and_o in_o the_o spirit_n from_o which_o preach_v and_o prophesy_v proceed_v and_o the_o promise_n be_v that_o daughter_n as_o well_o as_o son_n shall_v prophesy_v and_o in_o the_o church_n at_o corinth_n they_o may_v all_o prophecy_n one_o by_o one_o that_o all_o may_v hear_v and_o all_o may_v be_v edify_v but_o thou_o say_v those_o woman_n that_o do_v prophesy_v it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n where_o then_o do_v they_o prophesy_v if_o not_o in_o the_o church_n or_o what_o be_v the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v write_v 1_o thes._n 1._o 1._o that_o the_o church_n be_v in_o god_n and_o where_o must_v a_o woman_n be_v when_o she_o pray_v or_o prophecy_n if_o not_o in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o god_n and_o where_o be_v it_o that_o philips_n four_o daughter_n prophesy_v whether_o in_o the_o church_n or_o out_o of_o it_o and_o where_o be_v it_o that_o that_o priscilla_n do_v minister_n whether_o in_o the_o church_n or_o out_o of_o it_o and_o pheba_n a_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n whether_o she_o may_v not_o pray_v nor_o prophecy_n in_o it_o and_o priscilla_n who_o be_v a_o helper_n of_o paul_n in_o christ_n and_o labour_v with_o he_o in_o the_o gospel_n rom._n 16._o may_v not_o pray_v or_o prophecy_n in_o the_o church_n but_o now_o to_o speak_v the_o truth_n in_o plainness_n to_o thou_o that_o which_o thou_o cavele_v against_o be_v not_o the_o woman_n nor_o the_o man_n simple_o consider_v but_o it_o be_v the_o spirit_n speak_v in_o either_o which_o thou_o can_v bear_v for_o where_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o father_n speak_v in_o man_n or_o woman_n thou_o set_v thy_o self_n against_o it_o to_o oppose_v it_o and_o thou_o say_v susan_n bond_n say_v christ_n be_v the_o husband_n and_o of_o he_o they_o be_v to_o be_v teach_v and_o thou_o say_v sara_n blackborow_n do_v like_o the_o answer_n well_o answ._n who_o can_v like_v it_o ill_a be_v not_o that_o a_o good_a answer_n and_o thou_o thyself_o must_v own_v christ_n to_o be_v thy_o teacher_n and_o learn_v of_o he_o before_o ever_o god_n will_v make_v use_n of_o thou_o in_o his_o service_n or_o work_v though_o the_o priest_n may_v make_v use_n of_o thou_o for_o their_o defender_n again_o page_n 99_o thou_o say_v we_o deny_v that_o any_o shall_v either_o rule_n in_o the_o church_n or_o have_v any_o honour_n answ._n no_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v christ_n to_o rule_n and_o to_o have_v all_o the_o honour_n but_o we_o deny_v any_o priest_n to_o bear_v rule_n by_o his_o mean_n or_o to_o receive_v the_o honour_n due_a unto_o christ_n for_o we_o see_v they_o be_v such_o as_o seek_v honour_n of_o one_o another_o and_o not_o the_o honour_n which_o belong_v to_o god_n only_o now_o whereas_o thou_o go_v about_o to_o vindicate_v that_o wicked_a man_n may_v sing_v psalm_n and_o to_o prove_v it_o make_v this_o argument_n if_o any_o be_v merry_a let_v he_o sing_v psalm_n now_o wicked_a man_n be_v merry_a as_o well_o as_o godly_a though_o they_o have_v no_o true_a 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