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A30189 An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball. Ball, John, 1585-1640.; Ashe, Simeon, d. 1662. 1642 (1642) Wing B558; ESTC R3127 281,779 264

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p._n 2._o pract._n of_o prin._n addi_fw-la and_o therefore_o right_o it_o be_v call_v their_o sterve-us-booke_n six_o god_n have_v no_o where_o appoint_v that_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v tie_v to_o read_v the_o book_n of_o common-prayer_n for_o his_o worship_n and_o therefore_o to_o do_v it_o be_v a_o high_a transgression_n before_o he_o as_o great_a as_o the_o sin_n of_o nadab_n and_o abihu_n and_o such_o be_v liable_a unto_o the_o like_a or_o great_a punishment_n seven_o if_o this_o be_v pray_v and_o there_o be_v never_o a_o ill_a word_n nor_o sentence_n in_o all_o the_o prayer_n yet_o to_o appoint_v it_o to_o be_v use_v or_o to_o use_v it_o as_o papist_n do_v their_o matin_n and_o evening-song_n for_o a_o sea-service_n to_o god_n though_o the_o word_n be_v good_a the_o use_n be_v naught_o the_o word_n of_o the_o first_o chapter_n in_o john_n be_v good_a but_o to_o be_v put_v into_o a_o tablet_n of_o gold_n 55._o 2_o admon_n pag._n 55._o for_o a_o sovereign_a thing_n to_o be_v 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in_fw-la semetipsos_fw-la &_o in_fw-la fratres_fw-la reliquos_fw-la peccare_fw-la qui_fw-la naevis_fw-la istis_fw-la aut_fw-la etiam_fw-la si_fw-la mavis_fw-la corrupt●lis_fw-la et_fw-la svas_fw-la ex_fw-la aliorum_fw-la cos●entias_fw-la non_fw-la leviter_fw-la perturbant_fw-la perinde_v ac_fw-la si_fw-la de_fw-la christianismo_fw-la semel_fw-la ablato_fw-la ageretur_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la vitia_fw-la a_o vitiis_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la condonanda_fw-la sunt_fw-la christianae_n chari●ati_fw-la ab_fw-la iis_fw-la quae_fw-la prorsus_fw-la sunt_fw-la execranda_fw-la pradenter_fw-la distinguenda_fw-la esset_fw-la censeo_fw-la idque_fw-la tamen_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la carnis_fw-la sed_fw-la spiritus_fw-la prudential_a the_o nonconformist_n judge_v it_o unlawful_a to_o subscribe_v to_o that_o book_n that_o every_o thing_n contain_v therein_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n but_o they_o condemn_v not_o the_o book_n as_o a_o idol_n or_o profane_a nor_o the_o use_n of_o the_o book_n 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