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B00537	An exhortation vnto the gouernours, and people of Hir Maiesties countrie of Wales, to labour earnestly, to haue the preaching of the Gospell planted among them. There is in the ende something that was not in the former impression..	Penry, John, 1559-1593.; Waldegrave, Robert, 1554-1604, printer.	1588 (1588)	STC 19605.5; ESTC S94666	73,347	118

question is to be made knowen The slate of the question is whether he be anie minister at all good or bad vnto whome the Lord neuer said go and preach Mat. 28.18.19 I denye such a one to be any which is not whether our readers be such as haue the names supplie the places of ministers for he that will not graunt this denieth heat to be in the fire but whether they by the vnlawfull consent of our corrupt prelats stealing the names intruding themselues vppon the places of ministers that is hauing a corrupt outward calling be ministers indeede So that for the better vnderstanding of this controuersie I graunt that in our Churche in those daies of hir ruines there bee two sortes of ministers First a minister 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 onely in name which is not a minister indeed Secondly a minister both in name and deede which also is double First a minister 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is hauing not only vpon him the name of a minister but also in him these thinges which are agreeable vnto the name and giue the essence and being therevnto Secondly a minister 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which both carrieth the name is pertake of the essence thereof and laboureth to perform indeed whatsoeuer belōgeth vnto his calling onely this minister is the good minister As for the ministers 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 if they bee not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they are all of them euill ministers Of the whiche crue are all those attainted with the faults spoken against a 1. Tim. 3.4.7 in the worde whome although by the censures of the Church they should bee compelled to leaue either theyr faultes or their ministerie yet I dare not deny to be ministers as long as the church tollerateth them vnlesse their offences bee such as presently there ensueth b 2. King 23.9 Ezeb 44.10 a nullitie of their ministerie before the Lord. Those who are onely ministers in name of which sorte by the reasons following I prooue all our readers to bee are not ministers indeede and therefore can by no meanes be accounted ministers Especiallie seeing as good and as able ministers altogether as they are might in ciuill pollicie bee established among the sauadge Caniballs who feed vpon mens flesh though they should neyther suffer any to come amongest them that might teache them true religion nor resorte them selues where the same were professed For our Liturgie booke of Articles manner of ordaining of Bishops and Priests articles agreed vpon by the cleargie in the conuocation house might bee translated vnto their toong they by a Lord-Archbishop or Bishop Caniball might bee mad Deacons or foule Priests to were a surplice a cloake with sleeues a truncke gowne a cap and tipper and I thinke bell and babell ornaments fit inogh for such deformed coxcombs to read a Gospell church women bid fasting dayes and holy-daies profane the Sacramentes praye at the buriall of the dead pronounce a cursse against sinners vppon Ash-wendsday and at no time els ordaine a new Sacrament of the crosse in the profanation of baptisme visit the sicke with a wafer cake and a wine-bottell read Homilies pray for the prosperitie of theeues pyrates murtherers yea a Pope Cardinall Arch-bishop Lord-bishop or any other enemie of God his Church if he trauaile by land or by water and brieflie to performe whatsoeuer anie reader within wales by his outwarde calling is bound to do Now any reasonable man would denie these to be ministers howbeit they emoyed the names and roomes agreeable vnto that function And I pray you what difference should there be betweene these and our readers in regard of their ministerie In their persons I graunt some might bee shewed but that can be nothing to make their ministerie disagree And this out of all controuersie is most true that no ministerie can be where true religion is not no ministerie can be out of the church as we see the ministerie of our readers may For the Apostle inseperablie ioyneth the gathering ' together of the saints with the a Ephes 4.22 worke of the ministerie Where also the importunacie of the distinction that they are euill that they are maimed ministers therfore ministers is esier answered then propoūded by granting thē to be euill may med ministers indeed but so euil and so maimed as they are flatly none so making 2. kinds of euill ministers the one so euil so maimed as they are none at al the other in deede euill and maymed but so as they want not the life whereby a minister is a minister A Chyrurgion entering into a campe of discomfited and wounded men shoulde finde them all it maye bee wounded and maimed in most miserable sorte but some so maimed as they were not men but deade corpses The same is to be said of our foiled and maimed ministerie in this Lande wherein all from the highest to the lowest some few excepted which kepe vs from beeing like Sodome and Gomoraah shal be found mangled by Sathan sorrowfull and desperate sight in their verie essential parts but some so maimed that they are as dead as the doore naile Now that all our readers want the very life essence and beeing whereby a minister is a minister that is are not ministers in deed I proue by these two reasons and haue prooued in the booke by the reasons that shall ensue Whosoeuer wanteth that life which is either prescribed or included in the word to be the life of a minister good or bad hee hath not so much as the life of a badde minister much lesse of a good But our readers want both that life which is prescribed or included in the worde to be the life of a good minister and that which is the life of a bad minister Therefore our readers haue not so much as the life of a bad minister much lesse of a good The proposition is most manifest For whence learne we what giueth life and beeing vnto a minister but out of the woorde The proose of the assumption is thus concluded First there is no essence of that minister either as good or as a bad minister set downe to the worde whereof there is at all no mencion made in worde The truth hereof Appius Caecus might see Doth the worde shewe what life and beeing hee can haue whome it denieth to be at all But our readers are not mentioned in the word as publik ministers Because the word neuer dremt of that minister vnto whome it is not sayd go a Math. 28.19 and teach Therefore there is no essence or life of our readers mentioned off in the worde either as good or as bad ministers Secondly there is no essence or life of that minister either as a good or as a badde minister set downe in the word which is but the ordinance of the church by the ordinance of the church I mean euery ministery minister which is not read of in the word howsoeuer

* choice None of our readers is such ergo (7) 7 Euery minister is * an instrument to make knowen by the word preached the purpose a Colos 1.20.23 28. of God concerning mans reconciliatiō No reder is such ergo (8) 8 Euery minister is able to lay open * the mysteries of saluation No reader is c Looke this reason in the book ergo (9) 9 Euery minister is an * instrument of our new b 1. Pet. 1.21 birth No bare reader is c ergo (10) 10 Euerie minister is able by the preaching of the Gospell to manifest those hidden secreats whiche the Prophets them-selues could not artaine vnto 1 Pet 1.10.12 without great search and enquirie No bare reader can doo this by preaching ergo (11) 11 Euery minister is * able by his publike ministery to bring the elect vnto the knowledge of the truth and so to saluation c 1. Tim. 2.4 No bare reader can doe this ergo (12) 12 Whosoeuer are fit in regard of their sufficiencie to bee their minysters alone that would haue no God d 2. Chron. 15.3 are no ministers indeede All bare readers not beeing able to lay open the will of the true God are onely fit to bee their ministers that would haue no God ergo they are no ministers indeede (13) 13 They are no ministers whosoeuer are able to performe the whole worke of their ministerie without studie and giuing heed vnto learning as the c 1. Tim. 3.14.14 apostle commandeth But all our readers if they can read can performe the whole work of their calling as long as they liue without any further studye ergo they are no ministers indeed 14 14 Euery minister * is able to expound that which f Act. 8.13.14 cannot be vnderstoode without an interpretour viz that which is to be learned out of the word concerning the Lorde mans saluation Our bare readers cannot do this ergo 15 15 Euerie minister * is a minister of that waye whereby the Lord bestoweth vpon men the spirite of wisedome and reuelation through his knowledge g Eze. 2.17 Our bare readers are not such ergo 16 16 Euery * minister is able to make the word of God powerfull either vnto to death or vnto life in a Heb. 4 12.2 2. chro 2 1● some of the hearers Our readers are not able to doe this ergo 17 Euerye minister is * able to deuide the word of God aright 12 vnto the seuerall vse of the hearers b 2. Tim 1.10 co●os 1.5.7 Our readers are not able to do this ergo 18 18 Euery minister is able to tech those that can read c 1. Tim 5.22 3.10 as wel as himself No bare reader can do this ergo 19 19 Euery minister can doe some thing in regarde of teaching his flocke which euery christian who can read well distinctly is not able to performe Our readers can not do this ergo 20 20 whosoeuer by naturall gifts alone are able to performe whatsoeuer belongethto their d Rom 7.7 12.3 ephe● 3.8 1. coa 3.10 4.7 heb 5.4 ephes 4.7 calling they are no ministers bicause there is some thing to speak the least in the ministry of euery minister whiche cannot postiblie bee performed by natural gifts alone Our readers are able by the onely gifts of nature to perfourme whatsoeuer belong vnto their calling ergo our readers are no ministers indeed 21 21 Euery minister * hath gifts to labour in Gods husbandrie and Gods building 22 1. Cor. 3.8 1. Thes 5.2 our readers haue not ergo 22 Euerye * minister hath necessarily annexed vnto his calling workes of that admiration that it maye bee truly sayd of them who is fit for these things 2. Cor. 2.16 our readers are not ergo 23 23. Euerye minister is able to make the Lord so knowen to the elect that they dare call vpon him in saith and full perswasion to be hard Rom. 10.14 8.15 our readers cannot do this ergo 24. Euerie minister is able to cōpare spirituall things with spirituall things 24 and to speake the worde e 1. Cor. 2 13. 1. thes 4.11 of GOD as the word of God our readers are not able to doe this ergo 25 25 Whosoeuer preserueth * not knowledge in his lips that is wanteth the thing the w●●●whereof in a priuate man not beeing censurable by the church viz. not being a sin in it selfe giueth the Lord the church iust cause both to keep them from the mynisterie and to expell them out of the ministery in whome this want is found though they bee euerye way els qualified for the ministery according vnto the a 1. Tim. 3.2.7 ●ir 1.6.7 1. cor 4.2.1 thes 2.2.11 proprieties required in the word hee is no minister Our readers haue this wante in them because their lips doe not preserue knowledge ergo they are no ministers indeed Thus my reason is in the booke page 8. drawen out of Mala. 2.7 is to bee concluded For although a man want all other proprieties of a minister yet being fit to teach he hath some allowaunce from the Lorde to bee a minister whereas the want heere of kepeth back the Lordes whole consent from the admission of him into the ministerie in whom it is The reason whereof is that all other proprieties in a minister sauing this are such as according to the ordinance of God ought to be in euery christian as to be modest harberous no striker c. as well as in the minister though not in the same measute this by the Lords institution is to be in the minister onely of necessitie howbeit other christians also may be and are capable thereof 26 26 Whosoeuer vndergoeth that ministery Looke the book page 8. and no other whereof a Turk Painime or Iewe who will not learne true religion may be capable he in deede is no minister Our readers vndergoe no other ministerie 27 c. ergo 27 They whose ministery make the whole religion of christians not to haue in it so much as one mystery the secrecie whereof euen in regard of knowledge might disable one that neuer heard of true religion to be a publike minister thereof are no ministers in deede The ministerye of all bare readers is such ergo 28 28 They are no ministers who for their ministery alone call for the wrath of God vpon the gouern ours and the land where they are tollerated our readers though otherwise the holiest men vnder heauen call c ergo 29 All ministers * maye truely say of themselues 19 2. Cor. 5.20 now then are we ambassadours from Christe as though God did beseeche you through vs we pray you in Christs steade that you be reconciled vnto God Our readers cannot truely say c ergo 30 Euery one that is a minister in deed hath more

in Englande in these peaceable dayes of her highnes I haue wholye dedicated my selfe to seeke the flowrishing estate thereof By labouring to beautifie the same both in the plucking vp of those filthie Italian weeds wherewith now it is miserablie deformed and planting therein whatsoeuer may bee to the cōlines of gods orchard For my pore country because it hath pleased the Lord of life that therein I first saw the light of the son and haue beene by my parents there liuing brought vp in both the vniuersities of this land I haue vowed my selfe dutifully to benefite the same whether by my life or by my death I do not greatly weye And wherein shall I stand my deare countrimen in any stead if not by speakinge in their cause that are not able to make knowne their owne wantes If not in blessing the deafe eares in remouing the stumblingblock from before the eyes of the blind if not in labouring to bring them to heauen who of their owne natures should liue eternally in a worse place to their own wo. The aforenamed callings and corruptions standing as enemies in the way to hinder my brethren from eternall life I professe my selfe to seeke their ouerthrowe and confusion And by the Lordes assistance as longe as I liue I will neuer leaue them vnles they leaue the massakring of the soules of my brethren In respect of your HH seinge I receiued the former blessings throgh your hands by meanes of the outward peace whereof her right excellent Maiestie hath made the whole kingdome partaker from the Lord I canot of conscience but in most submiss reuerend and humble sort put you in minde of the estate wherein you stand before the Lord at this day I affirme therefore and I would to God I coulde tell howe more dutifully to expresse in wordes that whiche in heart I haue most dutifully conceiued that all of you are in a feareful manner both in this life and in that to come subiect to the intollerable masle of Gods wrath the execution whereof shall vndoubtedly come vpon you and your houses vnles you preuent the fiercenes of his indignation And that for these 2. causes First inasmuch as the whole countrie of Wales for the most part all this time of the Gospell in England hath bene without the publike seruice of God in the publike meetings of your people in such sort as most parrishes within Wales haue wanted the means of saluation all this time of your gouernement The trueth of this assertion is manifested in this little booke because they haue wanted a Ia. 2.21 1. pet 1.25 Iob. 33.23 1. cor 1.21 rom 10.14 eph 1.13 2.17 act 20.32 prou 8.34.35 isai 53.11 preaching and I haue elswher to my power laboured to make it known vnto her Maiestie the parliament Consider my Lordes what care you haue had of the soules of men and howe in the day of account these things will be answered Consider how lamentable a case it is that in the flowrishingst gouernment for outwarde peace that is againe vnder the coape of heauen where publicke idolatrie hath bene bannished not one familie or one tribe but a whole nation should perish and be destroyed for want of knowledge And see whether I haue not sufficient cause to deale with you in the behalfe of my countrimen My crie my crie is not the crie of guiltles and innocent a blood b Deut. 21.8 which were verie wofull but of lost and damned soules which is most lamentable giue eare vnto it my LL. lest the blood of soules be laid to your charge required at your hands If I be thoght to report an vntruth in regard of the estate of the Church in my countrie let me bee brought face to face for the triall hereof with those vnto whom the care I should say the spoile of the Church there is committed and being conuinced to haue vttered an vntrueth let me haue no fauor but die the death before your Honours and my blood bee vppon mine owne head for impeaching the credit of the princes of my people vndutifullie by publike writing whose estimation I know it to be vnlawfull for mee euen in thought once to violate I do here therefore before your HH offer to proue that the most congregations in Wales want the verie essential outward marks of a true church and so the meanes of saluation and the comfort of faith by the right administration of the sacraments I also offer to proue that you shal be reckoned with without your speedie repentaunce because that in this point you haue plowed but iniquitie and sowed wickednesse and so as Iob saith you shall reape the same Belieue them not that tell you all is well Iob. 4.8 vnder your gouernment in Wales and that they are a sort of clamorous and vndiscreet men that affirme the contrarie Beleeue them not that tell you that it belongeth not vnto your dutie to be careful of the estate of the Church that the Lord requireth no more at your hands but to maintain outward peace As though men committed to your gouernement were but droues of bruit beastes onely to be foddered and kept from externall inuasions and inrodes giue care rather vnto the woordes of the prophet who with a loude voice crieth vnto you why will you die you your families Ierem. 27.23.14 and your people by the sword by the famine and by the pestilence and why wil you be damned as the Lord hath spoken against I may allude without iniurie to the word all those gouernours that will not a Ezra 7.17.23 psal 2.10 101 2. chro 29.10 30.9 34.27 exod 20.10 gen 18.19.2 chron 15.12.13 17.7 see their people prouided of the meanes of saluation Therfore heare not the wordes of the Prophetes that tell you you shall neither see sworde or famine though you be still as careles of your people as you hytherto haue bene looke the punishement both of the flatteringe prophets and of those that are deceiued by their flatterie Ierem. 14.16 Heare them not I say but obey the Lorde in the execution of that dutie which he efflagitateth at your handes by calling of your people vnto the knowledge of his sonne that you may liue for why should this land bee made desolate for this your carelesnes Ier. 27.17 They prophesie vanity a lie vnto your HH that saie peace peace vnto you while in this point you despise the Lorde and walke still in this secure course or else a Iere. 23.16.17 Ieremie is deceiued if they be prophets And if the word of the lord be in their mouthes b Ierem. 27.18 let them intreat the Lorde her Maiestie and your HH and stirre you vp to see that the miserie of helplesse Wales may be considered off You are in a miserable taking my LL that either you haue none about you to tell you of these things or that men dare not tel you of thē you are more