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A67229 An anti-christian conspiracy detected, and Satan's champion defeated being a reply to an envious & scurrilous libel without any name to it, called, Work for a cooper : being also a vindication of my book, entituled, The antiquity of the Quakers ... / by me Thomas Wynne. Wynne, Thomas. 1679 (1679) Wing W3781; ESTC R34103 42,818 59

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this time I lost no opportunity to inform my self in the Practice of Chyrurgery and continued thus untill I became acquainted with an honest Friend and good Artist in Chyrurgery whose Name was Richard Moore of Salop who seeing my forwardness to Chyrurgery did further me in it and brought me to Defections in Salop the Anotomists being men of known worth in that Practice whose Names are Dr. Needham and Dr. Hollins who at this day are doubtless of deserved Repute in their Professions in England and I being then expert in Drils and Handy in Knife and Lancet other Inst●uments for that purpose I set on making a Skell ton of a mans Bones which I on●y with the assistance of Richard Moore performed to their content at which time they thought me fit to be Licensed the practice of Chyrurgery and this is near 20. Years ago and soon after ●●b●ing taken Prisoner to Denbigh where I remained a Prisoner near six Years for the Testimony of Jesus I then betook my self wholly to the Practice of Chyrurgery and God was with me in my undertakings to him be the Glory forever and why then did not my envious Adversary to the abovesaid Instr●ments have added tho Plaister Box and Salvatory the Trafine and the Head Saw the Amputation Saw and the Catling the Cauterv S●rring and Catheter with many more which with Gods assistance I have used with good success for the space of near 20. years last past which was near thrice as long as I used those he speaks of 〈◊〉 to the gr●at comfort of many who had some of them their Limbs gangrened others Fractured others Dislocated others desperately Wounded by Gun shots others pierced thorow with Rapiers others with Ulcers and Fistula's and Cancers which I exterpated by Gods assistance Cured yea many Scores are living Monuments of Gods Mercy to this day who were Spectacles of great misery in these respects And as touching his R●flection and Detraction enviously seeking to l●ssen my Reputation in my present Calling of Chyrurgery is no more to me then the barking of a Dog and though Dogs yelp at the Moon yet they can not hinder her Light I bel●e●e he is Ignorant in his very Trade of quack Chyrurgery Li●eller pag. 2● and cannot so much as Enlighten his credulous and very adventerous Patients with the meaning of the Hip● Epigasto●a the Medulla Spinolis and Piloras c. Rep. It s possible that for all his malign Detraction that to any whom it may concern I shall be able to give them such satisfaction as becomes a Practitioner in Chyrurgery to do having for at least 20. Years of great Industry informed my self in Anatomy especially that part of it that belongs to a Chyrurgeon viz. of knowing the Structure and Scituation of mans Body and not only so but have with painful endeavours inform'd my s●lf of the best Authors with the Nature of the Humours Spi●its and Ferments and of their Co-opperation in the Bodies of men neither have I rested here but have acquainted my self with both antient and modern Institutions and the Aphorisms Observation of worthy men but what my attainments are in these particulars I think not fit to be mentioned here nor was it ever in my Heart to have said thus much had it not been a force put upon me however this I hope I alwayes shall be ready while God enab●es me as I have been hitherto when called upon to serve my Country according to my ability not only in saying but doing also and there is no mark of disgrace which my Adversary would Characterize me by to disgrace me with but I would as freely serve my Country now therein as ever were I not able to serve them in a better capacity I could if it were needful bring many Testimonies of famous men in the practise of Chyrurgery who were first bred up Mechanicks as Pereas Fellix Worteus Carranus Fellopius Spigellius Hilldanus and Aquepandente nay Leonard Phycrebeate a very famous Man sayes It s necessary for Youth to be so bred up his Reason is ●t will make them more handy and dexterous in the manuel Opperations of Chyrurgery Libeller in pag. 27. calls me Lay-Preacher and bids me call my self a Lyar and Fool for when said he did any true Minister of the Church of England make any fawning Addresses to Richard Cromwell or bemone the Death of Oliver Rep. What I said there concerning the Priests is certainly true for I said some of the Priests bemoned the Death of Oliver and in their Addresses to Richard compared Oliver to Moses and Richard to Joshuah c. it therefore had become him to read the Priests Addresses before he had charged me with Lyar and Fool and did it not at this time look too like Revenge which is none of my way I have a Sheet in readiness that I could have produced to my defence which if a force be put upon me may come forth which will shew them in their Colours and further clear the point and for my part I heartily wish we may hear no more of this except we hear it and see it in the Penetential Confession of the Offenders And although I be a Lay-man as he calls me yet I have a Testimony to bear for God in this day and time and since he would exclude such what makes him believe the antient Quakers who were Lay-men Exod. 3.1 Moses was a Keeper of Sheep and was it not this Lay-man and Quaker that gave record how God created Man in the Beginning and the World and all therein and did not this Lay-man give Testimony of the Flood destroying the old World and of Noah's being saved in the Ark with much more of the Work of God for the D●liverance of his People both Patriarchs and Prophets c. as may at large be read in his books And was not David a Keeper of Sheep 2 Sam. 7.8 I took thee from the Sheep-coats 1 Sam. 24.3 Saul came to the Sheep-coats after David 1 Kings 19.19 Elisha was a Plow-man Amos 3.4 Amos was a Herds-man Mat. 4.18 Simon Peter and Andrew his Brother were Fishers John 21. Simon Peter said I go a Fishing they that were with him said We go with thee John ●1 3 He expresse● himself after the same manner Now you may see how these Preache●● after they had been preaching to the Nations Mat. 10 they fell to their Nets again and I hope the Libeller dare not say but that they were rightly ordained to their Ministry yet we see that their way of Livelihood was thei● Fishing-trade and not to usurp Authority over the people nor were they Incombants to any Places nor inducted to any Benefice with Right to Tythes of One hundred or Two Hundred or Three Hundred a Year more or less Now if Peter or John should have come in their Fishers Coats to preach the Gospel in our days would not the Libeller abuse them think ye and bid them mind their Nets and their
David's rejoycing Rejoyce in the Lord alwayes c. There is a Light sprung up for the Righteous and joyful gladness for such as are true-hearted Reply It had become him here to have distinguished the Righteous and True-hearted and have told me the place where and time when any man comes to be such since its the Papist Doctrine That men first must go to Purgatory before they can be such And the profest Presbyter Independent and Baptist say None can be such in this Life then since it s our Faith as well as theirs that there is no such place of Purgatory after this Life my Opponent should have told then positively the place where and time when any is Righteous This was the Belief of those Saints who were no Quakers Libeller p. 5. however disgusted by those Quakers who are no Saints Reply Is not this to contradict himself again who confessed Vntil we have mortified our Lusts we ought to work out our Salvation with Fear and Trembling It seems as if it were part of his own Belief else he saith he ought to do that which is no p●rt of his Belief This doth not make it appear that the Saints he speaks of were no Quakers nor the present Quakers no Saints He quotes again pag. 10. Sorrow endures for a Night Libeller p. 10. but Joy cometh in the Morning Rep. Is not Sin the work of that Night the Prophet speaks of there since that Sorrow must continue during that Night then sure Quaking and Trembling may be comprehended in the word Sorrow then it still maintain● my Argument And what can be more clear then that all must pass through a state of Sorrow before they come to know true rejoycing And what 's that Joy which cometh in the Morning Is it not in this Life to witness the Morning Star Christ Jesus to expel all the Deeds of Darkness by his Bright Appearance in the Soul and who thus come to witness this Bright and Morning Star to arise in their Hearts such come to know the Rejoycing that Paul and David were come to and great cause they have when come truly to experience God's taking the Cup of Trembling from them and giving the Cup of Salvation unto them instead thereof And that it was thus with Paul and David that they passed through a great Gulf of Sorrow and Trembling will further appear by these following Testimonies of theirs Acts 9.5 6. And he said Lord what wilt thou have me to do I am Jesus whom thou persecutest its hard for thee to kick against the Pricks And he Trembling Astonished said Lord What wilt thou have me to do Rom. 7.24 Oh wretched Man that I am who shall deliver me from this Body of Death Read the Chapter thoroughout and see what Exercises he had in the Warfare with Sin 2 Cor. 11. Knowing therefore the Terrors of the Lord we perswade men with many more Testimonies cited in my Book to this purpose Now here what the Prophet David saith to this matter Psal 38.1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8. 2. Thine Arrows stick fast in me and thy hand presseth me sore 3. There is no Soundness in my Flesh because of thine Anger Neither is there any rest in my Bones because of my Sin 4. For mine Iniquities is gone over my Head as a heavy burden they are too heavy for me 5. My VVounds stinck and are Corrupt because of my foolishness 6. I am troubled I am bowed down greatly I go Mourning all the Day long 7. For my Loyns are filled with a loathsome Disease and there 's no soundness in my Flesh 8. I am feeble and sore broken I have roared by reason of the disquietness of my Heart Now had Paul and David been in our time and our Libeller had seen them in these Exercises and heard their Cryes their Groans Roarings and Terrors because of their Sins thou mayst judge by his Book how he would have treated them Hear David a little further Psal 55. Fearfulness and Trembling are come upon me and Horror hath overwhelmed me See more of him in my Antiquity of the Quakers Job 3.28 My Bowels boyled and rested not the Day of Affliction prevented me I went Mourning without the Sun I cryed in the Congregation my Skin is black upon me my Bones are burnt with heat my Harp also is turned to Mourning and my Organ unto the Voice of them that weep I might multiply Testimonies to this but these may evidence to all who are not given up to a Reprobate Spirit that it s yet too timely for my Adversary to come with his Song before the Lord our God Nay nay it s my Testimony to all of what Perswasion soever that there 's none shall enter God's Kingdom until first they have passed through a state of Sorrow and great Mourning yea Quaking and Trembling because of sin and he that gets out of this Furnis and not purified in it of his Dross and purged of his Tin he will not be currant Mettal to pass into the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ but whosoever comes to witness a passing through this Dispensation of Sorrow and come to know experimentally the cause of it taken away viz. To be delivered from their Enemies Luke 1 such only may approach the Presence of our God with a Song yea with a Song of Deliverance even the Song of Moses and the Lamb. Then after he hath bespattered us with a great deal of Lyes and Dirt in pag. 5. as indeed little else is to be found in his Book except some Scripture-Quotations and to pursue him in all his Dirt were near to transcribe his Book In page 6. he begins on one of my Scripture Testimonies And this is evidenced by his 4th page where he observes with a World of Wit Libeller p. 6. Isaac trembled for having mistaken Jacob for Esau and then presently infers that Isaac was a Quaker A strong and choice way of arguing by which he makes him pay dearer for his inadvertance than ever Esau was forced to do Rep. This as much shews him a Stranger to the two Seeds Tipified by Jacob and Esau as what he hath said before shews him a stranger to the two States spoken of before he could not see how one Misery ushered in another on Esau First He had sold his Birth right for a mess of Pottage and now by Hunting had lost the blessing also And could Isaac be less then in great Sorrow and Dread to see the sad State that Esau was come unto And was not Esau's Hunting a true Figure of his and other mens wandring abroad from the G●ft of God within them and Isaac having a true sence of this made him Quake and Tremble but how he paid dearer for his Inadvertance than Esau had need to do is yet for my Adversary to prove for Esau could not find a place of Repentance although he sought it with Tears By this any sober man may endued with heavenly Wisdom
receiv'd and it is the most blessed Treasure for as every one holds it fast they shall know it to be a Bond of Peace even the Peace of God which by his Son Christ Jesus is given unto us which as we abide faithful in his blessed Truth shall never be taken away from us So in a living Sence of this undefiled Love of God do I dearly salute you all where this may come who am your Brother in the Fellowship of the Gospel of Peace who am known to the World by the Name Thomas Wynne Caerwis the 1st Day of the 11th Moneth 1678. Postscript THis infamous Libeller in page 2 and 3. layes down his Charge against the said Thomas Wynne thus Libeller 1st He sayes That all the Writers of the holy Scriptures and all the Saints of God mentioned there were Quakers page 11 14. Secondly That the present Quakers have got the Key of David with which they and they only can unlock all Mysteries p. 11. Thirdly That all Schollars especially the Priests having quite lost this Key cannot tell the Meaning of the Scriptures and that their Hearers have not so much Discretion as Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar bad p. 12. Fourthly That the Ministers of God the Priests of this Church and those that hear them are all running Head-long to Destruction p. 14. He further adds thus viz. These are the main Pillars our Quaker superstructs all his Foolary upon and most justly deserves for his Pains to be rewarded with a Whipping-post that by taking a lawful Dance about that he might assay also to prove the Antiquity of a Lancashire Horn Pipe Reply In all these four Particulars this Libeller doth falsly charge the said T. W. as may be seen in those pages of his Book which the Libeller quotes In p. 14. T.W. saith thu● Oh! you Priests of all sorts I beseech you for Christ's sake do not run thus headlong to Destruction and draw the poor blind People after you Reader seriously consider how falsly and wickedly this Libeller hath dealt with T. W. For T. W. doth not say That the Ministers of God the Priests of this Church and those that hear them are all running headlong to Destruction and therefore this Author hath grosly belyed T. W. in this matter But more fully to prove that this Libeller hath grosly belyed the said T. W. take T. W. his own words as followeth p. 21 22. who writing against the Papists Protestants Presbyterians Independants and Anabaptists I know saith he there are some particular persons of each of you who are come so far to be led guided by the holy Principle in them that they dare not scoff nor jear any but are troubled to see any others do so who have shewed their Moderation so much as they themselves have not escaped being Sharers in the Reproach of the Quakers These I distinguish from the rest and what I charge the afore-mentioned with and I heartily desire that they may witness a growth in the heavenly Principle which will further them in holy living and make them able to discern who they are that fear God and who fear him not Thus far T. W. word for word Thus the Libeller is plainly proved to be a Forger of Lyes and his Pamphlet to be made up of Lyes and Scoffing writ in a Spirit of Envy and therefore to be abhorred by all people who come to a sight or knowledge thereof Secondly The said Libeller chargeth the said T. VV. with saying That all Schollars especially the Priests have quite lost this Key cannot tell the Meaning of the Scripture And that their Hearers have not so much discretion as Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar had Rep. This is another forged Lye or rather two Lyes f●● first T. W. believes and certainly knows that there are Schollars who have the Key and know the meanings of the Scriptures and he also knows that there are some who hear the Priests who have as much discretion as Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar had and this he shews in what is said before in pag. 21 22. of his Book Secondly This Libeller chargeth the said T. W. with saying That the present Quakers have got the Key of David with which they and they ONLY can unlock all Mysteries Rep. The said Libeller hath forged and told a Lye in this charge against T. W. for though T. W. doth say that The Quakers at this day have the Key of David which doth unlock all the Mysteries of all his Brethrens Writings Yet T. W. doth not say that the Quakers only have this Key Fourthly The said Libeller charges the said T. W. with saying in pag. 11 and 14. of his Book That all the Writers of the holy Scriptures and all the Saints of God mentioned there were Quakers Rep. T.W. doth not say in the aforesaid pages That all the Writers of the holy Scriptures and all the Saints of God mentioned there were Quakers therefore this Libeller hath belyed him in this matter But if T. W. had said That all the Writers of the holy Scriptures and all the Saints of God mentioned there were Quakers yet those sayings may be true for any thing this Libeller knows or for any thing he hath offered in this his Pamphlet to prove the contrary The Apostle said God hath concluded all under Sin that he might have Mercy upon all Again the Apostle said We have all sinned and come short of the Glory of God Again We have all been gone astray as Sheep without a Shepherd but now we are returned to the Captain of our Salvation and Bishop of our souls And the Apostle exhorted saying VVork out your Salvation with Fear and Trembling for it is God that worketh in us to will and to do of his own good pleasure as saith the Apostle This Libeller in page 4. of his Pamphlet saith We ought to work out our Salvation with Fear and Trembling Now seeing all have sinned as the Apostle said and seeing the Apostle exhorts People to work out their Salvation with Fear and Trembling If they take the Apostles counsel then they must work out their Salvation with Fear and Trembling and if 〈◊〉 do so then they do Quake or Tremble and so in a sence may be called Quakers or Tremblers the words Quaking and Trembling being of one and the same Signification The holy Prophet said Serve the Lord with Fear and rejoyce in him with Trembling c. And the Lord God said To this man will I look even to him that is poor and of a contrite Spirit and Tremblesh at my VVord Again the Lord saith Hear the VVord of the Lord ye that Tremble at his Word your Brethren that hated you that cast you out for my Names sake said Let the Lord be glorified but he shall appear to your Joy and they shall be ashamed Isa 66.2 5. Reader Take notice that though we own Quaking and Trembling as the People of God did both before the Law and under the Law and also in the dayes