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A03883 A treatise concerning the ground of faith. VVritten in Latin, by the reuerend Father Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English, by I.L. of the same Society. The second part of the second controuersy; Controversiarum epitomes. English. Selections Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1614 (1614) STC 13997A; ESTC S118149 27,760 72

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with_o his_o church_n not_o only_o one_o or_o two_o day_n or_o one_o year_n but_o even_o till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n vit_fw-mi he_o promise_v that_o he_o will_v give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o remain_v and_o stay_v with_o we_o not_o for_o one_o on_o two_o year_n only_o but_o everlasting_o it_o be_v needful_a therefore_o that_o he_o perform_v and_o stand_v to_o his_o promise_n 28._o the_o second_o argument_n if_o those_o thing_n which_o we_o have_v say_v of_o the_o church_n as_o judge_n be_v true_a it_o will_v also_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n be_v judge_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o consequent_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o general_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o general_n can_v be_v call_v in_o question_n or_o doubt_v of_o by_o any_o which_o profess_v christ._n for_o the_o divine_a faith_n can_v be_v without_o some_o word_n of_o god_n but_o where_o there_o be_v no_o controversy_n there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o any_o judge_n but_o if_o of_o any_o one_o part_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n whether_o it_o be_v write_v or_o not_o write_v there_o arise_v any_o controversy_n as_o for_o 16._o example_n of_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o write_a word_n without_o doubt_n we_o must_v recurre_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n for_o it_o belong_v unto_o she_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o of_o the_o exposition_n thereof_o which_o be_v the_o chief_a part_n of_o the_o write_a word_n as_o also_o of_o any_o doubtful_a letter_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n for_o see_v that_o in_o time_n past_a there_o have_v be_v many_o controversye_n of_o diverse_a book_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o of_o the_o particular_a chapter_n and_o part_n thereof_o as_o also_o of_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o letter_n and_o other_o write_a point_n of_o say_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o no_o other_o judge_n but_o the_o catholic_a church_n have_v end_v or_o define_v all_o these_o controversye_n 29._o but_o in_o this_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n to_o be_v consider_v the_o one_o that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o judge_v of_o any_o part_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n out_o of_o her_o own_o proper_a sense_n and_o judgement_n 13._o or_o at_o she_o own_o pleasure_n without_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o her_o adversary_n and_o namely_o calvin_n do_v wrongful_o slander_v she_o but_o by_o one_o part_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v better_o know_v she_o judge_v of_o that_o which_o be_v less_o know_v ●…nd_v manifest_a unto_o we_o as_o for_o example_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n deliver_v by_o tradition_n she_o judge_v of_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o true_a sense_n thereof_o 30._o the_o other_o thing_n to_o be_v consider_v be_v that_o when_o the_o church_n do_v 28._o judge_v of_o these_o thing_n they_o be_v not_o man_n only_o which_o judge_n as_o our_o adversary_n pretend_v but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n also_o himself_o who_o judge_v and_o speak_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o church_n it_o seem_v good_a say_v the_o apostle_n to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o us._n for_o even_o as_o the_o action_n of_o a_o man_n body_n be_v not_o so_o proper_o the_o action_n of_o the_o body_n as_o of_o the_o soul_n which_o quicken_v and_o move_v the_o body_n so_o the_o action_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n be_v not_o so_o much_o to_o be_v attribute_v unto_o man_n who_o be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o body_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o unto_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o soul_n which_o give_v life_n and_o motion_n to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n they_o therefore_o who_o deny_v this_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o only_o injurious_a to_o the_o church_n but_o also_o to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n hitherto_o of_o the_o property_n office_n and_o power_n of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ._n it_o remain_v now_o we_o show_v such_o a_o 〈◊〉_d church_n as_o the_o scripture_n declare_v and_o describe_v unto_o we_o the_o which_o calvin_n as_o we_o have_v say_v before_o earnest_o desire_v of_o us._n finis_fw-la 1._o ad_fw-la tim._n 3._o v._n 15._o cap._n 13._o seq_n §._o 16._o ad_fw-la hebr●…_n 6._o v_o 18._o exod._n 20._o v_o 22._o exod._n 24._o v_o 2._o 3._o ad_fw-la gal._n ●…_n v_o 12._o calu._n l._n 1_o inst._n cap._n 7._o sect_n 1._o &_o 2._o calu._n eod●…_n c._n 7._o sect_n 4._o in_o fine_a &_o sect_n 5._o supra_fw-la contro_fw-la 1._o c._n 5._o &_o infra_fw-la hac_fw-la contr_n 6._o cap._n 15._o supra_fw-la controu_fw-fr 1._o cap._n 4._o supra_fw-la controver_n 1._o c._n 26._o &_o sequent_a s._n irenaeus_n l._n 3._o cap._n 4._o supra_fw-la contr._n 1._o c._n 26._o &_o 27._o ad_fw-la rom._n 3._o v._n 4._o 2._o ad_fw-la tim._n 2._o v._n 19_o calu._n l._n 4._o instit._fw-la c._n 1._o sect_n 2._o vide_fw-la disp_n paris_n a_o 1566._o in_o disp_n 1._o diei_fw-la sub_fw-la finem_fw-la 2._o ad_fw-la cor_fw-la the_o 4._o v._n 13._o eccles._n 19_o v_o 4._o 1._o joan._n 4._o v._n 1._o supra_fw-la cap._n 3._o huius_fw-la controu_n supra_fw-la cap._n 7._o huius_fw-la controu_n matth._n 10._o v._n 20._o joan._n 14._o v_o 1●…_n joan._n 16._o v._n 13._o supra_fw-la c._n 8._o huius_fw-la controu_n gal._n 1._o v._n 12._o tertul._n l._n 4_o contra_fw-la marci_n c._n 2._o s._n hier._n ep._n 11._o s._n aug._n tom_n c._n contra_fw-la paustum_fw-la manich._n l._n 28._o c._n 4._o te●…t_fw-la loco_fw-la citato_fw-la gal._n 2._o v._n 2_o luc_n 1._o v_o 1._o matt._n 18._o v._n 17._o 1._o joan_n 4._o v_o 6._o calu._n l._n 4._o instit._fw-la c._n 9_o sect_n 1._o &_o bezac_n 4._o suae_fw-la confess_n sect_n 27._o s._n thom._n 〈◊〉_d 4._o libro_fw-la contra_fw-la gent._n infra_fw-la cap._n 19_o huius_fw-la controu_n ad_fw-la rom._n ●…0_n v_o 14._o &_o seq_n 1._o ad_fw-la tim._n 3_o v_o 15._o jo●…_n 9_o v._n 6._o psalm_n 74._o vel_fw-la iuxta_fw-la hebr●…s_n 7●…_n v_o 4._o calu._n in_o 1._o ad_fw-la tim._n 3._o v._n 15._o infra_fw-la hac_fw-la controu_n cap._n 16._o in_o fine_a calu._n loco_fw-la citato_fw-la ad_fw-la rom._n 10._o v._n 17._o beza_n in_o 1._o ad_fw-la t●…_n 3._o v._n 1●…_n s._n aug._n tom._n 6._o contra_fw-la epist._n manichaei_n cap._n 5._o calu._n l._n 1._o instit._fw-la sect_n 3●…_n s._n august_n tom._n 6._o contra_fw-la faustum_n l._n 13._o c._n 4._o cap._n 7._o praecedent_n 2._o ad_fw-la corinth_n 1●…_n v_o 3_o 1._o ad_fw-la thes._n 4._o v_o ●…_n calu._n l._n 1._o iust._n c._n 9_o sect_n 2._o 1._o ad_fw-la cor●…nt_fw-la 2._o v._n 15._o calu._n c._n 9_o citat_fw-la sect_n ●…_n 1._o joan._n 4._o v._n 6._o infra_fw-la c._n 18._o huius_fw-la conir_fw-fr ●…_n 10._o calu._n lib._n 1_o iust._n c._n 7._o sect_n 2._o beza_n in_o 2._o c._n ad_fw-la ephes._n v._n 20._o calu._n loco_fw-la citato_fw-la s._n chrysost._n hom._n 6._o in_o c._n 2._o ad_fw-la ephes_n s._n august_n tom._n 8._o in_o psal._n 86._o ad_fw-la v_o ●…_n theophil_n &_o alij_fw-la in_o c._n 2_o ad_fw-la ephes._n ad_fw-la ephes._n 2._o v_o 14._o apocal._n 21_o v._n 14._o s._n august●…_n tom._n 8_o in_o psal._n 86._o in_o initio_fw-la psal._n 5._o v_o 7._o cap._n 13._o praecedent_n §._o 17._o &_o 19_o ad_fw-la rom._n 10._o v._n 17._o supra_fw-la c._n 7._o canus_n l._n 2._o de_fw-la locis_fw-la theol._n c._n 8._o bellarm._n l._n 3_o de_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la c._n ul●…_n joan_n 1._o v_o 7_o joan_n 5._o v_o 34._o eodem_fw-la c._n 5._o v._n 36._o eodem_fw-la c._n 5._o v._n 36._o cap._n 5._o matth._n 3._o v_o ult._n matth._n 17._o v._n 5._o suprac_n 8._o &_o 13._o huius_fw-la controu_n tertul._n l._n 4_o contra_fw-la marci_n c._n 2._o luc._n 1._o v._n 2._o supra_fw-la cap._n 5._o contr._n 1_o toletanun_n council_n c._n 16._o rom._n 20._o v._n 8._o ad_fw-la ro●…_n ●…0_n v_o 10._o ibid_fw-la v_o 14_o ●…_n isaiae_n 59_o v_o u●…_n 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n 4._o v._n 15._o beilarm_n l._n 3._o de_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la c_o ult._n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la 14_o argum_fw-la cap._n 13._o praecedent_n §._o 17._o &_o 1●…_n joan._n ●…5_n v_o 24._o s._n august●…_n tom._n 9_o tract_n 91._o in_o joan._n joan._n 10._o v_o ●…7_n cap._n 18._o contr●…_n ●…_n joan._n 5._o v_o ●…_n psalm_n 1●…_n isaiae_n 8._o v_o 20._o joa●…_n 16._o v_o 13._o 1._o ad_fw-la tim._n 3._o v._n 15._o matt._n 18._o v._n 17._o 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n 4._o v_o ult._n 2._o cor._n ult._n v._n 2._o 2._o cor._n ult._n v._n 10._o matth._n 18._o v._n 19_o joan_n 20._o v_o 23._o 1._o cor._n 5._o v._n 34._o &_o 5._o 1._o cor._n ●…_n v_o 〈◊〉_d num._n 11._o v._n 16._o 17._o &_o 25._o deut._n 17._o v_o 8._o &_o seq_n 2._o par._n 19_o v._n 10._o &_o 11._o mat._n 2_o v._n ●…_n &_o 3_o act._n 15._o v._n 28._o act._n 15._o v_o ult._n &_o act._n 16._o v._n 4._o act._n 21._o v._n 25._o calu._n in_o antid_v contra_fw-la council_n trid._n sess_v 1._o in_o fine_a ad_fw-la titum_fw-la 1._o v._n 2._o math._n vit_fw-mi v_o vit_fw-mi john_n 14._o v_o 16._o council_n trident_n sess_v 4._o calu._n l_o 4._o instit._fw-la c._n 8._o sect_n 13._o act._n 15._o v._n 28._o calu._n in_o antid_v contra_fw-la 4._o sess_v concilij_fw-la trid._n in_o 〈◊〉_d
faith_n we_o do_v not_o understand_v by_o the_o church_n the_o shoulder_n or_o body_n of_o they_o who_o be_v in_o she_o but_o their_o authority_n doctrine_n and_o preach_v for_o by_o these_o thing_n faith_n be_v engender_v and_o as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v faith_n be_v by_o hear_v 15._o but_o whensoever_o we_o treat_v of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n we_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o want_v true_a faith_n which_o be_v deaf_a dumb_a or_o foolish_a and_o which_o also_o either_o neglect_v or_o not_o understand_v the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o scripture_n for_o such_o a_o church_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ._n but_o we_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o believe_v which_o speak_v which_o preach_v the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n which_o keep_v and_o expound_v the_o scripture_n most_o faithful_o and_o which_o fit_o apply_v they_o in_o sermon_n &_o exhortation_n among_o we_o therefore_o all_o these_o word_n have_v one_o and_o the_o same_o signification_n the_o church_n the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n the_o preach_v and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n the_o word_n of_o god_n preach_v by_o the_o church_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n propose_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o church_n and_o we_o understand_v all_o these_o thing_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n when_o we_o say_v that_o she_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n for_o all_o these_o thing_n be_v either_o property_n action_n or_o office_n of_o the_o church_n which_o can_v be_v separate_v from_o she_o 16._o wherefore_o our_o adversary_n do_v err_v exceed_o when_o they_o separate_v every_o one_o of_o these_o from_o the_o church_n and_o oppose_v or_o object_v it_o against_o she_o as_o though_o it_o be_v a_o quite_o distinct_a thing_n from_o she_o nay_o of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n they_o make_v she_o the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n therefore_o the_o apostolical_a &_o prophetical_a doctrine_n must_v not_o be_v separate_v and_o make_v opposite_a unto_o the_o church_n as_o calvin_n do_v see_v that_o it_o be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n calvin_n therefore_o dispute_v as_o if_o one_o shall_v make_v this_o argument_n a_o man_n without_o his_o soul_n neither_o see_v speak_v nor_o understandeth_v therefore_o a_o man_n neither_o see_v speak_v nor_o understand_v 17._o but_o peradventure_o some_o will_v say_v we_o have_v say_v a_o little_a before_o that_o faith_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n and_o now_o we_o 7._o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n whereof_o the_o one_o seem_v to_o be_v contrary_a unto_o the_o other_o i_o answer_v that_o here_o there_o be_v no_o contrariety_n for_o there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o faith_n the_o one_o be_v the_o particular_a faith_n of_o every_o christian_a whereby_o together_o with_o hope_n and_o charity_n every_o one_o be_v justify_v the_o other_o be_v the_o general_a and_o common_a faith_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o particular_a faith_n of_o each_o one_o rely_v upon_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n upon_o the_o faith_n preach_v and_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o she_o herself_o rely_v upon_o the_o general_a faith_n and_o profession_n and_o preach_a thereof_o in_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n when_o therefore_o we_o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n we_o speak_v of_o the_o particular_a faith_n of_o every_o christian._n but_o when_o we_o say_v that_o faith_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n we_o speak_v of_o the_o general_a faith_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n 18._o there_o be_v other_o argument_n of_o our_o adversary_n but_o we_o may_v easy_o answer_v ul●…_n thereunto_o by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v already_o say_v the_o which_o melchior_n canus_n and_o bellarmine_n do_v prosecute_v and_o handle_v more_o at_o large_a unto_o who_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n for_o they_o be_v borrow_v of_o the_o anabaptist_n &_o libertine_n whereby_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n themselves_o be_v no_o less_o diminish_v and_o infringe_v then_o that_o of_o the_o church_n chap._n vii_o that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o only_o give_v a_o bare_a testimony_n but_o also_o authority_n to_o the_o scripture_n this_o matter_n be_v here_o brief_o to_o be_v examine_v that_o it_o may_v more_o clear_o be_v understand_v how_o necessary_a the_o church_n approbation_n be_v to_o the_o establish_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o to_o the_o end_n that_o it_o may_v more_o clear_o appear_v whereof_o we_o dispute_v in_o this_o place_n it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v that_o see_v that_o our_o adversary_n can_v deny_v but_o that_o the_o church_n affoard_v some_o testimony_n to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n they_o affirm_v that_o this_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v only_o a_o bare_a testimony_n and_o not_o a_o testimony_n of_o authority_n 2._o for_o there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o testimony_n the_o one_o be_v call_v 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