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A57981 A survey of the Survey of that summe of church-discipline penned by Mr. Thomas Hooker ... wherein the way of the churches of N. England is now re-examined ... / by Samuel Rutherfurd ... Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1658 (1658) Wing R2395; ESTC R19199 491,661 530

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