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authority_n in_o ecclesiasticalll_n matter_n and_o so_o do_v they_o t._n c._n pag._n 8._o sect._n 6._o i_o have_v answer_v in_o the_o it_o the_o where_o you_o have_v not_o speak_v one_o word_n of_o it_o ten_o article_n of_o anabaptisme_n io._n whitgifte_n your_o answer_n be_v there_o very_o confuse_a and_o uncertain_a but_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o article_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o certain_a note_n which_o i_o have_v collect_v out_o of_o your_o book_n touch_v this_o matter_n in_o this_o my_o defence_n io._n whitgifte_n a_o exhortation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 6._o sect._n 6._o to_o be_v short_a the_o papist_n refuse_v to_o come_v to_o our_o church_n to_o communicate_v with_o we_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o these_o man_n will_v not_o have_v they_o by_o law_n and_o punishment_n compel_v thereunto_o t._n c._n pag._n 8._o sect._n ult._n i_o answer_v that_o doeg_n when_o he_o say_v that_o david_n come_v to_o abimilech_n say_v nothing_o but_o truth_n and_o when_o they_o 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that_o we_o have_v excus_fw-la have_v a_o prop_n excus_fw-la for_o they_o expound_v themselves_o in_o the_o addition_n unto_o the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o admonition_n io._n whitgifte_n in_o deed_n they_o have_v retract_v it_o in_o some_o point_n which_o argue_v they_o write_v their_o book_n at_o the_o first_o with_o small_a advice_n and_o less_o discretion_n it_o be_v no_o exposition_n but_o a_o retractation_n or_o recantation_n for_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o they_o quote_v and_o their_o very_a word_n declare_v that_o they_o mean_v the_o contrary_a and_o so_o do_v their_o practice_n in_o secret_a conventicle_n but_o now_o you_o come_v to_o my_o answer_n wherein_o you_o take_v what_o you_o listen_v and_o leave_v what_o you_o listen_v as_o you_o have_v hitherto_o do_v chap._n 2._o the._n 2._o division_n admonition_n the_o fouretenth_n then_o minister_n be_v not_o so_o tie_v to_o any_o form_n of_o prayer_n invent_v by_o man_n but_o as_o the_o spirit_n 2_o spirit_n rom._n 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find_v this_o canon_n let_v no_o man_n use_v the_o form_n of_o prayer_n which_o he_o have_v frame_v to_o himself_o without_o conference_n with_o brethren_n that_o be_v better_o learn_v whereby_o it_o may_v evident_o be_v gather_v that_o at_o that_o time_n there_o be_v a_o prescript_n form_n of_o prayer_n use_v and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o use_v any_o new_a form_n of_o private_a prayer_n except_o the_o same_o be_v allow_v by_o the_o brethren_n but_o for_o as_o much_o as_o in_o this_o point_n you_o consent_n with_o i_o and_o grant_v that_o there_o may_v be_v a_o prescript_n form_n of_o prayer_n i_o will_v omit_v whatsoever_o i_o have_v purpose_v to_o have_v say_v more_o in_o that_o matter_n and_o so_o i_o will_v do_v also_o your_o taunt_n respect_v the_o matter_n rather_o than_o lucian_n rhetoric_n chap._n 2._o the._n 4._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 78._o sect._n 2._o 3._o damasus_n be_v a_o good_a bishop_n &_o therefore_o no_o good_a thing_n by_o he_o appoint_v ▪_o damasus_n add_v glori_n patri_fw-la &c_n &c_n ▪_o to_o be_v disallow_v but_o he_o do_v not_o first_o ordain_v a_o prescript_n form_n of_o public_a prayer_n he_o only_o add_v something_o thereunto_o as_o gloria_fw-la patri_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o the_o end_n of_o every_o psalm_n and_o decree_v that_o psalm_n shall_v be_v sing_v aswell_o in_o the_o night_n time_n as_o in_o the_o day_n time_n in_o every_o church_n but_o they_o be_v song_n in_o the_o church_n before_o and_o as_o i_o have_v say_v there_o be_v a_o prescript_n form_n of_o prayer_n in_o justinus_n martyr_n time_n who_o be_v long_o before_o damasus_n gregory_n add_v the_o litany_n only_o i_o muse_v what_o you_o mean_v to_o litany_n gregory_n make_v the_o litany_n write_v so_o manifest_a untruth_n io._n whitgifte_n nothing_o answer_v to_o this_o chap._n 2._o the._n 5._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 79._o sect._n 1_o you_o note_v not_o here_o neither_o be_v you_o able_a any_o prayer_n in_o the_o whole_a communion_n book_n wherein_o there_o be_v any_o thing_n not_o agreeable_a to_o god_n word_n we_o may_v say_v as_o s._n augustine_n say_v in_o his_o 121._o epistle_n write_v ad_fw-la probam_fw-la viduam_fw-la etsi_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la praecationum_fw-la sanctarum_fw-la verba_fw-la discurras_fw-la quantum_fw-la existim_fw-la augustine_n augustine_n nihil_fw-la inuenies_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la ista_fw-la dominica_n contineat_fw-la &_o concludat_fw-la orati_fw-la vnde_fw-la liberum_fw-la est_fw-la alijs_fw-la atque_fw-la alijs_fw-la verbis_fw-la eadem_fw-la tamen_fw-la in_o orando_fw-la dicere_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la esse_fw-la liberum_fw-la alia_fw-la dicere_fw-la and_o if_o thou_o run_v through_o all_o the_o word_n of_o the_o holy_a prayer_n i_o suppose_v thou_o shall_v find_v nothing_o which_o the_o lord_n prayer_n do_v not_o contain_v and_o comprehend_v therefore_o we_o may_v in_o other_o word_n speak_v the_o same_o thing_n in_o our_o prayer_n but_o we_o may_v not_o speak_v contrary_a thing_n t._n c._n pag._n 106._o sect._n 1._o 2._o after_o he_o a_o irm_v that_o there_o can_v be_v nothing_o shéw_v in_o the_o whole_a book_n which_o be_v not_o agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o be_o very_o loath_a to_o enter_v into_o this_o field_n albeit_o m._n doctor_n do_v thus_o provoke_v i_o both_o because_o the_o papist_n will_v light_o take_v occasion_n of_o evil_a speak_n when_o they_o understande_v that_o we_o do_v not_o agree_v among_o ourselves_o in_o every_o point_n as_o for_o that_o some_o few_o professoure_n of_o the_o gospelt_n be_v private_a man_n bolden_v upon_o such_o treatise_n take_v such_o way_n sometime_o and_o break_v forth_o into_o such_o speech_n as_o be_v not_o meet_v nor_o convenient_a io._n whitgifte_n in_o so_o say_v i_o do_v full_o agree_v with_o such_o as_o have_v
our_o own_o unworthiness_n if_o a_o man_n be_v desirous_a to_o obtain_v any_o thing_n at_o his_o father_n or_o free_a des_fw-fr hand_n of_o who_o he_o have_v receyve_v many_o thing_n and_o not_o recompense_v the_o least_o be_v not_o this_o a_o meet_a kind_n of_o speech_n for_o he_o to_o use_v there_o be_v something_o necessary_a for_o i_o to_o have_v but_o i_o dare_v not_o ask_v it_o at_o your_o hand_n for_o my_o unworthynesse_n who_o have_v receyve_v so_o much_o already_o without_o any_o kind_n of_o recompen_a e_o sure_o this_o be_v both_o the_o next_o way_n for_o he_o to_o obtain_v that_o which_o he_o desire_v and_o a_o good_a tóken_fw-mi not_o of_o servile_a fear_n but_o of_o true_a humility_n and_o of_o that_o due_a reverence_n that_o a_o good_a child_n owe_v to_o a_o most_o natural_a and_o love_a father_n the_o publican_n dare_v not_o come_v nigh_o nor_o lift_v up_o his_o eye_n so_o do_v he_o acknowledge_v his_o unworthynesse_n such_o be_v his_o humility_n and_o yet_o you_o know_v 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and_o general_a government_n and_o outward_a policy_n of_o it_o it_o may_v be_v pure_a and_o unspotted_a which_o smell_v of_o a_o anabaptisticall_a fancy_n pag._n 50._o 3_o he_o affirm_v that_o many_o thing_n be_v both_o command_v and_o forbid_v of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o express_a mention_n in_o the_o word_n which_o be_v as_o necessary_o to_o be_v follow_v or_o avoid_v as_o those_o whereof_o express_a mention_n be_v make_v which_o sound_v to_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o very_a foundation_n of_o all_o papistry_n pag._n 77._o 4_z he_z holdeth_z that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o free_a will_n be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o salvation_n and_o yet_o be_v it_o a_o doctrine_n clean_o contrary_a to_o free_a justification_n by_o christ_n pag._n 82._o 5_z he_o say_v that_o all_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v needful_a for_o our_o salvation_n which_o be_v a_o notorious_a error_n pag._n 103._o 6_z he_o utter_o deny_v that_o any_o magistrate_n can_v fave_v the_o life_n of_o blasphemer_n contemptuous_a and_o stubborn_a i_o dolater_n
command_v they_o pag._n 186._o 10_o he_o say_v that_o those_o which_o write_v the_o century_n suspect_v the_o cannon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n which_o forbid_v the_o election_n of_o minister_n to_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o people_n and_o doubt_v whether_o it_o bea_fw-mi bastard_n or_o no_o which_o be_v untrue_a for_o the_o author_n of_o the_o centurye_n make_v no_o such_o doubt_n pag._n 188._o 11_z he_o say_v that_o hierome_n will_v that_o the_o people_n shall_v have_v power_n and_o authority_n to_o choose_v their_o clerk_n &_o their_o minister_n which_o be_v not_o so_o for_o hierom_n will_v no_o such_o thing_n pag._n 203._o 12_o he_o allege_v musculus_fw-la he_o word_n in_o stead_n of_o jeromes_n and_o that_o which_o only_a muscu_n say_v in_o his_o common_a place_n he_o ascribe_v to_o jerom_n in_o his_o epist_n to_o nepotian_n ead_n 13_o he_o say_v that_o nazian_a in_o a_o oration_n that_o he_o write_v at_o the_o death_n of_o his_o father_n confute_v those_o reason_n that_o seem_v to_o hinder_v the_o election_n of_o minister_n by_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o be_v there_o no_o such_o thing_n to_o be_v find_v in_o that_o oration_n pag._n 205._o 14_o he_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o the._n 6._o and._n 7._o book_n of_o eusebius_n for_o example_n of_o election_n of_o the_o people_n &_o clergy_n confirm_v by_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n namely_o in_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n and_o yet_o be_v there_o no_o such_o example_n in_o those_o book_n neither_o any_o mention_n of_o any_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n pag._n 207._o 15_o he_o father_v a_o manifest_a untruth_n upon_o eusebius_n lib._n 6._o touch_v origens_n admission_n into_o the_o ministry_n pag._n 209._o 16_o he_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n that_o open_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o council_n pag._n 222._o 17_o he_o again_o ascribe_v musculus_fw-la he_o word_n to_o jerome_n pag._n ead_n 18_o he_o deny_v that_o chrysostome_n make_v a_o 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that_o hierome_n and_o augustine_n speak_v of_o archdeacon_n in_o those_o place_n where_o they_o only_o speak_v of_o deacon_n pag._n 346._o 25_o the_o word_n of_o socrates_n be_v falsify_v pag._n 350._o 26_o he_o untrue_o report_v the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a pag._n 257._o 27_o he_o falsifi_v the_o meaning_n of_o tertullian_n allude_v that_o to_o ceremony_n that_o tertullian_n mean_v of_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o of_o salvation_n pag._n 370._o 28_o he_o keep_v back_o the_o word_n of_o theodoret_n that_o explain_v his_o meaning_n pag._n 412._o 29_o a_o untruth_n concern_v jereneus_n avouch_v out_o of_o the_o five_o book_n of_o eusebius_n cap._n 3._o &_o 4._o pag._n eadem_fw-la 30_o he_o pervert_v the_o word_n of_o the_o greek_a scholiast_n pag._n 413._o 31_o he_o avouch_v a_o untruth_n of_o theodoret._n pag._n 415._o 32_o he_o utter_v a_o very_a uncharitable_a untruth_n of_o the_o worthy_a man_n m._n jewel_n bishop_n of_o sarisburie_n pag_n 422._o 33_o he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o 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be_v untrue_a for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o cause_n allege_v there_o 443._o 37_o he_o allege_v the_o five_o canon_n concilij_fw-la tyronne_n for_o that_o that_o can_v be_v find_v in_o it_o pag_n 446._o 38_o he_o say_v that_o another_o council_n quote_v the_o council_n of_o africa_n decree_v that_o the_o christian_n shall_v not_o celebrate_v feast_n on_o the_o birth_n day_n of_o martyr_n because_o it_o be_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o heathen_a which_o be_v a_o manifest_a untruth_n for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o decree_n in_o that_o council_n 479._o 39_o he_o say_v that_o tertuliian_a will_v not_o have_v the_o christian_n to_o sit_v after_o they_o have_v pray_v because_o the_o idolater_n do_v so_o and_o he_o quote_v his_o book_n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la where_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n write_v page_z ead_a 40_o he_o father_v a_o untruth_n of_o augustine_n touch_v baptise_v by_o woman_n or_o in_o private_a house_n page_n 522._o 41_o he_o allege_v m._n beza_n in_o his_o annotation_n for_o that_o which_o can_v be_v find_v in_o they_o pag._n 584._o 42_o he_o say_v that_o if_o we_o will_v take_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n so_o straight_o as_o augustine_n do_v &_o that_o there_o be_v no_o sacrament_n but_o when_o as_o to_o the_o element_n there_o come_v the_o word_n the_o circumcision_n can_v be_v no_o sacramen_n which_o be_v a_o gross_a untruth_n for_o in_o circumcision_n there_o be_v both_o the_o word_n and_o the_o element_n page_n 〈◊〉_d 43_o he_o say_v that_o the_o eldership_n be_v most_o flourish_a in_o constantine_n time_n but_o he_o note_v 〈◊〉_d place_n where_o we_o may_v find_v his_o say_n to_o be_v true_a page_n 651._o 44_o he_o be_v great_o deceive_v about_o the_o excommunicate_v of_o apollinaris_n and_o show_v manifest_a token_n that_o either_o he_o have_v not_o himself_o read_v the_o story_n or_o that_o he_o have_v read_v it_o very_o negligent_o as_o it_o be_v plain_o declare_v in_o the_o defense_n page_n 669._o 45_o he_o falsifi_v ambrose_n 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answer_n to_o the_o epistle_n dedicate_v by_o t._n c._n too_o the_o church_n of_o england_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 1_o a_o epistle_n of_o the_o author_n too_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 17_o a_o exhortation_n to_o the_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a magistrate_n 31_o a_o answer_n to_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o admonition_n 57_o tractatus_fw-la 1._o whether_o christ_n forbid_v rule_v and_o superiority_n unto_o mi_a nister_n 61_o the_o true_a interpretation_n of_o the_o 20_o of_o matthew_n etc._n etc._n reges_fw-la gentium_fw-la etc._n etc._n cap._n 1._o 61_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o place_n math._n 23._o cap._n 2._o 71_o tract_n 2._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n in_o thing_n indifferent_a 76_o some_o thing_n may_v be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n touch_v order_n ceremonies_z discipline_n &_o kind_n of_o govern_v mean_v not_o express_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n chap._n 1._o 76_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o council_n of_o thing_n 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c._n use_v to_o prove_v the_o perpetual_a equity_n etc._n etc._n of_o election_n by_o the_o people_n chap._n 5._o 170_o the_o diversity_n betwixt_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o we_o require_v a_o diverse_a kind_n of_o government_n and_o of_o order_v of_o minister_n chap._n 6._o 174_o that_o bishop_n have_v authority_n to_o admit_v and_o ordain_v minister_n chap._n 7._o 194_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o the_o people_n shall_v have_v interest_n in_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n but_o the_o contrary_n be_v convenient_a chap._n 8._o 211_o tract_n 4._o of_o minister_n have_v no_o pastoral_a charge_n of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o order_v minister_n of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n 216_o of_o minister_n admit_v a_o place_n be_v not_o void_a chap._n 1_o 216_o of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o ordain_v â—i_n nister_n chap._n 2._o 225_o of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n chap._n 3._o 228_o tract_n 5._o of_o residence_n of_o the_o pastor_n chap._n 1._o 235_o of_o plurality_n 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husbandman_n good_a 7._o mat._n 13._o mat._n 22._o mat._n 7._o corn_n and_o for_o one_o that_o profitable_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n three_o do_v the_o contrary_a as_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o sower_n declare_v there_o be_v many_o call_v but_o few_o choose_v and_o the_o gate_n be_v wide_o that_o lead_v to_o perdition_n therefore_o it_o be_v no_o discredit_n to_o the_o gospel_n or_o to_o the_o preach_v thereof_o nor_o yet_o to_o the_o good_a government_n of_o the_o church_n to_o have_v many_o wicked_a and_o ungodly_a person_n which_o can_v possible_o be_v root_v out_o until_o the_o time_n of_o harness_a but_o this_o have_v be_v always_o a_o anabaptisticall_a cavil_n against_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o lawful_a government_n thereof_o as_o bullinger_n declare_v lib._n adversus_fw-la anabap._n bullinger_n bullinger_n and_o undoubted_o if_o this_o be_v a_o good_a argument_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o preach_v sincere_o than_o esai_n jeremie_n and_o 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i_o will_v let_v you_o alone_o in_o such_o toy_n and_o suffer_v you_o to_o play_v with_o yourself_o chap._n 1._o the._n 23._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 65._o sect._n 1_o but_o to_o come_v to_o this_o distinction_n i_o have_v think_v before_o this_o time_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v be_v the_o dream_n the_o sure_o the_o man_n be_v in_o a_o dream_n chief_a bvilder_n in_o set_v up_o the_o church_n now_o i_o perceive_v you_o make_v the_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n the_o chief_a bvilder_n and_o the_o apostle_n under_o carpenter_n or_o common_a mason_n to_o serve_v and_o to_o ▪_o 1._o cor._n 3_z ▪_o take_v the_o commandment_n of_o the_o archbishop_n and_o archdeacon_n and_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o ministery_n which_o s._n paul_n speak_v of_o be_v in_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n bind_v and_o lose_v only_o and_o that_o there_o be_v other_o which_o be_v beside_o these_o occupy_v in_o the_o order_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n of_o which_o number_n be_v 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ministery_n which_o be_v occupy_v in_o prayer_n the_o word_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n not_o of_o they_o which_o be_v institute_v for_o order_n and_o discipline_n such_o as_o be_v the_o function_n of_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n the_o which_o selfsame_o distinction_n for_o that_o place_n you_o use_v 5._o pag._n 64._o lin_v 5._o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o 64._o page_z of_o your_o bóoke_n these_o only_a word_n except_v qualia_fw-la sunt_fw-la archiepiscoporum_fw-la &_o archidiaconorum_fw-la as_o i_o have_v before_o show_v and_o your_o own_o word_n declare_v and_o i_o be_o sure_a these_o word_n do_v not_o make_v the_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n chief_a bvilder_n and_o the_o apostle_n under_o carpenter_n as_o it_o please_v you_o to_o collect_v but_o this_o be_v your_o modesty_n chap._n 1._o the._n 23._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 65._o sect._n 2._o and_o first_o of_o all_o i_o will_v glad_o ask_v they_o with_o what_o advice_n they_o havelaide_v on_o 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25._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 65._o sect._n 3_o then_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v too_o too_o unskilful_o do_v to_o separate_v order_n and_o discipline_n from_o then_o that_o have_v the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n in_o hand_n as_o though_o the_o church_n without_o archbishop_n and_o archdeacon_n ▪_o were_z aconfused_a heap_n and_o a_o disorder_a lump_n when_o as_o s._n paul_n teach_v it_o to_o be_v without_o they_o a_o body_n consist_v of_o all_o his_o part_n and_o member_n comely_a knit_v and_o join_v together_o wherein_o nothing_o want_v nor_o nothing_o be_v to_o much_o io._n whitgifte_n order_n and_o discipline_n be_v not_o separate_v from_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n although_o all_o such_o all_o authority_n to_o execute_v discipline_n be_v not_o equal_o give_v to_o all_o as_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n have_v not_o the_o like_a authority_n to_o execute_v they_o for_o as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o that_o latin_a book_n for_o order_n and_o policy_n sake_n more_o 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anabaptist_n catabaptiste_n and_o papist_n io._n whitgifte_n yet_o you_o shall_v here_o have_v excuse_v their_o ignorance_n in_o certain_a point_n and_o their_o absurd_a reason_n but_o see_v you_o be_v content_a so_o light_o to_o pass_v all_o this_o over_o and_o leave_v the_o defence_n of_o the_o admonition_n seek_v to_o confute_v my_o collection_n i_o be_o content_a also_o that_o it_o stand_v untouched_a and_o will_v answer_v that_o which_o you_o only_o seem_v to_o mislike_v i_o do_v not_o otherwise_o suspect_v they_o of_o arrianisme_n than_o they_o have_v give_v just_a occasion_n by_o dislike_a the_o public_a read_n of_o that_o creed_n which_o be_v purposely_o make_v to_o overthrow_n arrianisme_n i_o trust_v there_o be_v a_o great_a number_n of_o such_o as_o fear_n god_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o know_v not_o they_o but_o yet_o for_o their_o rashness_n in_o this_o point_n have_v they_o in_o some_o suspiition_n by_o these_o example_n of_o negative_a argument_n from_o 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minister_v the_o supper_n of_o our_o lord_n to_o any_o woman_n and_o yet_o these_o two_o be_v neither_o anabaptiste_n â–ª_o catabaptiste_n nor_o papist_n but_o valiant_a captain_n against_o they_o all_o chap._n 1._o the_o second_o division_n admonition_n the_o fourthe_n there_o be_v then_o accustom_v to_o be_v a_o examination_n of_o the_o communicantes_fw-la which_o now_o be_v neglect_v answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 96._o sect._n 2._o 3._o how_o prove_v you_o that_o there_o be_v then_o any_o examination_n of_o communicantes_fw-la communicantes_fw-la examination_n of_o communicantes_fw-la if_o there_o have_v be_v either_o commandment_n or_o example_n for_o it_o in_o scripture_n i_o be_o sure_a you_o will_v not_o have_v leave_v it_o unquote_v in_o the_o margin_n saint_n paul_n say_v 1._o cor._n 11._o probet_fw-la 11._o 1._o cor._n 11._o bomo_fw-la seipsum_fw-la let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o etc._n etc._n but_o he_o speak_v of_o no_o other_o examination_n wherefore_o 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examine_v other_o therefore_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v no_o such_o examination_n this_o be_v your_o usual_a manner_n of_o reason_v but_o it_o be_v chyldish_a unless_o it_o be_v to_o conclude_v damnation_n or_o salvation_n t._n c._n pag._n 130._o sect._n 2._o m._n doctor_n ask_v how_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v any_o examination_n of_o the_o communicantes_fw-la after_o this_o sort_n all_o thing_n necessary_a be_v usee_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n but_o examination_n of_o those_o who_o knowledge_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o know_v or_o doubt_v of_o be_v a_o necessary_a thing_n therefore_o it_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o deny_v your_o minor_a first_o because_o no_o such_o at_o that_o time_n will_v offer_v themselves_o to_o receyve_v the_o communion_n second_o because_o if_o any_o such_o do_v offer_v themselves_o not_o be_v know_v the_o fault_n be_v particular_a to_o themselves_o and_o touch_v they_o only_o not_o the_o whole_a church_n three_o because_o if_o it_o have_v be_v so_o necessary_a a_o thing_n saint_n paul_n will_v not_o have_v omit_v it_o especial_o when_o he_o have_v a_o especial_a cause_n to_o speak_v of_o it_o as_o he_o have_v when_o he_o speak_v of_o private_a examination_n of_o a_o man_n self_n 1._o cor._n 11._o probet_fw-la autem_fw-la seipsum_fw-la home_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o which_o word_n m._n caluin_n speak_v in_o caluin_n cor._n 11._o caluin_n his_o book_n against_o the_o anabaptist_n say_v thus_o but_o what_o need_v we_o so_o to_o dispute_v see_v the_o apostle_n himself_o in_o a_o other_o place_n treat_v of_o the_o manner_n how_o every_o man_n shall_v be_v prepare_v to_o the_o receyn_v of_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n as_o it_o behove_v he_o do_v not_o bid_v every_o one_o too_o examine_v the_o fault_n of_o his_o neighbour_n but_o speak_v after_o this_o manner_n probet_fw-la seipsum_fw-la bomo_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o and_o so_o let_v he_o eat_v of_o this_o bread_n and_o drink_n of_o this_o cup_n for_o he_o that_o cate_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o eat_v and_o drink_v his_o own_o damnation_n in_o which_o word_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n to_o be_v observe_v first_o that_o to_o communicate_v with_o those_o that_o be_v unworthy_a be_v not_o to_o eat_v the_o bread_n of_o the_o lord_n unworthy_o communicate_v two_o thing_n worthy_a the_o note_n for_o those_o which_o shall_v communicate_v but_o not_o to_o prepare_v himself_o as_o he_o ought_v to_o do_v and_o not_o to_o expend_v and_o consider_v his_o own_o faith_n and_o repentance_n the_o second_o that_o when_o the_o supper_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v we_o begin_v not_o with_o other_o man_n to_o examine_v they_o but_o that_o we_o try_v ourselves_o and_o sure_o if_o all_o thing_n be_v exact_o consider_v even_o they_o which_o have_v so_o much_o leisure_n to_o inquire_v
increase_v but_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o the_o substantia_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la and_o therefore_o not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o the_o supper_n be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v m._n bucer_n likewise_o in_o his_o censure_n upon_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n his_o word_n be_v these_o the_o third_o chapter_n opinion_n m._n bucers_n opinion_n be_v of_o the_o substance_n form_n and_o break_v of_o bread_n which_o all_o do_v well_o enough_o agree_v with_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n who_o it_o be_v manifest_a to_o have_v use_v unleven_v bread_n and_o easy_a to_o be_v break_v for_o he_o break_v it_o and_o give_v to_o his_o disciple_n piece_n of_o the_o bread_n break_v touch_v the_o form_n and_o figure_n whether_o it_o be_v round_o or_o square_n there_o be_v nothing_o declare_v of_o the_o evangelist_n and_o because_o this_o bread_n be_v use_v only_o for_o a_o sign_n and_o not_o for_o corporal_a nourishement_fw-mi i_o see_v not_o what_o 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the_o bread_n not_o in_o the_o other_o quality_n nor_o in_o the_o substance_n and_o therefore_o not_o perteyn_a to_o any_o thing_n that_o i_o have_v speak_v for_o the_o question_n be_v of_o leaven_a or_o unleavened_a bread_n not_o of_o roundness_n or_o squarenesse_n etc._n etc._n although_o the_o form_n and_o figure_n also_o be_v indifferente_a and_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o appoint_v wherefore_o there_o may_v no_o schism_n or_o division_n in_o the_o church_n be_v make_v for_o it_o m._n bucers_n censure_n be_v upon_o the_o first_o book_n in_o king_n edward_n time_n not_o upon_o day_n bucers_n censure_n upon_o the_o first_o book_n 〈◊〉_d king_n edward_n day_n the_o second_o therefore_o you_o be_v deceive_v the_o church_n have_v authority_n in_o thing_n indifferent_a to_o abolish_v or_o revoke_v as_o occasion_n serve_v and_o therefore_o that_o circumstance_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o note_n chap._n 1._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n 1_o beside_o that_o we_o be_v call_v by_o the_o example_n of_o our_o sa_fw-fr ionce_n christ_n to_o use_v the_o supper_n usual_a and_o common_a bread_n for_o what_o time_n our_o savioure_n christ_n celebrate_v his_o supper_n there_o be_v no_o other_o bread_n to_o be_v get_v but_o unleavened_a bread_n there_o be_v astraight_o charge_v give_v by_o the_o law_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v then_o not_o leaven_a bread_n and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o that_o if_o there_o have_v in_o then_o when_o he_o celebrate_v his_o supper_n as_o at_o other_o time_n nothing_o but_o leaven_a bread_n he_o will_v not_o have_v cause_v unleavened_a bread_n to_o have_v be_v make_v for_o that_o purpose_n of_o celebrate_v his_o supper_n io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v not_o usual_a bread_n but_o proper_o appoint_v for_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o passover_n bread_n christ_n use_v unleven_v bread_n and_o then_o to_o be_v use_v and_o not_o otherwise_o usual_o and_o common_o for_o their_o usual_a and_o common_a bread_n be_v leaven_a wherefore_o this_o make_v against_o you_o and_o if_o you_o will_v have_v the_o commandment_n that_o appertethe_v to_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o passover_n perpetual_a 2_o pa._n 130._o sect._n 2_o and_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o by_o that_o precept_n 2._o chro._n 35._o before_o allege_v it_o seem_v you_o will_v then_o must_v we_o make_v it_o a_o matter_n of_o necessity_n to_o have_v unleavened_a bread_n but_o as_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d so_o be_v this_o also_o for_o the_o kind_n of_o bread_n be_v indifferent_a although_o as_o m._n bucer_n say_v it_o come_v near_a to_o the_o institution_n indifferent_a the_o kind_n of_o bread_n of_o itself_o indifferent_a of_o christ_n to_o use_v unle_fw-mi vened_a bread_n b_o cause_n he_o do_v celebrate_v his_o supper_n with_o it_o if_o there_o be_v not_o other_o circumstance_n and_o reason_n to_o move_v the_o church_n sometime_o to_o use_v the_o contrary_n chap._n 1._o the._n 8._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n but_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a oversight_n of_o m._n doctor_n both_o 〈◊〉_d this_o section_n and_o that_o which_o go_v 〈◊〉_d fore_n that_o he_o have_v not_o learned_a to_o make_v a_o difference_n between_o that_o which_o be_v not_o ncere_o do_v &_o that_o which_o be_v not_o at_o all_o do_v for_o in_o the_o former_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d upon_o the_o admonition_n because_o they_o conclude_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o there_o be_v no_o examination_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d and_o sincere_o minister_v for_o say_v he_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o communicantes_fw-la be_v not_o of_o the_o jubstaunce_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o in_o this_o section_n he_o say_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n whether_o there_o be_v leaven_a or_o unleavened_a bread_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_o prove_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v but_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v understand_v that_o if_o either_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o bread_n and_o wine_n or_o the_o form_n of_o it_o which_o be_v the_o institution_n which_o thing_n be_v only_o substantial_a part_n be_v want_v that_o then_o there_o shall_v have_v be_v no_o sacrament_n minister_v at_o all_o but_o they_o be_v retain_v and_o yet_o other_o thing_n use_v which_o be_v not_o convenient_a the_o sacrament_n be_v minister_v but_o not_o sincere_o for_o example_n in_o the_o popish_a baptism_n there_o be_v the_o substance_n of_o baptism_n but_o there_o be_v use_v spittle_n and_o cream_n and_o candle_n and_o such_o beggarly_a trumpery_n it_o be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v therefore_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o minister_v sincere_o and_o another_o thing_n to_o minister_v so_o that_o that_o which_o be_v of_o
the_o substance_n shall_v be_v want_v but_o of_o this_o distinction_n i_o have_v speak_v in_o another_o place_n whereinto_o although_o m._n doctor_n fall_v in_o the_o next_o section_n and_o in_o other_o place_n yet_o this_o shall_v be_v a_o answer_n for_o all_o io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v as_o gross_o reply_v unto_o but_o my_o belief_n be_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v as_o pure_o and_o sincere_o minister_v with_o the_o one_o as_o it_o be_v with_o the_o other_o for_o not_o every_o fond_a superstitious_a or_o vain_a opinion_n of_o every_o private_a person_n in_o this_o or_o that_o ceremony_n â—erogateth_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o pure_a and_o sincere_a administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n except_o it_o can_v be_v show_v that_o the_o thing_n use_v be_v wicked_a unlawful_a or_o superstitious_a of_o themselves_o wherefore_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a quarrel_n of_o you_o it_o be_v no_o oversighte_n of_o i_o for_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v of_o the_o right_n and_o sincere_a administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o this_o church_n both_o touch_v substance_n ceremony_n and_o other_o circumstance_n and_o it_o be_v too_o much_o injury_n that_o you_o do_v to_o this_o church_n of_o england_n in_o compare_v the_o ceremeny_n thereof_o which_o he_o pure_a to_o the_o corrupt_a and_o superstitious_a ceremony_n of_o the_o papist_n use_v in_o baptism_n but_o how_o shall_v you_o otherwise_o utter_v your_o contempt_n or_o great_a spite_n against_o it_o chap._n 1._o the._n 9_o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 99_o sect._n 1_o these_o word_n that_o you_o use_v like_o their_o god_n of_o the_o altar_n be_v slanderous_a and_o false_a we_o be_v as_o far_o from_o think_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v our_o god_n as_o you_o and_o teach_v as_o sound_v doctrine_n touch_v this_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o you_o show_v of_o what_o spirit_n you_o be_v t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n 2._o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o admonition_n in_o say_v their_o god_n of_o the_o altar_n be_v plain_a enough_o that_o it_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o papist_n but_o that_o m._n doctor_n do_v set_v himself_o to_o draw_v the_o author_n of_o it_o into_o hatred_n and_o he_o can_v be_v ignorant_a that_o when_o a_o man_n speak_v of_o thing_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d know_v he_o often_o use_v the_o or_o that_o or_z their_z without_o name_v the_o thing_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o io._n whitgifte_n the_o word_n of_o the_o admonition_n be_v these_o then_o they_o minister_v with_o common_a and_o usual_a bread_n now_o with_o wafer_n cake_n bring_v in_o by_o pope_n alexander_n be_v in_o form_n fashion_n and_o substance_n like_o their_o god_n of_o the_o altar_n now_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v whether_o i_o charge_v they_o 〈◊〉_d or_o no._n your_o excuse_n be_v but_o for_o a_o fashion_n their_o opinion_n of_o this_o whole_a church_n be_v as_o peevish_o and_o opprobrious_o utter_v in_o sundry_a other_o place_n of_o their_o book_n as_o it_o be_v in_o this_o and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o great_a doubt_n of_o their_o meaning_n or_o if_o their_o meaning_n be_v not_o so_o yet_o be_v it_o unaduised_o set_v down_o in_o that_o order_n that_o i_o may_v just_o suspect_v their_o meaning_n to_o be_v so_o chp._n 1._o the._n 10._o division_n admonition_n the_o six_o they_o receive_v it_o 28_o it_o mat._n 26._o 20_o mar._n 14._o 18_o luk._n 22._o 14_o john_n 13._o 28_o sit_v we_o kneel_v according_o to_o honorius_n decree_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 99_o sect._n 1._o 2._o 3._o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n that_o you_o quote_v in_o the_o margente_a to_o prove_v sit_v at_o the_o communion_n declare_v that_o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n sit_v communion_n kneel_v and_o sit_v at_o the_o communion_n at_o the_o table_n but_o that_o prove_v nothing_o for_o you_o may_v as_o well_o have_v say_v they_o receive_v after_o supper_n we_o before_o dinner_n they_o at_o night_n we_o in_o the_o morning_n they_o after_o meat_n we_o before_o meat_n they_o in_o a_o private_a house_n we_o in_o the_o open_a church_n they_o be_v all_o man_n and_o in_o number_n twelve_o we_o together_o with_o woman_n not_o strict_o observe_v the_o number_n of_o twelve_o or_o any_o other_o number_n above_o three_o or_o four_o this_o your_o argument_n touch_v they_o as_o well_o as_o it_o do_v we_o which_o receive_v it_o stand_v or_o walk_v but_o to_o sit_v stand_v kneel_v or_o walk_v be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o no_o impediment_n why_o it_o may_v not_o be_v sincere_o minister_v it_o be_v hove_v humble_a and_o meek_a spirit_n in_o such_o indifferent_a matter_n to_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n appoint_v by_o lawful_a authority_n and_o not_o to_o make_v schism_n and_o contention_n in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o satisfy_n of_o their_o own_o fantasy_n io._n whitgifte_n nothing_o answer_v chap._n 1._o the._n ii_o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 99_o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 100_o sect._n 1_o gesture_n kneel_v the_o meet_a gesture_n touch_v kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n it_o force_v not_o who_o do_v first_o appoint_v it_o although_o i_o can_v find_v no_o such_o decree_n make_v by_o honorius_n it_o be_v the_o meet_a manner_n of_o receive_v this_o sacrament_n in_o my_o opinion_n be_v common_o use_v in_o pray_v and_o give_v of_o thanks_n both_o which_o be_v annex_v to_o this_o sacrament_n and_o be_v to_o be_v require_v in_o the_o communicant_n and_o therefore_o i_o think_v this_o to_o be_v a_o good_a reason_n the_o meet_a est_fw-fr gesture_n for_o pray_v and_o thanksgiving_n be_v kneel_v but_o those_o that_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n pray_v and_o give_v thank_n ergo_fw-la the_o meet_a gesture_n for_o they_o be_v kneel_v the_o only_a peril_n be_v adoration_n which_o may_v as_o well_o be_v commit_v sit_v or_o stand_v but_o wherefore_o then_o serve_v preach_v there_o be_v as_o much_o danger_n of_o contempt_n the_o one_o way_n as_o there_o be_v of_o adoration_n the_o other_o way_n in_o such_o matter_n christian_a magistrate_n have_v authority_n to_o appoint_v what_o they_o think_v most_o convenient_a and_o the_o same_o must_v be_v observe_v of_o those_o that_o be_v pacifici_fw-la and_o not_o contentiosi_fw-la but_o of_o sit_v and_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n more_o be_v to_o be_v speak_v hereafter_o in_o the_o second_o part_n t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n 3_o although_o it_o be_v not_o of_o necessity_n that_o we_o shall_v receive_v the_o communion_n sit_v yet_o there_o be_v the_o same_o cause_n of_o abolish_n kneel_a that_o there_o be_v of_o remove_v the_o wafer_n cake_n and_o if_o there_o be_v danger_n of_o superstition_n in_o one_o as_o m._n doctor_n confess_v why_o be_v there_o not_o danger_n in_o the_o other_o and_o if_o there_o be_v man_n that_o take_v occasion_n to_o fall_v at_o the_o one_o &_o that_o by_o superstition_n how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o m._n doctor_n in_o the._n 180._o pag._n say_v y_z e_z neither_o gospeller_n nor_o papist_n obstinate_a nor_o simple_a can_v superstitios_o offend_v in_o this_o kneel_v when_o as_o the_o kneel_a carry_v a_o great_a show_n of_o worship_n &_o imprint_v in_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o ignorant_a a_o strong_a opinion_n and_o a_o deep_a print_n of_o adoration_n than_o the_o sight_n of_o a_o round_a cake_n and_o if_o kneel_v be_v so_o void_a of_o all_o fault_n as_o m._n doctor_n will_v make_v we_o believe_v how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o in_o king_n edward_n day_n there_o be_v a_o protestation_n add_v in_o the_o book_n of_o prayer_n to_o clear_v that_o gesture_n from_o adoration_n io._n whitgifte_n if_o this_o be_v a_o sufficient_a argument_n to_o alter_v &_o change_v so_o decent_a &_o comely_a a_o order_n and_o gesture_n in_o praise_v god_n then_o what_o order_n can_v stand_v in_o the_o church_n see_v there_o be_v nothing_o that_o may_v not_o be_v abuse_v my_o word_n in_o the._n 180._o pag._n be_v true_a and_o as_o yet_o unanswered_a i_o will_v set_v they_o down_o in_o their_o place_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v perceyve_v how_o little_a you_o be_v able_a to_o say_v against_o they_o the_o protestation_n make_v in_o king_n edward_n day_n touch_v this_o gesture_n be_v to_o satissye_a if_o it_o may_v be_v such_o quareller_n as_o you_o be_v and_o to_o take_v away_o all_o occasion_n of_o cavil_v not_o for_o any_o great_a sear_n of_o adoration_n chap._n 1._o the._n 12._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n ult._n another_o reason_n why_o kneel_v shall_v be_v take_v away_o be_v for_o that_o sit_v agree_v better_a with_o the_o action_n of_o the_o supper_n whereunto_o m._n doctor_n take_v exception_n both_o in_o this_o place_n and_o where_o he_o speak_v again_o of_o it_o that_o forsomuch_o as_o this_o sacrament_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o
purity_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 105._o sect._n ult._n etc._n etc._n interrogatory_n to_o be_v minister_v to_o the_o infant_n be_v not_o strange_a areopag_n interrogatories_n minister_v to_o infant_n dionysius_n areopag_n neither_o late_o invent_v but_o of_o great_a antiquity_n for_o dionysius_n areopagita_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v de_n cael_a hierar_fw-it and_o seven_o chapter_n speak_v of_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n and_o of_o their_o surety_n or_o godfather_n and_o answer_v to_o certain_a profane_a derider_n as_o he_o term_v they_o which_o say_v that_o one_o be_v baptize_v for_o a_o other_o because_o the_o godfather_n do_v promise_n and_o answer_v for_o the_o child_n speak_v thus_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o godfather_n neque_fw-la enim_fw-la hoc_fw-la ille_fw-la ai_fw-fr ego_fw-la pro_fw-la pvero_fw-la abrenunciationes_fw-la facere_fw-la aut_fw-la fidei_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la prositeor_fw-la sed_fw-la ita_fw-la pver_fw-la renunciat_fw-la &_o profitetur_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la spondeo_fw-la pverum_fw-la inducturum_fw-la cum_fw-la ad_fw-la sacram_fw-la intelligentiam_fw-la venerit_fw-la sedulis_fw-la adhortationibus_fw-la meis_fw-la ut_fw-la abrenuntiet_n contrarijs_fw-la omnino_fw-la profiteaturque_fw-la &_o peragat_fw-la divina_fw-la quae_fw-la pollicetur_fw-la neither_o do_v he_o say_v this_o i_o renounce_v for_o the_o child_n or_o profess_v the_o sacrament_n of_o faith_n but_o in_o this_o sort_n the_o child_n do_v renounce_v or_o profess_v that_o be_v to_o say_v i_o promise_v so_o to_o instruct_v the_o child_n when_o he_o come_v to_o the_o year_n of_o discretion_n with_o daily_a exhortation_n that_o he_o shall_v renounce_v all_o contrary_a thing_n and_o profess_v and_o perform_v those_o heavenly_a thing_n which_o he_o do_v promise_n t._n c._n pag._n 133._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 134._o sect._n 1_o there_o follow_v the_o interrogatory_n or_o demand_n minister_v unto_o the_o infant_n in_o baptism_n for_o the_o proof_n whereof_o be_v bring_v in_o the_o first_o place_n dionysius_n areopagita_n a_o worthy_a cover_n for_o such_o a_o cup._n for_o to_o let_v pass_v that_o m._n doctor_n allege_v the_o celestial_a hierarchy_n in_o stead_n that_o he_o shall_v have_v cite_v the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n this_o testimony_n be_v find_v in_o the_o one_o and_o in_o the_o other_o dare_v m_n doctor_n be_v so_o bold_a as_o to_o delude_v the_o world_n in_o so_o great_a light_n with_o such_o baby_n as_o this_o do_v he_o think_v that_o the_o author_n of_o these_o book_n of_o hierarchy_n be_v so_o full_a of_o subtle_a speculation_n vain_a and_o idle_a fantasy_n wicked_a blasphemy_n make_v one_o order_n of_o pope_n a_o other_o of_o prelate_n the_o three_o of_o sacrify_a s_o and_o then_o of_o monk_n some_o of_o which_o order_n come_v not_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o that_o time_n wherein_o device_n the_o areopagite_n live_v which_o mention_v many_o foolish_a ceremony_n and_o corruption_n 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pinch_n at_o any_o church_n that_o use_v it_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o so_o that_o they_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n who_o may_v if_o he_o will_v depart_v from_o his_o right_n &_o abridge_v himself_o of_o the_o authority_n commit_v unto_o he_o by_o god_n but_o he_o need_v not_o so_o do_v except_o he_o listen_v and_o whether_o it_o be_v well_o do_v or_o no_o i_o will_v not_o determine_v this_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v of_o that_o in_o a_o monarchy_n &_o in_o a_o kingdom_n such_o as_o this_o realm_n of_o england_n be_v it_o can_v not_o be_v practise_v without_o untollerable_a contention_n &_o extreme_a confusion_n except_o you_o can_v devise_v to_o make_v every_o several_a parish_n a_o kingdom_n within_o itself_o and_o exempt_v it_o from_o all_o ecclestastical_a &_o civil_a jurisdiction_n of_o prince_n prelate_n &_o whosoever_o which_o undoubted_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v your_o seek_v as_o will_v appear_v hereafter_o chap._n 2._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 139._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 140._o sect._n 1_o and_o to_o the_o end_n that_o the_o vanity_n of_o this_o distinction_n which_o be_v that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v senior_n or_o ancient_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n &_o not_o of_o peace_n under_o tyrant_n &_o not_o under_o christian_n magistrate_n may_v appear_v the_o cause_n why_o these_o senior_n or_o ancient_n be_v appoint_v in_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v consider_v which_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v to_o be_v for_o that_o the_o pastor_n not_o be_v able_a to_o oversee_v all_o himself_o &_o to_o have_v his_o eye_n in_o every_o corner_n of_o the_o church_n &_o place_n where_o y_o e_o churches_n abode_n may_v be_v help_v of_o the_o ancient_n wherein_o the_o wonderful_a love_n of_o god_n towards_o his_o church_n do_v manifest_o appear_v that_o for_o the_o great_a assurance_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o he_o do_v not_o content_v himself_o to_o appoint_v one_o only_a ourseer_n of_o every_o church_n but_o many_o over_o every_o church_n and_o therefore_o see_v that_o the_o pastor_n be_v now_o in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o under_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n not_o able_a to_o oversee_v all_o himself_o nor_o his_o eye_n can_v not_o be_v in_o every_o place_n of_o the_o parish_n present_a to_o behold_v the_o behaviour_n of_o the_o people_n it_o follow_v that_o as_o well_o now_o as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n as_o well_o under_o a_o christian_n prince_n as_o under_o a_o tyrant_n the_o office_n of_o a_o ancient_a or_o senior_n be_v require_v onlesse_a you_o will_v say_v that_o god_n have_v less_o care_n of_o his_o church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o under_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n than_o he_o have_v in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n and_o under_o a_o tyrant_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o say_v there_o may_v be_v senior_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o there_o be_v no_o christian_n magistrate_n not_o that_o there_o aught_o of_o necessity_n to_o be_v god_n have_v provide_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o other_o gonernour_n to_o punish_v and_o to_o correct_v vice_n and_o other_o disorder_n in_o the_o church_n who_o have_v his_o officer_n and_o deputy_n in_o every_o place_n for_o that_o purpose_n neither_o may_v the_o pastor_n or_o any_o other_o to_o who_o that_o charge_n be_v not_o commit_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n usurp_v that_o office_n unto_o themselves_o wherefore_o that_o cause_n by_o you_o allege_v be_v no_o cause_n at_o all_o why_o there_o shall_v be_v any_o such_o senior_n where_o there_o be_v christian_n magistrate_n neither_o be_v that_o kind_n of_o government_n any_o part_n of_o the_o pastor_n charge_n the_o pastor_n if_o he_o be_v a_o meet_a man_n be_v able_a to_o o_o all_o that_o that_o be_v require_v of_o a_o pastor_n else_o may_v it_o be_v say_v which_o you_o before_o deny_v that_o god_n appoint_v office_n &_o function_n and_o give_v not_o sufficient_a gift_n to_o execute_v &_o do_v they_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v say_v that_o god_n have_v esse_fw-la care_n of_o his_o church_n when_o he_o place_v civil_a and_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o the_o stead_n of_o senior_n than_o when_o he_o place_v senior_n and_o leave_v it_o destitute_a of_o christian_a mastrate_n for_o one_o of_o the_o most_o ingular_a benefit_n that_o god_n bestow_v on_o his_o church_n in_o this_o world_n be_v that_o he_o give_v unto_o it_o christian_n king_n &_o prince_n from_o who_o office_n and_o authority_n whosoever_o do_v detract_v and_o withdraw_v we_o any_o thing_n iniuri_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o show_v himself_o unthankful_a for_o so_o great_a a_o benefit_n chap._n 2._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 140._o sect._n 1_o in_o deed_n if_o so_o be_v the_o auncientes_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n &_o under_o a_o tyrant_n have_v meddle_v with_o any_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n or_o have_v supply_v the_o room_n of_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n in_o handle_v of_o any_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o belong_v unto_o he_o than_o there_o have_v be_v some_o cause_n why_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n be_v i_o the_o church_n the_o office_n of_o the_o senior_n or_o at_o the_o least_o so_o much_o as_o he_o exercise_v of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n shall_v have_v cease_v but_o when_o as_o the_o ancient_a neither_o do_v nor_o by_o any_o manner_n may_v meddle_v with_o those_o thing_n which_o belong_v unto_o a_o magistrate_n no_o more_o under_o a_o tyrant_n than_o under_o a_o godly_a magistrate_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o magistrate_n enter_v into_o the_o church_n the_o elder_a shall_v be_v therefore_o thrust_v out_o scripture_n out_o where_o find_v you_o this_o in_o all_o the_o scripture_n for_o the_o elder_n office_n be_v to_o admonish_v several_o those_o that_o do_v amiss_o to_o comfort_v those_o which_o he_o see_v weak_a and_o shake_a and_o to_o have_v need_n of_o comfort_n to_o assist_v the_o pastor_n in_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n of_o reprehension_n sharp_a or_o mild_a as_o the_o fault_n require_v also_o to_o assist_v in_o the_o suspention_n from_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n until_o some_o trial_n be_v have_v of_o the_o repentance_n of_o that_o party_n which_o have_v confess_v himself_o to_o have_v offend_v or_o else_o if_o he_o remain_v stubborn_a to_o assist_v he_o in_o the_o excommunication_n these_o be_v those_o thing_n which_o the_o elder_a do_v which_o for_o so_o much_o as_o they_o may_v do_v as_o well_o under_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n as_o under_o a_o tyrant_n as_o well_o in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n it_o follow_v that_o as_o touch_v the_o office_n of_o elder_n there_o be_v no_o distinction_n in_o the_o time_n of_o peace_n and_o persecution_n of_o a_o christian_n prince_n and_o of_o a_o tyrant_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o will_v glad_o know_v by_o what_o place_n of_o scripture_n you_o can_v i_o stifie_v this_o office_n that_o you_o matter_n the_o office_n ascri_fw-la ed_z to_z senior_n 〈◊〉_d the_o gistrate_n o_o his_o authoriti_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n here_o appoint_v unto_o senior_n in_o so_o weighty_a a_o matter_n in_o my_o judgement_n you_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v use_v some_o authority_n of_o scripture_n or_o other_o ancient_a writer_n the_o admonition_n say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o senior_n be_v to_o govern_v the_o church_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n to_o consult_v to_o admo_fw-la sh_n to_o correct_v &_o to_o order_v all_o thing_n appertain_a to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o congregation_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a i_o pray_v you_o what_o authority_n remain_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a and_o church_n matter_n in_o d_o ede_fw-mi if_o you_o make_v such_o a_o distinction_n betwixt_o the_o church_n &_o
the_o common_a wealth_n the_o ci_fw-fr ill_a magistrate_n &_o the_o ecclesiastical_a as_o you_o do_v throughout_o your_o whole_a book_n it_o be_v not_o mar_v ell_n though_o you_o think_v turk_n no_o more_o authoriti_n 〈◊〉_d ed_z to_o a_o i_fw-mi istian_a magistrate_n tha_z t_o the_o turk_n the_o office_n of_o senior_n to_o be_v perpetual_a for_o you_o give_v no_o more_o authority_n to_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a government_n than_o you_o will_v do_v to_o the_o turk_n if_o you_o be_v under_o he_o and_o therefore_o according_a to_o your_o platform_n the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v all_o one_o under_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n and_o under_o the_o great_a turk_n but_o to_o l_o have_v the_o admonition_n what_o have_v you_o speak_v of_o the_o office_n of_o senior_n which_o be_v not_o either_o proper_a to_o the_o pastor_n or_o common_a to_o all_o christian_n or_o such_o as_o may_v be_v much_o better_o bring_v to_o pass_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n than_o by_o the_o ignorance_n simplicity_n and_o rudeness_n of_o the_o most_o of_o your_o senior_n but_o first_o let_v we_o hear_v more_o of_o your_o 〈◊〉_d before_o we_o come_v to_o utter_v the_o absurdity_n of_o your_o cause_n chap._n 2._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 140._o in_o the_o midst_n but_o i_o will_v yet_o come_v near_o that_o without_o the_o which_o the_o principal_a office_n of_o charity_n can_v be_v exercise_v be_v necessary_a and_o always_o to_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o church_n but_o the_o office_n of_o ancient_n &_o elder_n be_v such_o as_o without_o which_o the_o principal_a office_n of_o charity_n can_v not_o be_v exercise_v therefore_o it_o follow_v that_o this_o office_n be_v necessary_a that_o the_o principal_a office_n of_o charity_n can_v be_v exercise_v without_o this_o order_n of_o ancient_n it_o may_v appear_v for_o that_o he_o which_o have_v fault_v and_o amend_v not_o after_o he_o be_v admonish_v once_o pri_fw-la ate_o and_o then_o before_o one_o witness_n or_o two_o can_v further_o be_v proceed_v against_o 18._o math._n 18._o according_a to_o the_o commandment_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n onlesse_a there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n ancient_n d_o elder_n therefore_o this_o principal_a office_n of_o charity_n which_o tend_v to_o the_o amendment_n of_o he_o which_o have_v not_o profit_v by_o those_o two_o former_a admonition_n can_v not_o be_v exercise_v without_o they_o for_o it_o be_v command_v of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n that_o in_o such_o a_o case_n when_o a_o brother_n do_v not_o profit_n by_o these_o two_o warning_n it_o shall_v be_v tell_v the_o church_n now_o i_o will_v ask_v who_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o church_n here_o if_o he_o say_v by_o the_o church_n be_v mean_v all_o y_fw-mi e_z people_n than_o i_o will_v ask_v how_o a_o man_n can_v convenient_o complayn_v to_o all_o the_o whole_a congregation_n or_o how_o can_v the_o whole_a congregation_n convenient_o meet_v to_o decide_v of_o this_o matter_n i_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o the_o people_n have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o excommunication_n as_o shall_v be_v note_v hereafter_o but_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o so_o far_o come_v for_o he_o must_v first_o refuse_v to_o obey_v the_o admonition_n of_o the_o church_n or_o ever_o they_o can_v proceed_v so_o far_o well_o if_o it_o be_v not_o the_o people_n that_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o church_n who_o be_v it_o i_o hear_v m._n doctor_n say_v it_o be_v the_o pastor_n but_o if_o he_o will_v say_v so_o &_o speak_v so_o strange_o he_o must_v warrant_v it_o with_o some_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n where_o the_o church_n be_v take_v for_o one_o which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o one_o man_n be_v many_o one_o member_n be_v a_o body_n one_o alone_o be_v a_o company_n and_o beside_o this_o strangeness_n of_o speech_n it_o be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o the_o meaning_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o destroy_v the_o soveraintie_n of_o the_o medicine_n which_o our_o saviour_n christ_n prepare_v for_o such_o a_o fester_a sore_n as_o will_v neither_o be_v heal_v with_o priu_fw-fr te_fw-la admonition_n neither_o w_n to_o admonition_n before_o one_o or_o two_o witness_n for_o as_o y_z e_z fault_n grow_v so_o our_o saviour_n christ_n will_v have_v the_o number_n of_o those_o before_o who_o he_o shall_v be_v check_v &_o rebuke_v likewise_o grow_v therefore_o from_o a_o private_a admonition_n he_o rise_v unto_o the_o admonitian_n before_o two_o or_o three_o &_o from_o they_o to_o the_o church_n which_o if_o we_o shall_v say_v it_o be_v but_o one_o then_o to_o a_o dangerous_a wound_n shall_v be_v lay_v a_o easy_a plaster_n &_o therefore_o our_o saviour_n do_v not_o rise_v from_o two_o to_o one_o for_o that_o be_v not_o to_o rise_v but_o to_o fall_v nor_o to_o proceed_v but_o to_o go_v backward_o but_o to_o many_o see_v then_o that_o the_o church_n here_o be_v neither_o the_o whole_a congregation_n nor_o the_o pastor_n alone_o it_o follow_v that_o by_o the_o church_n here_o he_o mean_v the_o pastor_n with_o the_o ancient_n or_o elder_n or_o else_o who_o can_v he_o mean_v and_o as_o for_o this_o manner_n of_o speech_n wherein_o by_o the_o church_n be_v understand_v the_o chief_a governor_n and_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v oftentimes_o use_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n from_o the_o which_o our_o saviour_n borrow_v this_o manner_n of_o speak_v as_o in_o exodus_fw-la it_o be_v say_v that_o moses_n wrought_v his_o miracle_n before_o y_o e_o chap._n 4._o chap._n people_n when_o mention_n be_v make_v before_o only_o of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n who_o moses_n have_v call_v together_o and_o most_o manifest_o in_o josue_n where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o that_o kill_v a_o man_n at_o unwate_n shall_v chap._n 0._o chap._n return_v unto_o the_o city_n until_o he_o stand_v before_o the_o congregation_n to_o be_v judge_v where_o by_o the_o congregation_n he_o mean_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o congregation_n for_o it_o do_v not_o appertain_v to_o all_o to_o judge_v of_o this_o case_n likewise_o in_o the_o chronicle_n and_o diverse_a other_o place_n and_o therefore_o i_o conclude_v that_o for_o so_o cha_z 1._o li._n 13._o cha_z much_o as_o those_o be_v necessary_a and_o perpetual_a which_o be_v speak_v of_o in_o those_o word_n tell_v the_o church_n and_o that_o under_o those_o word_n be_v comprehend_v the_o elder_n or_o ancient_n that_o the_o elder_n &_o ancient_n be_v necessary_a and_o perpetual_a officer_n in_o the_o church_n io._n whitgifte_n here_o be_v many_o word_n without_o matter_n &_o a_o great_a thing_n pretend_v to_o no_o purpose_n for_o the_o principal_a office_n of_o charity_n both_o have_v be_v &_o may_v be_v well_o exercise_v without_o your_o senior_n interpret_v dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la interpret_v the_o place_n mat._n 18._o do_v in_o no_o respect_n prove_v the_o contrary_n for_o it_o only_o teach_v a_o order_n how_o to_o proceed_v charitable_o in_o private_a offence_n &_o not_o in_o public_a as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o moreover_o to_o tell_v the_o church_n be_v either_o public_o to_o reprove_v those_o that_o have_v be_v private_o in_o that_o manner_n admonish_v &_o will_v not_o repent_v or_o else_o to_o complain_v unto_o such_o as_o have_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n according_a to_o that_o which_o i_o say_v before_o of_o this_o place_n in_o my_o answer_n to_o y_z e_z admonition_n and_o herein_o you_o join_v with_o i_o in_o that_o you_o take_v the_o church_n there_o for_o the_o chief_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n though_o we_o differ_v in_o y_z e_z person_n church_n church_n for_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n for_o you_o will_v have_v it_o only_o mean_v of_o the_o pastor_n &_o senior_n and_o i_o think_v it_o signify_v more_o general_o any_o which_o be_v lawful_o appoint_v to_o govern_v the_o church_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v one_o or_o more_o that_o have_v this_o authority_n commit_v unto_o he_o it_o be_v more_o to_o tell_v he_o than_o it_o be_v to_o tell_v twenty_o beside_o because_o he_o be_v in_o authority_n do_v bear_v the_o office_n of_o a_o public_a magistrate_n who_o have_v power_n public_o to_o correct_v that_o which_o be_v private_o commit_v and_o therefore_o he_o that_o tell_v one_o such_o may_v well_o be_v say_v to_o tell_v the_o church_n because_o he_o tell_v such_o a_o one_o as_o have_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n and_o be_v a_o public_a person_n so_o that_o he_o rise_v from_o private_a admonition_n to_o open_a complaint_n from_o private_a witness_n to_o a_o public_a magistrate_n and_o therefore_o this_o be_v to_o rise_v not_o to_o fall_v to_o proceed_v not_o to_o go_v backward_o but_o admit_v that_o mo_z than_o one_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n which_o i_o also_o confess_v yet_o do_v it_o