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A57809 The Quakers refuge fixed upon the rock of ages, though the swelling waters dash never so violently to overturn it wherein is prov'd, that the narrative of Ralph James is an absolute lying-wonder, according to his own definition : and also, the great controversie between the people of God called Quakers, and others, about the holy spirit of God and the Scriptures, truly stated, and very briefly discoursed, as it is owned by the Quakers, and the truth cleared from the false suggestions and deceitful insinuatins of the anabaptists about the said controversie : in answer to a subtil pamphlet, lately published, intituled, The Quakers subterfuge or evasion overturned : also a few queries propounded unto Ralph James, and the author of the subterfuge &c. / by Robert Ruckhill ; to which is added another postscript in answer to some queries propounded in the said pamphlet, wherein many untruths are suggested ; but herein the truth is cleared, and the evasion and deceit of the Baptists made more fully manifest by John Whitehead. Ruckhill, Robert.; Whitehead, John, 1630-1696. 1673 (1673) Wing R2169; ESTC R21457 28,153 51

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pedetentim to tract this Author onely shall endeavour to wipe away that immerited Aspertion of Untruth and Immodesty which the Author under hand hath cast upon the Title Page of T. R's Book by proving their Narrative to be worthily stiled The Anabaptists Lying-Wonder and so proceed to such other Particulars as lie in my way That the Narrative of R. James is deservedly called A Lying-Wonder and that by their own Definition of a Lying-Wonder appears thus First Because it is False in it self 2dly It is brought to maintain a Falshood 3dly To Oppose a Truth That the Narrative is False in it self hath abundantly appeared in the two Books of T. R. beforesaid both by Testimonies Certificates sufficiently witnessed beyond all Contradiction But in regard this Author and some Independents in these Parts still urge That Rich. Anderson was a Quaker at least in Principle let 's hear what they say for themselves wherefore they should be believed This Author in the 10th page of his Subterfuge urgeth That R. A. was a Quaker n Principle and that for these Reasons First In that he restifies at a high rate for the Light Within 2. In that he hath proclaimed the Quakers to be the People of God and owned of God as was Moses 3. Because R. A. went in the Conceits of his own Heart on an Unsent Errand But what 's this to the Quakers Here is all the united Strength the Anabaptists and other Professors are able to make to prove R. A. a Quaker But will these poor Remains of their shattered Forces do it Surely nay Will the Devil 's frequent and open Confession that Christ is the Holy One of God prove him to be a Christian Or will that Pythoniss Acts 16. her following Paul and Silas many dayes perhaps more then they affirm R. A. conversed with the Quakers crying These Men are the Servants of the Most High God which shew unto you the Way of Salvation prove her a true Proselite and Convert to that Way of Salvation unto which with the Preachers thereof she had born so clear a Testimony Let the Sober-minded judge And if so ample Testimonies as clear and full as any they instance R. A. gave to the Quakers will not prove the said Conclusions then let Shame cover the Faces of the Anabaptists and their envious Confederates until they have Repented and taken as much Pains in the Vindication of God's Eternal Truth owned by the Quakers as they have taken in Opposing it Neither ought R. Anderson his pronouncing R. J. a Leper from the consideration of a Scripture as he confesseth and they own see Subterfuge p. 11. and then not sent by the Light the Quakers witness to to their own Contradiction as they before suggested nor his falfe Pretending to Heal the Sick which they urge he attempted but sail'd I say neither of these ought of Right to reflect upon the Principles or Doctrines of the Quakers or prove him one of their Prophets any more then the Sons of Sceva the Jew their naming over them that had Evil spirits the Name o● Je●us and Paul was reflective upon the Principles and Doctrine of Paul or proved them to be Prophets of the Christians who though they were not smitten with Leprosie or other inward Pains yet got they their Coates rent off their Backs and their Bones Beaten for their Presumption Thus it is manifest their Narrative is false in respect of the Father and no truer in the Child which R. J. affirms in his Narrative was smitten all over with Spots which they call Leprosie and since Dead as his Letter affirms but now after their Cross Examination of R. A. they are glad with Shame enough to exchange their Lepresie for a Simple Sore and the Dead Child is yet Above to the shame of chose Impostors were they not past Shame See Subterfuge p. 13. As Impious also is their Pretence That the Child was smitten with Leprosie for the Father's Offence sith R. A. has affirmed before two credible Witnesses men of honest Repution namely Tho. Markam and Edw. Gilliat both of Brigg That the Sore which they call Leprosie was upon the Child some time before the Father pronounced the Leprosie And the Truth of this is yet further demonstrable from R. Anderson's own word as recited by this Author himself in the 13th page of his Subtersuge where as in a vain flourish pretending to produce some considerable Proof of the Child's Reprosie he hath these words But now saith he let us hear what R. Anderson himself saith who being asked by their own Witnesses there named Whether he had not a Child that was smitten with Leprosie after he had pronounced R. James a Leper R. Anderson answers as this Author records it That he had a Child THEN that did break out into Sores Mark Reader he does not answer directly to the Question as they expected he would for then he should have said His Child was smitten with Leprosie afterwards but on the contrary his Answer clearly implies what is before proved viz. That the Child had the Sore upon it even THEN when the Father pronounced the Leprosie And here R. James and his Adherents have not onely Abused the World with their Lying-Wonder but also falsly Accused the Impartial Justice of the Most Righteous God who never yet would edge the Teeth of any Child when the Father only had eaten Sower Grapes much less would smite an Innocent Child for the Father's Offence with so Sore a Punishment as Spots which they call Leprosie all over whilst yet the Father's Sin was not Committed Let every sober man consider what spirit these men are of As for the Eye and Ear-witnesses of the Asslictions of R. A. his Family which the Quakors with good Reason call'd for this Author proceeds in his old mode of Subtilty and instead of producing them he tells us That there are Neighbours that say They dore member some Afflictions in R. A 's Family about Nine Years since but would not be brought into Question c. Would any man in his Wits bring such pittiful stuff as this in such a Concern Who knows not but most Families where Children are at one time or another are under some Affliction This is just like the Author But doubtless if he had any Witnesses to the Purpose he would not fail to produce them in such a Case as this where the Credit of their whole Party lies at stake therefore since he produceth none Reason must needs conclude he hath none for in such Cases the Maxim hold true De non apparentibus et non ex●●●e●●ibus eadem est Ratio And thus as their Narrative is proved salfe in it self so it was brought to maintain all the Falshood before said to wit concerning R. A 's Leprous Child afflicted Family and the Manner of their Healing all proved Falshoods And it was brought to oppose this Truth that the holy Spirit of God is the only true Standard to Judge and
nay then shew when that Precept was abrogated and if yea then whether are not they that call and are called Mr. Ralph James Mr. Ben. Morley Mr. John Green c. Breakers of that plain Command and being guilty of that are guilty of all notwithstanding their Water-Baptism Let these Queries be answered plainly and in sound words and think not to solve one Query by propounding another R. R. Another Postscript TO RALPH JAMES And those which have taken part with him by JOHN WHITEHEAD AS in a Postscript annexed to the Answer to your Narrative of the Eminent Hand of God that besel a Quaker and his Family called Richard Anderson at the Town of Panton in Lincolnshire I queried and that upon just Grounds Why thou and thy Brethren had conspired together to utter a Slander and Reproach against the People of God called Quakers in affirming Richard Anderson to be one of them And again in a Book intituled The Quakers Subterfuge or Evasion Overturned ye have given me just Ground to say How long will you make Lyes your Refuge and under Falshood seek to cover your Selves For instead of Answering what was Righteously and Reasonably propounded to you which ye should have done if ye would have approved your selves Innocent Men ye have utterred more deceitful and pernicious Slanders against me as is manisest in your Anti-queries to me whilst ye have utterly declined proving your former not being able to mention one of the People of God called Quakers that ever owned Richard Anderson nor any of their Meetings to which he did belong nor who of them he did ever joyn with in the Worship of God nor any thing in Proof That his Child was smitten with Leprosie nor himself and Family with a grievous Malady saving his own word whom you conclude was a false Prophet and deluded Creature both subject to speak and believe Lyes And therefore your Narrative and ye are justly fallen under Censure having no better Foundation whereon to stand then the Testimony of a Simple Deluded Man whom ye have manifest to be a Lying Prophet which Testimony ye have by cross Examination if not Subornation obtained and therefore not any can give credit to it but such as are willing to believe a thing because a Lying Ignorant Man saith it who hath unsaid it again before many Witnesses as before is manifest And therefore I shall not further insist upon it but proceed to answer your Anti-Queries In the first of which ye affirm that I hold That the Gospel was never Preached in England till George Fox preached it and then queries Whether I did not assert it thereby manifesting your Rashness and Injustice who first Condemn and then make Enquiry not being able to prove what ye have charged me with For sure I am That I never thought that George Fox was the first that ever preached the Gospel in England and therefore have been far from affirming it for there have been Openings and Breakin gs forth of the Gospel Light and Power in divers Ages in England in a Despised Suffering Remnant though not in that Fulness a● in our Age. I am also sensible ever since I knew God or was acquainted with him how the Glorious Gospel was preached to or in every Creature which is under Heaven Col. 1.23 and it s own Light shined in Men's Hearts as the Apostles testified in their dayes about which time there were also Witnesses of that Glorious Gospel came to preach it in this Island according to History who turned People from Darkness to Light as we do and from Satan's power to the Power of God in which Power a Remnant have been preserved through Ages and Generations though many who have got the Form have denyed the Power and reproached and perfecuted those which have been in the Power Light and Life which the Apostles and primitive Christians were in From which Power Light and Life there hath been an Apostacy so that Darkness has covered the Earth gross Darkness has bin upon the generallity of People who have been estranged from the Life of the Prophets and Apostles and primitive Christians Martyrs of Jesus since which Apostacy or Falling away from the Life which the Witnesses and Martyrs of Jesus were in George Fox was the first stable Minister of the true Light in this Age that God raised up in his Power to turn People from Darkness to the True Light and from Satan's power to God unto which he first and many more since in these latter dayes have given witness That he lighteth every Man that cometh into the World that all through him might believe and receive the Remission of Sins And in this Gospel I have Laboured and not in vain and of it am not ashamed for it is the Power of God to Salvation in all them that believe Though unto those that are Disobedient it is a Stone of Stumbling and Rock of Offence And 't is no marvel that those which stumble at the Word which is nigh in their Hearts and are unsensible of its Power and Virtue stumble at the Testimony which is given of it by those which have felt and handled it and do know 't is the same Glorious Gospel which in the Apostles dayes shined in their Hearts and gave them the Knowledge of the Glory of God in the Face of Jesus Christ and this Treasure they had and we have in Earthen Vessels that the Excellency of the Power may be of God to whom be the Praise forever 2 Cor. 4.6 7. Secondly thou enquirest whether he that holds that nothing which was mortal was called Christ doth not thereby deny the Death of Christ thereby intimating that I asserted That nothing which was Mortal was called Christ But what Occasion thou Thomas Grantham who was then my Opposite and I am perswaded Opposite to Truth it self gavest me to speak Words to that Purpose with other Words that did declare my Sence of them thou sayest nothing nor hast thou been so ingenuous as to declare what I writ many Years ago to William Smith of Elshem to be communicated to thee and thy Brethren wherein the Truth of what I said in that Case also the other whereupon thou groundest thy third Query concerning Christs having no Body of Flesh as thou imaginest besides his Church is made apparent and therefore I shall here insert the substance of it seeing it stands upon thy Head unanswered so that the intelligent Reader may understand that he who sayeth that I told him nothing which was mortal was called Christ hath both wronged me and the Truth it self by relating some of my Words out of that Order and Sence wherein they were spoken as also in that he hath left out and not declared the rest of my Words which were spoken at the same Time whereby the true Sence of those Words which he relates might and may be understood and therein he hath shewed First That his Mind is so prejudic'd and by assed against us
THE QUAKERS REFUGE Fixed upon the Rock of Ages Though the Swelling Waters Dash never so Violently to Overturn it Wherein is prov'd that the Narrative of Ralph James is an absolute Lying-Wonder according to his own Definition And also The great Controversie between the People of God called Quakers and others about the holy Spirit of God and the Scriptures truly stated and very briefly discoursed as it is owned by the Quakers And the Truth Cleared from the False Suggestions and Deceitful Insinuations of the Anabaptists about the said Controversie ●n Answer to a subtil Pamphlet lately published Intituled The Quakers Subterfuge or Evasion Overturned Also A few Queries propounded unto Ralph James and the Author of the Subterfuge c. By ROBERT RUCKHILL To which is added another Postscript in Answer to some Queries propounded in the said Pamphlet wherein many Untruths are suggested but herein the Truth is cleared and the Evasion and Deceit of the Baptists made more fully manifest By JOHN WHITEHEAD The Lip of Truth shall be Established forever but a Lying Tongue is but for a Moment Prov. 12.19 Righteous Man hateth Lying Words but the Wicked causeth Slander and Shame Prov. 13.5 Printed in the Year 1673. Honest Impartial Reader WHen first the * There being about Nine Years between the Generation and the Birth Monstrous Production of the Anabaptists Lying-Wonder extant in their Narrative and prefixed Letters had so Vigorously alarum'd the Nation I was under some exercise of Mind as having the Ground and Design of the Anabaptists opened in me in that their Undertaking which I feared could not be so obvious to that Southern Friend who was first engag'd in the Detection of their Slanders by reason of his remote Residence from those Parts where those things were pretended to be acted But when I had seen the first and second Books of T. R. where their Deceits were so evidently discovered and so signally detected although their Ground was not so much perceived I did acquiesce in a patient Hope and Expectation of a Succesful Issue on the Truth 's behalf Afterwards came forth another Book put forth as I conceive by a Clandestine Author intituled The Quakers Subterfuge or Evasion Overturned c. whereat I was much stirred in mind to observe somewhat concerning the said Book but was still stay'd by a certain Expectation shortly to see the Answer by that Friend who was already engaged in that Service But being at Lincoln the 25th of December last where I expected to have sound the said Answer I not onely understood that the Book was unanswered but much contrary to my Expectation the Work it self brought to my Hands which I accepted not without Fear and Trembling wherefore my Soul humbly implores the Assistance of the Eternal Wisdom without which I am both unable and unfit to do Him any Service And now Reader sith the all-disposing Providence has thus order'd things I shall candidly address my self to communicate unto thee and to the whole Nation if they please what I have observ'd to be the original true Ground and Cause why the Anabaptists at this Season should produce their Lying-Wonder which the Author in hand affirms was brought ONLY to oppose the spirit of Falshood in Richard Anderson when as about Nine Years by this Authors Confession have expir'd since the Matter contain'd in their Narrative was acted see their Subterfuge p. 9 13. Surely if the Anabaptists had been as slow in the cure of Leprosies Pains Exstasies c. as they have been in opposing R. A's false spirit what had become of him his Leprous Child Wife and Family or of Mary Brown long ere this day But I proceed About the 26th day of the 6th Moneth 1669. was the Dispute at Wrawby mention'd by the Anabaptists and upon the last day of the same Moneth William Smith of Eltham late a Brother of the Baptists but now a faithful Follower of the Light of Christ that Light of the World gave forth a Writing thus dedicated To all such as deny that the holy Spirit ought to be Supream Judge in Man and in Matters of Faith above the holy Scriptures This was directed in particular to Ralph James and John Kirk by of Brigg but they have not answer'd it to this day though J. K. did promise to answer it At last after some Provocation used J. K. writes a reviling Letter about 17 Months after while R. James is imply'd to bring forth into the World this Monstrous Birth the Narrative which had lain in the dark womb of Oblivion about 9. Years thus after the mode of Antichrist to establish their false Doctrines by Signs and Lying Wonders at one fatal Blow to assassinate the Innocent Name Cause of the Quakers forever In this seeming Distress the Quakers flee to the Name of the Lord their strong Tower there to repose in Safety until a just Defence might advance in their Vindication which no sooner appears under the hand of T. R. but presently advances another Opposer of God's Everlasting Truth charges the Quakers in their chiefest Strength intending by fine Force to overturn their Subterfuge and render them obnoxious to the Pursuit and Chase at least of every insulting Enemy that none might forever hereafter dare to assert the Dignity and Power of the Spirit of God above the Writings of Men lest their Children should be smitten with Leprosie and themselves with intolerable Pains This R●ader is the Ground and Design as I perceive of the Anabaptists Envy and Wrath against an Innocent People and in all probability had it not been for the Writing aforesaid which they have not been able to answer and are therefore vex'd and gaul'd the Matter of their Narrative and Lying-Wonder might have rotted in the Grave forever without all Hope of a Resurrection whereas now after the Second Death thereof it must unburied stink above Ground to the Shame and Reproach of the Anabaptists in all succeeding Generations For the Truth on the Quakers behalf and the Anabaptists Deceits are so Perspicuous in two Books written by T. R. intituled The Anabaptists Lying-Wonder and The Anabaptists Preacher Unmask'd unto the serious Perusal whereof I refer the Reader for ample Satisfaction that its verily hoped their Envy against us in this Particular will not survive another Paroxism Le ts therefore leave it on its Death-Bed a while and examine what considerable Supplies the Author under Consideration hath brought to their Dying Cause in his last Expedition From Adlingfleet in Merceland the 8th day of the 11th Moneth 1672. Robert Ruckhill THE Quakers Refuge Fixed upon the Rock of Ages c. FOrasmuch as the Matter of Fact with its Circumstances contain'd in the two first Books of the Anabaptists with the Additions and also so much as concerns their Cross Examination of their own Member Richard Anderson extant in this Book now under search called The Quakers Subterfuge c. hath been sufficienly answer'd by my Friend T. R. I shall not need