Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
book_n	call_v	principle_n	quaker_n	1,601	5	10.2010	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A44846	Something that lately passed in discourse between the King and R.H. published to prevent the mistakes and errors in a copy lately printed contrary to the knowledge or intention of the party concerned ... therefore it was thought convenient for the removing of errors and mistakes to be reprinted in a more true form and order for the satisfaction of others [by] R. H.	Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.; Charles II, King of England, 1630-1685.	1660 (1660)	Wing H3235; ESTC R29444	3,714	10

Something that lately passed in DISCOURSE Between the KING And R. H. PUBLISHED TO PREVENT THE mistakes and Errors in a Copy lately printed contrary to the knowledge or intention of the party concerned and not only so but also misprinted and abused in several particulars therefore it was thought convenient for the removing of Errors and mistakes to be reprinted in a more true form and order for the satisfaction of others R. H. LONDON Printed by A. W. for G. C. and are to be sold at his Shop at the Black Spread Eagle at the West-end of Pauls 1660. Something that lately passed in DISCOURSE Between the KING And R. H. c. R. H. SINce the Lord hath called us and gathered us ●o be a people to walk in his fear and in his truth we have alwaies suffered and been persecuted by the Powers that have ruled and been made a prey of for departing from iniquity and when the breach of no just Law could be charged against us then they made laws of purpose to ensnare us and so our sufferings wert unjustly continued King It is true those that have ruled over you have been cruel and have professed much which they have not done R H. And likewise the same sufferings do now abound in more cruelty against us in many parts of this Nation as for instance one at Thetford in Norfolk where Henry 〈◊〉 ministring unto the people was taken out of the meeting and whipped and sent out of the Town from Paris● to Parish towards Lancashire and the chief gro●nd of his Accusation in his Pass which was shewen to the King was because he denyed to take the Oath of Allegiance and Supremacy and so because that for conscience sake we cannot swear but have learned obedience to the Doctrine of Christ which saith swear not at all hereby an occasion is taken against us to persecute us and it is well known that we have not sworn for any nor against any but have kept to the truth and and our yea hath been yea and our nay nay in all things which is more than the Oath of those that are out of the truth King But why can you not swear for an Oath is a common thing amongst men to any engagement R. H. Yes it is manifest and we have seen it by experience and it is so common amongst men to swear and engage either for or against things that there is no regard taken to them nor fear of an Oath that therefore which we speak of in the truth of our hearts is more than what they swear King But can you not promise as before the Lord which is the substance of the Oath R. H. Yes what we do affirm we can promise before the Lord and take him to our witness in it but our so promising hath not been accepted but the ceremony of an Oath they have stood for without which all other things were accounted of no effect King But how may we know from your words that you will perform R. H. By proving of us for they that swear are not known to be faithfull but by proving of them and so we b● those that have tryed us are found to be truer in our promises than ●thers by their Oathes and to those that do yet p●ove u● we shall appear the same King Pray what is your Principle R. H. O●● Principle is this That Jesus Christ is the true light which enlightneth every one that cometh into the wo●ld that all men through him might believe and that th●y were to obey and follow this light as they have received it whereby they ma● be led unto God and unto righ●●o●sn●sse and the knowl●dge of the truth that they may be saved King This do all Christians confess to be truth and he is not a Christian that will deny it R. H. But many have denyed it both in words w●itings and opposed us in it and above an h●ndred Books are put forth in opposition unto this Principle That some of the Lords standing by the King said that none would deny that every one is enlightned Lord And one of the Lords asked How long we had been called Quakers or did we own that name R. H. That name was given to us in scorn and detision about twelve years since but there was some that lived in this truth before we had that name given unto us King How long is it since you owned this judgement and way R.H. It is near twelve yeares since I owned this truth according to the manifestation of it King Do you own the Sacrament R.H. As for the word S●crame●t I do not read of it in the Scripture but a● for the body and blood of Christ I own and that th●re is no remission without blood King Well that is it but do you n●t beleeve that every one is ●ommanded to rec●ive it R. H. This we do beleive ●hat according as it is writen in the Scripture that Christ at his last Supper took bread and brake it and g●ve to his Disciples and also took the Cup and blessed it and said unto them and as often as ye do this that is as often as they brake bread you shew forth the Lo●ds death till he come and this we believe they did and they eat their bread in singlenesse of Heart from house to house and Christ did come again un●o them according to his promise after which they said we being many are one bread for we are all partakers of this own bread Kings Friend Then one of the Kings friends said It is true for as m●ny grains make one bread so they being many members were one body Another of them said If they be the bread then they must be broken R. H. There is difference between that bread which he brake at his last Supper wherein they were to shew forth as in a sign his death untill he came and this whereof they speak they being many are one Bread for herein they were come more into the substance and to speak more mysticall as they knew it in the Spirit Kings Friends Then they said It is truth and he had spoken nothing but truth King How know you that you are inspired by the Lord R.H. According as we read in the Scriptures That the inspiration of the Almighty giveth understanding so by its inspiration is an understanding given us of the things of God Lord Then one of the Lords said How do you know that you are led by the true Spirit R. H. This we know because the Spirit of truth it rep●oves the world of Sin and by it we were reproved of sin and also are led from sin unto righteousness and obedience of truth by which effects we know it is the true Spirit for the Spirit of the wicked one doth not lead unto such things King and Lords Then the King and his Lords said It was truth King Well of this you may be assured That you shall none of you suffer for your Opinions or Religion so long as you live peaceably and you have the word of a King for it and I have also given forth a Declaration to the same purpose that none shall wrong you nor abuse you King How do you own Magistrates or Magistracy R.H. Thus we do own Magistrates whosoever is set up by God whether King as Supream or any set in authority by him who are for the punishment of evil doers and the praise of them that do well such we shall submit unto and assist in righteous and civill things both by body and estate and if any Magistrates do that which is unrighteous we must declare against it onely submit under it by a patient suffering and not rebell against any by insurrections plots and contrivances King Then the King said that is enough Lord Then on of the Lords a●ked why do you meet together seeing every one of you have the Church in your selves R. H. According as it is written in the Scriptures the Church is in God Thes. 1.1 And they that feared the Lord did meet often together in the fear of the Lord and to us it is profitable and herein we are edified and strengthned in the life of truth King How did you first come to beleive the Scriptures were truth R. H. I have believed the Scriptures from a child to be a declaration of truth when I had but a literal knowledge naturall education and tradition But now I know the Scriptures to be true by the manifestation and operation of the Spirit of God fulfilling them in me King In what manner do you meet and what is the order in your meetings R· H. We do meet in the same order as the people of God did waiting upon him and if any have a word of exhortation from the Lord he may speak it or if any have a word of reproof or admonition and as every one hath received the gift so they may minister one unto another and may be edified one by another whereby a growth in●o the knowledge of the truth is administred to one another One of the Lords Then you know not so much as you may know but there is a growth then to be admitted of R.H. Yes we do grow dayly into the knowledge of the truth in our exercise and obedience to it King Are any of your friends gone to Rome R. H. Yes there is one in Prison in Rome King Why did you send him thither R. H. We did not send him thither but he found something upon his Spirit from the Lord whereby he was called to go to declare against Superstition and Idolatry which is contrary to the will of God Kings Friend said There were two of them at Rome but one was dead King Have any of your friends been with the great Turk R.H. Some of our friends have been in that Country Other things were spoken concerning the liberty of the servants of the Lord which were called of him into his service that to them there was no limitation to parishes or places but as the Lord did guide them in his work and service by his spirit So the King promised that we should not any wayes suffer for our opinion or Religion and so in love passed away FINIS