Inspiration of his Holy Spirit c. I really believe that the Hearts of all Mankind cannot be cleansed by any other means but by the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God And further in the Collect for the first Sunday after Easter they Pray for the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit that they may think those things that be good and by God's mercyful Guidance may perform the same c. This I am sure cannot be done but by the Inspiration of the Almighty And in divers of the other Collects they Pray for the Light and Grace of God also Certainly these Men that writ the Liturgy of the Church of England did believe that the Light Grace and Inspiration of the Almighty was Sufficient to Illuminate Inspire and Teach all Mankind or they would not have inserted it so plainly as they have done It were a work very unprofitable to Pray for that which is not attainable And further in the aforesaid Articles of the Church of England ye shall find in the 13th Article that they say That Works done before the Grace of Christ and the Inspiration of his Holy Spirit are not pleasing to God for as much as they spring not of Faith in Jesus Christ neither do they make Men meet to receive Grace c. This is a Truth that will stand for ever with all true Christians Let Men consider with themselves how they should come to the true knowledge of God and turn their Mind inward with a serious desire after Eternal Happiness and empty themselves of their imaginary Wisdom and wait upon God in Silence to obtain Wisdom of him from whom every good and perfect Gift comes which is not to be obtained but by God's Gracious Help and Assistance which will not be wanting on his part to bring them into Covenant with him under the most Glorious Dispensation of the Everlasting Gospel which is initiated under the New Covenant to be taught of God as the Scriptures of Truth do plentifully witness both in the Old and New Testament The Prophet Isaiah begins with these words Cease ye from Man whose Breath is in his Nostrils Wherein is he to be accounted of c. Isa 2. 22. And further the same Prophet says in chap. 45. 13. All thy Children shall be taught of the Lord and great shall be the Peace of thy Children Also the Prophet Jeremiah expresses himself fully concerning the New Covenant Jer. 31. 32 33 34. for shortness I shall repeat but part of it This is the Covenant that I will make with the House of Israel after those days saith the Lord I will put my Law in their inward parts and write it in their Hearts and will be their God and they shall be my People c. The same New Covenant is testified of at large in Heb. 8. 8. so to the end of that Chap. Our Blessed Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ confirmed it himself John 6. 45. saying As it is written in the Prophets They shall all be taught of God every Man that hath heard and hath learned of the Father cometh to me c. As many as are taught of God can set their Seals to this Truth as it is in Jesus But some have said That if the Quakers be under the New Covenant Taught of God What need have they of Men to Preach amongst them They who are in that Covenant need not be taught of Men saying Know the Lord whose Ministers teach as they are taught of him whose Spirit must not be limited from its own Ministry either in the Church or in the World as there are divers States so there are divers Ministrations suitable All Hearers are not come into that Covenant neither are all Israel which are of Israel and some are in Bondage to Sin still seeking after Deliverance and such have need to be instructed in order to turn them to the Light and to gather them to God and not to Men into outward Forms and Observations of Carnal Ordinances as many do at this day seeing all such Ordinances are put an End to under the New and Everlasting Covenant of Life and Peace with God Let none despise the Teachings of God under such vain Pretences as some have done to debase it or hide the weighty things of the Gospel from People for Wordly Interest and Profit keeping People always in Teaching that they may be always Paying them and bring them not to be Taught of God I have no enmity in my Heart against any but desire the good of all Mankind and that they may know the things belonging to their Peace before the day of God's Visitation be over with them If we look into the History of former Ages we shall find that the chief Obstructers of the Blessed Truth have been some of the Learned and are so still F. Malebranch that famous French-man in his Book intituled A Search after Truth says That Learned Men are most subject to Error and shews divers Reasons for it p. 75. Also in the Preface of his Book and several other places wherein are many excellent things worth the regarding In p. 121. he treats of the Divine Light and says It was God himself that inlightned the Wise Men in their Science which ungrateful Man calls Natural altho' it is derived to them from Heaven and brings divers places of Scripture to prove that the Light that all Men is enlightened withal is Divine and in many other places of his Book he writes to the same purpose This Man is said to be in Community with the Church of Rome but how his Book will rellish with them I know not because he writes much against the Errors of the Learned and Superstition also Altho' I do not approve of all that he hath written yet his Testimony of the Divine Light which he confesseth is the Light of the Mind and not of the Body Also his Testimony of God's Teaching in Man is worth the regarding and ought not to be slighted The Man that Translated this Book into English I suppose was a Protestant he was one of the Fellows of Magdalen Colledge in Oxford as appears by the Title of that Book I have heard it much commended by some sober Clergy-men of the Church of England This Divine Light Grace and Inspiration of the Almighty hath been the Rule and Guide of the People of God called Quakers they are come under the New Covenant to be taught of God by that inward Principle of the Divine Life whereby all good People governs their Actions and such are come to the Everlasting Gospel so as they use no empty professing words without Life in their Praying and Preaching as some high Professors have done which are but as a decoy to catch the World making a Money-Trade of Religion such superficial words have no Substance in them altho' they be the most glorious Expressions that Man can invent yet they are but Pictures for the Ears as Images are for the Eyes and there may be as much Idolatry in the one as the other altho' they make their Phylacteries never so large yet it is but Will-Worship at best if it proceeds not from the Inspiration of the Almighty The Love of God constrains all true Christians to seek the good of others and I have no other ends in writing this Treatise but to put People in mind of their Eternal Welfare that they may seek after it and not to spend their precious time in the Vanities and Deceits of this present evil World but to come to seek after God in his Light with an humble and contrite Heart that they may be prepared to receive an Eternal Reward and to come to have a true Understanding of the holy Scriptures for they are a Sealed Book so that the Learned and Unlearned cannot understand them truly to make right use of them without the Inspiration of the Spirit of God this is witnessed by the People called Quakers in the Principles of their Religion called Truths Principles printed divers times within these 38 Years the last Impression printed 1699. and Sold by T. Sowle in White-hart-court in Gracious-Street These Principles treats of the Substance of true Religion in general Let none deceive themselves God will not be mocked For whatsoever a Man soweth that shall he reap also For he that soweth to his Flesh shall of the Flesh reap Corruption But he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap Everlasting Life Gal. 6. 7 8. This is a real Truth for as the Tree falleth so it lyeth and as Death leaves them so Judgment will find them therefore it concerns all Men to make their Calling and Election sure and spend their time in exercising their Consciences void of Offence towards God and towards Man that they may lay down their Heads in Peace with God and injoy heavenly Peace and Prosperity both in this Life and the Life to come which is the Desire of my Heart for all Mankind that they may be delivered from the Bondage of Corruption and received into the glorious Liberty of the Sons of God The 30th of the Month called October 1699. Ann Docwra ☞ Note Reader the Reason of the so long Delay of the Publication of this Answer was 1st Not the Author 's Omission but other Matters of greater Importance employing the Press that required more speedy Publication 2dly It being not so much known before as of late what Improvement the Adversaries make of the said Clamorous Book Stiled An Old Penitent 〈…〉 isciple c. and their Boasting for want of an Answer to it
THE Second Part OF AN APOSTATE-CONSCIENCE EXPOSED Being an ANSWER to a Scurrilous Pamphlet Dated the 11th of April 1699. Written and Published by F. Bugg INTITULED Jezabel withstood and her Daughter Ann Docwra reproved for her Lies and Lightness in her Book stiled An Apostate Conscience Exposed c. By ANN DOCWRA London Printed and Sold by T. Sowle in White-hart-court in Gracious-street 1700. THE PREFACE I will pass by his Whimsical and Ridiculous Title not troubling my Reader with any Comment upon it but refer him to what I have writ already in my Book intituled An Apostate Conscience Exposed and the miserable Consequences thereof disclosed Printed and Sold by T. Sowle in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-Street and at the Bible in Leaden-Hall-Street 1699. And also to what I do here offer in Defence of the Truth I stand here to maintain against this Apostate Quaker a Mercenary Agent belonging to such of the Clergy as are uneasie under the Liberty granted to Protestant Dissenters they attempting to break the Unity and Interest of the Kingdom which hath been so long endeavoured by Wise and Honest Men as also does appear in a printed Declaration of King Charles II. bearing date the 8th of April 1681. and there is a Vote of the 10th of January 1680. made by the Parliament then sitting in these words Resolved That it is the Opinion of this House that the prosecuting of Protestant Dissenters upon Penal Laws is at this time grievous to the Subject a weakning of the Protestant Interest an incouragement of Popery and dangerous to the Peace of the Kingdom And further to Illustrate this most rational and just Vote I shall refer my Reader to the Act of Parliament made by King William and Queen Mary intituled An Act for exempting their Majesties Protestant Subjects Dissenters from the Church of England from the Penalties of certain Laws This Act in the first Paragraph which is the Preamble and is as a Key to open the Intendment of the Law says That the Liberty granted may be an effectual means to Unite their Maje-Protestant Subjects in Interest and Affection This is a certain way to do it with all honest plain-hearted People and hath in some measure done it with such but F. Bugg and his Abettors of the Clergy have raised a New Persecution with Tongue and Pen it being out of their power to proceed any further although they have used their endeavours to do it this shews what Subjects they are to the King that have no respect to the Act for Uniting the Kings Subjects in Interest and Affection This F. Bugg hath been of a Seared Conscience and Shattered Head many Years as appears by the Rambling Stuff he hath written against the Quakers so called He hath printed Twenty Three Books and Papers that I have seen which have been mostly answered some of these Books are of a pretty large Volume of several Hundred Pages and in them so many Repetitions of Lyes that they are Numerous He writes the same thing over and over again mostly as to Religion and Government and many other things also When he first began his Controversie he joyned himself with some others that were Contentious Apostates like himself then joyned together in a Cabal the Books they writ against us were very many and the Sum of the whole matter was to render us Popishly Affected and very Obnoxious in the time of the Persecution with high Conceits both in their Conferences and Writings hoping they should by that means over-master us and bring us under them Thus F. Bugg went on until he had scribled away a good Estate and run many Hundred Pounds in Debt and then fled to the Clergy for Relief I have said to some of the Clergy That it was matter of Admiration to me that they should entertain F. Bugg's Books and give Credit to them as some of them had done there being so much Rambling Angry Stuff in them without Truth or Method Their Reply was That they did not look at his Books but he was a bold Fellow to oppose the Quakers There may be several things assigned for his Boldness First His Seared Conscience Secondly His Desperate Fortunes Thirdly His Shattered Head First His Seared Conscience imboldens him to write any thing although it be all manner of Forgeries Lyes and Deceit without any scruple Secondly His Desperate Fortunes imboldens him to say or write any thing although never so false to get Money of the Clergy and others also that gives any Credit to what he says or writes Who are more Bold and Resolute than Highway-Men that Robs the King's Subjects at Noon-day to get Money to maintain them in their Idleness and Wickedness Thirdly His Shattered Head makes him Bold and Resolute in any thing his Imagination suggests or his Malice can invent that he may be always at work to do Mischief which hath fallen upon himself at last Who are more Bold and Resolute than some of the People in Bedlam to do Mischief if they were not restrained I believe there is few Shatter-headed People that are so very much given to Mischief as F. Bugg is yet I have observed that such People are Malicious and are not to be pacified It is F. Bugg's Seared Conscience and Desperate Fortunes that set his Shattered Head at work more in Malice and Deceit than others A. D. THE Second Part OF AN Apostate Conscience EXPOSED c. Now I come to Answer his Scurrilous Pamphlet intituled Jezabel withstood c. HE begins with a Preamble against me and others after his usual manner and then says My business was to render F. Bugg a poor indigent Person that went about a Begging a grand Lye says F. Bugg Reply That was not my Business I had not writ upon that account if he had not forged Letters as from me to him and printed them with my name to them and also his cheating some of the Clergy with false Informations to get Money of them and for his Begging about to get Money to pay his Debts I suppose that none that knows him will deny it that are acquainted with his Concerns If any do it it is easie to be proved see the Bishop of Norwich's Certificate bearing date the 22d of October 1698. which he hath Printed in his Book intituled The Pilgrim's Progress c. page 149. That shews his indigency and his travelling about with it through the Bishop's Diocess the Universities and divers other Places for Relief of his Necessities do witness against him also a begging Petition dated the 25th of August 1698. with three Clergy-mens hands to it his Neighbouring Ministers as he says this Petition shews that what Relief he had received formerly was not sufficient to pay his Debts by one Hundred Pounds neither was he able to subsist to get a livelihood for himself and Family without further Relief with this Petition he went about Cambridge and other places also as I suppose I had a Copy sent me of this Petition and I
shewed it to some of the Clergy one of them took it and read it and said He did believe it might be a true Copy of F. Bugg's Petition Also the last Summer 1699. he was at Cambridge for more Money A Burser of a Colledge and some other Collegians told me That they had given him some more Money then to go home and set up his Trade He charges me with Eighteen Lyes more besides this which I shall return upon himself I may be mistaken in some small Circumstances but the Matter is true I do not yet find any mistake in that Lye 1. Is that I said He was but a poor Man when he first came amongst us and that he had not 30 l. a Year until after his Father's Death Reply What I writ I had partly out of his own Book and some from his own near Relations he writ but of 6 l. a Year and boasts much how he saved the Rent which I suppose was to set up his Trade when his Apprenticeship was out for he speaks of no more until after he came of Age which was about six Years after his Grandfathers Death and near four Years after he came amongst us This may be found in his Books see his Picture of Quakerism c. and his Pilgrim's Progress c. but he now says That his Grand father died in 1655. and left him 30 l. a Year of good House and Land in Milden-hall I have heard by one of his own Relations that knew the Estate as well as himself that it was not so much but after he came of Age he had an Augmentation added to the aforesaid 6 l. a Year if his Grand-fathers Will were searched into by some credible Persons I suppose there will not be found 30 l. a Year given him in the Year 1655. he had a good Estate when he began to Scribble against us but it was mostly purchased whilst he was amongst us and now hath brought himself to Beggery Lye 2. F. Bugg gave Bond to make his Wife a Joynture Reply He told me so himself and I was also so told by an honest Woman his near Relation that it was true he did make some writing to make his Wife a Joynture but he says He had but 20 l. in Money for his Wife's Portion I do not believe him because he told me many years ago That when he bought the great House at Mildenhall where his Son now dwells that his Wife's Father help'd him to buy it and made his Wife's Portion better than 100 l. which was as much as any of the younger Children had this he told me when he was accounted an honest Man although he denies it now Lye 3. F. Bugg says I say He sold his Estate to his Son To this he Replies That no Knight of the Post ever uttered a more manifest Lye And I may Reply Knights of the Post are Mercenary Agents and take Money for bearing false Witness and how far F. Bugg is guilty of that Offence let God and his own Conscience judge That he hath conveyed his Estate to his Son young Francis Bugg is no Lye His Son had 700 l. with his Wife by all relation and her Friends and Relations upon enquiry do affirm That it was settled upon the Marriage as firm as the Law can make it It were a bare-faced Cheat indeed to go about a begging to the Clergy for Money to pay his Debts and have an Estate to sell Lye 4. F. Bugg quotes my Book p. 26. That his Father Robert Bugg dwelt with him some Years after he was married c. This he says is a Lye upon a Lye four Stories high Reply Those were not the words in my Book see p. 26 27. where my words are these viz. That Robert Bugg Father to this Francis Bugg that writes now against us was a melancholly down-look'd Man by Relation and dwelt with his Son this Bugg some Years after F. Bugg was married and rose from Dinner and went out and was found drowned in a Water where he had no occasion to go to that place as F. Bugg and his Wife related it she to me and he to others yet living I heard my Brother Barnardistone speak of it many Years ago that F. Bugg's Father drowned himself as most People believed but the Coroners Jury did not find it Wilful Murder because there was some Grass found in one of his hands when he was taken out of the Water which they said was an Argument that he laid hold of to save himself such things are sudden Motions I believe that many have repented their so doing before the Breath departed their Bodies But F. Bugg says He was not so drowned the Record in the Crown Office will witness against him none of the King's Subjects that come to an untimely end but are recorded there This happened in or about the Month called January 1666. at Fridham in Cambridge-shire I writ not this to upbraid F. Bugg but to warn those that have incouraged him in scribling his Estate away to be bountiful to him in relieving his Necessities lest he should come to an untimely end through Dispair Lye 5. 6. F. Bugg mentions two Letters that I should write to him these Letters are both forged one of them proved so to be by a Certificate under an honest Man's hand see my Book p. 19 20 21. and in p. 31 32. And indeed there are things in them that I never writ said or thought Lye 7. F. Bugg was not the Author of his 20th Book c. Reply I do say I suppose that he was not the Author of the Book called his 20th Book see my Book p. 36. Lye 8. F. Bugg was seen at Oxford in the time when he writ his 20th Book c. Reply This is true and easie to be proved Lye 9. F. Bugg was sixteen Weeks from Home when he writ the aforesaid Book Reply This was reported by some of his own Family Lye 10. F. Bugg said in his last Book that Oxford exceeded Cambridge in their Bounty to him Reply This may be true I heard a very credible Clergy-man say that he had read the same thing in some of his Books as well as my self Lye 11. F. Bugg says I writ Verses of G. Fox Reply He knows this to be a Lye I have told him so divers times both of late Years and formerly yet he goes on and hath printed them so several times this is answered before see my Book p. 37 38. but he says I will not bestow much upon this crazy old piece which is now creeping into Unity with the Quakers c. Reply I have been not only in Unity but in Community with them above 36 Years even those F. Bugg call G. Fox's Party which are the most stedfast and real Quakers so called and am not so crazy as he reports me Although I am entred into the 76th Year of my Age yet through Mercy I can walk the Streets to visit the Sick
upon it applying them to G. Whitehead S. Cater and others which I never meant nor thought so as F. Bugg hath suggested both in the four forged Letters and otherwise I complained to a Clergy-man that the Letters which he had seen with my name to them F. Bugg had forged he answered That the Bishop of Rochester was so served there was a Letter counterfeited with the Bishop's hand to it so exactly that the Bishop did think at the first sight he had writ it himself until he had heard it and then he knew he never wrote those things in that Letter Since I discovered F. Bugg's Forgery I have heard this Story of the Bishops from divers and one of them a Magistrate an eminent Man He and I had some Discourse about it also Alderman Jermin late Mayor of Cambridge told me That he had divers false Passes and Certificates came to his hand and some Justices names to them counterfeited very exactly these shows that such things may be done and F. Bugg cannot clear himself in this case F. Bugg in this Book he writ against me says in p. 45. That Mr. Crisp and he hath more Letters of mine still by them that will fill another half Sheet Most if not all the Letters I writ to T. Crisp did only concern a Paper that F. Bugg and his Cabal had forged some things in it in the Year 1683. with my name to it in Print I am sure I never writ to him any thing else but concerning that Paper of any consequence and for F. Bugg he can shew nothing under my hand except he Forges it that I am ashamed or afraid of but I perceive by his Writing that he hath prepared a large Magazine of Forgery against me if his Clergy will pay for printing it And in p. 4. F. Bugg says Mr. Crisp and Mr. Keith are the Correctors of the Press when he writes against us It may be so I perceive by George Keith's Writings in Print he is in that Cabal with Tho. Crisp and if F. Bugg says true with him also but I will now leave F. Bugg and enter upon something of G. Keith's proceedings He is a Man of Contention and Strife as appears by his Books in Print he is so lifted up with his Scholarship that he boasts himself to be Wiser than others and hath sought preheminence over the People called Quakers as may appear in his printed Books and other Practices this hath been some cause of his Strife Debate and Contention in which he hath shown more Folly than Wisdom it is a common saying That a learned Fool is the most Troublesom and Contentious of all Men altho' his Craft is the principal Instrument of the proceedings in his undertakings yet he hath made but small progress in his Designs as may appear for I do not yet hear that he is taken into real Community with any known Perswasion either Presbyterian Independent Baptists or Church of England but hath endeavoured to gather a loose unstable People to himself by his Delusions to make them believe that the Light or Grace of God is not sufficient if obeyed to bring Man to Salvation His undervaluing the Heavenly and Divine Light hath brought him into Darkness and his Followers also into great Delusions This G. Keith in the time of the Persecution fled into America and left the Flock to the Wolf and now Liberty is granted in the Exercise of our Religion he and his Followers have disturbed our Meetings in divers places as appears by his own printed Relation of his Journey to Bristol and other places he show'd himself in our Meeting at Cambridge without our consents and took up the Meeting for a long time and some part of the time in Sophistry and Clamour against some of our Ministers at last he met with opposition which caused him to give over but he was so tedious that some of the Schollars that were present said If this Fellow had not been opposed he would have babbled until Mid-night He also lays claim to our Meeting-Houses and says They are as common for him as for others to Preach in This is not true our Meeting-Houses are common for all Hearers but they are not common to all Preachers they are not common for Jesuits nor to G. Keith an Apostate Quaker nor any others that are not in Unity and Community with us such have no lawful pretence to Preach amongst us and the Magistrate may to keep the Peace take notice of such upon complaint for they do but disturb our Meetings contrary to the Liberty granted in the Exercise of Religion I have been in Community with the People called Quakers above 36 Years and have observ'd there were many restless Spirits under divers Perswasions these sometimes joyned against us and some Apostate Quakers also and others that were under a large Profession of Religion yet their Principles were not powerful to bear them up in the time of Persecution but they skulk'd in holes and corners to perform their Worship to God and called it Humane Prudence these People were more Prudent than Pudent for they were not at ease there but were envious against us and were often scribbling against us and raising Controversies and Disputes in matters of Religion I write not these things to upbraid the proceedings of these worldly fearful Professors in general for there was some in Community with them that were an honest plain-hearted People that loved Peace and did not approve of their Contention altho' they lay still skulking until the Storm of Persecution was over and when the Sun shined then every Viper crept out of his hole then came forth George Keith and his Followers disturbing our Meetings with Clamouring against us in them and stirring up Disputes and Controversie in our Meetings for Worship which was a thing that was never known amongst us and where ever he appears this hath been his common practice pretending to discover Errors but this is but make-bate Opinion falsly called Religion that lives by Jangling and Contention and Knows not the pleasant Paths of Peace that the Children of Light walks in but God will blast the Expectations of all such turbulent Spirits and bring them to Confusion and exalt his Light and Grace in the Hearts of his Peaceable People which is sufficient to bring Salvation to all Mankind that yield obedience to it to bring them to heavenly Peace and Prosperity both in this Life and the Life which is to come Hasten this thy work O God The 22d of the Month called November 1699. Ann Docwra A Treatise concerning Enthusiasm or Inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God By A. D. There is a Spirit in Man and the Inspiration of the Almighty gives them understanding Job 32. 8. THE certainty of all true happiness consists in the true knowledge of God and his dear Son Jesus Christ This is Life Eternal that they might know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent John 17.
those times there was divers Books in Print of all the Priests that were sequestred and the Reasons why also there was a Pamphlet in Print much admired by some of the Priests of those times and their Followers entituled Lambeth Fair proclaim'd c. It was a meer Fiction much like F. Bugg's New Rome Arraigned This Fair was pretended to be kept at the Bishop's Palace at Lambeth where the Bishop's Pontifical Robes were to be Sold naming every particular of them with great Derision In the Front of this Scurrilous Pamphlet was the Picture of the Pope setting all on a heap in a Chair with these following Verses under it Here I sit grubling in St. Peter's Chair Opprest with Grief to think on Lambeth-Fair In those days the common-prayer-Common-Prayer-Book was tied to the Troopers Horses Tails in some places and the Boys run after it this made Sport for those Priests that clamoured against it in the Pulpit and their Followers this was F. Bugg's established Church and Ministry that he Clamours so much against the Quakers for their going into their Steeple-Houses in many of his Books I never heard that the Quakers so called disturbed the Episcopal Clergy in their Worship by going in amongst them they only disturbed F. Bugg's established Ministers of the late professing times I remember when King Charles II. came in and the other Government was turned out the Chancellor made a Speech in the Parliament-House which was printed wherein he declared the sad Condition the Church of England was in for many Years and used this Expression that She had been buried in her own Rubbish for a long time This shews She was Subject to Accidents it must be her Moderation and the Divine Wisdom that can uphold her If She be good in her Office She will stay the longer in it Lye 18. If Friends were so charitable as to send S. Cater 10 l. to help to pay his Debts or carry on his Trade they did well better than F. Bugg in upbraiding him Reply This hath been answered already see my Book p. 40 41. He hath worried S. Cater about this 10 l. in divers of his Books and not one Penny of it out of his Purse if he had any Money sent him But F. Bugg says When did they or I account S. Cater a Beggar an Indigent Fellow a Judas a Man of a Desperate Fortune Because you supplied His Needs and help'd to pay his Debts Reply S. Cater never went about a begging either with Certificate or Petition nor any other ways there was no Beggars in Israel of Old neither is there any Beggars in the True Church now the weighty things of the old Law are not Abolished but fulfilled in our making Provision for our Poor without Begging S. Cater hath been a great Sufferer divers ways and times not only by Fines but Imprisonment seven or eight times and a Prisoner six Years together at one of these times not suffered to stir out of the Prison doors for three Years or more and at this time he had a Wife and two or three small small Children to provide for and in this condition his Friends could not with good Conscience see him want F. Bugg says in p. 8. How came you so bold as to meddle with the Bishop's Certificate Reply It was to undeceive the Bishop and others that had been deceived by him and some other Concerns also that may be found in my Book p. 63 to 66. After he had clamoured against the Quakers many lines and repeated some things as have been answered already about his Losses by the Quakers and his defrauding a near Relation of 15 l. see my Book p. 51 to 54. then he says Come Cousin Docwra for so I 'll call you since we had the misfortune to have a Lyar drop into our Family Reply This F. Bugg is not related to me nor my Husband my Husband was descended from the Hartford Docwra's known by the name of the Docwra's of Puttridge there are three Brothers Ancient Men now living together these were my Husband 's nearest Relations of the Docwras one of them hath been at my House several times this Year I asked him if they knew F. Bugg His answer was That he knew him not neither did he ever hear of the name Bugg It is likely his Grandfather was something related to the ancient Cambridge-shire Docwra's I have heard so but they were not of my Husband's Relations as I understand He goes on with his old repetitions of his Sufferings upon the account of his Religion his Imprisonments and Fines I can say little of his Imprisonments that being before I was acquainted with him but for his Fines he hath printed them all being but 25 l. by his own Relation excepting 5 s. and 10 s. Fines which poor Friends were strained for as well as he He suffered the least of any I know that had Estates to lose the Fines were two one was 15 l. for an unknown Preacher the other was 10 l. for the Poverty of the Man that kept the Meeting at his House of this 25 l. he got the 15 l. of it of a near Relation by Fraud and the Justice that prosecuted him gave him 5 l. of the Money again so that his whole loss was but 5 l. He had several ways to escape Sufferings for when he dwelt at Ely and the Persecution grew hot there then he fled to Milden-hall and when the Persecution grew hot there then he fled to the Church of England see my Book concerning his Fines where it is related more at large p. 51 52. concerning the 15 l. where he got 20 l. for it But F. Bugg says He clothed some of our poor Preachers and put Money in their Pockets He hath sounded his Trumpet of this in several of his Books but I could never hear any body besides himself say so yet it is possible he might give a poor Man some Cloth out of his Shop to make him a Coat such as is called Old Shop-keepers and will sell for little but for Money I do not believe he gave any but what he gave in a Meeting as other Friends usually do to relieve our Poor as well Preachers as others His Charity is but a proud Pharisaical Boast But F. Bugg says He was at great Charges entertaining our Preachers I do not believe him I have answered this in my Book p. 33 34. for he writes but the same thing over and over again But he says That my Brother Giles Barnardistone would have scorned to have dipp'd his Pen in such muddy Ink as I have done Reply If my Brother had lived to see his Contentious Apostacy he would not have spared him no more than I have done the Forgery and Deceit that he hath practiced against me would have obliged him to vindicate me his so near Relation although he was very tender of F. Bugg whilst he was amongst us and had any show of Honesty he was very careful to keep his Wits