of_o the_o appendix_n show_v the_o continual_a visibility_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n your_o own_o doctor_n in_o your_o own_o house_n profess_v as_o you_o know_v the_o true_a church_n must_v be_v able_a to_o name_v professor_n in_o all_o age_n &_o make_v it_o the_o very_a ground_n of_o their_o argument_n in_o that_o dispute_n wherefore_o in_o all_o reason_n before_o you_o go_v about_o to_o answer_v the_o book_n which_o you_o receive_v of_o the_o catalogue_n of_o our_o professor_n you_o shall_v have_v give_v another_o or_o refer_v we_o to_o some_o book_n of_o a_o other_o of_o you_o and_o that_o so_o much_o the_o more_o because_o hitherto_o such_o a_o catalogue_n on_o your_o side_n have_v be_v hold_v impossible_a to_o be_v find_v make_v or_o produce_v and_o have_v be_v evermore_o demand_v and_o require_v for_o a_o hundred_o year_n together_o can_v never_o as_o yet_o be_v see_v nor_o obtain_v certain_o those_o your_o champion_n which_o be_v choose_v by_o yourself_o and_o with_o great_a expectation_n undertake_v to_o do_v it_o when_o they_o come_v to_o the_o trial_n perform_v nothing_o and_o all_o that_o they_o do_v be_v but_o cunning_o to_o avoid_v the_o question_n give_v in_o these_o express_a term_n whether_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v in_o all_o age_n visible_a especial_o in_o the_o age_n before_o luther_n and_o whether_o the_o name_n of_o such_o visible_a protestant_n in_o all_o age_n can_v be_v show_v and_o prove_v out_o of_o good_a author_n wherein_o every_o man_n may_v see_v there_o be_v nothing_o else_o demand_v but_o a_o plain_a catalogue_n or_o table_n of_o the_o name_n of_o your_o professor_n in_o all_o age_n prove_v by_o good_a author_n according_a whereunto_o they_o receive_v also_o another_o paper_n before_o the_o meeting_n which_o there_o be_v public_o read_v that_o each_o party_n shall_v produce_v their_o catalogue_n out_o of_o good_a author_n and_o then_o interchangeable_o by_o term_n defend_v they_o but_o this_o table_n or_o catalogue_n of_o the_o name_n of_o our_o professor_n seem_v a_o lion_n in_o the_o way_n of_o your_o doctor_n which_o therefore_o they_o dare_v not_o come_v near_o nor_o behold_v but_o seek_v by_o diverse_a strain_n to_o eschew_v it_o and_o to_o turn_v the_o eye_n and_o ear_n of_o the_o audience_n from_o their_o expectation_n of_o it_o as_o first_o they_o seek_v to_o make_v two_o question_n of_o the_o question_n propound_v and_o fly_v the_o latter_a part_n instead_o of_o show_v the_o visibility_n of_o their_o church_n they_o will_v have_v prove_v it_o à _fw-la priori_fw-la as_o they_o term_v it_o without_o show_v their_o visible_a pastor_n which_o be_v the_o point_n demand_v second_o they_o deride_v their_o adversary_n for_o demand_v the_o name_n of_o their_o professor_n as_o if_o they_o have_v impertinent_o call_v for_o a_o buttery_n book_n of_o the_o name_n of_o those_o that_o ever_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n irregious_o compare_v the_o history_n of_o the_o church_n wherein_o the_o name_n of_o her_o bishop_n martyr_n and_o other_o holy_a man_n be_v careful_o record_v to_o buttery_n book_n of_o name_n and_o for_o the_o same_o cause_n call_v their_o adversary_n nominal_n they_o boast_v themselves_o to_o be_v real_n as_o if_o their_o adversary_n have_v demand_v no_o man_n but_o only_a name_n of_o man_n or_o as_o if_o the_o professor_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n like_a knight_n errant_n or_o those_o of_o the_o round_a table_n have_v be_v no_o real_a man_n at_o all_o but_o only_a name_n which_o be_v asmuch_o to_o say_v as_o that_o the_o history_n of_o the_o church_n be_v mere_a fable_n three_o they_o seek_v to_o flinch_v by_o propound_v sundry_a time_n diverse_a other_o question_n to_o be_v dispute_v which_o be_v as_o it_o be_v to_o put_v up_o many_o hare_n before_o the_o hound_n thereby_o to_o conceal_v the_o kennel_n of_o that_o fox_n which_o be_v then_o hunt_v four_o they_o endeavour_v to_o divert_v the_o question_n from_o prove_v themselves_o the_o true_a church_n by_o name_v the_o visible_a professor_n thereof_o in_o all_o age_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n demand_v to_o prove_v the_o same_o by_o assume_v they_o hold_v the_o truth_n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o every_o particular_a controversy_n as_o for_o example_n in_o deny_v of_o transubstantiation_n merit_v of_o work_n and_o the_o like_a which_o be_v as_o plain_v a_o transition_n as_o if_o in_o case_n the_o question_n have_v be_v about_o transubstantiation_n their_o adversary_n shall_v have_v go_v about_o to_o prove_v it_o by_o prove_v themselves_o to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n that_o hold_v it_o for_o both_o these_o kind_n of_o proof_n by_o a_o remote_a medium_fw-la do_v evident_o transfer_v the_o question_n the_o one_o from_o a_o general_a to_o a_o particular_a point_n which_o be_v your_o doctor_n fault_n the_o other_o from_o a_o particular_a to_o a_o general_a as_o in_o the_o other_o example_n five_o be_v call_v upon_o by_o the_o hearer_n and_o especial_o by_o the_o protestant_n themselves_o which_o be_v ten_o to_o one_o and_o confide_v much_o in_o their_o own_o cause_n to_o give_v the_o name_n of_o their_o professor_n in_o all_o age_n they_o name_v only_a christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n with_o other_o one_o or_o two_o more_o of_o the_o first_o age_n alone_o which_o according_a to_o the_o question_n undertake_v they_o shall_v have_v prove_v to_o be_v protetestants_n by_o name_v protestant_n that_o succeed_v they_o in_o all_o age_n follow_v but_o seek_v evermore_o to_o avoid_v that_o rock_n they_o will_v have_v stay_v there_o and_o before_o they_o go_v any_o further_a urge_v to_o prove_v the_o professor_n of_o the_o first_o age_n to_o be_v protestant_n not_o by_o name_v their_o successor_n but_o by_o examine_v their_o doctrine_n which_o again_o have_v be_v to_o diverte_v from_o the_o matter_n and_o to_o run_v from_o the_o general_a point_n than_o in_o question_n to_o all_o particular_a controversy_n six_o therefore_o when_o none_o of_o these_o devise_n can_v satisfy_v the_o expectation_n of_o the_o hearer_n fear_v as_o it_o seem_v lest_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o question_n and_o plain_a intention_n of_o that_o meeting_n they_o shall_v have_v be_v urge_v again_o by_o the_o hearer_n to_o set_v down_o a_o full_a catalogue_n of_o all_o age_n as_o once_o before_o they_o be_v importune_v to_o do_v they_o sudden_o break_v off_o and_o so_o depart_v seaventhly_a my_o l._n of_o warwick_n imagine_v perchance_o that_o this_o proceed_v not_o so_o much_o from_o lack_n of_o ability_n as_o from_o want_n of_o due_a preparation_n on_o their_o behalf_n promise_v a_o catalogue_n within_o 2._o or_o 3._o day_n which_o though_o seek_v again_o by_o letter_n never_o yet_o appear_v eight_o the_o answerer_n themselves_o repair_v the_o next_o day_n to_o your_o own_o house_n again_o offer_v to_o deliver_v their_o catalogue_n with_o one_o hand_n so_o they_o may_v receive_v you_o with_o the_o other_o which_o another_o stand_n by_o who_o they_o also_o take_v to_o be_v a_o protestant_a minister_n affirm_v to_o be_v very_o reasonable_a and_o indifferent_a but_o you_o answer_v you_o know_v their_o mind_n for_o that_o point_n and_o that_o they_o will_v never_o do_v it_o before_o the_o name_n of_o the_o first_o age_n be_v try_v and_o so_o of_o the_o rest_n in_o order_n nine_o a_o print_a catalogue_n be_v send_v to_o yourself_o in_o particular_a hope_v it_o may_v serve_v as_o a_o engine_n to_o importune_v and_o as_o it_o be_v to_o extort_v another_o from_o you_o or_o from_o your_o doctor_n but_o all_o in_o vain_a which_o make_v many_o much_o to_o fear_v that_o this_o catalogue_n of_o your_o professor_n will_v never_o be_v produce_v and_o consequent_o that_o your_o church_n can_v possible_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o now_o no_o marvel_n if_o some_o of_o the_o hearer_n when_o they_o see_v the_o book_n of_o the_o fisher_n catch_v in_o his_o own_o net_n write_v as_o it_o be_v in_o triumph_n of_o your_o victory_n in_o that_o dispute_n compare_v it_o to_o those_o other_o puritan_n book_n which_o have_v be_v late_o print_v of_o the_o great_a victory_n of_o the_o protestant_n in_o their_o war_n against_o the_o catholics_n beyond_o the_o sea_n whereas_o in_o truth_n not_o the_o catholic_n but_o the_o protestant_n themselves_o have_v be_v always_o notorious_o vanquish_v and_o overthrow_v and_o presume_v it_o come_v forth_o from_o his_o own_o finger_n that_o have_v the_o principal_a part_n therein_o they_o spare_v not_o to_o say_v that_o it_o better_o deserve_v to_o be_v call_v the_o feat_n and_o lie_v of_o doctor_n featlye_a than_o the_o other_o title_n which_o in_o falsehood_n well_o agree_v with_o the_o book_n itself_o in_o that_o respect_n alone_o may_v just_o seem_v a_o fit_a lace_n or_o face_n for_o it_o for_o beside_o the_o sundry_a shift_n
a_o defence_n of_o the_o appendix_n or_o a_o reply_n to_o certain_a authority_n allege_v in_o answer_n to_o a_o catalogue_n of_o catholic_a professor_n call_v a_o appendix_n to_o the_o antidote_n wherein_o also_o the_o book_n fond_o entitle_v the_o fisher_n catch_v in_o his_o own_o net_n be_v censure_v and_o the_o sleight_n of_o d._n feat_o and_o d._n white_a in_o shift_v off_o the_o catalogue_n of_o their_o own_o professor_n which_o they_o undertake_v to_o show_v be_v plain_o discover_v by_o l._n d._n to_o the_o r_o t._o worshipful_a sir_n humphrey_n lind_n eccles_n 7._o v._o 30._o solummodo_fw-la hoc_fw-la inveni_fw-la quod_fw-la fecerit_fw-la deus_fw-la hominem_fw-la rectum_fw-la et_fw-la ipse_fw-la se_fw-la infinitis_fw-la miscuerit_fw-la quaestionibus_fw-la permissu_fw-la superiorum_fw-la m.dc.xxiiii_o to_o the_o right_n worshipful_a sir_n humphrey_n lind_n sir_n it_o may_v be_v you_o will_v take_v it_o unkind_o to_o see_v unaware_o yourself_o and_o your_o paper_n thus_o in_o print_n but_o i_o be_v move_v to_o do_v it_o by_o due_a consideration_n of_o that_o which_o follow_v i_o receive_v they_o not_o as_o secret_a neither_o do_v i_o think_v you_o give_v they_o to_o be_v conceal_v you_o write_v against_o a_o print_a catalogue_n of_o catholic_a professor_n whereof_o a_o dear_a friend_n of_o i_o be_v the_o author_n give_v you_o upon_o a_o former_a conference_n which_o yourself_o procure_v between_o some_o other_o of_o my_o friend_n and_o your_o doctor_n concern_v a_o protestant_a catalogue_n which_o conference_n though_o private_o intend_v be_v afterward_o victorious_o print_v wherefore_o write_v they_o as_o you_o do_v against_o such_o a_o book_n and_o upon_o such_o a_o occasion_n you_o may_v easy_o think_v they_o will_v be_v answer_v and_o it_o be_v not_o strange_a they_o shall_v come_v to_o be_v print_v as_o the_o great_a opinion_n which_o other_o have_v of_o your_o deep_a learning_n and_o your_o own_o profession_n of_o your_o great_a skill_n and_o read_n in_o the_o father_n make_v i_o diligent_o to_o peruse_v those_o authoritye_n allege_v by_o you_o so_o have_v well_o examine_v they_o i_o think_v myself_o diverse_a way_n oblige_v to_o give_v a_o large_a &_o full_a reply_n unto_o they_o and_o be_v as_o you_o be_v most_o extreme_o and_o most_o vehement_o distant_a in_o opinion_n from_o i_o no_o marvel_n if_o to_o be_v better_o understand_v i_o speak_v so_o loud_o that_o all_o the_o land_n may_v hear_v i_o and_o for_o the_o same_o cause_n you_o must_v pardon_v i_o if_o i_o rather_o choose_v to_o expose_v both_o you_o &_o myself_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o other_o then_o have_v take_v some_o little_a pain_n in_o this_o matter_n to_o make_v you_o the_o only_a judge_n of_o my_o labour_n the_o old_a master_n bug_n be_v carry_v away_o with_o ecce_fw-la in_o penetralibus_fw-la think_v to_o have_v find_v the_o messiah_n in_o your_o study_n and_o be_v whole_o transport_v with_o those_o choose_a place_n and_o select_v authority_n contain_v in_o your_o paper_n which_o tend_v to_o no_o less_o than_o the_o loss_n of_o his_o soul_n merit_v great_a compassion_n the_o like_a may_v happen_v to_o other_o which_o deserve_v prevention_n your_o own_o doctor_n have_v already_o adorn_v the_o pageant_n of_o their_o victory_n with_o the_o publication_n of_o your_o name_n unto_o you_o be_v give_v the_o drive_v on_o of_o the_o chariot_n and_o the_o old_a master_n bug_n be_v lead_v in_o triumph_n some_o perchance_o have_v be_v take_v in_o the_o net_n of_o the_o title_n and_o may_v be_v free_v again_o by_o the_o net_n of_o christ_n which_o therefore_o shall_v not_o hang_v in_o the_o river_n of_o private_a paper_n when_o the_o other_o fly_v in_o the_o air_n but_o shall_v be_v cast_v into_o the_o sea_n of_o the_o wide_a world_n to_o gather_v and_o draw_v together_o all_o kind_n of_o fish_n in_o this_o net_n the_o fisher_n themselves_o be_v happy_o take_v and_o all_o they_o that_o be_v not_o take_v be_v lose_v for_o ever_o the_o other_o of_o the_o heretic_n be_v but_o a_o net_n to_o catch_v fly_n which_o though_o cunning_o wrought_v must_v in_o time_n be_v sweep_v away_o together_o with_o the_o spider_n they_o have_v print_v against_o we_o and_o renew_v a_o old_a decree_n against_o our_o print_n if_o no_o reply_n shall_v be_v make_v some_o of_o they_o will_v think_v that_o now_o they_o may_v lie_v by_o proclamation_n what_o great_a sign_n of_o falsehood_n they_o have_v tell_v your_o own_o tale_n to_o seek_v to_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o your_o adversary_n with_o old_a statute_n but_o the_o state_n never_o intend_v to_o make_v a_o law_n against_o god_n his_o word_n will_v not_o be_v tie_v all_o prince_n shall_v serve_v it_o and_o all_o print_v press_n must_v be_v subject_a unto_o it_o therefore_o no_o marvel_n if_o the_o take_n of_o one_o press_v do_v set_v two_o more_o on_o work_n and_o that_o your_o doctor_n by_o seek_v to_o suppress_v the_o truth_n do_v press_v it_o forward_o you_o know_v then_o what_o move_v i_o to_o diwlge_v your_o paper_n give_v the_o father_n their_o due_a i_o have_v tell_v you_o your_o own_o but_o spare_o and_o if_o you_o know_v my_o hart_n you_o will_v see_v and_o confess_v that_o i_o have_v do_v it_o friendly_a believe_v and_o you_o shall_v understande_v believe_v the_o father_n and_o you_o shall_v understand_v the_o father_n he_o that_o hear_v not_o the_o visible_a universal_a church_n be_v no_o better_a than_o a_o heathen_a and_o believe_v neither_o church_n nor_o father_n but_o the_o unlearned_a not_o know_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o unstable_a forsake_v that_o which_o they_o have_v know_v as_o they_o perverte_v the_o scripture_n so_o also_o they_o prevert_v the_o father_n to_o their_o own_o damnation_n from_o the_o which_o i_o beseech_v god_n deliver_v you_o pray_v you_o likewise_o to_o think_v no_o otherwise_o of_o i_o then_o as_o of_o your_o unfaygned_a friend_n and_o servant_n in_o christ_n l._n d._n the_o authority_n allege_v by_o sir_n humphrey_n lind_n against_o the_o appendix_n of_o miracle_n epiphanius_n convince_v not_o ebion_n of_o false_a belief_n because_o neither_o he_o nor_o any_o of_o his_o faction_n have_v the_o gift_n of_o work_a miracle_n but_o because_o ebion_n liken_v himself_o to_o christ_n for_o his_o circumcision_n and_o for_o his_o birth_n and_o he_o answer_v he_o he_o can_v not_o be_v like_a to_o god_n for_o that_o he_o be_v but_o a_o mortal_a man_n and_o be_v not_o able_a to_o raise_v lazarus_n out_o of_o the_o grave_n nor_o heal_v the_o sick_a etc._n etc._n if_o he_o will_v be_v liken_v to_o christ_n he_o bid_v he_o to_o do_v those_o thing_n the_o which_o thing_n if_o he_o have_v require_v at_o epiphanius_n hand_n i_o think_v no_o man_n but_o will_v have_v doubt_v of_o the_o performance_n of_o they_o read_v the_o place_n at_o large_a and_o you_o shall_v find_v it_o have_v no_o such_o meaning_n as_o be_v here_o allege_v miracle_n be_v necessary_a before_o the_o world_n believe_v to_o induce_v it_o to_o believe_v and_o he_o that_o seek_v to_o be_v confirm_v by_o wonder_n now_o be_v to_o be_v wonder_v at_o most_o of_o all_o himself_o in_o refuse_v to_o believe_v what_o all_o the_o world_n believe_v beside_o himself_o de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la lib._n 22._o cap._n 8._o in_o principio_fw-la show_v to_o be_v falsify_v now_o we_o for_o our_o part_n say_v not_o that_o we_o must_v be_v believe_v that_o we_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n because_o optatus_n or_o ambrose_n have_v commend_v this_o wherein_o we_o be_v or_o else_o because_o that_o in_o all_o place_n of_o the_o world_n where_o our_o communion_n be_v frequent_v there_o be_v so_o many_o miracle_n wrought_v of_o heal_a disease_n etc._n etc._n for_o all_o these_o thing_n that_o be_v do_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v approve_v in_o asmuch_o as_o they_o be_v do_v in_o the_o catholic_a and_o not_o that_o it_o be_v therefore_o catholic_a because_o such_o thing_n be_v do_v there_o august_n de_fw-fr unitat_fw-la eccles_n cap._n 16._o tertullian_n they_o will_v say_v say_v he_o to_o excuse_v themselves_o for_o have_v follow_v heresy_n that_o their_o doctor_n have_v confirm_v the_o faith_n of_o their_o doctrine_n that_o they_o have_v raise_v up_o the_o dead_a restore_v the_o sick_a foretell_v thing_n to_o come_v so_o as_o they_o be_v worthy_o take_v for_o apostle_n as_o if_o say_v he_o this_o be_v not_o write_v that_o many_o shall_v come_v work_v great_a miracle_n to_o fortify_v the_o deceitfullnes_n of_o their_o corrupt_a preach_n de_fw-fr praescrip_n cap._n 44._o s._n hierome_n the_o galathian_o have_v the_o gift_n of_o healing_n and_o of_o prophecy_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v ensnare_v by_o the_o false_a prophet_n and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o power_n and_o sign_n be_v see_v to_o be_v wrought_v in_o those_o that_o
occasion_n to_o admire_v the_o little_a conscience_n of_o your_o late_a english_a doctor_n in_o challenge_v the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o five_o hundred_o year_n wherein_o if_o their_o adversary_n may_v come_v to_o a_o indifferent_a and_o equal_a trial_n with_o they_o the_o very_a title_n of_o the_o father_n book_n against_o they_o be_v sufficient_a to_o overthrow_v they_o only_o in_o this_o place_n i_o will_v give_v the_o reader_n this_o short_a notandum_fw-la for_o the_o which_o if_o he_o desire_v sincere_o to_o know_v and_o believe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n he_o shall_v have_v cause_n to_o thank_v i_o when_o any_o of_o the_o holy_a father_n do_v censure_v any_o point_n of_o doctrine_n tax_v it_o of_o heresy_n or_o note_v it_o as_o the_o particular_a opinion_n of_o some_o heretic_n or_o reprove_v it_o very_o much_o or_o wonder_v at_o it_o especial_o if_o it_o be_v such_o a_o thing_n as_o every_o learned_a man_n may_v easy_o know_v or_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v teach_v and_o that_o no_o other_o father_n do_v therein_o oppose_v himself_o against_o he_o it_o be_v a_o evident_a testimony_n that_o his_o doctrine_n therein_o be_v the_o general_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n and_o aught_o to_o be_v so_o receive_v of_o the_o age_n that_o follow_v wherefore_o the_o author_n of_o that_o book_n have_v show_v so_o many_o point_n of_o your_o doctrine_n to_o have_v be_v so_o notorious_o censure_v and_o condemn_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o first_o five_o hundred_o year_n in_o the_o hetetike_n of_o those_o time_n beside_o many_o other_o point_n and_o some_o of_o those_o also_o condemn_v by_o father_n and_o counsel_n in_o after_o age_n whereunto_o you_o have_v not_o answer_v a_o word_n it_o be_v for_o aught_o i_o can_v see_v or_o perceive_v a_o clear_a demonstration_n that_o the_o father_n of_o those_o time_n be_v they_o and_o that_o either_o your_o professor_n be_v none_o at_o all_o or_o no_o other_o than_o those_o that_o be_v condemn_v by_o they_o thus_o all_o thing_n with_o they_o be_v infallible_o certain_a easy_a to_o be_v know_v and_o most_o conspicuous_a they_o follow_v the_o stream_n and_o current_n of_o that_o doctrine_n which_o by_o many_o know_a succession_n of_o holy_a and_o learned_a man_n martyr_n and_o bishop_n as_o it_o be_v by_o so_o many_o channel_n they_o derive_v from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n they_o follow_v the_o fame_n and_o greatness_n of_o that_o church_n which_o by_o convert_n country_n and_o nation_n in_o all_o age_n be_v become_v eminent_a and_o apparent_a above_o all_o other_o sort_n of_o christian_n like_o a_o city_n upon_o a_o hill_n above_o the_o moale-hill_n or_o like_o the_o little_a stone_n in_o daniel_n which_o grow_v to_o be_v a_o mountain_n fill_v the_o world_n with_o its_o greatness_n they_o follow_v the_o security_n of_o those_o letters-patent_n which_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n have_v sign_v with_o his_o own_o seal_n and_o commend_v to_o the_o world_n by_o attestation_n of_o many_o miracle_n in_o confirmation_n of_o their_o doctrine_n and_o last_o they_o follow_v the_o infallible_a and_o powerful_a authority_n of_o that_o body_n which_o by_o censure_n of_o doctor_n &_o decree_n of_o counsel_n from_o time_n to_o time_n have_v ever_o confound_v all_o those_o that_o oppose_v themselves_o against_o it_o while_o you_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n without_o any_o lineal_a descente_n from_o those_o who_o you_o pretend_v to_o have_v be_v your_o ancestor_n without_o the_o progeny_n of_o any_o gentill_n convert_v by_o you_o without_o any_o warrant_n of_o god_n hand_n or_o sentence_n of_o his_o judge_n for_o you_o do_v still_o remain_v in_o the_o darkness_n of_o your_o invisible_a church_n toss_v in_o the_o sea_n of_o error_n with_o every_o wind_n of_o new_a doctrine_n not_o know_v certain_o who_o to_o follow_v nor_o what_o to_o believe_v until_o at_o the_o last_o even_o the_o wise_a of_o you_o be_v weary_a of_o seek_v and_o desperate_a of_o find_v that_o which_o they_o seek_v come_v to_o hold_v all_o opinion_n probable_a which_o be_v in_o effect_n to_o believe_v nothing_o good_a sir_n have_v you_o produce_v such_o a_o succession_n such_o conversion_n of_o nation_n such_o miracle_n and_o censure_n in_o the_o defence_n of_o your_o church_n as_o that_o book_n have_v show_v in_o confirmation_n of_o they_o all_o zealous_a protestant_n have_v be_v bind_v to_o have_v fall_v at_o your_o foot_n and_o to_o have_v honour_v you_o for_o ever_o but_o now_o on_o the_o other_o side_n against_o such_o weighty_a and_o massy_a matter_n such_o clear_a and_o convince_a proof_n as_o these_o not_o be_v able_a to_o give_v in_o evidence_n so_o much_o as_o one_o professor_n in_o every_o age_n nor_o in_o any_o age_n the_o conversion_n of_o any_o nation_n or_o the_o testimony_n of_o any_o miracle_n or_o the_o censure_n of_o any_o one_o father_n in_o favour_n of_o your_o religion_n who_o see_v not_o that_o instead_o of_o reason_n there_o be_v nothing_o but_o passion_n on_o your_o part_n and_o certain_o for_o the_o honour_n of_o your_o cause_n it_o be_v better_a to_o hold_v your_o peace_n then_o reply_v so_o weak_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o such_o importance_n for_o beside_o all_o that_o have_v be_v say_v against_o many_o other_o most_o express_a sentence_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o those_o very_a point_n which_o you_o have_v choose_v to_o touch_v you_o have_v only_o produce_v a_o few_o dribble_a authority_n as_o it_o be_v on_o the_o buy_v some_o false_o translate_v and_o some_o false_o cite_v and_o some_o in_o respect_n of_o other_o express_a word_n against_o you_o plain_o falsify_v that_o not_o to_o accuse_v you_o of_o a_o bad_a conscience_n though_o you_o make_v profession_n to_o be_v much_o verse_v in_o the_o father_n yet_o the_o reader_n must_v needs_o think_v you_o never_o see_v or_o read_v so_o much_o as_o those_o few_o place_n which_o yourself_o have_v cite_v but_o only_o take_v they_o by_o retail_v from_o other_o and_o howsoever_o though_o they_o be_v admit_v and_o take_v as_o you_o give_v they_o up_o yet_o in_o my_o poor_a opinion_n they_o either_o touch_v not_o your_o adversary_n at_o all_o or_o be_v a_o little_a consider_v make_v rather_o with_o they_o then_o against_o they_o which_o show_v great_a want_n of_o judgement_n in_o you_o and_o i_o very_o think_v if_o you_o will_v be_v please_v to_o examine_v they_o with_o i_o i_o shall_v make_v you_o see_v it_o wherefore_o as_o in_o the_o former_a section_n so_o that_o you_o may_v know_v in_o this_o also_o how_o far_o you_o be_v chargeable_a i_o give_v you_o the_o sum_n of_o your_o account_n in_o this_o manner_n the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o church_n which_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o five_o hundred_o year_n be_v condemn_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n but_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v condemn_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o 500_o year_n as_o the_o most_o and_o best_a learned_a protestant_n themselves_n have_v also_o confess_v ergo_fw-la the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v likewise_o condemn_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n section_n v._o miracle_n defend_v to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a testimony_n of_o truth_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n therein_o declare_v wherefore_o to_o begin_v as_o you_o do_v with_o miracle_n most_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o no_o true_a miracle_n can_v be_v wrought_v but_o only_o by_o he_o qui_fw-la facit_fw-la mirabilia_fw-la magna_fw-la solus_fw-la and_o therefore_o whensoever_o any_o true_a miracle_n be_v show_v or_o sufficient_o testify_v unto_o we_o in_o confirmation_n of_o any_o point_n of_o doctrine_n it_o be_v a_o evident_a proof_n of_o the_o truth_n thereof_o for_o a_o miracle_n in_o that_o case_n be_v the_o testimony_n of_o god_n who_o speak_v by_o work_n as_o man_n by_o word_n say_v s._n aug._n epist_n 49._o quaest_n 6._o and_o be_v the_o subscription_n as_o it_o be_v of_o his_o hand_n and_o seal_v unto_o it_o and_o certain_o if_o miracle_n be_v no_o sufficient_a proof_n of_o true_a doctrine_n they_o will_v never_o have_v be_v call_v sign_n and_o testimony_n in_o holy_a scripture_n god_n will_v not_o have_v give_v moses_n power_n of_o work_a miracle_n exod._n 4._o that_o the_o people_n of_o israel_n may_v believe_v he_o have_v appear_v unto_o he_o our_o saviour_n will_v not_o have_v say_v the_o jew_n have_v not_o sin_v in_o not_o receive_v he_o if_o he_o have_v not_o do_v those_o work_n which_o no_o man_n else_o have_v do_v before_o he_o joan._n 15._o and_o in_o vain_a shall_v he_o have_v promise_v that_o sign_n shall_v follow_v those_o that_o believe_v and_o have_v cooperate_v and_o confirm_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n by_o they_o neither_o can_v he_o in_o justice_n have_v command_v the_o world_n
seek_v to_o be_v confirm_v by_o wonder_n now_o be_v himself_o to_o be_v wonder_v at_o in_o refuse_v to_o believe_v that_o which_o all_o the_o world_n or_o the_o visible_a catholic_a church_n through_o the_o world_n believe_v which_o be_v well_o consider_v make_v little_a for_o you_o in_o that_o very_a place_n i_o say_v you_o can_v not_o choose_v but_o read_v these_o other_o word_n direct_o against_o you_o that_o now_o also_o miracle_n be_v wrought_v in_o his_o name_n either_o by_o his_o sacrament_n or_o by_o the_o prayer_n and_o memory_n of_o his_o saint_n together_o with_o the_o relation_n of_o many_o miracle_n do_v in_o his_o own_o time_n and_o of_o those_o in_o particular_a wrought_v by_o the_o relic_n of_o s._n stephen_n which_o though_o not_o necessary_a after_o the_o world_n have_v once_o believe_v as_o s._n austen_n there_o dispute_v yet_o god_n in_o his_o mercy_n have_v ever_o show_v they_o in_o all_o age_n as_o well_o to_o confound_v the_o obstinate_a that_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o visible_a universal_a church_n as_o also_o to_o confirm_v those_o in_o their_o faith_n that_o already_o believe_v in_o this_o place_n therefore_o you_o have_v plain_o falsify_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o author_n either_o very_o fraudulent_o or_o very_o ignorant_o choose_v you_o whether_o section_n vi_o merit_n of_o work_n defend_v according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n and_o sir_n humphrey_n answer_v in_o the_o next_o place_n against_o the_o merit_n of_o work_n you_o object_n many_o place_n of_o the_o father_n but_o none_o to_o the_o purpose_n you_o know_v full_a well_o that_o the_o catholic_n distinguish_v between_o work_n that_o go_v before_o faith_n &_o work_n that_o follow_v work_n go_v before_o faith_n and_o proceed_v only_o from_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n or_o from_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n call_v therefore_o by_o s._n paul_n rom._n 3._o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n your_o adversary_n do_v all_o hold_v neither_o to_o save_v nor_o to_o be_v needful_a to_o saluatio_fw-la according_o whereunto_o s._n paul_n also_o say_v that_o a_o man_n be_v justify_v by_o faith_n without_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n but_o that_o work_v follow_v a_o lively_a faith_n form_v with_o charity_n and_o proceed_v from_o it_o do_v justify_v and_o be_v needful_a to_o salvation_n your_o adversary_n prove_v not_o only_o by_o express_a scripture_n james_n cap._n 2._o you_o see_v then_o how_o that_o of_o work_n a_o man_n be_v justify_v and_o not_o of_o faith_n only_o but_o also_o by_o the_o like_a testimony_n of_o all_o the_o holy_a father_n note_v and_o condemn_v the_o contrary_a opinion_n of_o the_o protestant_n as_o heretical_a in_o simon_n magus_n in_o the_o gnosticke_n and_o in_o eunomius_n as_o have_v be_v show_v and_o further_o he_o allege_v s._n aug._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o oper_n cap._n 14._o testifi_v of_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o that_o because_o this_o opinion_n of_o faith_n only_o spring_v up_o in_o those_o day_n by_o pervert_v the_o word_n of_o s._n paul_n epistle_n before_o relate_v the_o epistle_n of_o s._n peter_n s._n john_n s._n james_n and_o s._n jude_n be_v principal_o write_v ut_fw-la uchementer_fw-la astruant_fw-la vehement_o to_o urge_v and_o contest_v that_o faith_n without_o work_n do_v profit_v nothing_o against_o all_o which_o manifest_a proof_n you_o bring_v only_o some_o authoritye_n of_o the_o father_n show_v that_o our_o own_o work_n and_o righteousness_n as_o basil_n hom_n de_fw-fr humil._n or_o work_v of_o the_o law_n go_v before_o faith_n as_o s._n chrysos_n with_o s._n paul_n hom._n 7._o in_o 3._o ad_fw-la rom._n and_o before_o sin_n pardon_v as_o s._n ambrose_n and_o forgive_v as_o theodoret_n comment_n 2._o s._n bernard_n in_o cant._n ser._n 22._o do_v not_o justify_v but_o only_a faith_n without_o they_o which_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n because_o therein_o your_o adversary_n agree_v with_o you_o but_o you_o bring_v not_o a_o word_n to_o prove_v that_o work_v follow_v faith_n do_v not_o justify_v nor_o be_v needful_a to_o salvation_n which_o opinion_n of_o you_o your_o adversary_n have_v show_v to_o have_v be_v often_o time_n condemn_v by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o &_o by_o the_o ancient_a father_n in_o other_o heretic_n that_o have_v go_v before_o you_o section_n vii_o freewill_n defend_v and_o sir_n humphrey_n answer_v in_o the_o controversy_n of_o freewill_n you_o seem_v first_o to_o suppose_v your_o adversary_n believe_v that_o man_n have_v freewill_n to_o perform_v supernatural_a act_n and_o work_n of_o piety_n without_o grace_n and_o then_o you_o proceed_v to_o dispute_v against_o they_o how_o can_v you_o imagine_v they_o be_v so_o absurd_a as_o to_o think_v by_o the_o power_n of_o nature_n alone_o to_o do_v that_o which_o they_o themselve_v confess_v to_o be_v above_o the_o power_n of_o nature_n wherein_o there_o appear_v not_o only_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o passion_n in_o you_o which_o hang_v like_a to_o a_o cloud_n between_o the_o eye_n of_o your_o mind_n and_o the_o light_n of_o truth_n but_o also_o as_o it_o seem_v great_a want_n of_o conscience_n for_o you_o know_v they_o hold_v that_o without_o grace_n it_o be_v impossible_a either_o to_o believe_v or_o to_o do_v any_o other_o act_n which_o may_v avayle_v or_o so_o much_o as_o dispose_v to_o salvation_n this_o also_o you_o know_v to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o bellarmine_n every_o where_o in_o that_o whole_a book_n out_o of_o which_o you_o seem_v to_o cite_v his_o word_n in_o a_o contrary_a sense_n and_o the_o word_n that_o immediate_o follow_v in_o the_o very_a place_n you_o cite_v do_v plain_o show_v that_o against_o your_o conscience_n you_o falsify_v his_o meaning_n his_o word_n be_v these_o a_o man_n before_o all_o grace_n have_v freewill_n not_o only_o to_o natural_a and_o moral_a work_n but_o also_o to_o work_n of_o piety_n and_o supernatural_a as_o you_o faithful_o cite_v they_o but_o than_o it_o follow_v thus_o s._n augustine_n teach_v l._n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la &_o litera_fw-la cap._n 33._o where_o he_o say_v that_o freewill_n be_v a_o natural_a and_o middle_a power_n which_o may_v be_v incline_v to_o faith_n and_o infidelity_n thus_o bellarmine_n whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_v his_o meaning_n to_o be_v that_o by_o grace_n freewill_n be_v not_o make_v or_o give_v unto_o we_o but_o that_o we_o have_v the_o power_n thereof_o by_o nature_n which_o afterward_o by_o grace_n be_v incline_v and_o strengthen_v to_o do_v those_o thing_n which_o by_o the_o force_n of_o nature_n without_o grace_n we_o be_v not_o able_a so_o much_o as_o to_o will_n or_o to_o think_v much_o less_o to_o perform_v or_o perfect_v according_a whereunto_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o cit_v also_o s._n august_n de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la cap._n 5._o teach_v that_o the_o posse_fw-la or_o power_n to_o have_v faith_n and_o charity_n be_v in_o man_n by_o nature_n and_o in_o the_o same_o book_n cap._n 11._o he_o allege_v s._n augustine_n again_o epist_n 49._o quaest_n 2._o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n say_v freewill_n be_v not_o take_v away_o because_o it_o be_v holpen_v by_o grace_n but_o because_o it_o be_v holpen_v therefore_o it_o be_v not_o take_v away_o if_o it_o be_v give_v by_o nature_n and_o not_o take_v away_o by_o grace_n most_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o still_o we_o have_v it_o in_o this_o sense_n therefore_o your_o adversary_n not_o only_o affirm_v that_o we_o have_v freewill_n by_o nature_n but_o also_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v so_o excite_a and_o strengthen_v by_o grace_n as_o we_o can_v so_o much_o as_o think_v much_o less_o accomplish_v or_o perform_v any_o supernatural_a act_n without_o it_o they_o will_v easy_o grant_v with_o s._n basil_n con_v de_fw-fr hum._n that_o we_o owe_v all_o even_o that_o we_o live_v to_o the_o grace_n and_o gift_n of_o god_n but_o that_o you_o false_o translate_v it_o they_o grant_v with_o s._n bernard_n de_fw-fr gratia_n &_o lib._n arbit_n that_o to_o will_v good_a be_v a_o gift_n of_o grace_n and_o with_o s._n augustine_n that_o it_o be_v god_n who_o make_v that_o we_o work_v by_o add_v to_o our_o will_n most_o efficacious_a strength_n that_o unless_o he_o make_v we_o willing_a and_o then_o work_v with_o we_o we_o shall_v never_o bring_v to_o pass_v any_o good_a work_n and_o again_o with_o s._n augustine_n the_o correp_n &_o great_a cap._n 1._o that_o though_o we_o have_v freewill_n to_o do_v good_a yet_o none_o can_v be_v free_a in_o will_n and_o act_n to_o do_v it_o that_o be_v to_o say_v perfect_o or_o in_o actu_fw-la secundo_fw-la as_o the_o scholman_n speak_v unless_o he_o be_v free_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o again_o that_o all_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o god_n not_o the_o first_o part_n unto_o ourselves_o &_o the_o rest_n unto_o god_n as_o the_o pelagian_o
indeed_o be_v horrible_a and_o will_v profit_v nothing_o but_o we_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o be_v live_a flesh_n vegetate_v with_o his_o spirit_n which_o be_v christ_n himself_o entire_o as_o he_o be_v now_o in_o heaven_n tract_n 27._o in_o joan._n &_o 63_o that_o no_o man_n eat_v that_o flesh_n before_o he_o adore_v it_o in_o psalm_n 93._o that_o the_o rich_a man_n of_o this_o world_n come_v to_o the_o table_n of_o christ_n do_v receive_v his_o body_n and_o blood_n which_o though_o they_o adore_v yet_o be_v not_o fill_v with_o it_o because_o they_o do_v not_o imitate_v it_o eat_v he_o that_o be_v poor_a but_o contemn_v poverty_n epist._n 120._o ad_fw-la honoratum_fw-la that_o the_o apostle_n do_v eat_v the_o bread_n which_o be_v their_o lord_n panem_fw-la dominum_fw-la though_o judas_n do_v eat_v but_o the_o bread_n of_o our_o lord_n panem_fw-la domini_fw-la tract_n 59_o in_o joan._n for_o our_o saviour_n be_v not_o true_o his_o lord_n because_o judas_n be_v not_o true_o his_o servant_n and_o if_o at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n he_o shall_v say_v domine_fw-la domine_fw-la our_o lord_n will_v answer_v i_o know_v thou_o not_o protestant_n may_v well_o say_v with_o judas_n that_o they_o eat_v the_o bread_n of_o our_o lord_n if_o our_o lord_n do_v ordain_v it_o to_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o his_o body_n but_o they_o can_v say_v with_o the_o apostle_n that_o they_o eat_v the_o bread_n which_o be_v their_o lord_n because_o they_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v their_o lord_n body_n that_o judas_n iscariot_n receive_v that_o say_v he_o which_o the_o faithful_a know_v the_o price_n of_o our_o redemption_n epist._n 162._o ad_fw-la glor._n that_o our_o saviour_n do_v literal_o bear_v himself_o in_o his_o own_o hand_n when_o he_o give_v it_o conc._n 1._o in_o psalm_n 33._o that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v proper_o priest_n de_fw-fr civit_n dei_fw-la lib._n 20._o cap._n 10._o which_o do_v infer_v that_o proper_o also_o there_o be_v priest_n and_o sacrifice_n &_o that_o christian_a priest_n do_v proper_o offer_v sacrifice_n upon_o altar_n wherefore_o make_v often_o mention_v of_o mass_n serm._n 91._o de_fw-fr tempore_fw-la &_o serm._n 251._o he_o say_v likewise_o that_o our_o saviour_n change_v the_o sacrifice_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o aaron_n and_o do_v institute_v a_o sacrifice_n of_o his_o own_o body_n and_o blood_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedech_n in_o psalm_n 32._o &_o in_o psalm_n 39_o &_o lib._n 17._o the_o civit_n dei_fw-la cap._n 20._o that_o he_o pray_v god_n to_o give_v he_o contrition_n &_o a_o fountain_n of_o tear_n when_o he_o assist_v at_o the_o holy_a altar_n to_o offer_v that_o marvelous_a &_o heavenly_a sacrifice_n which_o christ_n the_o immaculate_a priest_n do_v institute_v and_o command_v to_o be_v offer_v in_o manuali_fw-la that_o a_o priest_n of_o his_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o a_o house_n infest_a with_o wicked_a spirit_n which_o be_v thereby_o free_v lib._n 22._o de_fw-fr ciu._n dei_fw-la cap._n 8._o that_o he_o desire_v all_o priest_n who_o he_o call_v his_o brother_n and_o his_o master_n who_o shall_v read_v his_o book_n of_o confession_n to_o remember_v his_o mother_n at_o the_o altar_n where_o the_o also_o desire_v to_o be_v remember_v after_o her_o death_n lib_n 9_o confess_v cap._n 13._o that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v the_o dead_a be_v holpen_v thereby_o because_o the_o universal_a church_n receive_v it_o from_o the_o father_n observe_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v offer_v for_o those_o who_o depart_v this_o life_n in_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n body_n serm._n 32._o de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la apostoli_fw-la he_o reckon_v it_o among_o the_o heresy_n of_o aerius_n that_o he_o deny_v oblation_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a haer._n 53._o can_v any_o catholic_a at_o this_o day_n or_o bellarmine_n himself_o if_o he_o be_v now_o alive_a more_o full_o declare_v his_o own_o doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n and_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n then_o do_v s._n augustine_n against_o you_o though_o in_o other_o thing_n you_o may_v retain_v some_o difficulty_n yet_o in_o this_o i_o think_v you_o shall_v free_o acknowledge_v that_o you_o be_v whole_o convince_v final_o upon_o leviticus_fw-la quaest_n 57_o in_o the_o very_a place_n which_o yourself_o have_v cite_v where_o there_o be_v nothing_o that_o may_v find_v for_o you_o but_o only_o that_o the_o figure_n be_v sometime_o say_v to_o be_v the_o thing_n figure_v which_o as_o i_o take_v it_o be_v only_o in_o those_o case_n where_o it_o be_v know_v and_o presuppose_v to_o be_v a_o figure_n he_o demand_v why_o the_o people_n shall_v be_v so_o much_o forbid_v from_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o old_a law_n when_o as_o none_o be_v forbid_v to_o take_v for_o their_o nourishment_n the_o blood_n of_o this_o one_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o all_o the_o former_a but_o all_o that_o desire_a life_n be_v rather_o exhort_v to_o drink_v it_o now_o therefore_o hereupon_o may_v not_o your_o adversary_n deep_o charge_v you_o that_o you_o have_v egregious_o abuse_v s._n augustine_n and_o plain_o pervert_v his_o meaning_n section_n x._o s._n ambrose_n false_o allege_v by_o sir_n humphrey_n against_o the_o real_a presence_n let_v we_o now_o come_v to_o s._n ambrose_n who_o convert_v s._n augustine_n that_o we_o may_v see_v how_o the_o master_n &_o the_o scholar_n agree_v together_o he_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o mass_n and_o that_o himself_o say_v mass_n epist_n ad_fw-la sororem_fw-la marcellinam_fw-la he_o repeat_v a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o mass_n which_o be_v now_o use_v we_o offer_v unto_o thou_o this_o immaculate_a host_n this_o reasonable_a host_n this_o unbloody_a host_n this_o holy_a bread_n and_o cup_n of_o life_n everlasting_a etc._n etc._n and_o we_o pray_v thou_o to_o receive_v this_o oblation_n as_o thou_o do_v vouchsafe_v to_o receive_v the_o gift_n of_o thy_o servant_n abel_n the_o just_a and_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o great_a father_n abraham_n and_o that_o which_o the_o high_a priest_n melchisedech_n do_v offer_v unto_o thou_o lib._n 4._o de_fw-la sacramentis_fw-la cap._n 6._o he_o say_v we_o daily_o adore_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o mass_n or_o sacrifice_n lib._n 3._o the_o spirit_n sanct._n cap._n 12._o he_o make_v his_o prayer_n unto_o that_o bread_n to_o heal_v his_o infirmity_n to_o come_v into_o his_o hart_n to_o cleanse_v both_o his_o flesh_n and_o his_o spirit_n from_o all_o that_o defile_v in_o his_o prayer_n preparatory_a before_o mass_n and_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr mysterijs_fw-la init_fw-la cap._n 9_o he_o object_v in_o this_o manner_n perchance_o thou_o will_v say_v i_o see_v another_o thing_n how_o do_v thou_o affirm_v unto_o i_o that_o i_o receive_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n whereunto_o he_o answer_v how_o many_o example_n have_v we_o to_o prove_v it_o not_o to_o be_v that_o which_o nature_n have_v form_v but_o that_o which_o benediction_n have_v consecrate_v and_o that_o benediction_n be_v of_o great_a power_n than_o nature_n because_o by_o it_o even_o nature_n itself_o be_v change_v and_o then_o declare_v many_o miracle_n wrought_v by_o moses_n helias_n and_o helizaeus_n he_o conclude_v if_o human_a benediction_n be_v able_a to_o change_v nature_n what_o shall_v we_o say_v of_o divine_a consecration_n if_o the_o speech_n of_o helias_n be_v able_a to_o bring_v fire_n from_o the_o heaven_n shall_v not_o the_o speech_n of_o christ_n be_v able_a to_o change_v the_o form_n of_o the_o element_n if_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n be_v able_a to_o make_v of_o nothing_o that_o which_o be_v not_o can_v it_o not_o change_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v into_o that_o which_o they_o be_v not_o for_o it_o be_v no_o less_o matter_n to_o give_v new_a nature_n unto_o thing_n then_o to_o change_v their_o nature_n and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o a_o virgin_n bring_v forth_o against_o the_o ordinary_a course_n of_o nature_n and_o the_o body_n which_o we_o priest_n do_v make_v be_v of_o the_o virgin_n what_o do_v thou_o require_v the_o order_n of_o nature_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v bear_v of_o a_o virgin_n against_o the_o order_n of_o nature_n can_v the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n or_o change_v of_o nature_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v more_o avouch_v or_o better_o prove_v by_o any_o modern_a papist_n who_o likewise_o lib._n 6._o de_fw-fr sacram._n cap._n 1._o think_v it_o no_o blasphemy_n to_o say_v as_o he_o do_v that_o as_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n be_v the_o true_a son_n of_o god_n not_o as_o man_n by_o grace_n or_o by_o faith_n but_o
and_o slight_n of_o the_o doctor_n contain_v in_o it_o they_o accuse_v it_o also_o of_o many_o gross_a untruth_n without_o end_n or_o number_n in_o relate_v thing_n out_o of_o due_a place_n and_o order_n to_o their_o own_o advantage_n in_o daub_v and_o amplify_a the_o speech_n of_o d._n feat_o with_o much_o addition_n and_o substraction_n of_o matter_n as_o for_o example_n 1._o that_o m._n bug_n the_o old_a gentleman_n who_o first_o desire_v the_o former_a dispute_n be_v sick_a and_o solicit_v in_o his_o sickness_n by_o some_o papist_n about_o he_o to_o forsake_v his_o religion_n and_o that_o it_o be_v fear_v he_o will_v have_v fall_v from_o his_o faith_n if_o he_o have_v not_o recover_v of_o his_o sickness_n which_o be_v altogether_o false_a 2._o that_o he_o be_v much_o confirm_v in_o his_o religion_n by_o hear_v the_o former_a disputation_n which_o unless_o he_o do_v extreme_o forget_v himself_o have_v often_o say_v the_o contrary_a be_v also_o false_a 3._o that_o you_o sir_n humphrey_n find_v m._n fisher_n by_o chance_n in_o drury_n lane_n whereas_o you_o know_v you_o come_v of_o purpose_n to_o offer_v he_o a_o friendly_a conference_n with_o d._n white_n 4._o that_o m._n fisher_n have_v write_v the_o question_n add_v under_o his_o own_o hand_n he_o will_v answer_v upon_o it_o negative_o as_o challenge_v and_o expect_v opposer_n which_o be_v false_a for_o he_o be_v first_o ask_v by_o yourself_o whether_o he_o will_v oppose_v or_o answer_v whereupon_o he_o write_v he_o will_v answer_v 5._o that_o you_o sir_n humphrey_n tell_v m._n bug_n if_o m._n fisher_n will_v come_v with_o four_o or_o six_o at_o the_o most_o they_o shall_v be_v admit_v for_o his_o sake_n whereas_o it_o be_v express_o agree_v on_o that_o d._n white_a and_o m._n fisher_n shall_v only_o bring_v a_o assistant_n four_o witness_n and_o a_o writer_n and_o no_o more_o with_o each_o of_o they_o and_o that_o the_o matter_n shall_v be_v keep_v secret_a thereby_o to_o make_v the_o meeting_n very_o private_a which_o m._n fisher_n due_o observe_v but_o when_o he_o come_v he_o find_v the_o house_n full_a of_o protestant_n contrary_a to_o former_a agreement_n 6._o that_o d._n white_a and_o d._n feat_o be_v invite_v by_o you_o to_o dinner_n and_o stay_v a_o while_n after_o dinner_n have_v notice_n give_v they_o as_o it_o be_v by_o chance_n that_o some_o jesuit_n be_v in_o the_o next_o room_n ready_a to_o confer_v with_o they_o and_o that_o the_o doctor_n be_v at_o last_o persuade_v to_o have_v some_o conference_n with_o they_o as_o if_o forsooth_o they_o have_v never_o hear_v of_o the_o meeting_n before_o when_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o some_o day_n before_o d._n white_n have_v receive_v the_o question_n and_o undertake_v to_o oppose_v against_o it_o though_o afterward_o for_o more_o security_n he_o use_v d._n feat_o for_o his_o champion_n and_o both_o of_o they_o come_v thither_o of_o purpose_n to_o make_v good_a the_o former_a challenge_n 7._o the_o question_n be_v false_o and_o sophistical_o print_v by_o put_v into_o the_o midst_n thereof_o the_o figure_n of_o 2_o in_o favour_n of_o the_o opposer_n who_o seek_v to_o make_v it_o a_o double_a question_n 8._o before_o the_o disputation_n begin_v d._n feat_o have_v propound_v many_o other_o point_n of_o controversy_n to_o divert_v the_o question_n that_o m._n sweet_a shall_v answer_v they_o be_v scholastical_a point_n not_o fundamental_a which_o be_v not_o so_o only_o he_o affirm_v they_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n which_o he_o be_v move_v the_o rather_o to_o say_v because_o a_o little_a before_o he_o have_v desire_v two_o thing_n of_o the_o auditory_a 1._o that_o all_o bitter_a speech_n may_v be_v forbear_v and_o 2._o that_o nothing_o may_v be_v hear_v or_o speak_v which_o be_v beside_o the_o question_n 9_o that_o m._n fisher_n be_v charge_v to_o have_v slander_v doctor_n white_a in_o a_o former_a conference_n answer_v nothing_o which_o be_v false_a for_o he_o stand_v up_o and_o solemn_o protest_v upon_o his_o conscience_n that_o he_o never_o slander_v he_o 10._o and_o again_o that_o be_v charge_v to_o answer_v upon_o his_o conscience_n whether_o he_o believe_v christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n teach_v the_o protestant_a faith_n he_o refuse_v to_o answer_v which_o be_v mere_o false_a it_o be_v true_a that_o d._n feat_o before_o he_o begin_v to_o dispute_v conjure_v m._n fisher_n after_o a_o insolent_a manner_n to_o answer_v according_a to_o his_o conscience_n which_o m._n fisher_n accept_v and_o wish_v he_o to_o do_v the_o like_a i_o omit_v many_o other_o such_o feat_n which_o the_o hearer_n when_o they_o read_v affirm_v to_o be_v plain_a lie_n from_o who_o soever_o they_o proceed_v if_o the_o doctor_n according_a to_o their_o undertake_n have_v give_v a_o sufficient_a and_o full_a catalogue_n of_o their_o professor_n in_o all_o age_n the_o fisher_n have_v be_v take_v indeed_o in_o his_o own_o net_n and_o catch_v in_o the_o question_n which_o himself_o propound_v but_o contrary_o have_v take_v more_o upon_o they_o than_o they_o be_v able_a to_o perform_v and_o not_o be_v able_a to_o set_v down_o the_o catalogue_n which_o according_a to_o the_o issue_n of_o the_o question_n be_v then_o expect_v the_o doctor_n themselves_o be_v manifest_o take_v in_o the_o net_n of_o the_o fisher_n wherein_o by_o profess_v as_o they_o do_v that_o the_o true_a church_n must_v be_v able_a to_o name_n professor_n in_o all_o age_n they_o have_v so_o entangle_v themselves_o that_o howsoever_o they_o may_v dance_v in_o this_o net_n to_o their_o own_o shame_n and_o confusion_n they_o can_v never_o get_v out_o until_o they_o name_v they_o and_o now_o to_o come_v home_o again_o to_o yourself_o endeavour_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n as_o you_o do_v to_o overthrow_v the_o succession_n of_o their_o church_n and_o not_o be_v able_a to_o show_v another_o of_o you_o what_o do_v you_o get_v or_o what_o do_v you_o seek_v thereby_o but_o only_o the_o ruin_n and_o demolishment_n both_o of_o your_o church_n and_o they_o leave_v no_o true_a church_n upon_o the_o earth_n which_o can_v subsist_v without_o a_o visible_a succession_n of_o professor_n to_o be_v name_v in_o all_o age_n as_o you_o and_o your_o doctor_n have_v urge_v and_o by_o consequence_n for_o want_v of_o such_o a_o visible_a church_n you_o leave_v no_o true_a faith_n at_o all_o nor_o true_a religion_n in_o the_o world_n and_o who_o be_v a_o natural_a but_o he_o that_o deny_v it_o wherefore_o to_o conclude_v this_o section_n your_o doctor_n with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o noise_n have_v fill_v the_o air_n with_o nothing_o but_o smoke_n if_o now_o their_o adversary_n shall_v turn_v their_o own_o ordinance_n against_o they_o and_o reason_n thus_o it_o be_v not_o your_o valour_n that_o will_v be_v able_a to_o defend_v they_o the_o church_n that_o be_v catholic_a as_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v or_o the_o church_n who_o faith_n be_v eternal_a or_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n must_v be_v able_a to_o name_v successor_n in_o all_o age_n but_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v not_o able_a to_o name_v the_o professor_n of_o their_o faith_n nor_o the_o successor_n therein_o to_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n in_o all_o age_n ergo_fw-la the_o protestant_a church_n be_v not_o catholic_a as_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v nor_o the_o church_n who_o faith_n be_v eternal_a nor_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n the_o mayor_n be_v their_o own_o and_o public_o produce_v by_o they_o the_o minor_a can_v be_v deny_v until_o the_o name_n be_v show_v wherefore_o until_o this_o fort_n be_v build_v how_o can_v you_o defend_v they_o or_o where_o will_v you_o hide_v they_o from_o the_o power_n of_o this_o gun-shot_n and_o yet_o as_o this_o work_n be_v plain_o impossible_a to_o be_v raise_v or_o perform_v so_o it_o be_v no_o less_o impossible_a that_o the_o protestant_n shall_v be_v find_v the_o true_a church_n &_o by_o consequence_n that_o any_o may_v be_v save_v remain_v in_o it_o section_n ii_o in_o reference_n to_o a_o second_o point_n of_o the_o appendix_n show_v their_o conversion_n in_o all_o age_n have_v you_o give_v we_o such_o another_o catalogue_n of_o your_o professor_n as_o you_o receive_v of_o they_o to_o make_v your_o party_n good_a against_o they_o you_o shall_v have_v show_v the_o like_a conversion_n of_o heathen_a nation_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n by_o your_o minister_n in_o all_o age_n as_o that_o book_n have_v show_v by_o their_o apostolical_a preacher_n and_o that_o especial_o after_o those_o time_n wherein_o you_o pretend_v their_o church_n be_v fall_v and_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n be_v depart_v from_o they_o as_o for_o example_n in_o the_o three_o age_n be_v convert_v donaldus_n king_n of_o scotland_n his_o wife_n child_n and_o nobility_n the_o court_n of_o