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that_o confession_n be_v of_o christ_n institution_n and_o not_o upon_o any_o positive_a law_n in_o hac_fw-la distinctione_n &_o in_o aliis_fw-la duabus_fw-la sequentibus_fw-la agitur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d de_fw-la illa_fw-la parte_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la que_fw-la dicitur_fw-la oris_fw-la confessio_fw-la &_o operis_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la quà m_fw-la de_fw-la aliis_fw-la &_o ider_v videndum_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d oris_fw-la confessio_fw-la fuerit_fw-la instituta_fw-la virum_fw-la necessaria_fw-la sit_fw-la vel_fw-la 〈◊〉_d voluntaria_fw-la qualiter_fw-la sit_fw-la facienda_fw-la &_o cvi_fw-la et_fw-la quando_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quidam_fw-la institutam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la in_o paradiso_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d peccatum_fw-la dicente_fw-la donino_n ad_fw-la adam_n adam_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ideo_fw-la enim_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ut_fw-la ipso_fw-la conficente_fw-la peccatum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d sorma_fw-la aliis_fw-la in_o posterum_fw-la confitendi_fw-la sed_fw-la quoniam_fw-la in_o ille_fw-la interrogatione_fw-la dominus_fw-la 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