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A15134 An examination of M. Doctor VVhytgiftes censures, contained in tvvo tables, sett before his booke, entituled The defence of the aunswer to the admonition, &c.; Examination of M. Doctor Whytgiftes censures, contained in two tables, sett before his booke, entituled The defence of the aunswer to the admonition, &c. Fulke, William, 1538-1589, attributed name. 1575 (1575) STC 25433; ESTC S119896 42,859 56

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a_o palpable_a error_n pag._n 532._o and_o pag._n 604._o he_o affirm_v direct_o to_o the_o contrary_n 12_o the_o twelve_o be_v call_v a_o palpable_a error_n but_o if_o i_o may_v say_v as_o i_o think_v the_o censure_n be_v a_o palpable_a cavil_n for_o t._n c._n have_v these_o very_a word_n ●her_o ●he_n speak_v of_o this_o matter_n able_a enough_o to_o express_v his_o meaning_n i_o speak_v of_o those_o which_o be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o discretion_n to_o examine_v themselves_o m.d_o will_v make_v he_o contrary_a to_o himself_o because_o he_o say_v in_o another_o place_n that_o papist_n and_o excommunicate_a person_n must_v be_v compel_v by_o the_o magistrate_n to_o hear_v sermon_n and_o yet_o not_o admit_v to_o the_o communion_n so_o that_o by_o his_o censure_n these_o be_v two_o assertion_n direct_o contrary_a on_o to_o the_o other_o such_o as_o be_v of_o the_o church_n may_v as_o well_o offer_v themselves_o to_o the_o communion_n as_o to_o the_o prayer_n and_o hear_v of_o 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more_o to_o anababaptistrie_n than_o the_o assertion_n of_o iho●_n whitgift_n to_o papistry_n 15_o he_o doubt_v whether_o he_o may_v call_v he_o minister_v or_o no_o that_o can_v not_o preach_v which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d with_o his_o former_a 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o minister_n be_v if_o the_o be_v of_o the_o sacrament_n it_o will_v fall_v out_o that_o he_o count_v all_o those_o not_o baptize_v which_o have_v bee●_n baptize_v by_o any_o other_o than_o by_o preacher_n pag._n 568._o and_o sixpence_n 15_o the_o fifteen_o censure_n be_v a_o mea●e_a cavil_n take_v up_o by_o ●●●kinge_v a_o phrase_n of_o speak_v contrary_a to_o the_o speaker_n although_o it_o seem_v that_o either_o m.d._n or_o his_o printer_n ●athe_v leave_v out_o some_o word_n pag._n 568_o which_o t._n c_o be_v charge_a to_o use_v by_o the_o censure_n in_o the_o table_n for_o in_o the_o pag._n 568._o he_o be_v make_v to_o speak_v th●s_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v in_o stead_n of_o a_o preach_a minister_n if_o i_o may_v so_o call_v he_o 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