of_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o all_o faith_n love_n obedience_n or_o any_o sanctify_a affection_n that_o ordinance_n which_o most_o contribute_v to_o that_o must_v necessary_o must_v contribute_v to_o edification_n it_o be_v therefore_o the_o preach_a in_o most_o parish_n church_n which_o people_n look_v at_o as_o less_o tend_v to_o edification_n than_o what_o they_o hear_v elsewhere_o be_v less_o fit_v to_o their_o understanding_n and_o memory_n less_o awaken_n and_o operative_a upon_o their_o affection_n if_o any_o of_o they_o assign_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o public_a worship_n or_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n as_o give_v they_o cause_n to_o withdraw_v their_o presence_n from_o the_o former_a or_o concurrence_n with_o the_o latter_a it_o be_v ordinary_o of_o another_o nature_n not_o for_o further_a edification_n mere_o whereas_o sir_n our_o author_n say_v p._n 24._o that_o he_o do_v not_o understand_v what_o it_o be_v to_o be_v better_o save_v or_o more_o save_v we_o can_v help_v that_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 3._o 15._o will_v teach_v he_o what_o he_o pretend_v to_o be_v so_o unintelligible_a his_o next_o council_n be_v p._n 24._o let_v edification_n be_v place_v in_o the_o substantial_a part_n of_o religion_n sir_n we_o have_v our_o religion_n yet_o to_o seek_v if_o faith_n and_o holiness_n be_v not_o the_o substantial_a part_n of_o it_o there_o be_v none_o that_o deni_v that_o a_o right_a faith_n and_o a_o honest_a conversation_n be_v teach_v in_o our_o church_n the_o question_n be_v whether_o they_o be_v ordinary_o teach_v in_o all_o parish_n church_n in_o the_o best_a manner_n for_o people_n understanding_n either_o or_o improvement_n in_o either_o they_o be_v certain_o teach_v in_o the_o best_a manner_n with_o reference_n to_o edification_n when_o they_o be_v teach_v so_o plain_o as_o all_o the_o hearer_n may_v understand_v they_o and_o what_o be_v say_v be_v so_o prove_v and_o justify_v from_o holy_a writ_n that_o their_o faith_n who_o object_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a shall_v be_v any_o thing_n but_o a_o divine_a revelation_n can_v be_v found_v not_o in_o the_o wisdom_n of_o man_n fine_a word_n or_o fallible_a ratiocination_n but_o in_o the_o power_n of_o god_n and_o in_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o divine_a will_n reveal_v in_o his_o word_n if_o the_o author_n sir_n mean_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v teach_v in_o our_o thirty_o nine_o article_n and_o in_o some_o particular_a church_n all_o that_o he_o can_v infer_v be_v that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o we_o to_o divide_v ourselves_o from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n in_o those_o article_n nor_o from_o such_o place_n where_o we_o dwell_v where_o those_o doctrine_n be_v so_o preach_v if_o ever_o we_o be_v unite_v to_o they_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o in_o all_o parish_n church_n faith_n and_o holiness_n be_v so_o press_v and_o preach_v he_o will_v find_v it_o deny_v by_o many_o and_o impossible_a by_o himself_o to_o be_v prove_v i_o see_v sir_n nothing_o more_o in_o all_o the_o book_n you_o send_v i_o unless_o word_n to_o draw_v up_o all_o in_o short_a sir_n if_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o christian_n on_o the_o earth_n not_o apostatise_v to_o idolatry_n be_v but_o one_o church_n her_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n one_o and_o the_o same_o how_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o any_o shall_v separate_v from_o it_o who_o adher_v to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o it_o and_o life_n in_o the_o performance_n of_o the_o same_o act_n of_o worship_n that_o god_n be_v honour_v by_o in_o every_o part_n of_o it_o for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o all_o such_o person_n as_o be_v member_n of_o it_o neither_o do_v nor_o ever_o do_v worship_n god_n in_o the_o same_o place_n nor_o by_o the_o same_o numerical_a act_n nor_o be_v under_o the_o same_o external_a form_n of_o church-government_n and_o order_n so_o as_o there_o be_v no_o pretence_n of_o separation_n from_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n i_o know_v no_o other_o church_n but_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o which_o a_o individual_a person_n be_v a_o member_n let_v we_o consider_v that_o as_o signify_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o christian_n wherein_o we_o live_v upon_o which_o account_n we_o sometime_o speak_v of_o a_o national_a church_n how_o can_v a_o person_n more_o separate_a from_o that_o than_o from_o the_o catholic_n church_n sir_n who_o adher_v to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n own_v in_o it_o and_o serve_v god_n in_o any_o part_n or_o corner_n of_o it_o by_o the_o same_o specifical_a act_n of_o worship_n that_o whole_a body_n of_o people_n serve_v god_n by_o and_o in_o for_o neither_o do_v all_o the_o people_n in_o any_o nation_n meet_v in_o the_o same_o place_n to_o worship_n god_n nor_o do_v the_o minister_n use_v the_o same_o word_n in_o all_o their_o prayer_n or_o sermon_n nor_o do_v people_n use_v the_o same_o habit_n and_o posture_n in_o their_o act_n of_o worship_n do_v they_o mean_v the_o particular_a congregation_n of_o which_o man_n be_v member_n it_o be_v impossible_a a_o man_n shall_v separate_v from_o a_o church_n in_o that_o sense_n who_o never_o be_v a_o member_n of_o it_o and_o as_o impossible_a that_o any_o shall_v sinful_o withdraw_v communion_n from_o a_o church_n in_o that_o low_a notion_n that_o can_v without_o sin_n have_v communion_n with_o it_o in_o that_o or_o those_o act_n in_o which_o he_o withdraw_v his_o communion_n neither_o be_v he_o to_o be_v call_v a_o separatist_n that_o only_o withdraw_v his_o communion_n from_o it_o as_o to_o a_o human_a tradition_n and_o be_v yet_o ready_a to_o have_v communion_n with_o it_o in_o every_o divine_a institution_n it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o christ_n do_v so_o as_o to_o the_o jew_n and_o also_o keep_v a_o communion_n distinct_a from_o they_o though_o he_o do_v not_o whole_o cast_v off_o communion_n with_o they_o john_n baptist_n keep_v a_o communion_n with_o the_o jewish_a church_n yet_o sufficient_o reflect_v on_o the_o corruption_n of_o it_o and_o neither_o restrain_v his_o preach_v nor_o baptise_v to_o the_o synagogue_n or_o temple_n this_o same_o thing_n so_o clamour_v on_o under_o the_o notion_n of_o the_o black_a sin_n of_o schism_n and_o separation_n if_o it_o signify_v any_o thing_n more_o than_o a_o withdraw_n from_o some_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o no_o divine_a institution_n no_o necessity_n the_o imposition_n of_o which_o and_o a_o compliance_n with_o which_o some_o person_n judge_v sinful_a i_o must_v profef_n myself_o not_o in_o the_o least_o degree_n to_o understand_v it_o and_o if_o it_o signify_v no_o more_o which_o of_o the_o ten_o commandment_n it_o be_v oppose_v to_o i_o can_v understand_v nor_o how_o to_o excuse_v he_o from_o it_o who_o do_v the_o like_a yet_o be_v holy_a undefiled_a separate_a from_o sinner_n but_o sir_n as_o to_z what_o be_v say_v in_o this_o discourse_n that_o it_o be_v sinful_a for_o a_o man_n agree_v in_o all_o the_o point_n of_o faith_n in_o all_o the_o substantial_a part_n and_o act_n of_o worship_n with_o all_o christian_n in_o the_o world_n and_o more_o especial_o with_o all_o those_o in_o the_o nation_n or_o in_o the_o parish_n wherein_o he_o live_v not_o ordinary_o to_o join_v in_o those_o numerical_a act_n of_o worship_n which_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o parishioner_n or_o many_o of_o they_o join_v in_o because_o the_o preach_a and_o pray_v or_o other_o administration_n of_o holy_a thing_n in_o that_o place_n be_v not_o such_o as_o he_o by_o experience_n find_v most_o conducive_a to_o the_o profit_n of_o his_o soul_n either_o to_o convey_v to_o he_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n or_o to_o affect_v his_o heart_n with_o love_n to_o and_o zeal_n for_o god_n it_o be_v of_o all_o thing_n that_o which_o i_o least_o understand_v and_o sir_n i_o hope_v it_o be_v the_o last_o thing_n any_o shall_v beat_v into_o my_o head_n if_o any_o have_v a_o design_n upon_o i_o sir_n let_v he_o attempt_v if_o he_o can_v to_o prove_v that_o i_o have_v soul_n or_o if_o any_o yet_o that_o soul_n or_o thing_n call_v so_o be_v but_o the_o crâ—sis_n of_o my_o body_n no_o distinct_a be_v from_o it_o but_o shall_v with_o it_o die_v and_o putrify_v and_o never_o with_o it_o rise_v more_o to_o hear_v of_o what_o i_o have_v do_v in_o the_o flesh._n or_o let_v he_o attempt_v if_o he_o can_v to_o persuade_v i_o that_o i_o be_o not_o with_o this_o soul_n to_o endeavour_v to_o my_o utmost_a to_o glorify_v god_n but_o i_o hope_v he_o shall_v never_o so_o long_o as_o i_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v a_o god_n or_o that_o i_o have_v a_o immortal_a be_v within_o i_o with_o which_o i_o ought_v to_o glorify_v this_o god_n the_o eternal_a concern_v of_o which_o i_o be_o above_o all_o thing_n to_o mind_n and_o in_o order_n to_o it_o
a_o short_a examination_n of_o a_o discourse_n concern_v edification_n by_o dr._n hascard_v where_o it_o be_v inquire_v how_o well_o the_o author_n of_o the_o say_a discourse_n have_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o a_o man_n to_o go_v from_o his_o parish_n church_n to_o meeting_n that_o he_o may_v better_o edify_v in_o a_o letter_n to_o a_o friend_n 2_o cor._n 12._o 9_o but_o we_o do_v all_o thing_n dear_o belove_v for_o your_o edify_v london_n print_v and_o be_v to_o be_v sell_v by_o a._n baldwin_n near_o the_o oxford-arm_n inn_n in_o warwick-lane_n 1700._o advertisement_n there_o be_v late_o publish_v a_o letter_n of_o advice_n to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n in_o the_o english_a nation_n endeavour_v their_o satisfaction_n in_o that_o point_n who_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o england_n short_a animadversion_n upon_o dr._n calamy_n be_v discourse_n in_o the_o conformist_n case_n against_o dissenter_n concern_v a_o scrupulous_a conscience_n a_o answer_n to_o dr._n scot_n case_n against_o dissenter_n concern_v form_n of_o prayer_n and_o the_o fallacy_n of_o the_o story_n of_o commin_n plain_o discover_v a_o short_a examination_n of_o a_o discourse_n concern_v edification_n honour_a sir_n i_o have_v receive_v your_o exceed_a civil_a letter_n with_o the_o discourse_n that_o you_o favour_v i_o to_o send_v along_o with_o it_o which_o be_v double_o acceptable_a to_o i_o first_o as_o a_o new_a book_n few_o of_o which_o come_v to_o we_o live_v at_o such_o a_o distance_n from_o your_o metropolis_n second_o with_o respect_n to_o the_o argument_n of_o it_o a_o discourse_n concern_v edification_n must_v be_v acceptable_a to_o every_o one_o who_o know_v it_o to_o be_v his_o duty_n 2_o pet._n 3._o 18._o to_o grow_v in_o grace_n and_o in_o the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n jesus_n christ._n which_o be_v in_o english_a edification_n you_o desire_v my_o thought_n concern_v it_o which_o i_o shall_v free_o give_v you_o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o any_o man_n to_o forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o to_o go_v to_o the_o separate_a meeting_n because_o he_o can_v better_o edify_v there_o this_o he_o say_v be_v unlawful_a and_o to_o make_v it_o plain_a he_o say_v two_o thing_n must_v be_v first_o consider_v 1._o what_o sort_n of_o person_n this_o be_v that_o ask_v this_o question_n 2._o what_o he_o mean_v by_o edification_n as_o to_o the_o first_o he_o suppose_v the_o person_n not_o to_o judge_v any_o thing_n unlawful_a in_o the_o communion_n this_o sir_n will_v make_v his_o question_n to_o concern_v very_o few_o not_o one_o of_o a_o hundred_o among_o dissenter_n by_o edification_n he_o mean_v he_o say_v a_o improvement_n of_o his_o spiritual_a condition_n in_o the_o full_a latitude_n of_o it_o these_o be_v word_n large_a enough_o comprehend_v knowledge_n in_o the_o understanding_n faith_n and_o obedience_n respect_v the_o will_n and_o warmth_n or_o zeal_n in_o the_o affection_n we_o agree_v that_o edification_n indeed_o be_v nothing_o else_o the_o apostle_n call_v we_o god_n temple_n his_o building_n and_o edification_n signify_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o build_n up_o in_o christ_n in_o faith_n and_o love_n in_o zeal_n and_o hâ—â—iness_n and_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n with_o what_o st._n john_n call_v the_o soul_n prosper_v 1_o john_n 3._o 1._o a_o increase_n with_o the_o increase_n of_o god_n col._n 2._o 19_o sir_n i_o can_v understand_v how_o it_o shall_v be_v unlawful_a for_o a_o man_n to_o do_v any_o thing_n for_o this_o end_n for_o his_o soul_n can_v never_o prosper_v nor_o increase_v nor_o grow_v by_o any_o sinful_a act_n without_o doubt_n i_o do_v conceive_v therefore_o the_o author_n have_v mistake_v his_o question_n which_o shall_v have_v be_v of_o what_o be_v lawful_a to_o do_v not_o for_o better_a edify_n but_o upon_o pretence_n of_o it_o for_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o any_o thing_n be_v lawful_a for_o better_a edify_n god_n can_v be_v by_o nothing_o more_o glorify_v nor_o can_v any_o thing_n more_o tend_v to_o the_o save_n of_o our_o own_o soul_n which_o be_v the_o two_o great_a end_n of_o a_o christian._n but_o sir_n to_z state_z this_o one_o question_n he_o have_v beg_v two_o other_o 1._o that_o dissenter_n meeting_n be_v separate_a meeting_n suppose_v sir_n people_z meet_z together_o in_o the_o church_n of_o st._n andrews_n in_o holborn_n and_o another_o congregation_n meet_v at_o st._n giles_n in_o the_o field_n a_o three_o in_o cheapside_n and_o that_o none_o of_o these_o people_n ever_o go_v to_o any_o but_o their_o own_o church_n be_v they_o therefore_o separate_a meeting_n when_o they_o all_o hear_v the_o same_o scripture_n read_v sing_v the_o same_o psalm_n hear_v the_o same_o doctrine_n though_o in_o other_o word_n and_o worship_n god_n by_o the_o same_o act_n of_o worship_n prayer_n praise_n preach_v and_o hear_v administer_a and_o receive_v the_o same_o sacrament_n how_o be_v they_o separate_a meeting_n do_v ever_o any_o call_v the_o dutch_a and_o french_a church_n meet_v ofttimes_o in_o the_o parish_n of_o broad-street_n separate_a meeting_n because_o they_o go_v not_o to_o hear_v the_o minister_n in_o broadstreet_n 2._o he_o also_o assume_v that_o they_o forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n how_o do_v that_o appear_v many_o of_o they_o ofttimes_o come_v to_o the_o parish_n church_n and_o join_v with_o the_o congregation_n in_o prayer_n praise_n hear_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n those_o that_o do_v not_o yet_o hold_v the_o same_o faith_n and_o perform_v the_o same_o specifical_a though_o not_o the_o same_o numerical_a act_n of_o worship_n that_o the_o parochial_a church_n do_v do_v no_o more_o forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n than_o the_o parishioner_n of_o st._n andrews_n holborn_n forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n because_o they_o never_o be_v at_o bow-church_n or_o that_o at_o ludgate_n but_o sir_n we_o will_v for_o once_o admit_v that_o the_o meeting_n the_o people_n go_v to_o be_v separate_a meeting_n 2._o that_o they_o whole_o for_o sake_n the_o church_n of_o england_n yet_o if_o they_o do_v it_o because_o they_o can_v edisie_v there_o better_o i_o do_v think_v it_o not_o lawful_a only_o but_o necessary_a also_o for_o that_o man_n do_v not_o believe_v there_o be_v a_o god_n or_o do_v not_o know_v he_o have_v a_o soul_n or_o do_v not_o know_v his_o chief_a end_n be_v to_o glorify_v god_n and_o that_o his_o soul_n interest_n be_v his_o most_o valuable_a interest_n that_o do_v not_o believe_v he_o may_v separate_a from_o any_o particular_a church_n that_o he_o may_v better_o edify_v elsewhere_o i_o must_v confess_v sir_n when_o i_o read_v the_o question_n as_o it_o be_v state_v by_o the_o author_n i_o be_v quite_o startle_v at_o his_o negative_a determination_n of_o it_o and_o very_o desirous_a to_o see_v the_o argument_n by_o which_o he_o can_v prove_v it_o but_o when_o i_o come_v to_o consider_v they_o p._n 2._o i_o be_v satisfy_v for_o his_o first_o reason_n be_v because_o there_o be_v no_o better_a edification_n to_o be_v have_v in_o the_o separate_a meeting_n than_o in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n this_o he_o prove_v 1._o because_o her_o article_n of_o faith_n be_v those_o which_o our_o dissenter_n themselves_o allow_v upon_o this_o he_o enlarge_v page_z 3_o 4._o 2._o because_o she_o lay_v a_o necessity_n upon_o a_o good_a life_n p._n 4_o 5._o 3._o because_o she_o be_v fit_o constitute_v to_o excite_v devotion_n p._n 7_o 8._o 4._o because_o she_o have_v a_o excellent_a order_n and_o discipline_n p._n 8_o 9_o but_o sir_n all_o this_o will_v not_o do_v nor_o will_v prove_v more_o than_o half_a a_o reason_n but_o page_n 10._o he_o add_v this_o constitution_n be_v use_v and_o manage_v in_o the_o best_a way_n by_o the_o pastor_n of_o our_o church_n to_o edify_v the_o soul_n of_o men._n this_o he_o prove_v 1._o because_o the_o pastor_n of_o our_o church_n have_v strict_a command_v lay_v upon_o they_o so_o to_o do_v p._n 11._o 2._o that_o these_o command_n be_v obey_v by_o the_o pastor_n of_o our_o church_n and_o they_o do_v all_o thing_n in_o it_o to_o edification_n p._n 11_o 12._o before_o i_o come_v to_o speak_v to_o this_o distinct_o etc._n etc._n we_o must_v consider_v what_o communion_n it_o be_v with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o be_v require_v and_o for_o the_o withdraw_n of_o which_o dissenter_n be_v stigmatise_v with_o the_o unintelligible_a name_n of_o schismatic_n and_o separatist_n be_v it_o for_o their_o not_o agree_v with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n express_v in_o the_o thirty_o nine_o article_n or_o because_o the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n press_v a_o necessity_n of_o a_o holy_a life_n in_o order_n to_o salvation_n
sir_n i_o have_v be_v young_a and_o now_o be_o old_a i_o never_o yet_o know_v a_o faithful_a and_o profitable_a preacher_n want_v a_o auditory_a i_o have_v indeed_o know_v many_o a_o learned_a and_o honest_a man_n want_v the_o company_n of_o his_o own_o parishioner_n but_o his_o church_n have_v be_v fill_v up_o with_o other_o i_o have_v also_o know_v many_o a_o learned_a and_o good_a man_n who_o want_v elocution_n or_o a_o happy_a method_n or_o be_v weak_a in_o preach_v part_n have_v want_v a_o auditory_a but_o let_v a_o man_n be_v conformi_v or_o nonconformist_n if_o he_o be_v a_o man_n sound_n in_o matter_n of_o doctrine_n holy_a in_o his_o life_n and_o but_o of_o tolerable_a preach_a part_n and_o ability_n i_o never_o know_v he_o want_v a_o auditory_a i_o dare_v say_v no_o such_o person_n this_o day_n want_v none_o especial_o that_o be_v choose_v by_o the_o people_n either_o by_o a_o first_o election_n or_o a_o after_o submission_n there_o ever_o be_v and_o while_o this_o world_n stand_v there_o will_v ever_o be_v difference_n in_o the_o minister_n auditory_n till_o god_n make_v all_o minister_n equal_a in_o gift_n and_o ability_n neither_o do_v i_o much_o understand_v the_o discouragement_n of_o a_o small_a flock_n suppose_v the_o minister_n to_o have_v a_o livelihood_n the_o few_o soul_n a_o minister_n have_v under_o his_o charge_n the_o lesser_a his_o account_n will_v be_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n to_o who_o many_o soul_n be_v entrust_v of_o he_o will_v many_o be_v require_v but_o say_v our_o author_n what_o if_o our_o pastor_n be_v idle_a or_o remiss_a in_o his_o duty_n or_o corrupt_v in_o the_o faith_n and_o teach_v error_n instead_o of_o sound_a doctrine_n and_o we_o have_v no_o mean_n of_o edification_n what_o must_v we_o do_v must_v we_o take_v in_o poison_n instead_o of_o food_n or_o not_o be_v feed_v at_o all_o a_o very_a considerable_a question_n to_o which_o may_v have_v be_v add_v what_o if_o he_o be_v of_o a_o unholy_a life_n who_o build_v with_o one_o hand_n and_o destroy_v with_o the_o other_o to_o who_o people_n be_v ready_a to_o say_v when_o he_o reprove_v one_o physician_n heal_v thyself_o how_o can_v we_o think_v you_o believe_v as_o you_o speak_v when_o we_o see_v you_o do_v not_o live_v as_o you_o speak_v but_o to_o the_o question_n as_o form_v by_o himself_o sir_n the_o author_n reply_v to_o be_v sure_a you_o must_v not_o run_v into_o schismatical_a separation_n it_o be_v more_o tolerable_a to_o go_v to_o other_o congregation_n of_o our_o communion_n that_o may_v be_v irregular_a but_o it_o be_v not_o schismatical_a what_o do_v he_o mean_v by_o a_o schismatical_a separation_n shall_v the_o follow_a word_n expound_v he_o it_o be_v more_o tolerable_a to_o go_v to_o other_o church_n of_o our_o communion_n what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o be_v not_o all_o congregation_n where_o the_o same_o doctrine_n be_v preach_v and_o the_o same_o worship_n i_o mean_v act_n of_o worship_n perform_v of_o the_o same_o communion_n do_v the_o difference_n in_o the_o minister_n habit_n and_o word_n in_o prayer_n make_v a_o different_a communion_n but_o be_v it_o lawful_a to_o go_v to_o other_o parish-church_n no_o say_v our_o author_n that_o be_v irregular_a and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o sure_o man_n shall_v not_o be_v make_v such_o deep_a sufferer_n for_o that_o venial_a sin_n but_o he_o thank_v god_n we_o have_v a_o government_n which_o upon_o a_o just_a and_o modest_a complaint_n will_v quicken_v the_o lazy_a and_o negligent_a correct_v the_o heretical_a pastor_n and_o restore_v to_o you_o true_a edification_n i_o have_v not_o a_o word_n sir_n to_o say_v against_o this_o judge_v as_o you_o see_v what_o be_v true_a or_o false_a in_o these_o thing_n be_v matter_n of_o demonstration_n and_o therefore_o there_o need_v no_o word_n about_o it_o the_o author_n sir_n conclude_v his_o discourse_n with_o the_o recommendation_n of_o two_o thing_n to_o we_o 1._o that_o if_o we_o fancy_v any_o defect_n in_o our_o government_n we_o shall_v not_o hence_o conclude_v that_o we_o have_v not_o sufficient_a edification_n in_o the_o church_n to_o save_v our_o soul_n i_o know_v sir_n you_o can_v but_o observe_v 1._o how_o the_o author_n have_v forget_v his_o question_n which_o he_o p._n 1._o state_v concern_v better_a edification_n sir_n i_o do_v not_o think_v any_o sober_a dissenter_n will_v deny_v that_o man_n and_o woman_n may_v be_v save_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o know_v many_o of_o they_o do_v think_v that_o many_o will_v be_v save_v in_o the_o popish_a communion_n where_o they_o have_v no_o better_a light_n to_o make_v use_n of_o than_o they_o have_v in_o spain_n and_o italy_n and_o live_v up_o to_o their_o light_n do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o they_o must_v not_o withdraw_v communion_n from_o rome_n i_o do_v not_o here_o compare_v the_o church_n of_o england_n with_o the_o romish_a synagogue_n i_o only_o bring_v this_o as_o a_o instance_n that_o a_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o mean_n of_o grace_n to_o bring_v man_n to_o heaven_n be_v not_o enough_o for_o pious_a soul_n to_o look_v after_o if_o it_o be_v there_o need_v no_o exhortation_n to_o grow_v in_o grace_n how_o come_v the_o question_n to_o be_v alter_v here_o p._n 22._o or_o this_o to_o be_v use_v as_o a_o argument_n not_o to_o seek_v for_o further_a edify_v that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n there_o be_v sufficient_a edification_n mean_n of_o edification_n i_o presume_v he_o mean_v to_o save_v soul_n have_v christian_n no_o more_o to_o do_v do_v this_o author_n think_v than_o to_o look_v just_a to_o get_v to_o heaven_n sure_o their_o business_n be_v in_o the_o first_o place_n to_o glorify_v god_n and_o that_o can_v be_v no_o otherwise_o than_o by_o bring_v forth_o much_o fruit_n john_n 15._o 8._o herein_o say_v our_o saviour_n be_v my_o father_n glorify_v if_o you_o bear_v much_o fruit._n there_o be_v some_o who_o work_n shall_v be_v burn_v and_o they_o shall_v suffer_v loss_n but_o yet_o they_o themselves_o shall_v be_v save_v yet_o so_o as_o by_o fire_n 2_o cor._n 3._o 15._o every_o good_a christian_a will_v think_v himself_o concern_v so_o to_o live_v so_o to_o walk_v as_o he_o may_v most_o glorify_v god_n and_o be_v save_v yet_o not_o so_o as_o by_o fire_n he_o go_v on_o if_o upon_o a_o nice_a search_n and_o critical_a enquiry_n they_o think_v they_o have_v find_v some_o little_a flaw_n and_o defect_n improper_a phrase_n doubtful_a sentence_n and_o some_o small_a omission_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o our_o prayer_n and_o discipline_n yet_o let_v they_o not_o conclude_v that_o these_o can_v weigh_v in_o the_o balance_n against_o the_o black_a sin_n of_o schism_n and_o separation_n and_o all_o its_o sad_a consequent_n which_o be_v excuse_v by_o nothing_o else_o but_o term_n of_o communion_n plain_o sinful_a sir_n we_o must_v give_v they_o leave_v to_o load_v practice_n they_o do_v not_o like_o hard_a name_n when_o they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o convince_v the_o author_n of_o they_o of_o any_o sin_n i_o can_v wish_v that_o we_o can_v hear_v more_o of_o the_o black_a sin_n of_o drunkenness_n and_o whoredom_n and_o profane_a curse_v and_o swear_v but_o they_o can_v never_o name_v schism_n and_o separation_n but_o they_o must_v represent_v that_o as_o a_o black_a sin_n yet_o they_o will_v never_o tell_v we_o in_o any_o intelligible_a dialect_n what_o this_o same_o sin_n unto_o death_n be_v wherein_o it_o lie_v which_o of_o the_o ten_o commandment_n it_o oppose_v &_o c_o let_v they_o first_o tell_v we_o what_o the_o church_n be_v and_o open_v how_o we_o ever_o be_v unite_v to_o it_o and_o then_o show_v as_o plain_o how_o we_o be_v separate_v from_o it_o and_o we_o will_v cry_v peccavimus_fw-la if_o we_o can_v show_v they_o that_o the_o term_n upon_o which_o we_o must_v have_v have_v communion_n with_o it_o be_v such_o as_o we_o have_v just_a reason_n to_o believe_v sinful_a but_o sir_n when_o dissenter_n plead_v separation_n lawful_a for_o better_a edification_n it_o be_v not_o so_o much_o with_o respect_n to_o the_o worship_n and_o government_n as_o to_o the_o preach_v most_o ordinary_a in_o it_o not_o that_o there_o be_v not_o excellent_a preacher_n that_o do_v conform_v to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o with_o all_o there_o be_v other_o many_o of_o which_o also_o may_v be_v very_o learned_a and_o good_a man_n but_o yet_o not_o have_v the_o gift_n of_o preach_v edification_n be_v much_o more_o concern_v in_o the_o doctrine_n and_o preach_v which_o man_n ordinary_o hear_v and_o attend_v than_o it_o be_v in_o the_o form_n of_o a_o church_n government_n and_o in_o the_o prayer_n use_v there_o though_o they_o also_o influence_n it_o in_o a_o much_o low_a degree_n do_v for_o a_o knowledge_n