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A91309 Truth triumphing over falshood, antiquity over novelty. Or, The first part of a just and seasonable vindication of the undoubted ecclesiasticall iurisdiction, right, legislative, coercive power of Christian emperors, kings, magistrates, parliaments, in all matters of religion, church-government, discipline, ceremonies, manners: summoning of, presiding, moderating in councells, synods; and ratifying their canons, determinations, decrees: as likewise of lay-mens right both to sit and vote in councells; ... In refutation of Mr. Iohn Goodwins Innocencies Triumph: my deare brother Burtons Vindication of churches, commonly called Independent: and of all anti-monarchicall, anti-Parliamentall, anti-synodicall, and anarchicall paradoxes of papists, prelates, Anabaptists, Arminians, Socinians, Brownists, or Independents: whose old and new objections to the contrary, are here fully answered. / By William Prynne, of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P4115; Thomason E259_1; ESTC R212479 202,789 171

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term_n 96._o faith_n be_v catholic_a and_o common_a to_o all_o as_o well_o to_o layman_n as_o priest_n yea_o general_o to_o all_o christian_n he_o speak_v it_o express_o of_o layman_n assist_v in_o counsel_n therefore_o it_o be_v just_a and_o reasonable_a they_o shall_v have_v voice_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n and_o clergyman_n i_o shall_v close_v up_o this_o with_o the_o resolution_n of_o 20._o marsilius_n of_o milan_n who_o express_o resolve_v that_o layman_n especial_o those_o who_o be_v pious_a and_o learned_a ought_v to_o be_v present_a in_o and_o summon_v to_o general_a counsel_n as_o well_o as_o clergyman_n especial_o when_o the_o clergy_n be_v either_o ignorant_a corrupt_a or_o erroneous_a in_o their_o judgement_n or_o scandalous_a in_o their_o life_n his_o reason_n be_v these_o first_o because_o they_o have_v all_o as_o great_a a_o interest_n in_o the_o faith_n and_o church_n good_a as_o any_o prelate_n pope_n or_o clergyman_n second_o because_o 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apostoli_fw-la cum_fw-la senioribus_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o any_o desire_n further_a satisfaction_n