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A89836	A discovery of the man of sin, acting in a mystery of iniquitie, pleading for his kingdom, against the coming of Christ to take away sin. Or, an answer to a book set forth by Tho. Weld of Gateshead, Richard Prideaux, Sam. Hamond, Will. Cole, and Will. Durant of Newcastle. By way of reply to an answer of James Nayler's to their former book, called The perfect Pharisee: who call themselves ministers of Christ, but are found ministring for the kingdom of Antichrist. Published for clearing the innocency of the truth from their malicious slanders, and discovering their deceits. By one whom the world calls James Nayler.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1654 (1654)	Wing N274; Thomason E738_16; ESTC R202155	50,411	56

judge of the world in particular he is judge of the world in general for he is but one in all the Saints who is Judge and shall be at the great day which judgements you are ignorant of who are carnal and compare it with carnal judging of Justice at the Bench and so compare spiritual things with carnal and so appear to be ignorant of spiritual things and that spiritual man which judgeth all things yet he himself is judged of no man which spiritual man being in George Fox is judge of the world but George Fox is denied for we look not upon the visible but the invisible which is the Son of God And this may serve for an answer to your reply and for condemnation To the calling George Fox the Son of God you know nothing of the Son of God as he was revealed in the Apostles but are without God in the world a nest of Serpents This Son is the same who is the Judge of the world And whereas you speak of the Angels not being this Son of God It is true he takes not upon him the nature of angels but the seed of Abraham and who seeth by this eye judgeth the deep things of God and searcheth the hearts according to that measure as he is born up And whereas you charge me with saying to one of you How should God reveal any thing to him and I not know it I answer William Cole meeting me in the way said He had a message to me from the Lord Jesus Christ but that was not a convenient place and here Cole's spirit is tryed I told him Jesus Christ was no respecter of places and therein I disowned him and his message and saw it to be deceit Whereupon I told him to this purpose If Jesus Christ should have sent him with any message to me I should have owned it for where the Spirit of Jesus Christ is that owns the message of Jesus Christ And whereas you speak of vindicating the honour of our dread Lord and his Son Jesus Christ I answer By your lying slanders of the innocent you shall never vindicate his honour for he is honoured by the truth but herein you honour the devil and do his work And here Cole's spirit is tried not to be the spirit of Christ which respects places and his message to be a lye For your Reply to the second Position That there is no distinction of persons in the Godhead Before you said it was in Saul's Errand pag. 12. and now you say you did but infer it from those words that George Fox said that it was but a busie minde But what shuffling is this Are not you ashamed to charge me with shuffling and are found in it your selves What is it that you may not charge upon us by these false inferences And when you are plainly told of it you call it rayling But your folly is made manifest to all men and the ground you go upon who slander by your false inferences and gathered up reports from the mouthes of others and give them out for truths Here I charge you Priests to be slanderers and lyers Now for your Reply to the third Position That the soul is a part of the Divine essence and you say I do not in the least deny it I answer to your charge As to the general I deny and whether any spoke it in particular or no I question there being so many lyes charged upon us from his mouth who affirms this and how shall I either deny or confess it unless I know the truth of it And if any word in weakness be spoken by one is this an honest ground you go upon to charge it upon the whole in general If any should gather up the prophane words and walkings of many in your Parish and charge them upon you would not you think your selves wronged And herein you appear to all not to do as you would be done by And for what is said of our not knowing what the soul is The endless disputes that are amongst you concerning the soul of man and what it is shall witness against you and with me before all men that I have done you no wrong and that you are ignorant of the living soul Posit 4. That Christ is in every man and in the reprobate held under corruption and in your Reply you say I charge you with lying slanders and yet confess the thing I answer That Jesus Christ is all and in all the light of the world and lightneth every one that cometh into the world without exception is confessed but that I said in the reprobate he is held under corruption which one of you said you received from me in conference that is denied And here you adde lyes to slander withal and what I said of you is true spoken not in envie nor from the fulness of my gall as you would make people believe but in plainness and truth And now you would shuffle it off to John Audland because he wrote in a letter to one that was fallen away from the Truth which he had once received That such crucified Christ within them afresh according to the Scripture But is this to say that Christ in a reprobate is holden under corruption let any judge And thus you seem to go about to make amends for wronging of me by casting the same slander fasly upon another But it seems you have a purpose to slander and some must bear it And for that expression you say I used in Edward Briggs house I deny it and witness it to be no truer then the rest and from the same root And for the Dispute you speak of at Pierce-bride and Sanderson whom you bring to prove your lyes which you cast upon me and others of my brethren who were at Pierce-bridge Decemb. 12 where Priest Sanderson came in and many rude people with him and said that God had not given to every man a measure to profit withal C. A. said Here is not one here which can deny but that Christ hath enlightned them which light is the measure of God which Sanderson denied But that any there said that Christ in some was held under corruption they that were there may all witness against him Therefore be ashamed inventers of lyes who seck others to invent them also and are lyars who say Christ is a true light but not the true light as Saunderson did there and that Christ rules in all to whom he is given for a light which is false and here I charge you all Saunderson the rest to be no ministers of Christ who stumble at the light for many say we will not have this man to rule over us and so deny the light and the Lord that bought them and this is the condemnation that light is come into the world and such abide in darkness and comprehend not the light though the light shine in darkness and here are you who deny Christ to enlighten every one that

the truth judge And for those words If we say We have no sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us Whoever reads the next words may plainly see that they are spoken of a condition before confession and cleansing else the same Apostle should contradict himself who saith He that abides in Christ sins not and he that commits sin is of the Devil 1 John 3. 6 7 8 9. And he that is born of God sins not which all witness against your deceit and for that in Rom. 4. and 5. It is true no man is justified by his own works for it is he that worketh in us but doth that Scripture say He justifies the ugodly in his ungodliness or him that by faith became obedient as Abraham did And you that would perswade people that Christ will justifie them in their ungodliness count the blood of Christ an unholy thing which is to cleanse people from their sins and not to justifie them in their sins and here I charge you by the blood of Christ to be enemies to the blood of Christ and here you reason to encourage people in ungodliness To your tenth Position No real Saint but he that is perfect and perfectly holy in this life and doth not sin And in your Reply you are offended with our charging you with pleading for sin and you say You foresaw it I answer It seems something in your conscience accused you that we could do no less as may appear to all who read your words who would make people believe the Saints are real and yet live in sin but this is of the same with your former who saith That while a man is cursing and denying Christ he is in a state of justification Now what justification you own all may see when you say He that denies Christ is in a state of justification And whereas you say To discover sin is not to plead for it and many deceitful words you use and brings in a comparison of a Physitian discovering a consumption to that end that the patient may be healed and this you say is the very case between you and Nayler I answer Your comparison will not hold for the Physitian discovers the disease that there may be healing But your discovering is that none can be free from it while they live nor do we say You plead for sin in your discovering of sin but in that you say No man shall ever be without it and here you plead that men shall serve the devil as long as they live for he that commits sin is of the devil and the servant of sin and such a one is the servant of the devil And whereas you say that Nayler will not hear of the Saints being sick or under any spiritual imperfection your Charge is false for the Saints growth I own and the time of a childe I own and the growth till the overcoming and do not deny seeking after the healings of the blood of Christ but witness it effectual for cleansing and overcoming which you deny and say that to witness perfection and holiness and the overcoming of sin is really to plead for sin and to strengthen the bars of the kingdom of Satan And that which the Saints have witnessed and do witness you would render it under the name of Conceit and charge them to make the blood of Christ in vain But whether do they who witness the end for which the blood of Christ was given which is to cleanse from all sin 1 Joh. 1. 7. or they that deny it make it in vain And whereas you say The practice of Quakers both in their speaking and writing is never to send souls to the blood of Christ but to their own light to save them O you filthy slanderers who matter not what you speak against the truth Where did ever the Quakers either in speaking or writing deny the blood of Christ or send any to their own light to save them but to the light of Christ and to the blood of Christ For what is our own is darkness but Christ the light of the world we witness and this light shining out of darkness And whereas you use many words and bring many Scriptures as to make people believe that we hold the blood of Christ needless or that men can be cleansed without it that is your deceit for all are miserable till they be cleansed by Christ and then Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect whose sins are taken away by the Lamb of God And such deny self-righteousnes And though Paul did witness his warfare which we witness also in our measure yet afterward he did witness his overcoming and being more then a conqueror And whereas you talk of covering sins daily his sins who are once covered are not daily to cover but once for ever if he abide in Christ and return not into sin again and are made heirs of the righteousness of God and such deny self-righteousness And whereas you charge us with blasphemous heresie denying the Lord that bought us railing pride lying reproaching the Ordinance of God and Messengers of Jesus we deny it and this shall stand for your selves For blasphemies and heresies you that would draw people from the teachings of Christ are guilty of them and the Lord that bought us we own whom you that are sold to sin cannot witness Railing pride and lying we abhor and witness against them in you who live in them and therefore you hate us The Ordinance of God we own but deny your traditions The Messengers of Jesus we own and their call and deny you who scorn the immediate call of Christ and would cast it off as blasphemy on them whom he hath called and so witness your selves to be of those who run unsent and here you are discovered and your covering is too narrow and your bed is too short And the words of Job we own and deny self-justification and witness our selves justified by Christ and his righteousness brought neer unto us which is not a broken reed as you would call it but will stand us in stead in the evil day And our walking with God in his righteousness is our covering from wrath for which you reproach us and cast it upon us as blasphemy but it is that you may be manifest that you know not the covering of Christs righteousness and holiness in which whoever walk with God are covered from wrath And whereas you say that Christ destroyed the works of the devil for his people upon the Cross and yet men must commit sin while they live here is your confusion laid open to all men and you who live in sin which is a work of the devil he hath not destroyed the works of the devil in you and out of your own mouth be you judged that you are not his people for the work of the devil is alive in you And the cross of Christ you know not for what Christ formerly did destroy upon

the cross for his people he doth the same now and so is the same yesterday to day and for ever Heb. 13. 8. which cross you that live in your pride and lusts of the flesh will not take up and therefore the works of the devil remain in you undestroyed And for the Scriptures you alleadge do any of them say that Christ hath destroyed the works of the devil for them who live in sin for to commit sin is the work of the devil And first you say Christ hath destroyed the works of the devil upon the cross and then you say the works of Satan shall be destroyed in the time appointed of the Father and he shall present us spotless at his coming which time of the Fathers appointment and coming of Christ to present spotless you appear to be ignorant of for the Fathers time is To day to them that will hear his voice And the coming of Christ without sin unto salvation and presenting spotless is witnessed And whereas you go about to make people believe that though they die the servants of sin yet they shall be compleat in Christ and be made glorious and perfect and holy after death which is your own imagination here I charge you in the presence of the living God to be in the Papists faith to encourage people to live in sin while they live and for which you have no Scripture for I challenge you to bring one Scripture which doth say That perfection and holiness are reserved till after death or that any shall inherit them after death or one Scripture that saies Men shall live in sin while they are upon the earth who cannot witness them here but as men die so shall they come to judgement and so shall be proceeded against without any holiness added to them after death And thus you are not afraid to deceive souls and hold things contrary to plain Scripture to deceive withal which at that day you shall accompt for which will be terrible to all deceivers and whereas you would wrest those words of Christ Mat. 5. 18. Not one jot or tittle of the Law shall pass away until all be fulfilled and this you would wrest to make the Law void as though God did not require it to be fulfilled and you say this was the scle and alone work of Christ which work of Christ you know not in your selves who puts it far from you for they who witness the work of Christ they know that he who did fulfil the Law doth fulfil the it in every generation of the Saints who believe in him and so by faith the Law is established and not made void and whereas you say It is not said in all the book of God that the righteousness of the Law is fulfilled in this life in any Saints and here I charge you all to be lyers in the presence of the living God But you say the contrary is asserted I answer It seems you hold a fulfilling of it after death but read Rom. 8. 3 4. and let the Scripture be witness against you which saith in plain words That Christ came for that end to fulfil the Law in the Saints which they could not do through the weakness of the flesh and there is no Scripture that asserts the contrary without your wrestings which I deny as you have wrested and turned many Scriptures here to your own destruction and to destroy others turning them into your sence to another end then for which the holy Ghost gave them forth for the Spirit of God did never give out the Scripture to plead for sin while men live but they are so plain to all your wresting of them that I forbear to mention them in particular and whereas you slander us to hold up Popish notions and inherent holiness that is your own practise and your own words which we deny And you that say May not a man be in part unclean and yet pure and spotless too by reason of imputation Here you now shew your confusion and I command you to shew plain Scripture for this without twining And now let any who sees your pleading for sin and uncleanness which Christ came to take away judge if you are not the upholders of what Christ came to destroy and here you are Antichrists and by your pleading for sin is the man of sin discovered in you who pleads for his kingdom while men live and how I am a Railer for laying open these truths let any judge where the man of sin is discovered and you are found faithful to therein you are in the doctrine of the Papists your Master The eleventh Position That every man in the world hath a light within him sufficient to guide him to salvation without the help of any outward light or discovery And in your Reyly you deceitfully put in that word saving light which is not spoken by me for though Christ be the light of the world that enlightens all yet none are saved by him but who believe and follow him out of the works of darkness but to the rest it is the condemnation that light is come into world and they love darkness and their evil deeds and here are you to be condemned with it who are enemies to the light and pleads against it and so lives in works of darkness And whereas you say None can come except the Father draw them it 's true but those drawings you and all that hate the light do resist And whereas you say Every one that hath heard and learned of the Father cometh to me It 's true and that 's the reason why you who own not the teachings of the Father but counts it blasphemy to witness his voice come not to Christ but are at a distance from him and for John 1. 4 5. which you say Is clear against me and you say They were in darkness for want of light but John saith The light shined in darkness and he came unto his own and they received him not John 1. And here John shews the cause why they were in darkness was because they received not the light for as many as received him became the sons of God and thus what John saith you hold the contrary and you say that of Joh. 3. 19. This is the condemnation that light is come into the world is full against me but how that is full against my witnessing every man to have a light let any man see but you sure think that people are bound to believe any thing you say without any further trial but the light is come and you must now lead none but who are wilfully blinde And for the third branch of my answer That where the light of Christ is there needs no outward discovery to this you say You have abundantly proved that Christ is not in all nor doth enlighten all I answer Your proofs are contrary to plain Scripture in this as in all the rest for the Scripture saith Christ is in all Jew

of use every day in bearing witness with us against you and your Heathenish Worships and unsanctified lives who are belly-gods evil beasts And for you that say the four books are the Gospel make it appear you never knew him who is the glad things which Gospel was manifest before these books were written and is everlasting Sixthly you charge upon us the owning of an immediate call and the Word of the Lord coming to us To which I answer Let all the Prophets and Apostles and holy men of God in the Scripture witness against you who all owned the immediate call and the Word of the Lord and be you witnesses against your selves that you never had the Word of the Lord coming unto you but are of those who say Thus saith the Lord when the Lord never spoke unto you Jerem. 23. from vers 21. to 33. but are lyers and false Prophets by your own confession who reckon it up as a blasphemous doctrine to witness the Word of the Lord coming unto us and be also witnesses against your selves who deny an immediate call that you never were called of God for his call is immediate whereby he hath called his and sent them forth which call I witness from the mouth of the Lord. But you are of those who run unsent and therefore do not profit the people whose call is mediate and so never any was called by God and so are made Ministers by the will of man And as your Call is carnal and mediate so is your Ministery who have not the Word of the Lord but what you steal from your neighbour out of a book which none of the true Pr●phets of the Lord ever did and so out of your own mouth be ye judged and discovered to all the children of light to be in the errour Seventhly you charge us with putting abundance of holiness in fasting beggerly apparel wandering up and down the world To which I answer Our holiness is in Christ But you that scorn fasting and wandering up and down scorn that which the holy men of God ever owned Heb 11. 37 38. Christ fasted and the Prophets and Apostles were in fastings often Christ wandered up and down and had not whereon to lay his head and many followed him And the Apostles wandered to and fro and had no certain dwelling place 1 Cor. 4. 11. Now had you lived in their days you would have reproached them as you do those that follow them now and so here I charge you to be acted by a contrary spirit to Christ the Prophets and Apostles And for beggerly apparel you that reproach us because that we have cast off needless pride and excess for no other beggerly apparel do I know used amongst us you would have reproached those who wandered up and dow in sheeps skins and goats skins lodged in dens and caves of the earth for such were hated by your generation then as we are now And now let all judge by what spirit you are acted who would make the world believe these were the fruits of the man of sin and the mystery of the Babylonish iniquity And for your smiling at my weakness in saying that Gog and Magog are gathered together against Christ and his kingdom which you would put far off from your selves to the Turks and Saracens at the conversion of the Jews I tell you The Jews are converting and you are of those Heathens who are banding together against Christ with Gog and Magog who is king of the Jews and you are discovered to be enemies unto him and the Trumpet is sounded and the Battel is begun and your rage is great with the rest of the Heathen But the Lamb must take the kingdom blessed be our God for ever And whereas you accuse me for saying that you can scarcely agree among your selves in that which you call the worship of God Have I spoken here any thing but truth as they that know you may witness with me though you would put it off to matters of Discipline And you accuse A. P. to report it which is false and here I charge you Priests to minister lyes and to slander him for he hath not reported it to me But it seems your consciences accuse you and you would charge it upon him but your practice reports it And whereas you say this doth not make you like Herod and Pilate neither do I say that onely doth but your joyning together in one against Christ and his kingdom and your hatred against the truth therein you resemble them And whereas you bring Paul and Peter to warrant your divisions you may let their conditions alone for few in the Nation live more unlike Paul and Peter then you therefore go not about to make them like your selves who live in pride and covetousness as Lords and Masters over your hearers suing or compelling them to pay you tythes or wages running from place to place for more money and call that your call to the Ministery and deny the immediate call of Christ and the word of the Lord coming to you which the Apostles never did therefore for shame never compare your selves to the Apostles who are found amongst the hirelings and false prophets And whereas you would excuse your selves from speaking evil of our forsaking the world and would cover it over with deceitful words Let any that reads your words judge if they be not spoken in reproach to that our practice who call it but a pretence and our obedience in answering the call of Christ in forsaking the world this you call a sinful neglect of our families And do you not belye the Apostle when you say he calls those the rudiments of the world And do not those who forsake the world forsake the pride and lust of it which you live in And whereas you say it is a sinful neglect of our families and you know it to be a sin and yet you say you speak not against the world in its proper Gospel-sense and you instance Fox and Nayler as two evident examples of it And you say We do sinfully neglect our callings To which I answer Jesus Christ having called us forth by his immediate voice to leave all and follow him to do the work he hath for us to do Whether obeying and coming forth contrary to our own wills taking up our Cross and following him or disobeying and abiding in our estates and pleasures in the world now in a Gospel-sense whether of these is a sinful neglect of our callings let the Scriptures of the Prophets and Apostles and all the holy men of God judge who have been called and obeyed and come forth and condemn you and your slander who are ignorant of the call of Christ and do oppose it in them who obey it and call it sinful and you bring Scriptures to oppose it which will fall upon your own backs As for providing for our families 1 Tim. 5. 8. they are provided for by him who provides for us

cometh into the world and to be in all when the Scripture saith There is neither Greek nor Jew circumcision nor uncircumcision Barbarian Scythian bond nor free but Christ is all and in all Col. 3. 11. which Scripture doth plainly witness against you though you deny it to your shame who would reason against the infiniteness of Christ who filleth Heaven and Earth and here I charge you to be ignorant of the Scriptures and blinde guides And you undertake to open that place John 1. 9. In the beginning was the Word all things were made by him and in your opening of it you say this was not Christ nor a knowledge of Christ as Mediator nor a light sufficient to bring to salvation when John saith he came to bear witness to that light and that Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us and in him was life and the life was the light of men and this was the true light that inlightneth every one that cometh into the world and we saw his glory as the glory of the onely begotten Son of God full of grace and truth and John bare witness of him saying This is he of whom I spake He that cometh after me is preferred before me and this you deny to be Christ nor a knowledge of Christ nor a light sufficient to salvation but call it a created light and here you are witnesses against John and what he witnesseth of Christ and the sufficiency of the light of Christ to salvation and this is your opening of the Scriptures whereof all that read that Chapter of John may witness against you and your openings but by such openings as this do you shut the kingdom of heaven neither will enter in your selves nor suffer them that would And whereas you tell of James Naylers wicked blasphemy in affirming that Christ as man dwels in him I answer That is false and those words were not spoken by me for being asked If Christ as man dwelt in me my answer was that Christ I witness who is God and man which words you wrest to slander withal but speake not the words as they came from me and you make much a doe to prove that a natural light is not the light of Christ and thereby would make people beleeve that that light spoken of in the 1 of Iohn is a natural light but so plainly is your deceit layd open to any who know any thing of Christ that your arguments need no further answering Only whereas you would prove in Mat. 13. 11. To you it is given to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven to them it is not given there by you would inferre that Christ doth not enlighten every man I answer The light of Christ hath its degrees and measures so that though he be tendred a light to all yet all doe not receive that light nor walke in it but deny it and such come not up to the knowledge of the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven for only to them that received him to them he gave power so that denying the light you deny the power and abide in darkness and are out of the fear of God but the secret of the Lord is with them that fear him and whereas you call that a naturall light which enlightneth every man which cometh into the world and Iohn saith This is the true light which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world here you would make Iohn a lyar and Christ who is the true light to be natural and thus you wrest the Scriptures to your own destruction and all that beleeve you and you say the Apostle 1 of Cor. 2. 14. makes an opposition between naturall and spiritual light and puts an impossibilitie of discovering Christ by the light of nature I answer You bely the Apostle and bewrest his words as you do ours for the Apostle doth not speak there of a naturall light and a spirituall light for that which is naturall is darkness neither have you any Scripture to prove that to be a natural light which enlightens every one that coms into the world but ye children of darkness envy the light of Christ and would make people beleeve its natural and carnal And whereas you say That that mystery was hid from ages and generations It is true it was so but when Christ was manifest who was that light then it was revealed both by Iohn and Christ himselfe saying I am the light of the world he that followeth me shall not abide in darkness but shall have the light of life and whereas you are quarrelling with A. P. A. P. may do it with authority seeing you doe terme the light of Christ to be naturall for denying your distinction of naturall and spiritual light and you say the Lord Jesus and the Apostles are full for it yet have you not brought one Scripture to witness that light we speake of to be a naturall light but we have Christ and the Apostles witnessing against you it to be the light of Christ so that we have the authority of the Scriptures and yours is the novell opinions you speak of and for my saying that Christ must be in the vilest of the world to see the thoughts of the heart and judge the inward part or else how shall he judge righteous judgment upon every thought intent which come not forth into action this word which I spake of Christs being in the most vile you change to dwell in thus by deceit you change my words into your owne language and so go about to confute your own words but not mine as I spake them though I do not say Christ dwels in Hell yet the Scripture saith If I make by bed in Hell thou art there If you knew Christ you would know him that said so Psal 139. 8. and here you priests ignorance is discovered And here you say it is ridiculous to inferre that Christ dwels in all because he knows all things I answer For inferring and dwelling they are your own words but where he seeth any thing there he is present though you blinde creatures see him not but they who know him know that he is infinite and that he fils Heaven and Earth and his presence is the life of all Creatures Ephes 1. 23. and here I charge you to be them that hate the light and stumble Position 5. That Christ in the flesh with all he did and suffered therein was but a figure and nothing but an example And these words you say are expresly found in Sauls Errand which I deny and bring that Book to be a witness against you and that deceitfull Spirit that acts in you and for which you say I pretend neither to Conscience nor modesty that doth challenge you there with a lye I answer if those words that Christ with all he did was but a figure and nothing but an example be expresly found in Sauls Errand then you may say I have done you wrong and I shall confess