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A57953 Quakerism is paganism, by W.L.'s confession; in a book directed to Mr. N.L. citizen of London: or, Twelve of the Quakers opinions, called by W.L. The twelve pagan principles, or opinions; for which the Quakers are opposed to Christians examined and presented to William Penn. By W. R. a lover of Christianity. Russel, William, d. 1702.; Roberts, Daniel, 1658-1727. aut 1674 (1674) Wing R2358; ESTC R219761 57,659 96

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come in and sup with him c. Rev. 3. 20. This is the Supper of the Lord we witness it And about the Resurrection and Judgment to come he said I speak this from the Eternal God That the Resurrection is come the Judgment is come and I witness it And this very well agrees with Isaac Pennington's words in his Book of Questions about Christ p. 14. Now Friends if you would know or believe aright you must believe in him who was with the Father before the World was who was the Saviour the Jesus the Christ from Everlasting This we firmly believe c. Yea it is he to whom the name Jesus and Christ did of right belong before he took up the Body For that which he took upon him was our garment even the flesh and blood of our Nature which is of an earthly and perishing Nature But he is of an Eternal Nature and his flesh blood and bones are of his Nature viz. Eternal For that which redeems that which is Jesus the Saviour came down from Heaven page 20. que 7. que 8. Reader Not knowing how short my time may be I thought good to leave this to Posterity lest I should not have such another opportunity And will conclude with that saying of the Apostle Ye therefore beloved seeing ye know these things before beware lest ye also being led away with the errour of the wicked fall from your own stedfastness But grow in grace and the knowledg of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to him be glory both now and for ever Amen 2 Pet. 3. 17 18. AN APPENDIX SInce the finishing these Papers in answer to W. L. I have been earnestly importuned to write a few lines touching that great Question about the Lord Christ as it relates to the Quakers Opinion And to shew who it is to whom the name Christ doth properly belong And although I think my self a Child in the knowledg of such Divine and Metaphysical Truths compared with those Worthies of our Age whose parts and learned Acquirements may more amply fit them for such a Work Yet seeing they have hitherto omitted it I shall speak something to it hoping it may be an occasion to set some abler Pen on work to discourse more accurately upon this subject And by polishing what I have more briefly laid down they may make the Truth appear more perspicuously in its own Brightness and Splendor And I will give you the Question as it is laid down by Mr. PENN in the Barbican-Meeting and since printed and published by some of the chief Quakers in London viz. W. Mead J. Osgood W. Shewen E. Man S. Newton J. Claypool W. Welch W. P.'s Question is this Was he the Christ of God before he was manifested in the flesh Answ I answer He was never called the Christ of God before but with respect to what he was to be when and after he was manifested in the flesh To make this good I shall use this method 1. To explain what is meant by the word Christ 2. To shew that it is taken Relatively is a name of Office and as such applied to him 3. That this name cannot be properly and really applied to the Divine Nature taken Abstractively 4. That it doth properly and really belong to that Sacred Person who was Conceived by the Holy Ghost Born of the Virgin Mary and called by the name of Jesus of Nazareth 1. To explain what is meant by the word Christ It is a Derivative from the Hebrew and Greek the two Original Languages in which the Holy Scriptures were written The word in the Hebrew is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Mashiach in the Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Christos in the Latin Christus All which signifie in English Anointed Being derived from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ungo All signifying to Anoint 2. That it is taken Relatively and is a name of Office c. appears from the frequent use thereof in the Old-Testament and applied to Priests Prophets and Kings who were anointed with Oyl when they entred upon their Offices and therefore were called The Lord 's Anointed 1. To Priests Exod. 40. 13 14 15. And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy Garments and anoint him and sanctifie him that he may minister unto me in the Priests Office And thou shalt bring his sons and clothe them with coats and thou shalt anoint them as thou didst anoint their Father that they may minister unto me in the Priests Office And this was to be observed as a Rule throughout all their Generations 2. Touching the other two Offices of Prophet and King we find the same method used in both and that by the Command of God himself to the Prophet Elijah 1 Kin. 19. 15 16. And the Lord said unto him Go Anoint Hazael to be King over Syria And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be King over Israel And Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abel-Meh-lah shalt thou anoint to be Prophet in thy room Now that the name Christ is so applied to him viz. Relatively and as a name of Office I shall prove by shewing you 1. That he is called a Priest a Prophet and a King 2. That he was anointed by God the Father when he entred upon his Offices First That he is called a Priest These Scriptures following do sufficiently evince But Christ being come an High-Priest of good things to come Heb. 9. 11. The High-Priest of our Profession Christ Jesus Heb. 3. 1. This man because he continueth ever hath an unchangeable Priesthood Heb. 7. 24. Seeing then that we have a great High-Priest that is passed into the Heavens Jesus the Son of God let us hold fast our Profession For we have not an High-Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities but was in all points tempted like as we are yet without sin Heb. 4. 14 15. Secondly That he is called a Prophet Jesus of Nazareth which was a Prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people Luke 24. 19. And it shall come to pass that every Soul which will not hear that Prophet shall be destroyed from among the people Acts 3. 23. Thirdly That he is called a King Pilate called Jesus and said unto him Art thou the King of the Jews Jesus answered My Kingdom is not of this World Pilate therefore said unto him Art thou a King then Jesus answered Thou sayest that I am a King To this end was I born and for this cause came I into the World c. John 18. 33. 36 37. Nathaneel answered and saith unto him Rabbi thou art the Son of God thou art the King of Israel John 1. 49. Who is the blessed and only Potentate the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords 1 Tim. 6. 15. And he hath on his Vesture and on his Thigh a name written KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS Revel 19. 16. Secondly That Christ was Anointed by God the Father when he entred
came out of the Rock 5. It 's called A spiritual Rock because it was Typical of Christ and that the Believers among them did as truly partake of Christ by Faith spiritually as They the rest of the Multitude and their Cattel did drink of the water of the Rock literally And in the same sense that the MANNA is called Spiritual Meat vers 3. They did all eat the same spiritual Meat so is the water of the Rock called spiritual Drink They did all drink the same spiritual Drink Now we may not conclude from hence That that Rock was really Christ or that he was called Christ with respect to what he was before he was manifested in the flesh But on the contrary it 's to be understood of the Faith they had in the promised Messias that was to come whereof that Rock was a Type So that this manner of speaking agrees with that saying of our Saviour Abraham rejoyced to see my day and he saw it and was glad John 8. 56. which was not really by an Ocular view of his Person as being then present but by the Faith he had in the Promise that he should be revealed in the fulness of Time for it is said of Abraham and the rest of the Faithful mentioned Heb. 11. 13. These all died in Faith not having received the Promises but having seen them afar off and were perswaded of them The principal of which was The promise of the Messias that was to come Object But it may be objected That in Psal 2. 2. in the Latin Bible translated by Beza it is said Et contra Christum ejus And against his Christ And the like in Dan. 9. Therefore he is called Christ before he was manifested in the flesh I answer 1. It 's true he is called Christ Messiah and the Anointed in those places And if we will believe a very Learned Author of our time he saith The name of Messiah is but twice or thrice at most used in the Old-Testament directly and immediately to denote the promised Seed namely Dan. 9. 25 26. whereunto Psal 2. 2. may be added J. Owen D. D. Exercit. 9. on the Epistle to the Hebrews p. 95. So that these are all the places in the Old-Testament wherein he is so called 2. That it is also true That the word in the Hebrew is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Mashiach both in Psal 2. and Dan. 9. which signifies Anointed and is applied to our Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ So that I grant all that is in the Objection But it doth not thence follow That because he is is called so before that it doth not respect what he was to be when and after he was manifested in the flesh but the contrary is manifest by the scope of those Texts to any considering person For in Psal 2. it is said The Kings of the Earth have set themselves and the Rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his Christ Now in Acts 4. 25 26 27 28 29. upon the Threatnings they had from the Rulers Chief Priests and Elders c. they apply these very words upon that occasion Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said The Kings of the Earth stood up and the Rulers were gathered together against the Lord and against his Christ for of a truth against thy Holy Child Jesus whom thou hast Anointed both Herod and Pontius Pilate with the Gentiles and the People of Israel were gathered together for to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done And now Lord behold their Threatnings and grant unto thy servants that with all boldness they may speak thy Word By stretching forth thy hand to heal and that signs and wonders may be done by the Name of thy Holy Child Jesus So that you may see that this opposition in the Kings against Christ was upon the account of his being manifest in the flesh and introducing a new Doctrine and Religion in the World which set them in a rage against him and his Disciples And this is the plain meaning of this Text. And in Dan. 9. it 's said Know therefore and understand That from the going forth of the Commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off but not for himself And the People of the Prince that shall come shall destroy the City and the Sanctuary and the end thereof shall be with a flood and unto the end of the War desolations are determined All these things were yet to come when this was spoken and not fulfilled till the days of his flesh For here is his own death expresly prophesied of the destruction of Jerusalem and of the Temple and the Desolation of that Nation Object But it is objected by Geo. Keith But I prove that he was Jesus Christ before he took flesh Eph. 3. 9. Who created all things by Jesus Christ Reply 1. I grant That God did Create all things by Jesus Christ But it was as he was God and not as he is a man in the flesh And yet as such he was the Christ of God being Anointed with the Spirit as is shewed above 2. If this be true that G. K. saith That he was both Anointed and a Saviour before the World was 3. I would then know 1. How he came to be in a capacity to receive that Anointing seeing then he was only God 2. Who Anointed him seeing you say There is no distinction of Persons in the Divine Essence 3. What sinners were there for him to save before any thing was created For he is called Jesus because he came to save his People from their sins Matth. 1. 21. But I take this to be the genuine sense of that Text Ephes 3. 9. That he being then best known by the names of Jesus and Christ and known to be a real and true Man the Apostle would let them know that he was also truly God seeing he did Create all things But was so far from being Jesus Christ then that he saith the knowledg of his Revelation according to the Gospel was so great a Mystery and so little known that from the beginning of the World it hath been hid in God and was now revealed according to the Eternal purpose of God which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord Which in other Ages was not made known to the Sons of Men as it is now revealed unto his holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit as you may see at large in this Chapter So that he intends not by these words that he was then the Saviour Anointed any more than the Scripture doth intend he was really slain from the Foundation of the World and yet it is said so Rev. 13. 8. by him who calls things that are not as though they were because he hath decreed it and his Decrees shall be accomplished But by the same Rule G. K. might as