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A16909 A briefe treatise of diuers plaine and sure waies to finde out the truth in this doubtfull and dangerous time of heresie Conteyning sundrie worthy motiues vnto the Catholike faith, or considerations to moue a man to beleeue the Catholikes, and not the heretikes. Set out by Richard Bristow priest, licentiat in diuinitie. Bristow, Richard, 1538-1581. 1599 (1599) STC 3800; ESTC S106653 144,155 432

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knevv Yea a Religion that should compel their Maister and ours Christ himselfe God aboue all to be blessed for euer if he had chosen this time and our Countrey for to teach and worke in it mans saluation to haue held his peace and leaft his medling like a Foreiner as hee was and in no wise to haue behaued him-selfe like the Head of his owne Church vnlesse hee would haue also saied that he had bene the natural king of England and displaced the lawfull heires of the Kings afore-time and chaunged his talke to Pilate when he saied Regnum meum non est ae hoc mundo Ioan. 28. my kingdome is not of this world to haue sayed My Kingdome is of this world and thy Maister Cesar doth me wrong This must hee needes haue done I say by our nevv mens doctrine or not haue bin Head of his Church because by their saying that Headship cannot be seperated from the Kingship being as they say a real naturall and an essentiall part thereof Which their own saying themselues yet againe destroy by another saying of their own contrary to the former whiles that they professe as truth is our Prince to be King of France as well as of England and of Ireland and yet say not that he is Head of the Church of France but only of the Church of England and Ireland as euery man doth see in the King or Queenes vsuall Style Wherefore if any man thinke that Company vvhich breedeth and nourisheth such monsters such absurdities to haue any resemblance of Christes Church horribly blinded in his sight and his vnderstāding fouly darkened Communion of Saintes SVCH you see is the new inuented Church of England so streightnyng and coarctyng it selfe into the limittes of one Kingdome or Countrey that in it one Christyan man to another euen in Spirituall affayres is a stranger that in it an Ecclesiastical and Apostalicall povver erected by Christ is deemed a Foreiner that in it any General Councel that euer was or euer can be gathered of the Bishoppes of other Natyons of all Christendome yea or of theyr own confederates can take beare or haue no whit of authoritie that in it epistles directed from beyond the sea by Saint Paule himselfe such as his Epistles to the Romains Corinthians Galathians c. could beare no sway that in it all the Apostles togeather writing from theyr Synod of Hierusalem as they did to the Antiochians might beare no stroke that in it Christ himselfe without the King and the Parlaments consent might not dispose of his own Churches Into such wonderfull narrow straightes haue these men laced and pinched vp them-selues besides their precise dealing also about communion with the soules in Purgatory and the Saints in Heauen Consider then whether this be the Catholike and Vniuersall Church of Christ spread ouer all Nations descending vnto vs throughout al ages one the same both in earth and vnder earth and aboue earth and not that Church much rather yea most certainly by which euery faithfull man communicateth in all offices of Relygion with all others be they neuer so farre asunder be it in time or be it in place in which there is a perfitte participation and societie of all spirituall commodities and commandementes where seruing and obeying praying and working desiring and deseruing lacking and abounding trouble and comfort goeth in common The Church that all Christs enimies fight against CONSIDER againe what Church that is ours or the Protestantes which the tyrannicall Romaine Emperours of olde before their christendome did vexe and persecute and which to this day the Heathen the Turke and the Iewe doe acknowledge themseulues to be annoyed by VVhat company honoring Christ do they feare but ours What Church beareth off theyr brunt from the neck of Christendom but only ours Of what Church was our owne Countrie whē it in such holy warres ioyned with other countries of Christendome and got thereby immortal glorie And now that it is reuolted from the same Church what aide haue Christian Princes of it toward such warres Yea doth not all the world see that these go togeather them that fight against Heretikes the same to fight against Turks and they againe that maintaine Heretykes the same to fauour Turkes to be sory for theyr ouerthrowes to be glad of theyr preuailing for Christian Princes good successe to faine false bonefires for TVRKES good successe to shew forth mery heartes Of our Church I shewed afore that those Emperours afterward receaued theyr Baptisme therefore ours it vvas that they afore did persecute For so witnesseth the Prophet Esay that it is one Church Esa 60. and the same which they did first afflict and after adore Et venient ad te curui filij eorum qui humili●ue●●t te adorabunt vestigia pedum tuorum omnes qui detrahebant tibi vocabunt te Ciuitatem Domini Sion sancti Israel And there shal com vnto thee creeping and crouching the sonnes of them that afflicted thee and there shal adore thy footestepes all that blasphemed thee and they shal cal thee the Citie of our Lord the Syon of the holy one of Israel Seing it is euident I say that those Potentates neuer to no Church did this honour and Seruice but only to ours euydent also it is that our Church it vvas which afore they persecuted that Church Christes Church by the confession of al men therefore our Church Christes Church to the eye of such as are content to see Which yet again may be more plainly seene by this Motiue of S. Augustins by him proponed amōgst many others to the Heathens to moue them to be Christians Vid●tis Epist 42 ipsas huius saeculi potestates quae aliquando pro simulachris populum Christianum persequebantur victas domitas non a repugnantibus sed a morientibus Christianis ●●ntra eadem simulachra pro quibus Christianos occidebant impetus suos legesque vertisse Imperij nobilissimi eminētissimū culmē ad sepulchrū piscatoris Petri submisso diademate supplicare You see the very Potestates of this world which once for Idolles did persecute the Christian people ouercome and tamed not by the resisting but by the dying of Christians both against the same Idoles for which they killed the christians to haue turned their forces and their lawes and also the high●st top of the most noble Empire at the Sepulchre of Peter the fisher submitting his Croune to mak supplication By this it is euident I say that our Religion it is to which from their former Paganisme those Emperours were conuerted and to which S. Augustine would haue those other Heathens to conuert And farder yet in the same kind of motiue you may cōsider what church it was which all HERETIKES likewise euer impugned but neuer preuayled Which very note of his Church our Sauiour giueth Mat. 16. Portae inseri non praeualebunt adue●sus eam The gates of Hel shall not preuaile against it Was it then against the
shou●d haue cut of from his body for to s●ue the whole so most principal but rotten part therof who therefore with his Natural affection that said Quos iterum parturio donec formetur Christus in vobit Gal. 4. with you againe I go in trauaile vntill Christ be fashoned in you do al their endeuour make sute to man beseech the partie in himselfe or by his more interiours aboue al things at Gods feete cast themselues downe praying him euery houre day night with sighing and weeping when one is weary another succeding in his place 2. Ma● 13. v. 10. Act. 12. v. ● al houres I say of the night no lesse then of the day so to make a continual clamour in the ears of God our most merciful Father that wee may see by reconciliation our so principall a member healed set againe in his place being then most ready to do him againe al honour seruice in heart also and mind that may be due vnto him neither in the Meane tyme denying him such loue and worship as we may Contrariwise to consider on the other side what Church is that vvhich riseth by disobedience to both the Swordes which counteth all Regiment of women to be monstrous vvhich standeth by traiterous murdering of great Persons by wast and destruction of cities countries and Kingdomes which violently displaceth vnfaithfully rebelleth against and openly with-standeth all Power though it be confessed to be most lawful of the Sect it selfe Yea of the catholiks though discharged of their fealtie yet for common humanity for their accustomed vse for their continuall and as it were naturall institution the Prince better obeied more faithfully serued by his own approbation and all mens sight then of the Puritans them-selues and Protestants which in maner all in heart be Puritans who yet would seme to beleeue in conscience that hee is not only Head of their Realme but also supreame Gouernour of their Church but in very deede they beleue as their man of God Martin Luther other Goodmen haue taught them that he is neither the one nor the other meaning in hart and truth with their Anabaptistes no better to the State ciuil then to the Ecclesiastical Whereby both honourable Princes with their graue Counsels and all other men may see vvho they be that both teach and folow S. Paules doctrine of obedience to Superiours who they be againe Rom. 13. that S. Iude in his liuely description of Heretikes calleth ●●d Contemners of Lordship Blasphemers of Maiestie The Church to which Princ●s doe Homage IT may be more-ouer considered for what Church all iust Princes Emperours and Potentates hold their swords to what Church they haue dedicated theyr fidelitie to vvhat Church they haue from theyr first conuersion giuen such immunities exemptions honours and prerogatiues of vvhat Church they hold their seuerall Title of Christianitie as to be called one Christian another Catholike another defender of the faith and so forth in what Church the Prophecie of Esay is fulfilled Et erunt Reges nutri●● tui Esai 49. Reginae nutrices tuae vultu in terram demisso adorabunt te puluerem pedum tuorum lingent And Kinges shall be thy fosterers and Queenes thy nurces looking demurely with their eies on the ground shall they worshipp thee and the dull of thy feet shal they licke And againe Esai 60. Et aedificabunt silij peregrinorum muros tuos Reges eorum ministrabunt tibi And the sonnes of strangers that is of the Gentils shall build thy walles and their Kinges shall doe seruice vnto thee Et aperientur portae tuae iugiter die ac nocte non daudentur vt asseratur ad●e fortitudo gentium Reges earum addu●antur Gens enim regnum quod non seruierit tibi peribit And thy gates shall stand open continually day and nyght shall not they be shut that vnto thee they may be brought the very strength of the Gentyls and that vnto thee theyr Kinges may comme For the Nation and Kingdome that wil not serue thee shal surely perish Consider therefore what Church it is which conformably to these Prophecies hath brought the mighty Princes of the vvorld Kingdomes of the earth and States of Common-wealthes to submit their Septers vnder Christ our Lord Gouernement of his Church to vvhat Church the very Romaine Emperours before most cruel tyrants and for three hundred yeares togeather Persecutours of the Church straight vpon their conuersion euē then when they were Lords of all this world yealded vp theyr very Imperial City of Rome with the whole most large and mighty Country of Italie and translated their owne State into an other part of the world giuing place to his Vicar by whom in him they had bene Christened the only worke of our Sauiour Christ Lord of all and GOD omnipotent so to bring into his Church and submitte vnto it the very Strength of the Gentils and so mightily to bring Satan himselfe vnder the Feete of the Romaine Christians This Church you may see hath as it should doe ruled with Lavv and discipline all states of people it hath faithful Princes no lesse subiect vnto it then the people as obedient children as the people euen so as God foretold promised and ordayned that they should be Neuer therefore exempted it Emperour Prince or Potentate of the earth from his due obedience to Gods Church and lawfull Ptstours Consider on the other side vvhat Church is that where all is contrary the Prince not only not taught obedyence to the Church humilitie seruice vnder payne of himselfe and his Realme to perish but fondly seduced miserablye deceaued and flattered aboue measure with the very Title of head Supreme Gouernour of the Church The Parlament Church VVHEREVPON you may consider againe by the sequele of most foule absurdities following thereof vvhat Church that is where lawes be made to charge Peter him-selfe if he there were liuing to giue vp his commission receaued of Christ and take another of the King or Queen to ch●rge both him and all his fellowes the other Apostles of God our Sauiour to change that true seruice of God which they had receaued to minister of another sort which the King or Queen or Parlamēt or law of the countrie should prescribe vnto them to put S. Augustine to fine to the Queene one hundred Markes for saying Masse for his Mothers soule to leese his Bishopricke to liue and dye in prison for the same and for calling counting Aerius an Heretike for holding against it and for many other points of their faith both hee and all the other Holy Fathers fayne to leese all and to giue place to certaine new Maisters that had bene from hence at the Apostles going so long a iourney without any footing in the way and as the Philosophers spake transeuntes de termino in terminum sine medio and from thence fetched vs a nevv Religion that they neuer