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A85260 A reply to Benjamin Bird's ignorance, folly, &c. By him dedicated to his ingenious and very loving friend, Mr. William Clap of Abbots Wootton. Field, John, 1652-1723. 1695 (1695) Wing F864B; ESTC R177044 12,425 16

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A REPLY to BENJAMIN BIRD's Ignorance Folly c. By him dedicated to his Ingenious and very Loving Friend Mr. William Clap of Abbots Wootton SOlomon gives an account of one that is wiser in his own Conceit than 7 Men that can render a Reason and tells us there is more Hopes of a Fool than of him And also aptly saith A whip for a horse a bridle for an ass and a rod for the fool's back But when by many fit Comparisons he hath set him forth and shewn how unfit he is to send a Message by declares the great God that formed all things will both reward the Fool and Transgressors And therefore I doubt not but he will reward him whose Folly and Conceit Pride and Enmity hath brought him to that Pitch to account others ignorant and nonsensical and himself a great Discoverer which indeed I must grant he is of his own Folly c. And because I am not willing any should take this upon my Authority only I shall offer the following Considerations and leave it to the truly wise and judicious to determine I. Considering what Solomon saith It is an honour for a man to cease from strife but every fool will be meddling And again He that meddleth with strife belonging not to him is like one that taketh a dog by the ears and as a mad-man who casteth fire-brands arrows and death Prov. 26.18 II. Now this Man's Coat considered and whose Cause he espouseth I leave to the Judicious to determine how aptly these Scriptures are applyed to him and how it becomes him to be Advocate for the Presbyterians But if his Conceit which is generally a Companion of Folly was so great that the Quakers Book could not be effectually answered till he had term'd 2 of them Nonsensical I must confess his Conceit have exceeded his Proofs Thus much to his Folly And now as to his Pride let him consider what Solomon saith He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife and if the scorner was cast out strife would cease And as little Sense as he esteems the Quakers to have they can by his Pamphlet discern that his Pride and Contempt against the Light within shews his Enmity and bespeaks him an Evil-Doer for as Christ said it 's such as hate the Light And he writes in defence of him that said The Light within is the great Diana by whom the Jacks of all Traders have their Wealth Hence it is that these Crafts-Men speak so honourably of the Idol great is the Quakers Light within Thus like Herod and Pilate the Presbyterian Libeller and this Episcopalian Priest tho' I esteem not all of his Mind can combine together to vent their Scorn and Enmity against that he calls the Quakers Light within which they always affirmed to be no other but the Light of Jesus Christ who is the true light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world and was before they were and will be when all they that hare him shall be confounded he shall appear to our joy and they that hate him shall be ashamed Isa 66. Now having premised this I shall proceed to his Pamphlet more for the sake of the tender and well inclined People in Exon and elswhere that may meet therewith than for this Officious Scribler's sake And that People's Understandings may be opened to see how such Teachers that hate the Light and that are found in the Spirit and Practice of the false Prophets can never profit them at all altho by using the good Men's Words that loved and walked in the Light they get gain the thing that too many of them more seek than Godliness And I hope those that peruse this will like the noble Bereans search the Scriptures and see whether these things are so or not I. Page 2. he saith Sir I have according to your Desire perused a Paper printed by John Feild and J. Batt called A Reply to an Atheistical Libeller The Author whom they so call they charge with concealing his Name and then asks this Question How then do they know him to be an Atheistical Libeller Answer By his writing atheistically as may be seen in the 10th page of his and the 2d and 8th of my Scorner rebuked But this Volenteer of the Church of England that comes to engage in the Presbyterian's Quarrel is so eager to fall on and scornful as to term us Nonsensical although he had not the Book by him But he at the Close of that Paragraph hath quoted a Scripture that may well suit him which I return Though judgments are prepared for scorners yet stripes are for the back of fools for would ever any but such an one have taken the Pains and exposed himself as he hath to answer a pitiful Pamphlet writ as he saith by two of the Nonsensical Brotherhood But what kin he is to that Brotherhood his Works bespeak him and I may herein after shew For In his 2d page He tells his Ingenious and worthy Friend Mr. William Clapp of Abbots Wootton because my Friend J. Batt wrote a few Lines by way of Posts That these Gentlemen hunt by Couples as if they had learn'd of their Friends on the other side the Water Answer I hope his ingenious Friend and others will have so much Ingenuity as to see the Silliness as well as Malice of this Insinuation for I doubt not but to give as many and substantial Proofs if need required of being remote in Spirit Doctrine and Practice from those on the other side i. e. Rome as himself and let his worthy Friend examine his Call to the Ministry he pretends unto and see if he flies not to the other Side of the Water for Proof He also saith Page 1. They charge Men with want of Allegiance to Christ that hold it impossile while they are here perfectly to keep his Commands or to live without transgressing God's Laws Answer From hence I shall take occasion to repeat what he writ that this Parson writes in defence of viz. the nameless Libeller I answered In his Preface he writ scurrilously and scornfully and brought in a Quotation out of Dr. Moor's Mystery of Godliness as he said which he grosly perverted and thereby abused both the Doctor and us in adding the Word Quakerism which is not there instead of Familism as may be seen by those that will search the Doctor 's Book p. 533. The Doctor doth not say Quakerism but Familism is a meer Flam of the Devil a smooth Tale to seduce the simple from their Allegiance to Christ. From whence I observed how they insinuated That Allegiance was due to Christ and he consequently must be a King or Ruler Yet said I how many are alledging that its impossible while we are here to keep Christ's Commands This was to shew their Inconsistency with their own Pretensions and Doctrine first that Allegiance i. e. Truth and Faithfulness ought to be the Practice as 't is the Duty of Christ's Disciples and God's
Libeller and charges him with Blasphemy against the Light within which he saith is no other than the Light of Christ Jesus But this had need be well proved Answer I hope those that read my Answer will find in p. 5 6 7 8. I have proved by Scripture-Testimony That the Life in the Word by which all things were made is the true Light that lighteth every Man that cometh into the World or as it may be read the true Light that enligtneth every Man that cometh into the World And it was this Light within or the Light of Christ within that Jos Nott whom he quotes exhorted his Reader to mind or believe in And I hope he is excusable for this it being according to Christ's Doctrine and to what is said in the Common-Prayer for this Priest himself at the Celebration of the Communion is directed to say to the Communicants That we dwell in Christ and Christ in us we are one with Christ and Christ is one with us And if Christ be in us then the Light is in us for he is the Light of the World And this I shewed in my former But if B. Bird had not my Book by him when he wrote it and did it on Memory he might forget And in p. 2. he confesses I have not the Book by me at present but to the best of my remembrance c. But Benj. Bird saith this had need be well proved and adds 'T is not enough for Men to say 't is the Light of Christ But let me ask this learned Doctor If he hath obtained that Title what need I have to prove it when he hath not taken the Confidence here to deny it but quotes Luke 16.15 If the Light that is in thee be darkness how great is that darkness And then saith This may be your Case Answer And it may not for that which may be may not be and I may return Prov. 18.7 and say If a fools lips enter into contention and his mouth calleth for Stroaks This may be thy Case 3. p. 3. B. Bird saith I charge the Dissenters with coming to Church to save their 20 l per Month. Answer The occasion I mentioned this was because the Libeller said thus That since they i. e. Quakers felt the warmth of Toleration they swarmed among us which savoured so much of Enmity and a Persecuting Spirit That I told him we also had felt the Lashes and Severity of his Brethren the Heat of their Anger for it was fierce the Warmth of their Wrath for it was cruel who did both Whip Brand cut off Ears and Hanged in New England when Power was in their Hands And how their Meeting-houses were empty and shut up their Preachers absconded their Flocks scattered in time of Persecution And then Paul's Basket was remembred then their Christian Policy was us'd then to Church for fear of 20 l per Month or lest they should be excommunicated and suffer Imprisoment But this officious Advocate seems offended at this and saith p. 3. The most learned of the Dissenters hold it lawful to joyn with us in our publick Worship tho' they count it their Duty to improve their Talents and not hide them in a Napkin now they have the Countenance of Authority to preach the Gospel in licensed Houses Answer Observe first the account this Man gives of the Presbyterian Preachers and how he renders them like that unfaithful Servant the Lord judged See Matt. 25.25 and Luke 19.24 for hiding his Talent for he grants that when they had not the Countenance of Authority they hid their Talents in a Napkin but now they have it preach the Gospel in licensed Houses Secondly Observe he grants they Preach the Gospel and then what are those and their Portion that at any time Persecute such for that Cause surely the Men of this Man's Coat will not thank him for this for if the Church of England have imprisoned Persons for Preaching of the Gospel what doth this less than render them Persecutors So his Officiousness in this Case with these Notes I shall leave to the Determination of the unprejudiced Concerning what this Author saith of the Light within which we believe in and profess viz. Jesus Christ the true light and only begotten Son of the Eternal God I shall next take notice of Page 4. he saith This Light the Eunuch had not and therefore Philip did not send him to it 2. And when Christ was risen from the Dead and travelled with the two Disciples towards Emmaus he did not send them to the Light in their own Hearts and Consciences to know him by 3. Page 5. The Jews were directed by the Light within to kill the Disciples of our Lord and thought they did God good Service in doing it 4. Men may follow such a Light within into the Land of Darkness 5. there are many things needful for Men to know which we cannot attain unto by the Light within 6. That Light which is in him i. e. John Feild was not before the Scriptures for if it be worthy the Name of Light it came from the Scriptures Answer I deny all this and if B. Bird intends all these Exceptions against that Divine Light which the People called Quakers profess to believe in and which their Teachers are sent of God to turn People's Minds unto and which they exhort People to mind and believe in he is as blasphemous as the Libeller he writes in Defence of whom I in my former blamed for scoffing at the Light of Jesus Christ See page 4. And seeing in page 4. of B. Bird's he saith I should have so much Charity as to think that the Author doth not think it to be the Light of Christ I farther say if that Author did not nor this Author doth not intend the Light of Jesus Christ which lighteth every Man that cometh into the World and which God sent Paul to turn People to See Acts 26.18 And which Christ preach'd John 12.46 and which he exhorted to believe in see John 12.36 For it is he that we Preach Believe in and expect Salvation by and by no other Name nor Light and if this Author means not this Light the means not the Light we believe in and profess but if he means and intends this Light i. e. Jesus Christ I absolutely deny every one of them as aforesaid and hereby charge him to be a Blasphemer and return on him what he saith to me about this Light in p. 3. 'T is not enough for Men to say 't is not the Light of Christ that we have within or that shines in ours and all Men's Hearts and manifest to all reprovable things and shews what is Good and what is Evil that doth that for every Man that the Scriptures of themselves nor no Man can do for another I say it s not enough to say this is not the Light of Christ or Christ the true Light that lighteth every Man that cometh into the World but by