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A54155 Judas and the Jews combined against Christ and his followers being a re-joynder to the late nameless reply, called, Tyranny and hypocrisie detected, made against a book, entituled The spirit of Alexander the Coppersmith rebuked, &c. which was an answer to a pamphlet, called, The spirit of the hat, in which truth is cleared from scandals, and the Church of Christ, in her faith, doctrine, and just power and authority in discipline is clearly and fully vindicated against the malicious endeavours of a confederacy of some envious professors and vagabond, apostate Quakers / by ... William Penn ; to which are added several testimonies of persons concern'd. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1307; ESTC R23117 100,153 131

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World even as I am not of the World Do you call this Blasphemy Then why do you thus seek after my Life and publish Books to set the Magistrates and Ignorant upon me but I will stand to my Tesitmony of my Lord and Saviours Words though you call his Words Blasphemy it is which I desire all People to read and see whether the Spirit of Christ be the Guide of these Men's Actions or the Spirit of Envy for they that have not the Spirit of Christ are none of his but the Spirit of Christ Jesus and of the Lamb which is in G. F. and the Holy Brethren the Heirs of Eternal Life will fall heavy upon these Men yea this Stone which they reject and set at naught will grind them to Powder Mat. 21.44 And farther Christ faith in the same Chapter I pray not that thou shouldst take them out of the World but that thou wouldst keep them from the Evil Jo. 17. and mark J. P. and Baptists and the Spirit of the Hat Hyproscrise Tyranny detect who would tyranize over Christ's Testimony concerning his Saints and Followers then and now as your Fore-Fathers did In the 16th Verse Christ saith They are not of the World even as I am not of the World c. which I keep the Testimony of Jesus and know the Truth that he speaks and do not give Titles to none of his Saints to G. F. nor none beyond what Christ hath spoken and therefore be ashamed who profess your selves Christians call Christ's Words Blasphemy And farther Christ sayes That they all may be one as thou Father art in me I in thee that they may be all one in us And the Glory which thou gavest me I have given them that they may be one as thou Father and I am one I in them and thou in me that they may be perfect in One. And moreover John saith in his 1. Epistle Chap. 4. Ye are of God little Children and have overcome because Greater is he that is in you then he that is in the World They are of the World therefore the World heareth them We are of God he that knoweth and heareth God heareth us he that is not of God heareth not us hereby know we the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error Beloved let us love one another for Love is of God and every one that loveth is born of God and knoweth God and he that loveth not knoweth not God for God is Love And it is very like John the Divine had such Spirits as L. Muggleton J. Pennyman and the Baptists and other to deal withal as I have now And Christ my Lord saith to his Saints and Apostles If the World hate you you know it hated me before it hated you If you were of the World the World would love its own but because ye are not of the World but I have chosen you out of the World therefore the World hates you Jo. 15. Remember the Words that I said unto you The Servant is not greater then his Lord Mat. 40.24 but Christ saith Every one that is Perfect shall be as his Master Luke 6.40 If they persecute me they will also persecute you if they kept not my sayings they will not keep yours Here you may see how that you are not the Keepers of Christ's Sayings but the Persecutors of them that do Ye are my Friends saith Christ if you do what I command c. and saith Christ henceforth I call you not Servants but my Friends for the Servant knoweth not what the Lord doth but I have called you Friends c. Jo. 15.14 You have chosen me but I have chosen you and have ordained you c. And again you say in your Tyranny and Hypocrisie detected that I should say Blessed be the Man that came out of the North Blessed be the Womb that bare him the Paps that gave him suck As to the Former Words I might speak them but the Latter Words once applyed to Christ I do not remember I spake them But herein ye shew your Malice for had a Cursing Man like Muggleton come out of the North such a one would have fitted you J. Pennyman Baptists but Blessed be God I can say He is Blest for God hath Blest him And I can say He is Blest though you do speak Evil with Muggleton against him and others Curse them whom God hath blest and Christ doth bless his People Mat. 5. Glory to the Lord and you cannot curse that which God hath blest and Christ and the Apostles say Bless Curse not and you are offended for my Obeying Christ's and the Apostles Command manifesting What Spirit you are of And was it not Christ which Saul persecuted and thou you Saul like persecute him now yea that true Christ by whom the World was made in his Saints and Holy Ones under a Pretence of following the Lord faithfully but it is manifest that it is the Worlds God you have followed out of whose Mouth comes forth such Envy and Malice But it had been better for thee John Pennyman and thy Confederates that a Milstone had been hanged about thine and their Neks Luk. 17.2 then to have lifted up Tongue or Pen against God's Truth People who art in Muggleton's Spirit speaking against the Truth who art like an old Apostate twice dead pluct up by the Roots if so then how canst thou grow but art gone out amongst the Dogs Vomiting Biting and Devouring And J. Pennyman thou boasts in some of thy Papers of speaking the Word of the Lord suppose it were so Balaam had the Word of the Lord and after was cut off And was not Judas and Apostle Partaker of the Ministry And art not thou turned a Judas and now seekst to betray the Innocent yea to Death if thou couldst according to the Sayings of our Lord Jesus Christ A Brother shall betray a Brother to Death Mat. 10.21 as thou hast done as much as in thee lies like a False Brother in sending thy Papers to Barbodoes where the Baptists and Professors running up and down with them to the Justices of Peace who would have tryed me for my Life Blood-thirsty Men And one Justice of the Peace said that if S Eccles were not hanged he would be hanged for him their Rage was so high against me by Reason of thy Pamphlets but I stayed at the Bridg Town where the Court sat waiting looking every day to be called to my Tryal but the Court broke up and I was not called nor medled withall in the least so the Blood-thirsty Baptists and others their Consederates J. Pennyman's Correspondents mist their Ends. Though the Baptists themselves did confess to the same things here which thou and the Baptists call Blasphemy now yet it is no marvel for Christ our Lord was called a Blasphemer who said that which I testified to in Jo. 17. And as for all J. Pennyman's unsavory Speeches in his Abusive Pamphlets and
Ingenuous to have sent Lodowick Muggleton's Principles with my Challenge to Barbadoes that People might know the Occasion of mY so speaking to Muggleton that wicked Blasphemer who said That the Eternal God died and lef● Moses and Elias to keep Cou●t in Heaven till he rose again and that the Holy Ghost and the Spirit died in the Grave and that God sent him to Curse And that they whom he curse are curst to all Eternity and God cannot revoke it But Christ siath that with God all things are possible Mat. 19.26 And now whereas I am falsely accused by John Pennyman the Apostate who is out of the Bounds of Christianity as aforesaid or as a Man a Neighbour and publisht in Print as a Blasphemer behind my Back when I was gone beyond the Seas and he sent his Books and Pamphlets to Barbadoes and to Jamaica and other places in America after me to raise up Persecution against me yet this Pennyman did never so much as speak to me before he had published the said Book And thus he hunts after my Life as the Pharisees did after my Lord and I know nothing of Reason why this J. P. would have Blood but being gone from the Truth in himself seeks the Life of me who keep in Truth which he is gone from Also he hath set the Baptists at Work in Barbadoes Blood-thirsty Men who sought my Life there who read his Pamphlet before hundreds of People and One of these was Tho. Hatchman Baptist Preacher who is a Protest Enemy to the Light of Christ Jesus within for there was one askt him what that was in him which shewed him his Sin he said he did not know She said she must know and she would know he said it is the Devil for ought he knew And what are these Baptists here which thou hast set at work or given Occasion for it And what is Muggleton but an Adversary of Jesus Christ who boasted that he had cursed G. F. and said God nor Christ could not revoke it in his Book entituled a Looking Glass for G. Fox which neither J. P nor the Spirit of the Hat nor Tyranny and Hypocrisie detected takes notice of but they can swallow down Muggleton's Blasphemy and will not call that Blasphemy therefore I challenged L. Muggleton who curst G. F. whom God had blest And in my Challenge I told him he was not worthy to take G. Fox's Name into his Mouth who was a Prophet of the Lord indeed and hath been faithful in the Lord's Business from the Beginning which I and many other faithful Witnesses know to be true And there were Prophets before the Law in the Law and after Christ and now according to the Promise of God which have been persecuted and spoken Ill against as thou dost now and Muggleton who curses them And farther I said it was said of Christ he was in the World and the World was made by him and the World knew him not whom John said he was not and this I say is true and no Blasphemy as my words farther concerning G. F. were so it may be said of this True Prophet But what is that I said of him that may be called Blasphemy because I say it may be said of G. F. a true Prophet to Muggleton that curses hin and the World knows him not though he is in the World but the World knows J. P. the World will not hate him but Christ saith marvel not if the World hate you Jo. 15 18. for it hated me I am not of the World nor you are of the World And is not this true Scripture Is this Blasphemy And doth not the Apostle say that ye are not of the World for if you were of the World the World would hear you 1 Jo. 4.6 but because ye are not of the World therefore they hear you not but the World can hear J. Pennyman without any Hatred but hate them that are of Christ And must not all be made like unto the Son of God Heb. 7.3 and made Conformable to his Image but if I had said as the Men of God said viz. as Christ is so are we in this World Joh. 1.4 7. or if I had said that He that sanctifieth and They who are sanctified they are one Heb. 2.11 And if I had said I live yet not I but Christ liveth in me Gall. 2.20 Then would not J. P. and the Baptists and the Hat Spirit and Tyranny Hypocrisie detected have cryed Blasphemy Blasphemy Blasphemous Titles for I did not say nor did I ever believe that the World was made by G. F. but by Christ who was in the World and the World knew him not So I say it may be said of G. F. the World knows him not though he be in the World as was said of Christ he was in the World though not of the World and the World knew him net And he said of his Followers ye are not of the World as I am not of the World Jo. 17.16 And I have chosen you out of the World Jo. 15.19 And this is called Blasphemy by J. Pennyman and his Company who are Haters of Christ and Persecutors of his Members witness the Baptist Preacher in Barbadoes who said That which convinced of Sin was the Devil for ought he knew before a Man and his Wife who were People of good Repute in Barbadoes And so People may see what Manner of Men these are who persecute both in Barbadoes and here in England and call Christ's Words Blasphemy for I did not say that G. Fox was Christ not that the World was made by G. Fox but this I do stand to that he many others are not of the World but Christ hath chosen them out of the World and therefore it may be said of G. F. hundreds more the World knows him not nor them Jo. 1.3 as it doth not know Christ and Christ sayes the same And as for all your Evil Language as Lucifer and Foxonia●●s c. we know we must have all Manner of Evil spoken of us for Christ's sake Mat. 5.11 but can say the Lord forgive you if it be his Will But it is much that J. Pennyman and his Confederates have not published against Christ and his Apostles as his Fore-fathers did and cast them Blasphemous Titles and call them Lucifers for Christ calls his Children the Light of the World Mat. 5.14 and a City and the Salt of the Earth and Sons of God and the Light in the Lord and Elect before the World began 1 Pet. 1.2 and they did not live but Christ lived in them And he bath made us Kings and Priests to God his Father and we shall reign upon the Earth Rom. 1.5 And what are all these Blasphemous Titles And these are higher Titles then I spake of G. F. I spake Christ's Words as in John 17. I have given them thy Word and the World hateth them Mark J. Pennyman and Baptists because they are not of this