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A65422 Popery anatomized, or, A learned, pious, and elaborat treatise wherein many of the greatest and weightiest points of controversie, between us and papists, are handled, and the truth of our doctrine clearly proved : and the falshood of their religion and doctrine anatomized, and laid open, and most evidently convicted and confuted by Scripture, fathers, and also by some of their own popes, doctors, cardinals, and of their own writers : in answer to M. Gilbert Brown, priest / by that learned, singularly pious, and eminently faithful servant of Jesus Christ M. John Welsch ...; Reply against Mr. Gilbert Browne, priest Welch, John, 1568?-1622.; Craford, Matthew. Brief discovery of the bloody, rebellious and treasonable principles and practises of papists. 1672 (1672) Wing W1312; ESTC R38526 397,536 586

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the light of the Gospel shine among us which mauger many oppositions he hath alwayes kept among us in purity to this day expecting that we should have brought forth the fruits thereof But alace was ever a people followed with so much mercy and gave such evil recompence and unanswerable dealing to the Lords goodness as we have done Was ever more wickedness and prophanity among a people then is among us Is not many very ignorant of GOD and the way of salvation holden out in the Gospel notwithstanding of all the pains that have been taken on them Hath not prophanity like Jordan overflowed all its banks I know not if there be so much swearing drinking whooring blasphemy revelling c. among Heathens that never heard of the Gospel as is among us And is there not an universal almost contempt and undervaluing of the Gospel and a deriding and mocking of Religion Many are now grown so Atheistical that they have casten off all fear of GOD Heaven Hell or regard of salvation or damnation Did GOD threaten to remove Ephesus candlestick out of its place because of falling from her first love And ought we not to tremble lest ours be removed Did he threaten to spew Laodicea out of his mouth because of lukewarmness and being neither cold nor hot and can we conceive that he will spare us who are so universally lukewarm Did GOD cut off the Jews who were the natural branches for their unfruitfulness and other sins and suppose we that he will spare us Is it enough to constitut a Reformed Protestant to cast off the idolatry error and superstition of the Church of Rome and not also to reform from the prophanity and wickedness that reigns in the world and to use all endeavors to have our conversation according to the Gospel For the great end of the appearing of the grace of GOD in the Gospel is to teach us to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live soberly righteously and godly in this present life c. The Magdeburg Century-Writers in praefat ad Cent. 5. observe that before Antichrist came to his hight and infected the Christian world with his idolatry these following iniquities reigned every where Verbi Divini contemptus c. The contempt and depravation of the Word of the LORD the inventing and defending of corruptions the toleration and reverencing of seducers the persecution and oppression of faithful Teachers and finally Epicurism and collusion with the ungodly upon which followed as a deserved punishment the substitution of humane traditions in place of GODS Word the giving liberty and rewards to impostors the hindering the confession of the truth the giving over to a reprobat sense and to blindness and being deceived by the efficacious illusions of the Devil which punishments were accompanied with idolatry superstitious worship Phanatick and more then Ethnick furies also civil punishments and calamities on the Kingdoms and Common-wealths in which these sins did abound The Author of the Book intituled Consideratio causarum Belli Bohemici points out the abounding among them of the subsequent sins as one main cause of the destruction of Bohemia by Antichrist The chief sins saith he part 2. pag. 24. that abounded in Bohemia before its devastation were as the godly often confessed ingratitude and unthankfulness for the Gospel and contempt of the Ministery that they did not esteem it as became excess in meat and clothing especially in great persons oppression of their subjects and smal care of the poor doing to their neighbor what they would not had them doing to them remissness and slackness in discipline and giving a licence to sin but especially cold rifeness and lukewarmness in reference to the interest of Christ and defence and maintenance of the Gospel Now if God was so provoked by these above-mentioned sins that he gave up almost all the Christian world to the delusions of Antichrist and removed his Candlestick from Bohemia which was such a famous Church and had witnessed for the truth against Antichrist for so long a time may we not tremble lest he be provoked to give up with us Is not the Word and Ordinances much contemned and despised among us Have not many errors and corruptions sprung up and like a flood overspred many places in these Lands Was there ever more ingratitude and unthankfulness for the Gospel and contempt of the Ministery among a people then is among us Is not gluttony drunkenness vanity of apparel and oppression turned Epidemick among all ranks and degrees of persons Were ever any more coldrife and lukewarm in reference to the interests of Christ then we are Yea we are guilty of many of these things for which the Lord threatneth to depart and to remove his Candlestick as will appear if we a little consider some of the special sins that the Lord threatneth with his removeal 1. Ignorance of God and of the necessary truths of the Gospel is threatned with his removeal Jer. 6.8 Be instructed O Jerusalem lest my soul depart from thee c. Isai 27.11 It is a people of no understanding therefore he that made them will have no mercy on them and he that formed them will show them no favor Now for all the light of the Gospel that hath shined among us these hundred years and above the Word being line upon line precept upon precept c. yet what gross and palpable ignorance is every where to be found the generality of people ignorant even of the fundamentals of Religion 2. Barrenness and unfruitfulness under the Gospel is threatned with the removeal thereof Isai 5.6 7. I looked for grapes but behold wild grapes And now go to I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard I will take away the hedge thereof and it shal be eaten up and breakdown the wall thereof and it shal be troden down And I will lay it waste it shal not be pruned nor digged c. The fig tree that was three years fruitless is commanded to be cut down Luke 13.7 And the earth that drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it and bringeth forth nothing but thorns and thistles is rejected and near unto cursing Heb. 6.8 Now was ever people more rained upon then we And yet is there any that is more barren and unfruitful then we are Are not the most part of us empty vines that bring forth fruit to themselves How few are there that the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath taught to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live soberly righteously and godly to be crucified to the flesh with the lusts and affections thereof to have their conversation in heaven 3. Slighting loathing and wearying of the precious things of God and of his Ordinances is a sin for which the Lord threatens to remove from a people Amos 8.4.5.6.9 11.12 Hear this O ye that swallow up the needy c. saying When will the new Moon be gone that we may sell corn and the
Babel and therefore one day she shal be recompensed for all her iniquity Rev. 17.6 and 18.24 Go out of her therefore and save thy soul that thou be not tormented in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone with her for evermore Rev 18.45 Otherwise I call heaven and earth to witness against thee that thou shalt die in her sin and the smoke of thy torment shal ascend for evermore Rev. 14.1 What now will you say to these things that your Church is not the Catholick Church but a part of it only and is only Catholick because of the Catholick doctrine that she professes But if this be true wherefore then did your general Council condemn it in John Hus and burn him for that doctrine which both your self must confess to be true and is agreeable to Scripture Fathers and your own Popes Next I say suppose when ye are brought to this strait ye must say so yet for all this not only call ye your Church Catholick because of the soundness of doctrine which ye suppose she professes but also and speciallie to make the simple believe that there is no salvation out of her As appeareth by the Epistle of Cardinal Cusanus writing to the Bohemians Cochlaeus histor Hussitar lib. 21. Therefore ye call it the only true Church and the Catholick Church for out of the particular Church there is salvation but out of the Catholick Church there is no salvation Thirdlie I say as the Epistles of Peter John James and Jude are intituled Catholick not because of the soundness of their doctrine which is common to the Epistles of Paul also and all the rest of the Scripture which in that respect may also be called Catholick but because they are written generallie to all So the Church is called Catholick properly not because of the soundness of doctrine for that is common to all the particular Churches that have the puritie of Religion but because it comprehends all the particular Churches and all the elect And also to put a difference between the Church of the Jewes which did comprehend but one certain people and the Christian Church since the coming of Christ which is not bound to any certain place or nation or people but indifferently receives all both Jew and Gentil that believes and therefore is it called Catholick and therefore in our Belief we say not I believe the Catholick doctrine but the Catholick Church So by this she is properlie distinguished from particular Churches as the mother from the daughters and the whole body from the particular members So then if you would speak properlie of your Church and not make your styles snares to catch the souls of the simple call her but a particular Church and a member of the Catholick Church but yet dead and rotten as shal be shown afterward by the grace of God Otherwise if you will but call her the Catholick Church you first rob the mother for she is properly Catholick and also injures the rest of the daughters For in respect of the soundness of faith they may also challenge the same to them And thirdly ye deceive the souls of the simple thereby by making them believe there is not one other Church but yours And last of all you are sacrilegious in decking an adulteress with the styles of the spouse of Christ As to the third point wherein ye calumniate the truth of God which we profess in calling it a new Evangel and old renewed and new invented heresies of our own These are indeed heavie words wherewith ye blaspheme the word of the Lord Acts 18.6 and 19.9 and speak evil of it to the people of this Countrey And therefore as the Apostle saith of them that blasphemed his doctrine Your damnation is just Rom. 3.8 For a wo by Gods own mouth is pronounced against them that call good evil and evil good truth falshood and falshood truth and darkness light and light darkness Isai 5.20 But as the Archangel when he strave with Satan about the body of Moses did not blame him with cursed speaking but said The Lord rebuke thee Jude 9. so we will not blame you with cursed speaking but the Lord rebuke you For ye speak here the vision of your own heart and not from the mouth of the Lord And ye are not the first that hath blasphemed the truth of God for so did the Jewes before you call the doctrine of the Gospel a sect a heresie and the Gentiles called it strange Gods and a new doctrine and the preachers thereof a setter forth of strange Gods and of new doctrine and a babler Acts 28. and 14. and 17. The Jews said that Christ had a Devil and yet as our Lord testifies it was they that were the children of the Devil John 8.44 Ye say that we preach a new Evangel and old new heresies but this is the sin the doctrine of your Church For to let that pass of that new everlasting Gospel which your Friers invented devised as testifieth Guliel de sancto Amore in his book de pericul noviss temp anno 1192. wherein was contained such blasphemies as the heaven and earth abhorrs to hear them That God the Father reigned under the law God the Son under grace And the holy Ghost was then that year to begin his kingdom and to continue to the end of the world And that Jesus Christ was not God his Sacrament nothing and his Evangel not a true Evangel O horrible blasphemie the which if God had not raised up some men in those days to have resisted it as the Waldenses and others which ye call hereticks and infamous men the Gospel of Christ had been lost and in stead of it we would have gotten a new Gospel the dreggs whereof yet remains in your Church But I will let this pass because the wise men of Babel I mean your Clergy of Rome saw that that was too plain an iniquitie therefore they caused it quietlie to be removed and buried and yet they not condemned as hereticks that preached it But by the contrary the Waldenses and others that withstood it was condemned as hereticks and their books burnt To let this pass I say which testifieth what the world might have looked for at your hands if the Lord had not provided better for his poor Church Your whole doctrine is Antichristian as shal be proved hereafter your Church Babel Rev. 17. your Kingdom that second beast Rev. 13.11 that hath two horns like the Lamb and yet speaks like the dragon and your head the man of sin 2. Thess 2. and son of perdition And ye are they that have renewed old condemned heresies and have invented new of your own as shal be proved afterward by Gods grace SECTION III. Concerning the Churches infallibility and immunity from error M. John Welsch SAy they our Religion is so ancient that it hath continued ever by a lineal succession of Pastors and Bishops from the dayes of Christ and his
be the beast Rev. 13.11 and your head to be the Antichrist your doctrine to be delusions 2. Thess 2.3.4.11 and your Rome to be that mystical Babylon Rev. 18 4. And so the Lord hath made them believe and give obedience to that commandment of his Go out of her my people c. That ye call these the true Church that spake against him that lyes in the weights and ballance yet betwixt us For ere ye prove them to be the true Church ye must first prove your doctrine which they then professed to have the warrant out of the Word of God So let them have the name of a Church but of an impure and corrupted Church of a Church infected by the pest of your doctrine oppressed by the tyranny of your Pope and Clergy and consumed by the rotten humors of your Idolatry So then it was not the true Church that is the called ones by the light of the Gospel for they are the true Church that spake against him but only these that were infected and poysoned with your abominations the which I grant did over-spread these Nations as it was fore-told of her Rev. 17.2 and 18.3 and 13.14 And as for these first heads of Religion which he oppugned Of your pardons justification by works and the sacrifice of the Mass their condemnation is set down in the great Register and Testament of Jesus Christ the Lord of life as shal be proved hereafter So that he was not the first that oppugned them Now as to the last the Churches from whom he departed he departed not from their body but from the consumption of your heresie that consumed the body Not from the Church but from the corruptions of your Idolatry and abominations in the Church Not from the Commonwealth of Israel but from your tyranny and oppression of the Commonwealth Not from the city of God but from the pest of your doctrine that infected the city And last of all not from the spiritual communion and society of the Saints of God in these parts but from the communion with Babel with Antichrist with the beast and with the dragon and that at the commandment of the Lord Flie from idolatry Go out of Babel my people 1. Tim. 6.3.4.5 Matth. 7.15 Acts 19. and 8.9 1. Cor. 10.14 2. Cor. 5.14.15.16.17.18 Hosea 4.15 Rev. 18.4 Now after you have assigned the mutations of our Religion since Christ and his Apostles as you think you gather the whole force of it together and makes the stream of your argument to run as strongly as it can upon our Church and Religion that the face and form of it might be so washen away that it be not known to be a true Church Your reason then is this The true Church of Christ hath never failed universally for the space of one day because our Savior hath promised to be with it to the end of the world But our Church was never before Martin Luthers dayes therefore it is not the true Church of Christ As to your proposition if ye take failing for erring in matters of doctrine then I deny your proposition for I hope I have proved sufficiently before that the Church both may err and hath erred in all ages But if you take failing to be utterly abolished and rooted out of the face of the earth then I grant your proposition that God hath ever a Church the Church of his elect with whom he will be to the end of the world And as to your assumption that our Church was never before Martin Luthers dayes I deny it Let us see how ye prove it There was none say ye before his dayes neither visible nor invisible that professed his Religion But how do ye prove that for that is still denied to you For if your Religion hath the Old and New Testament to bear witness to it and Jesus Christ to be the author of it in every point as shal be made manifest by the grace of God then I say whosoever they were from the beginning of the world to this day visible or invisible that professed the true Jesus the true Savior his true doctrine and Sacraments wherein Religion stands they are our predecessors and are of our profession and Religion so then ye should first if ye had gone squarely to work have disproved the heads of our Religion not to have their warrant from the tables of Christs Testament ere ye had concluded that we had none of our profession and Religion before Martin Luther And this is the point you should have begun at for it is not the Church that makes the Religion but the Religion that makes the Church Have we a warrant out of the Word of God for our Religion then are we the true Church and the successors of all them who ever from the beginning of the world have professed the same Have we not this warrant then I grant you we have no true Church So there is the point of our controversie whither our doctrine be from God out of his Word or not But how prove ye that Martin Luther had none of his profession before him First you gathered upon the former things that all the true Churches said against him and that he departed from them unto the which I answered before that these was not the true Church but only so many of every Nation who was deceived by your doctrine and whereof the Lord did cure a great many by his ministery and by the ministery of others whom the Lord did stir up since so that neither did the true Church who saw the truth speak against nor yet did he depart from their societie Next as the Lord had a true Church in Israel in the time of Elias even these who did not bow their knee to Baal 1. Kings 19 10.18 who was neither known to Elias the Prophet nor yet to the persecuters so did the Lord in the midst of your darkness and Idolatry reserve to himself a true Church even these hundred forty and four thousand which John saw standing with the Lamb on mount Sion Rev. 14 1. who did not defile themselves with your Idolatry and did not worship the beast and receive his mark which suppose neither ye nor we had known yet the Lord did reserve them as he promised Thirdly I say Martin Luther had sundry who professed his Religion immediatly before him who was even known to the world as I shal prove afterward Your next proof is taken from a testimony of one of our own Writers where ye alledge that it is written of Martin Luther and Zuinglius that they were the first that came to the knowledge of the Gospel I say ye are not faithful in citing of this testimony for it saith not that they were the first that came to the knowledge of the Gospel but these are the words That it was an easie thing to them meaning of your Church to devise against us meaning the English Protestants as ye call them these cursed speaches
blood But Dominicus saith he not being void of that perfection of love he took a three-fold correction out of his own hand every day not with a cord but with an iron rod even to the effusion of his blood and for his own faults which were very few another for them that were in Purgatory the third for them that were in the world And so deduces this comparison through all the parts of Christs life And in the end he saith That being to depart from this world he comforts his disciples saying Let not this trouble you for in the place where I go to I shall be more comfortable to you then if I were with you For after death ye shall have me a better Advocat then ye could have in this life What blasphemies these are judge thou Christian Reader and yet they are authorized by the Church of Rome because they serve to establish the Popes supremacy For Gregory the 9. canonized him as a Saint anno 1223. and appointed a festival day to be kept to his honor And he that writes these things is an Archbishop of Florence a man famous among them To him that will joyn himself to this Order of Franciscus and Dominicus for to merit the Kingdom of heaven to redeem their own souls or the souls of their friends as their Bull of Fraternity saith The Provincial gives him the Bulls of Fraternity by the which is made capable of all the merits of the Convent of the merits of all the Friers of that Province of their Masses prayers fastings abstinences devotions watchings disciplins c. Whereby as though it were too little for them to be Saviors of themselves they teach that they have such abundance of merits as also may serve for others They have a prayer to Thomas Becket in their porteous book who was made a Saint by Alexander the 3. in these words Tu per Thomae sanguinem quem pro te impendit fac nos Christe ascendere quo ille ascendit that is Make us O Christ to ascend to heaven by the blood of Thomas which he shed for thee Mocking as it were the blood of Jesus Now as for the Virgin Mary what title is proper to Jesus Christ which they have not ascribed unto her What honor or worship is given to Jesus Christ which is not given to her Damascene saith praying to the Virgin Mary I shall be saved by hoping in thee Thou is the salvation of mankind Antoninus saith part 3. summa tit 12. part 4. tit 15. cap. 14. para 7. That all they upon whom the Virgin Mary turns her eyes are necessarily justified and saved And that Christ because he is both Advocat and Judge together is too rigorous for this cause saith he God hath provided an Advocat meaning of the Virgin Mary in whom nothing is to be found but sweetness And he saith The Seraphims willing to have retained Mary as she mounted to heaven Not saith she for it is not meet that man should live his alone speaking of the everlasting Son of God who sits at the right hand of his Father I am given to him for to be a help to that work of redemption by my compassion and to that work of glorification by my intercession to the intent that if he threaten to destroy the earth as in the time of the Deluge I may appear before him as the rain-bow to the intent that he may remember his covenant And which is yet worse if worse can be another Papist saith applying that which is only spoken of Christ to her God saith he said to her in her birth I have given thee to be a light to the Gentils to the intent that thou may be our salvation applying it blasphemously to Mary to the end of the world and a light to be revealed to the Gentils And again he saith That all graces which run down from the Father and the Son come by her who saith he is a Mediatrix between God and men And no grace comes from heaven but through her hands and all grace enters in her and comes out of her And he saith She is a Mediatrix of salvation of conjunction of justification of reconciliation of intercession of communication And to be short he saith The Father hath given to her the half of his Kingdom the which was signified in the persons of Assuerus and Ester and that he hath retained to himself justice and hath left to her to exercise mercy So that we may appeal from the Court of the Justice of God to the Court of the mercy of the Virgin Mary Whereby they most blasphemously prefer and lift her up above the Lord for that Judge unto whom appellation is made must be superior unto these Judges from whom the appellation is made therefore they blasphemously prefer the tribunal of Mary to the tribunal of the God of heaven And what shal I speak of her Letanies Psalteries and Hours Of her Hours where she is called the Queen of mercy who hath bruised the Serpents head which thing is spoken only to the first parents of the Son of God Gen. 3. and the restorer and Savior of mankind the most godly and most holy the gate of heaven the shining port of life the mother of grace and mercy our life our hope who makes the world to shine by the light of the brightness of her peace who only hath deserved to be next in honor to the Trinity by whom the whole world lives next God She is called the comfort of the desolat the salvation and hope of all them that put their trust in her the fountain of salvation grace godliness joy comfort The Queen of heaven and star of the sea whom the Sun honors the promise of the Prophets the Queen of the Evangelists the teacher of the Apostles the comfort of the Martyrs the salvation and consolation of the quick and the dead the bottomless fountain of all grace the port of paradise the Lady of glory the Queen of joy the Lady of Angels the joy of the Saints the only hope of the miserable the Empress of the Angels the comforter of sinners the keeper of the heart the praise of all the Saints And of her is sought in her Hours and Letanies all these graces generally which are only proper to God through Jesus Christ to give as Protection receiving in the time of death refuge in the time of misery remission of sins the keeping of soul and body holiness of life staying of the pest calming of the seas perseverance in grace the eschewing of sin salvation and eternal life And that by her merits and prayers their sins may be forgiven and that being redeemed by her they may climb up to heaven And they pray to Mary and John Baptist by the Redeemer making Christ a Mediator between them and them And they pray to Christ to defend them from his anger and from the anger of his mother And they pray her to give her self