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A75872 An answer to a book, titled, Quakers principles quaking: subscribed by the name of one Ralph Hale, with an epistle (so called) to the reader, subscribed with the name of one Zachariah Crofton. A principle of darkness, deceit, and confusion in Ralph Hale, and his fellow labourer in Sathans work Zachariah Crofton, is discovered by the Quakers principle, and the Quakers principle doth stand against the power of darkness, and all the false principles in the world, them to discover and lay open. The book was said to be modestly propounded by Ralph Hale, but in it I found so many lies, slanders, and false accusations, with confused, vain, and frivolous words, as many of them is not worth mentioning; yet, lest the author should boast in his mischief, I shall lay down somthing in answer to some few of them, in respect of the number of them. / A servant to the least in the houshold of faith, and the lest amonst his brethren, whose name in the flesh is William Adamson. Addamson, William, 17th cent. 1656 (1656) Wing A501; Thomason E897_3; ESTC R206690 24,865 37

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he cared little for the poor it seems no more dost thou and truly Judas seemed to have more honesty then we find in thee for he said the oyn●ment might have been sold and given to the poor but thou hast not so much as once mentioned that the Priests should seed the poor with the Tythe but have all to the hirelings Hale And in page 26. thou art talking of the Saints assemblies and a place where God hath promised his more especial presence the Church of God the pillar and ground of Truth sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale for the Saints assembl●es let them alone thou hast nothing to do with them thou must first come out of the Pop●s opinions there was never none of the Saints that hoped for a furnace in the grave to consume the remainders of corrupt nature in thou and all that doth so are of the Popes Assemblies and for the Church of God it is in God 1 Thes 1.1 and that is not the steeple-house nor any other limitted place set up in the will of man and for the pillar and ground of truth what hast thou to do to talk of it thou knowest nothing of it thy pillar and ground is the pillar and ground of deceit who talks of a furnace in the grave Hale And thou sayest it is truly desired of all Gods people that there were no corruption in your Churches as thou calls them Answ Ralph Hale How came thou to know that G●ds people desired it except some of them have told thee so for there was never none of Gods people that talked of a furnace in the grave as thou doest Hale And thou sayest there will be Tares amongst the wheat and it is the Lord of the Harvest his Decree that they shall grow together till the Harvest Answ Ralph Hale of the most wicked and cursed Tares that cumbers the wheat thou hast manifested thy self to be one in that thou talks of a furnace in the grave and thou ●hat knows not and sees not the Harvest come thou a●t that cursed and blasted Tare on which the mildew is fallen and from henceforth shalt thou find thy withering and decay except with speed thou repent Hale I shall be far from judging any of you saith thou and again I judge you not sayest thou Answ I say that is a subtle Curr that wi●l bite when he fawns and if thou dost not judge us to be such as have broken and rent our selves from the Church of God and the Body of Christ if thou dost not judge us to be such why dost thou term us to be such in thy Book Is not this double deceit and hypocrisie that is lodged in thee First to judge us unjustly and falsly and then to say thou wilt not judge us But it is the manner of an old Sophister to cover that in himself and lay it on others which he is mo●● guilty of himself Hale And in page 27. thou sayest Thou desires that we may be careful to try the Spirits whether they be of God or no for many false Spirits as well as false Prophets are gone out into the world sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale a more false Prophet then thou art and a more false Spirit then thou speaks from can scarce be gone forth into the world in that thou talks of a furnace in the g●ave a● all may re●d in thy Book page t●● 22. and seeing thou hast bidden us Try the Spirits we have tryed thine and we fi●d it to be a false popish Spirit and therefore we shall take heed of thee Hale Thou sayest thou heartily wisheth that we may return and joyn our selves to the Communion of the Saints in the Publique Ordinances of God that we may have a sweet fellowship and communion with the Father and tho Son as ever we had before your going out from us sayest thou Answ Ralph Hale both thee and all that are in fellowship with thee in thy popish opinions who call your selves saints and are not and your communion and your fellowship and your publique ordinances as you call them and your Father and that Son that leads you to hope for a furnace in the grave I do deny both you and them all for that Father is the Father of lies and that Son is the Son of perdition and those Ordinances are dead and carnal and popish that leads you into such things Hale And with which I will conclude sayest thou If either you or any man or men teach otherwise and consent not to the wholsome words of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and the Doctrine which is according to godliness let him pretend as much humility as he can he is proud knowing nothing but doteth about questions and strife of words whereof cometh envie railing evil surmisings 1 Tim. 6.3 4. Answ Ralph Hale if t●ou might have mentioned Timothys words no more then thou had lived in Timothys life thou had been as dumb as those dogs that Isaiah speaks of and I pray thee see how Timothys words meets with thee who ta●ks of a furnace in the grave is that according to the wholsome words of our Lord Jesus C●●● and the doctrine which is according ●o godliness or is it according to the Popes Doctrine H●re be thy own Judge and let shame stop thy mouth And now I say to ye all in and about Liverpool and elsewhere to the light of Christ turn in your minds to that in the conscience which shews you sin and evil and check● and reproves you in secret for the evil of your ways to th t take heed that by it you may be guided up to God from whence the light comes as you tender your everlasting salvation and if you neglect this when the day of your trouble comes in which you cry wo and alas then remember that you were fore-warned in your life time to that in your consciences do I speak the light which comes from the Lord Jesus Christ and lighte●h every man that comes into the world which is the Saints guide and teacher to guide them up to God and the sure word of Prophesie to which they are to take heed and if by it you be guided it will lead you up to the Lord Jesus Christ and this is the way to salvation the light and there is no other way to salvation but Christ the light and if you walk contrary to the light then the light is your condemnation and to you all this is the Word of Truth witnessed by that in all the consciences shall it be when the Book of Conscience is opened Remember this and whilst you have time prize it W. A. The End
An Answer to a Book Titled Quakers Principles Quaking Subscribed by the name of one Ralph Hale with an Epistle so called to the Reader subsc●ibed with the name of one Zachariah Crofton A principle of darkness deceit and confusion in Ralph Hale and his Fellow labourer in Sathans work Zachariah Crofton is discovered by the Quakers principle and the Quakers principle doth stand against the power of darkness and all the false principles in the world them to discover and lay open The Book was said to be modestly propounded by Ralph Hale but in it I found so many lies standers and false accusations with confused vain and frivolous words as many of them is not worth mentioning yet lest the Author should boast in his mischief I shall lay down somthing in Answer to some few of them in respect of the number of them Psalm 9.15 The Heathens are sunk down into the pit that they made in the Net which they hid is their own foot taken A servant to the least in the Houshold of Faith and the least amongst his Brethren whose name in the flesh is William Adamsor LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert and are to be sold at his Shop at the Black Spread-E●gle near the West end of Pauls 1656. Somthing in Answer to Zachariah Crofton and his Epistle as he calls it ZAchariah Crofton How far art thou from the example of Christ who when he was reviled he reviled not again but thou hast here reviled them that never reviled thee and thine eyes did never see many of those call●d Quakers whom thou hast reviled and called them Revilers Is that the work of a plain man that possesseth an honest heart which thou hast reported thy self to be one of in thy Epistle as thou callest it but it is both the wisdom and praises of a plain man possessing an honest heart to let another man praise him and not his praises come from his own mouth as thine doth Priest And first thou saith to the Reader if he had been in any measure sensible of the Worlds Age and time of the Church in which we have our being and seriously observant of the Dispensations of Providence sutable to the seasons he could not but have seen Gods severity and Sathans subtilty as much as in any Age of the World Ans Zachariah Crofton In this which thou calls thy Epistle thou hast manifested thy self that thou hast not thy being in the Church which is in God but of the Synagogue of Sathan and without God in the world thou manifest thy self to have thy being in that thou vents forth thy venome and spues out thy poison in thy words proceeding from the smoak of the bottomless pit and if the Reader do seriously observe thy Epistle as thou calls i● he may see a bitter inveterate sp●rit of rage and malice lodged in thee and as much of Sathans r●ge as possibly can be uttered in so much paper like that wicked Tertullus who said the Apostle was a pestilent fellow when indeed it was his own condition and so it is here with thee for what thou seems to cast upon us it is due to thy self and if I should say no more in answer to thy Epistle but this that what thou would cast upon us it is thy own portion yet the answer were just and undeniable to all who have the eye of discerning open in any measure Priest And then thou goes on with an accusation but hast not laid down at whom thy sting is shot for some space and then thou begins to push with thy horns like a cursed Goat at the Lambs of Christ who in disdain are called Quakers and thou says Yet in all this hath not Gods severity so much appeared as in the late upstart Quakers by whom the Divel comes stealing into the Field saith thou Answ Zachariah Crofton I do believe that not only thou but all the Parish-masters in England may truly say of that people called Quakers as Ahab said of Micaiah You hate them for they never prophesied good to you for keeping up tythes hire and augmentations and Christ now being manifest in his servants it is not strange that thou should call him the Divel it is but the same title that thy Fore-fathers the Pharise●● gave him and being manfest in his servants he doth so torment the god of this world in he hi●el●ngs that they cry loud for their gains from their quarters as the manner of the greedy dogs ever was Priest Yet now to us how do they prevail Too too much with too too many saith thou Answ I say yet for all that your blind eyes cannot see Gods hand in it lifted up against you Phar●●h like ones and his divine providence in carrying on his own work though you oppress the seed as much as you can yet it increaseth so much the more to the glory of God and the torment of the Beast in you is begun P●iest They are to be pitied not hated they are to be prayed for not preached unto for the Divel that possesseth them is such as can be cast out by no other means save Fasting and Prayer sayest thou Answ Zachariah Crofton If thine eyes were but opened to see how thy own poor soul lieth in the death thou would have then much cause to take thy pity a little rearer thee and pity thy s●lf for thy pity we disown I believe it will prove not worth receiving and for thy prayers we do deny them for the prayers of the wicked God will not hear Isa 1.15 John 9.31 and thou talks of Fasting to cast out Divels I say what now Wilt thou own Fasting Is it not superstition with thee Did thou not term it as superstition when we fasted and now it serves thee to make a talk of thy self But I will tell thee if thy prayers and thy fasting will cast out Divels turn thine eye home within and cast out legion the●e first but I believe thou w●ll but cast out a few Divels or none at all for Christ said if Sathan cast out himself he is divided aga●nst himself If thou hast an ear thou may h●ar Priest And thou saist indeed Amongst other grounds of our compassion this is not the least that they enjoy too much liberty sayest thou and thou seems to be trou●led at it that men will not shew us such pity as to subject us to a Bedlam discipline Answ Zachariah Crofton It seems thy compassion would not afford us our l●berty and if thou ●ad as much power in thy hands as thou seems to have of a cru●l sort of pity in thy heart thou would bring us to a Bedl●m Discipline I say if this be thy compassion and pity let i● be to thy self it is fit thou should be pitied first thy self seeing thou would take such pity on strangers whom thou knows not and if thou chance to take thy lodging in that place where thou wouldst have us pitied then remember that God is just in reaching thee a