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B12171 The voluntarie conuersion and seuerall recantations, of foure great learned men, professed fryers in sundry monasteries of Fraunce, from the errours of idolatrie and poperie, to the true religion established in the Reformed Church. 1. Master Iohn Le Vager, a priest in the Romane Church, conuerted at Mauns, Ianuary 6. 2. Master Iohn Forent, a fryer Carmelite, in the Court of Morthemard, conuerted in the Reformed Church of Poictiers, Iune, 9. 3. Master Denis Boucher, a Franciscane fryer, in the couent of Noisy, neere Paris, conuerted in the Reformed Church of Paris, Iuly. 6. 4. Master Daniell Dusert, Franciscan fryer at Mello, conuerted in the Church of Mello, December, 22. All conuerted this last yeare, 1603. as their seuerall discourses following at large doe testifie, vnder their owne hands. Truely translated, out of the French printed copies. 1604 (1604) STC 5650; ESTC S114587 31,204 52

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2. Iohn 2. 12. 13. 14. names sake Againe I write vnto you Fathers c. Also I write vnto you young men c. And then I write vnto you babes Doe they not likewise teach that it is not lawfull to reade the holy Scriptures as also not to pray or cal vpon the name of God but in the Latine tongue and make a very strict obseruation thereof And is not this contrarie to the spirit of God speaking thus by his blessed Apostle I had rather in the church to speake fiue words with mine vnderstanding that I might also 2. Cor. 14. 19. instruct others then ten thousand words in a strange language In the Church of Rome they also teach that some others beside Iesus Christ haue beene exempted from sinne but doe they not lye in so saying when the Apostle speaks thus Wherfore as by one man sinne entred into the world and by sin death Rom. 5. 12. and so death went ouer all men forasmuch as all men haue sinned Beside this they maintaine that man hath free will as easily to saue himselfe as to perish contrary to the instruction of saint Iohn Baptist saying A man can receiue nothing except it bee giuen him from heauen And the Apostle also saith It is GOD Iohn 3. 27. Phil. 2. 13. which worketh in you both the will and the deede euen of his own good pleasure Moreouer they erre greatly teaching that our workes are meritorious to saluation before God against that which the Prophet Esay saith All our righteousnesse is like the filthy Esa 64. 6. clouts of a menstruous woman And against that also which Damel saith Wee doe not O Lord present our supplications before thee for our owne righteousnesse but for thy great tender mercies Dan. 9. 18. Do not they likewise maintaine that wee are iustified and saued by the workes of the Lawe and not by faith and the mercie of God onely Contrarie to the Apostles wordes By Ephes 2. 8. 9. grace are yee saued through faith and that not of your selues it is the gift of God Not of workes least any man should boast himselfe Contrarie also to this to Timothie That God hath saued vs and called vs with an holy calling not according to our works 2. Tim. 1. 9. hut according to his owne purpose and grace which was giuen to vs through Christ Iesus before the world was Contrary likewise Rom. 3. 28. to this to the Romanes Therefore we conclude that a man is iustified by faith without the workes of the Lawe Is it not common speach also as well in their writings as also in their preachings that we ought to stand doubtful of our saluation Contrarie to Saint Paule to the Hebrewes saying Let Heb. 4 16. vs goe boldly to the throne of grace that we may receiue mercie and finde grace to helpe in time of neede Contrarie also to his writing to the Romanes where he saith For I am perswaded that neither death nor life nor Angels nor Principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come nor height nor Rom. 8. 38. 39. depth nor any other creature shall be able to separate vs from the loue of God which is in Christ Iesus our Lord. And contrarie also to his writing to the Corinthians That God hath sealed vs 2. Cor. 1. 22. and hath giuen the earnest of his spirit in our hearts Doe they not defend and manifestly against the worde of God thas we haue other Mediatours and Aduocates then Iesus Christ to wit both hee-Saints and she-Saints Contrarie to Saint Paule writing thus For there is one God and one Mediatour betweene God and man which is the man Christ Iesus 2. Tim. 2. 5. Contrarie likewise to the Euangelist Saint Iohn in two seueral places of his Gospell Whatsoeuer yee shall aske the father in my Iohn 14. 13. Iohn 16. 23. name he will giue it vnto you Thus falling from errour to errour they ordaine appoint that we must call vpon those Saints and declare to them our miseries and necessities which no man can do but meerely in vaine because both he-Saints and she-Saints can take no acknowledgement of our wants according to the saying of the Prophet Esay Abraham is ignorant of vs and Iacob knowes vs Esa 63. 16. not thou O Lord art our Father and our Redeemer thy name is for euer How doe they labour likewise to perswade the world concerning the necessity of prayers for the dead or those faithfull soules which they say are enclosed in Purgatorie directly contrary to our Lord and Sauiours owne words as the Euangelist sets downe VVhosoeuer beleeueth in the Sonne shall not Iohn 3. 18. be condemned And in the first Chapter of the same Gospell Verily verily I say vnto you he that heareth my word and beleeueth Iohn 5. 24. in him that sent mee hath euerlasting life and shall not come into condemnation but hath passed from death vnto life Continually they preach that there is another kinde of Purgatorie then that which is contained in the bloud onely of our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ Quite contrarie to the blessed Apostle writing thus If we acknowledge our sinnes hee is faithfull and iust to forgiue vs our sinnes and to cleanse vs from all vnrighteousnese And as it followeth in the 1. Iohn 1. 9. second Chapter of the same Epistle We haue an Aduocat with the Father to wit Iesus Christ the Iust And hee is the propitiation 1. Iohn 2. 1. 2. for our sinnes and not for ours onely but also for the sinnes of the whole world Why then it is most false that there is a third place beside Paradise and hel where the soules of the faithfull departing from this world are to be tormented before they can be brought to heauen Contrarie to the Prophet Esay who saith The iust man dying enters into peace and rest Esa 57. 1. 2. And in the wisdome of Salomon it is written The soules of the righteous are in the hand of God no torment shall touch them Sapi. 3. 1. Also saint Iohn the diuine saith in the Apocalipse Blessed are Apoc. 14. 13. the dead which hereafter die in the Lord. Euen so saith the Spirit for they rest from their labours and their workes follow them In like manner they teach that to obtaine remission of our sinnes we must make an account of them and number all our sinnes in auricular confession by which hellish cordes they strangle the conscience binding it to impossible things Acding to the saying of the Prophet Dauid That his sinnes surmounted Psalm 40. 12. in number the haires of his head Again he saith Who can vnderstand all his faults cleanse me O Lord from my secret Psalm 19. 12. faults Yet not thus contented they teach beside that by the greatnesse of our bodies punishments and contritions we may gain remission of our sins life euerlasting Against that which S.
Paule writeth to the Romans For I count that the afflictions of Rom. 8. 18. this present time are not worthy of the glory which shal be reuealed to vs. They erre also in teaching the superstitious obseruation of certaine daies contrarie to the reprehension made by the Apostle to the Galathians saying Ye obserue daies and moneths Galat. 4. 10. and times and years And a mighty abuse they commit teaching the superstitious distinguishing of meats disagreeing with the Apostles doctrin to the Colossians where he saith Let no man condemne you in Colos 2. 16. meat or drinke or in respect of an holy day or of the new Moone or of the Sabaoth daies They deceiue themselues also in forbidding mariage to Ecclesiasticall persons contrarie to that which the spirit of God speakes without exception of age degree or condicion whatsoeuer saying Mariage is honorable among all and the Heb. 13. 4. bed vndefiled but whoremongers and adulterers God will iudge And this we adde hereto of the Apostle Now the spirit speaketh euidently that in the latter daies some shall depart from the 1. Tim. 4. 1. 2. 3. faith and shall giue heede vnto spirits of errour and doctrines of diuels Which speake lyes through hypocrisie and haue their consciences seared with an hote Iron Forbidding to marrie and commaunding to abstaine from meats They pile errour vpon errour teaching that there are seauen Sacraments in the Church For it is most certaine that in regard the Sacraments are Seals of the mercies of God to saluation it necessarily ensueth that none other can giue vs or promise vs saluation neither doth it appertaine to any but to God onely to seale vs the same promise which he hath ratified to vs by those speciall seales Wherefore hauing none other but Baptisme and the Supper of our Lord to confirme seale so great a benefit vnto vs it followes in meere iustice that we ought to acknowledge none but these two onely for Sacraments And not to make any addition to them of Confirmation Mariage Penance Orders and extreame vnction considering that these things hauing no visible signe of Gods ordinance neither any promise annexed to them of eternall saluation which are the essentiall conditions of Sacraments cannot be reckoned to be any such And how ridiculous likewise doe they shewe themselues when they teach that the vertue efficacie of the Sacramēts doth depend vpon the intention of him that is to administer them when as quite contrarie the power and strength of them depends only vpon the ordinance of God on the faith of him that is to vse them Moreouer their instruction also is very erronious that the pretended Sacraments of Confirmation and of the Orders Ecclesiasticall are more worthy and excellent then either Baptisme or the Lords Supper Because say they that by Commation Orders the indclible or neuer to be razed out Character as they call it is thereby imprinted in the soules of them that receiue them And likewise because they are adminstred by persons much more excellent to wit by Bishops only whereas both Baptisme and the holy Supper doe imprint no Character at all and may be ministred by simple Priests Ouer and beyond all these they teach that the bodie and bloud of our Lord Iesus Christ are cōtained vnder these kinds that is to say the accidents of Bread and Wine contrarie to the Article of our faith which saith That Christ shall not descende at all from heauen but when he comes at the latter day to iudge both the quicke and the deade And contrarie to that which S. Peter saith in the Actes of the Apostles That the heauens must containe him vntill the time that all things be restored But by Act. 3. 21. this doctrine they will haue Iesus Christ to be enclosed vnder the natures of Bread and Wine and make him thereby inuisible impalpable and filling many places at one and the same instant whereby they rob him of his humane nature wherein sinne onely excepted hee was made in all thinges like vnto vs. On the other side taking away vniustly from the Lay people to wit such as are not Ecclesiasticall persons the Cup of the Lord which hee protested to bee the newe Testament in his bloud shed for the remission of many goe they not against the vniuersall commaundement of Iesus Christ where he saith Drinke yee all of it and do they not thus violate the testamentarie Math. 26. 27. institution of the Sonne of God But the errour of errours thrust into this Sacrament is when they teach that in the Eucharist in their Masse there is a sacrifice Heb. 9. 25. 26. expiatorie for the liuing and for the deade Iesus Christ being euery day crucified againe infinite times by the hands of the Priest Contrarie to that of the Apostle in the Hebrewes Not that he should offer himselfe often as the high Priest entred into the Holy place euery yeare with other bloude For then must he haue often suffered since the foundation of the world But now in the end of the world hath hee appeared once to put away sinne by the sacrifice of himselfe And in the tenth of the same Epistle hee saith Loe I come to doe thy will O God By the which Heb. 10. 9. 10. will wee are sanctified euen by the offering of the bodie of Iesus Christ once made Whereby we learne that the sacrifice which our Lord Iesus once onely offered is alone sufficient soly perfect and of perpetuall continuance to expiate our sinnes without any reiterating or renewing as hauing no imperfection whatsoeuer neither can by length or succession of times become fruitlesse or vnprofitable as they would gladly make vs beleeue who according to their owne doctrine doe daily crucifie the Lord anew And what nature can but iustly complaine when they maintaine that we ought to fall downe and prostrate our selues before Images contrary to the second commandement giuen by God himselfe Thou shalt make thee no grauen Image c. Thou shalt not bow downe to them neither serue them c. But aboue Exod. 20. 4. 5. all he that hath any care at al of the glorie of his Lord and maker cannot but feele himselfe stirred with holy zeale when he lookes into their ouerdaring boldnesse that they durst and yet dare cut quite away the second Commandement from the Lawe of the Soueraigne Creatour both of Heauen earth In briefe since in the Romane Church vnder the Popes authoritie so many errours are defended and maintained both by fire and bloud against God his holy word and commaundements and beyond al other against the merits and benefits ensuing onely by our Sauiour Christ Iesus wee may seriously enter into consideration if he deserue not truely to bee called the man of sinne the sonne of perdition that opposeth and aduāceth himselfe against all that is called God or tendeth to his honour For he sitteth as God in the Temple of God shewing him selfe