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A93918 The doctrines and principles the persecution, imprisonment, banishment, excommunicating of the saints of God, by the priests and magistrates of Scotland, contrary to the doctrine of Christ and the Apostles ... Stockdale, William, d. 1693. 1659 (1659) Wing S5693A; ESTC R184702 60,391 90

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Scotland and never was given back to this day it being two years since Alexander Parker was cast in Prison by order of George Monk and the Councell George Fox the younger banished and sent from Constable to Constable by order of George Monke and the Councell George Wilson George Fox the younger and Richard Ismead was banished from the Isles of Orkney by George Monks Comand and the rest of the Councel of Scotland Alexander Parker and severall others were comanded and sent out of Scotland by George Monke and the order of the Councell of Scotland Francis Howgill Thomas Robbinson and one more were apprehended at Dumfreize by the souldiers and magistrates of the town whereupon the said Souldiers rifled them and their Port-mantles for Letters but when they could not finde any to accuse them withall the Magistrates cast them into prison as Vagrants and did intend to have sent them into England again by Constables but it being proved that they were no Vagabonds the Magistrates and Souldiers was faine to let them go after all the wrong they had done them though it was to their own shame Christopher Fell was put into prison in Parsley for speaking to the Priest after the Priest had done and the people did threaten that if any Quakers did come again to their Church as they called it they would carry knives with them to stab them to which threatning John Dove who was then Lieftenant of a Troop of Horse and quartered in that town said If they did do as they said he would bring the Troop of Horse and be-set them in their house so to preserve the peace Thomas Holmes and Elizabeth his wife was shamefully abused in severall places in Scotland Richard Pinder was put in prison four dayes and in the Stocks five houres and banished out of the Land for speaking to the people in the Steeple-hous-yard of Kilbryde between the Priests Sermon time Richard Ismead for bidding James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton prove himself to be a Minister of Christ was put in prison there and from thence sent prisoner to Glascow there put in the stooks with a gagg in his Mouth and a paper pinnd on his brest and was commanded to depart the Land William Stockdall was put in prison four dayes in a hole where he could scarce get room to lye down for speaking to James Nesmith Priest of Hambleton James Lanchester and others was severall times put in prison for speaking in the streets of Hambleton John Hart Andrew Browne and John Lacoke was imprisoned severall weeks in Glascow for going to the Priests house to speake to him and the priest excommunicated them in the mean while Thomas Jack was put in prison some dayes for going to the priest to aske why he would excommunicate him the said Thomas Jack was put in prison and kept from his Trade he being a poore man and his wife lying in Child-bed James Lanchester and Robert Withers was banished out of Scotland George Were was put in prison twenty three dayes and nothing laid to his charge justly Will. Michell was put in prison above twenty nine days for taking a wife contrary to the Priests will John Robberton called Lord of Ornock publikely refused to enter Andrew Hambleton in Shawton Hill in his prossession under him because he was excommunicated by the Priest wittnesses of this Alexander Hambleton John Strandders William Gray James Finly Robert Gray Robert Smally John Robbins all five were put in prison because they could not break Christs command John Hart and Jeannett Browne was put into prison for entertaining the people of God called Quakers Three taken out of an Inn by force in the night season between the tenth and eleventh houre and stoned out of the Town these and many more whose names are not here written have suffred much by this persecuting generation of Priests whose throates are open sepulchers to swallow down the bloud of the Saints and Servants of the most high God Hugh Archballs Doctrine and Principles Priest of Stravan in Evendale These are his Principles as follow Pr THat Christ hath not enlightened every one that comes into the world Ans Which is contrary to Johns doctrine John 1.9 Pr. That Christ doth enlighten none but those that do receive him Answ Contrary to John 3 speaking of them which hath the light and are enlightened and will not come to it because the light will reprove them so he that hates the light is enlightened and will not receive Christ Pr That it is blasphemy to say that the true light doth enlighten and condemn the world Answ Contrary to John 1 9 and 3 19 that saith This is the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world And this is the Condemnation of the world that light is come into the world Pr To say that which reproves for sin is from Heaven is blasphemy Answ Contrary to John 16 8 which saith it is the spirit that reproves which comes from the Father and the Son which is from Heaven Pr. He cryeth up a naturall light as Sun Moon and Stars and the light of Christ was before these was made and saith it is blasphemy to say they that did the things contayned in the Law was blessed in the deed and the Apostle said the doers of the Law was justified and said he would leave the Friends that speake to him to the mercy of the people Answ Upon which they struck bitterly with books fists and stones to destroy but that same moderate people and Souldiers stayed the Persecution John Hume Priests of Lesmahagow His Principles as followes who got into a Steeple-house and shut the door upon him thus he taught the people Pr THat which was to be known of God was manifest by the things that are created Answ Contrary to the Apostles doctrine Rom 1 19 For whatsoever may he known of God is manifest in them for the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and God-head so that they are without excuse So with that of God in them they know the invisible things from the foundation of the world and with that they see the God-head Pr That God was to be known by the things that were made as the Sun Moon and Stars Answ But Jesus Christ said Mat 11 27 No man knowes the Father but the Son and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him and the heathens know not God nor the Jewes had not seen his shape And his servants and workmen did throw water stones and lime and persecuted and dirtted and abused the people called Quakers and threw a pan full of water in a Souldiers neck and the said Priest never reproved them and these be the fruits of him and his own Family in stead of gravity well may the whole Parish be out of order when his own Family is thus So he is one that is reproved by the Apostles doctrine
doth not commit sin but the unbelief is sin Rom 11 20 and Christ is the end of the Law to every one that believes for righteousness sake Rom. 10.4 and yet thou puts both believers and unbelievers under the Law Lodowick Simerell Priest of the new parish of Munckland his Principles and Doctrines Pr. THat it is blasphemy to say that the light in man which reproves of sin is the light of God is perfect is the gift of God Answ Contrary to scripture contrary to Christs words and contrary to the Apostles words is thy doctrine and Principles for every gift of God is perfect Isa 1.17 Isa 49.6 Joh. 1.3 Joh. 4. For Christ is the gift of God and he hath given him for a Covenant of light to the Jews and Gentiles which doth enlighten every man that commeth into the world which every one that doth truth comes to it which every one that doth evil hates the light and will not come to the light because the light will reprove him and so This is the condemnation of the world that light is come into the world and men love darkenesse rather then light because their deeds be evill So this light is perfect which doth reprove every man of sin and is from above and it is the gift of God and thou art blind and in darkness that comprehends it not And the light which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world Christ Jesus the gift of God him by whom the world was made this light was before any naturall light was made Sun Moon or Stars for all things that was made was made by the light which came a light into the world that all through him might believe for he that believes not in the light is condemned already and he that does believe in the light hath the witnesse in himself to set to his seal that God is true and the spirit of truth that doth reprove the world is perfect and of God The light which every one that cometh into the world is enlightened withall is not conscience for the light was before any thing was made or conscience named So the light is that which exerciseth the conscience towards God and towards man where it is loved and the voice heard but where it is hated and the voice not heard the conscience is seared and the light is their condemnation whose consciences is seared which light was before conscience was The Priest would not have thee and thou to be to a single person and so is the man that would not indure sound words that cannot be condemned thee and thou was the language between God and his Saints and one another and you is to many and thou was to one and this was the language between Jeptha and his daughter and between the Saints and the Kings this shewes thou hast not learned the Accidence nor Bible nor art come to the form of sound words John Castaires called Minister of Glascow his Principles Pr. T Is naturall folkes duty to pray to God and worship him although they sinfully keep themselves under a sinfull necessity to sin against God through ignorance Answ This hath been your worke to keep people in ignorance which you may be ashamed of A natural man cannot worship God for he cannot receive the things of God nor a sinfull man but worship the Devil for he that commits sin serves him and he that serves sin serves the Devill and worships him Iohn 8 34 And Christ said the Pharisees should receive the greater damnation for their pretended long prayers Mat. 23 14 and so he did not justifie them in their long prayers but rebuked them and said Wo unto them who draw near with their lips when their hearts were far off Isa 29 13 And they that pray and worship God must pray in the spirit 1 Cor 14 15 and worship in the Spirit which the Devil is out of John 4 21 Pr If the first Command be in force and if it be in force negatively it is also in force positively thou shalt have me for thy God and oughtest to worship me and if they pray not as they should let them answer for it for it is not sin of it self Answ The children of Israel that the Commandments were given unto knew God but the Heathen knows him not here all may see what measure thou measures withall And further thou sayest if they pray as they should not and yet not sin is praying as they should and as they should not one by this to call upon God with their lips and the heart not right and the prayers and sacrifice of the wicked is justified Prov. 15.8 and if any pray as they should not are they not condemned for it and if in praying as they should not be not sin then they doe as they should Pr. If folks should not pray because they are uncapable then a believer not finding himself in a good frame may let his prayers alone Answ A Believer is ababe of God and his cry is right his prayer is right and his groan is right 1 John 5.1 And every man that cometh into the world being enlightned and coming into the light which hath enlightned him 1 John 1.7 in that he is to watch and pray which leads him beyond naturals which will be accepted in the degree but he that hates the light his prayer is not accepted but is in the hypocrisie Pr. The Apostles bad Simon Magus an old witchcarle pray and now is there any reason to say we are bidding folk sin when we bid them pray although they be grosly ignorant Answ The Apostle bad him Repent Acts 8.22 and he was sensible he had sinned and that which makes a man sensible of sinne brings him to pray aright and turnes him from witchcraft and so thou dost put no difference between the precious and the vile Ezek. 22.26 the accepted and unaccepted And Hen. Foreside who would have had his people to stone the Quakers and calls it Christian zeal he would have his wall up that he might live in safety who murthers and would be preserved in the murtherous estate and would have the powers of the earth to be his Executioners and pack-horses but the Lord is opening of their eyes that they will not execute their malice though he is stirring up the people to do so so all may see this is not the work of our Lord Jesus Christ but the work of the Murtherer and one that makes himself drunk with the blood of the Saints Rev. 17.6 till he reel again in his madnesse And Christ called them that took up stones to stone him of their Father the Devil for doing his lust John 8.44 And thou who would have the people to stone and calls it Christian zeal thou hast manifested thy Father and to be of the Devil who was a Murtherer from the beginning but you are the Serpents and vipers that would kill to fill the measure of your Fathers Mat. 23.32 and persecute
Mat. 7.23 Mat. 25 41. And he that sinneth after he hath received the truth there remains no more sacrifice for sin but a fearful looking for of judgement Hebr. 10.27 And the elect doth not commit sin and who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods Elect Rom. 8.33 and the Elect is Christ Isai 42.1 who was elected before the world was he that is born of God doth not commit sin neither can he because his seed remains in him 1 John 3.9 And he that commits sin is of the Devil and never knew God vers 6 And here is the children of God maniest and the children of the Devil 1 Joh 3 10 and God hears not sinners and them that regard iniquity Psal 66.18 Joh. 9.31 Prov 15 8 Pr That the great part of the world was ordained for Hell that repent or do all that they are commanded to doe they would not obtain salvation because God had ordained them to Hell Ans Then he was asked wherefore he preached His answer was to save the elect he was answered again if it was so there was no need of that seeing they could not be lost Then he was asked before he preached to them that were ordained to Hell he answered to make their damnation hotter it was answered them again that they had small friends of them and they could not make it hotter seeing they were ordained before the Priest aforesaid was asked who had the blame that men went to Hell His answer was Seeing ye desire to know I shall tell you there is one part of the blame in man and another part of the blame in the Almighty that men went to Hell Ans In this here is confusion thou sayest God hath ordained them thou sayest God has done it then mark then thou sayest there is part in man and thou sayest before it was in God now if it be in God as thou sayest that he hath ordained them to hell repent or do all that they are commanded to do thy preaching is needless and thou cannot add to Hell hotter or colder Therefore thy preaching is done and ceased And thou saist part of the blame that men go to hell is in God here thou wouldest make God unrighteous who desires not the death of a sinner God is not to be blamed in any thing he doth but praised and righteous in all his judgements and God is not to be blamed for God is truth so let God be true and every man a lyar Rom. 3.4 thou wicked one mans destruction is of himself Hos 13.9 and God wills not the death of a sinner but rather that he would repent so no fault in God who saith let the unrighteous man forsake his unrighteousness and he shall live so let the righteous man forsake his righteousnesse and he dies Ezek. 18.22 So my ways are equall the Lord hath no pleasure at all that the wicked should die but that he should return and live so mans destruction is of himself And whereas thou sayest God hath ordained a great part to Hell what makest thou of Christ who came to be a Saviour of the world John 4.42 he doth not say the Elect onely but to save the world and not to condemn it and God so loved the world mark the words John 3.19 he doth not say so hated it that he gave his onely begotten Son into the world that whosoever believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life and he came not to condemn the world but that the world through him might have life but they that hate the light and do not beleeve in it are with the light condemned but thou sayest otherwise that he condemns a great part of the world and he doth not say he loves the Elect onely but God so loved the world and God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself 2 Cor. 5.19 he does not say the Elect onely and he through death hath destroyed the power of death the Devil Heb. 2.14 and thou art to be reproved for thy judgment for thy unbelief for thy righteousness for thy sin because of thy unbelief for thy judgment because the Prince of this world is judged Joh. 16. and so Christ doth not say I am the light of the Saints of the elect onely but I am the light of the world Joh. 8.12 and saith that light is come into the world and this is the condemnation of the world that light is come into to the world and men love darkness rather then it because their deeds are evil Joh. 3.19 So its unbelief that shuts out Rom. 11.20 So the gates stand open night and day and every one that doth evill hates the light and will not come to it because it will reprove him and he will not come in to the gate for he that comes to the gate comes to the light and he that comes to the light comes out of condemnation and comes to be a child of the light he that hates the light will not come into the kingdome of God And for thy saying God hath ordained a great part of the world to Hell let them repent and do all that ever he hath commanded them he that doth the things that Christ commands enters the Kingdome he that repents his mind is changed and whosoever beleeveth shal not perish and this command is general Joh. 10.28 through the whole world therefore thou with the Devils doctrine shuts up the kingdome of Heaven against others and wilt not go in thy self who saies let men repent and do all that ever they can they must go to hell when God wills not the death of a sinner but rather that he should turn from his wickedness and live Ezek. 33.11 but he is merciful and judges not as thou dost whose eyes are blinded and hands full of blood so I say whosoever repents and doth the things they are commanded they shall be saved and that which thou sayest to the contrary we conclude to be the Devils doctrine and whosoever resists the thing that is commanded that will be their condemnation but hates the light which was before the world was which lighteth every man that cometh into the world that all through him might beleeve for he that beleeves in the light shall not abide in darkness John 8.12 shall not come into condemnation shall come to be a child of light John 12.36 and they shall have the light of life and so the light is sufficient to save them and condemn them that beleeve not John 3.18.14 James 4.12 and every one that cometh into the light that they are inlightned withal such come into the election and into the Covenant of God and evill consciences thou mayest frighten them that hates the light which is their condemnation but the elect thou canst neither save nor deceive thanks be to God Christ reigns who will give to every man according to his works who doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world not beleeving is condemned and shut
out and such turn the grace of God into wantonness and are ordained of old that hate the light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world and such be in Cain Balaams way persecutors and murtherers and turns the grace of God into wantonness Pr. From the words of Jude 4. they were of old ordained from these words he said That God had predestinated one to life without any cause in the creature lesse or more and the other wicked man to Hell without any cause in the creature lesse or more and both wicked men And before thou said part of the cause that God cast into hell was in the man and part in God In this seventh principle and doctrine thou saiest there is no cause in the creature that God cast into hell and condemns him and in the other thou said there were part blame in man and part in God and here is the Devils Doctrine a lie found in thy mouth and thou hast wrested perverted and wronged that Scripture in Jude who saith their is no part in man causeth condemnation that all may see you are lyars he saith they were ungodly they turned the grace of God into laciviousness that brings salvation that denyed the Lord that bought them Jude 11. 2 Pet. 2.1 They were covetous made merchandize of the people through fained words so no covetous nor Idolater shall enter into the Kingdome of God 1 Cor. 6.9 and all they deny the Lord that bought them but who owns the light that comes from him which doth enlighten every man that comes into the world and none sees him but with the light that comes from him and they goe in Cores way and gain-sayeth the truth who goe from the light that Christ hath enlightned them in the particular and he that gain-sayeth the truth there is a fault in him and they goe in Cains way that are from the command of God who said if thou dost well shalt thou not be accepted and if he did not well fin lay at the door now these were of old ordained unto condemnation which turned the grace of God into wantonnesse were in Cains way Cores way and brake the commands as Cain did in Balaams way erred from the spirit and admired mens persons because of advantage which Balaam did and loved the wages of unrighteousnes and so these did not do the things they were commanded Cain he did not doe the thing that he was commanded nor Core that offered strange fire and his company Num. 16. So these of old were ordained for this condemnation which condemnation is the light Io. 3. light foresees them and sees over them and condemns them when they arise and goes out from the spirit of God in them and here all may see here was fault worthy of condemnation and those were they that sensually separated themselves from the Apostles and had not the spirit Jude 19 in their dayes which were covetous which went for the gift and reward which were like raging waves of the Sea which were spots in feasts of charity feasting feeding without fear 2 Pet. 2. Which admired mens persons because of advantage and spoke the high words in hypocrisy Wells without water Trees without fruit raging waves of the Sea foming out their own shame clouds without water carryed about with tempests spots in the feasts of charity like unto Sodom and Gomorah in filthiness which goe from the light that does convince them so there is the self separation and their is the condemnation that comes over them the light and these are they that separated from the Apostles which said love your enemies Mat. 5.44 Which are men gone into the world which be in Cains way in envy in Cores way gain-saying the light they are like raging waves of the Sea foming out their shame in their pulpits so you are the men that separates from the Apostles that be in Cains way who be out of the life and sacrifice the Saints were in that would murther and Cores way that gain-sayeth the light that doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world so against the common salvation and ye be like Cain foming and raging in your Pulpits and would murther all that are contrary to you whose Sacrifice God acceptes yours he does not God would have accepted of Cain if he had done well Gen. 4. So God is merciful a just God but Cain he did not well therefore wo went out from God against him and so there was fault in him not in God which was the cause of his condemnation so you that be in Balaams way for the wages of unrighteousness admiring mens persons because of advantage Ye are out of the faith that is held without respect of persons Iam. 2. and so separated from the Apostles to whom Christ said Freely ye have received freely give and you will not give freely who are rageing and foming without you have augmentations stipends gleabe Lands or Tythes great sums of money gifts of rewards from great houses so you deny the light that enlighteneth every man that cometh into the would so gain-sayes the common salvation Jude 1. You gain-say the truth that doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world so in Cores way you are and would have the persons of the Saints murthered so in Cains way as ye confess that ye have not the spirit that gave forth the Scriptures so in the self separation and ye deny the light that enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world which is the Lord John 8.12 And so denies the Lord that bought you 2 Pet. 2.1 And so are for condemnation who are of that flock that separate themselves from the Apostles sensually having not the spirit who are in Cains way that would kill and murther and out of the Apostles way who said love your enemies who are in Balaams way for gifts and rewards and admiring mens persons because of advantage to them speaking high words in hypocrisy and out of the Apostles way to whom Christ said Freely ye have received freely give Mat. 10.6 And out of the Prophets way who said come without a price Isa 55.1 2. And ye will have the price or else you will not come let all that can read Iude over and see if their was not cause in man of his condemnation and not in God and so have not you proved your selves in the Doctrine of Devils and in lyes and would make God unrighteous and the Apostles unrighteous for their was fault in Cain fault in Balaam and fault in Core and fault in Sodome and fault in them that turned the grace of God into wantonnesse which were of old ordained for this condemnation Iude 4. which condemnation is that light is come into the world and men love darknesse rather then light because their deeds are evil and so the Apostles taught that their was fault in man as ye may read Iude and thou hast taught there is none so then thou
hath done and doth he shall live so Gods wayes are equal Ezek. 18. And thou sayest they thought they had been righteous but it was not so And the Lord by the Prophet saith it was so that they should live in their righteousnesse and dye if they depart from it and transgressed here thou art a diminisher from the Prophets and Apostles words whose name is diminished out of the book of life read Rev. 22.19 Pr. He denyed that Christ dyed for all men but for the Elect. Answ Contrary to Johns Doctrine who saith he is the propitiation for our sins and not for our sins onely but for the the sins of the whole world 1 John 2.2 and so it is the unbeliever that is shut out and not believing in the light that men are enlightened withall with which light they might see the one offering who tasted death for every man Heb. 2.9 and doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world that all through him might believe and they that believe not in the light are condemned Joh. 3.18 but believing in the light shall come out of condemnation and he is the Saviour of all men but especially of them that believe 1 Tim. 4.10 and the grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared to all men which was the saints Teacher Titus 2.11 12. and they that turn it into wantonnesse shall with it be condemned Jude 4. and they that set up a heap of teachers 2 Tim. 4.3 after their own lusts and went out from the Apostles doctrine before the Apostles decease 1 John 2.19 and have turned the grace of God that brings salvation into wantonnesse ever since and saith it hath not appeared unto all men which brings salvation which is saving grace and Christ Jesus doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world that they might believe and walke after him and saith they that follow him shall not abide in darknesse but shall become the children of light and have the light of life John 8.12 Now say they that hate the light it is not sufficient it is not a saving light but they shall find it sufficient to condemme them and their unbeliefe for not believing in it for believing in it they come to have the light of life John 8.12 and John 12.36 Pr. He being asked who were hirelings if they were not that did take hire his answer was they were hirelings that did not take hire and to prove it he brought that scripture in Philipians of them that preached Christ of envy and strife Answ Now all may see what doctrine he brings to pervert or rest the scriptures Philip. 1.15 to prove them hirelings that do not take hire that in the Philipians doth not prove that they were hirelings neither did they take hire so that for his purpose makes nothing though for this purpose he brings that scripture but that his folly and darknesse might appeare and be made manifest by the light for now to it his deeds are come who is unfit to talke of the scripture Pr. He said it was the cleare mark of the Devil to go up and down from place to place to preach as the Quakers doe Answ Now here in this he may charge all the prophets Christ and his Apostles which went up and downe from place to place Heb. 11. that this is the marke of the Devill but this is too manifest to bring to light and discover the Presbyterian Priests of Scotland who lies in Dens and Corners and fat benefits and there stick in the earth and are crept into houses who say it is the Devills marke to go up and downe to preach but this is that they may manifest themselves to be judged by the practice of Christ and his Apostles that their folly might appear unto all men Luke 9.5.8 Heb. 11. likewise the Presbyterian Priest are turned like ranters who saith whatsoever man doth God hath a hand in doing of it whether Good or Evil if a man commit never so much sinne and live never so wickedly he shall go to Heaven if he be ordained there to come how was God greived when David sinned the Lord was angry the Lord was wrath when the children of Israel sinned against him it greived the Lord that he had made man when all flesh had corrupted his way Gen. 6.6 and thou and you go about to make God the author of sin and saith God hath a hand in it whatsoever a man doth here again you and thou be in the doctrines of Devils what shall we say that God is the author of sin God forbid Rom. 6. they that transgresse the commandments of God provoke him to anger and though God created the evil Isa 49.7 yet his commandments was to man that he should not go into it Gen. 2.17 Gen. 4.7 Ezek. 18. but when he did he transgressed the command of God so he who saith if ye murther God is the author of it if ye persecute God is the author of it if ye do unrighteously God is the author of it you that murther persecute and do not righteously are of him that kept not the command of God of whom ye are Joh. 44. that would persecute and murther thou art gone out of the command of God and joyned with the Devil 1 John 3.8 that went out of the truth the Devil he went out of his estate and the woman hearkned to him and went out of her estate and man to the woman Gen. 3. The Jews went out of their state when they persecuted Mat. 27.25 Cain went out of his state when he murthered Gen. 4. The Christians went out of their estate fince the daies of persecution who had the name of Christianity Cain went out of his state when he murthered and Balaam went out of his state when he coveted the wages of unrighteousness and admired mens persons Numb 22. Jude 11. Core went out of his state when he gain-said the truth Num. 16. Jude 11. the false Prophet and the Antichrist which is the Beast and the mother of Harlots went forth from the state of the Apostles 1 John 2.19 which hath been fince the daies of the Apostles and so all wars and fightings and adversaries is because of being out of the truth fallen out of it James 4. there is pride and Lucifer Isai 14. and that is it that is of old ordained to condemnation Jude 4. and to be kept down and to be condemned everlastingly and there the time that shall be witnessed fit for the fire and Death and Hell and the false Prophet and the Dragon and the Serpent cast into it Rev. 20.14 but leaven is known that leavens into the new lump 1 Cor. 5.7 the everlasting fire that burns for ever Mark 9.46 how are the professions formes and religions fallen from the state and lost the state and out of the state that Christ was in the Prophets were in Abraham was in David was in Moses and the Apostles was in and remains in a form of their
enlightned The Magistrates be in that power which goes over him and is a praise to them that be in the light and the Ministers of God is to bring from under the occasion of the Magistrates sword George Weare being with his friend standing in the field neer Foord meeting-house as they call it he neither speaking nor acting any thing against any man but standing in the fear of the Lord with his friend William Lowry and John Hambleton called Justices committed him to prison where they lay twenty and three dayes and here is his innocency preached The original righteousness was before the fall The original of self-righteousness was that which fell and is in the fall that transgressed And in the Catechism which is tollerated by the general Assembly and in the Catechise of Scotland called A Short Catechism They say that the Word of God is contained in the Scriptures Answ And the Scriptures are writings and it saith God is the Word John 1.1 1 Kings 8.27 Solomon saith The Heaven of Heavens cannot contain him and you say he is contained in the Scriptures with his writings and you say there is Three persons and the Scripture doth not speak of Three persons and the Jewes had the Scriptures and knew not Christ the Word of God Then ye tell people of an outward ordinary meanes by which Christ Communicates the benefit of Redemption The word Sacraments the Scripture doth not speak of Three Persons and Sacraments they are Papists words of them ye have learned them the meanes of salvation is not ordinary or outward but Christ is the salvation who is Eternall Heb. 5.9 and they that come to him come to the end of the outward Col. 1.27 Ye say the Sacraments are the Effectuall meanes to salvation and ye say again they are not as they are themselves so here is confusion but onely by the blessing of Christ and his spirit in them How do ye differ from the Papists for they say he is in them and ye say his Spirit is in them and where his Spirit is is not he Oh blinde are ye found out go ye home to your Mother the Papist where Christ Spirit is he is And ye say your two Sacraments is Baptisme and the Lords Supper The Scripture doth not call Baptisme and the Lords Supper two Sacraments which Names you and the Papists adore and worship which you have given to them again you in your Catechize call the First day in the week the Sabbath-day Where did ever any of the Ministers of Christ or Christians un-apostatized call it so are not you come unto the breach and guilty of your owne judgement Of the third Commandment when ye give another Name to the Scriptures then they give themselves in calling them the Word and calling Baptisme and the Supper the Sacraments Exodus 20. Moses saith God spake all these words when he gave forth the Commandements mark words and the words of Christ are Spirit and Life John 6.63 God is the Word John 1.1 and Christ is the Word Rev. 19.13 and the Word became Flesh and dwelt among us John 1.14 And them that had the words of the Scriptures which cannot be broken John 10.35 the Law and the Prophets they knew not Christ the Word before they be brought to the light that Christ hath inlightned them with and they be brought to the Spirit John 5.37 John 8.19 Can the whole world say the Lords Prayer in truth or was it taught his Disciples or to the world doth not people draw nigh to God with their lips that say it Isaiah 20.13 and are not in the light which every man is lighted that cometh into the world withall Can ye say the Lords Prayer which is Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that trespasse against us without Hypocrisie How do ye forgive them when ye would have them persecuted and would have them stoned you that be Teachers of the people and how do ye love your neighbours as your selves and fulfill the Law and the Prophets Mat. 7.12 to do so as you would be done by To ye Presbyterians of Scotland I speak that be teachers whose principles is to stone chop off heads and persecute them that be contrary minded to you would ye have those that be contrary to your mindes stone you to death chop off your heads imprison and banish you and persecute and excommunicate you This is the Law and the prophets to do as ye would be done by as others should do to you so do unto them but Christ who is the end of the Law and the prophets Rom. 10.4 saith his doctrine is to love enemies Mat. 5.44 and saith if men persecute you pray for them and blesse them that curse you do good to them that hate you and pray for them that persecute you and despitefully use you that you may be the children of your father which is in heaven who makes the Sun to shine upon the evil and the good and the rain to descend upon the just and the unjust if ye love them that love ye what reward have ye the Publicans and Pharisees do so and the apostatized Christians who are got into the formes of words but out of the life of the Saints of Christ and the Apostles and there they are saluting their brethren onely but saith Christ be ye perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect which you stand against so ye are they that have denyed the one offering which hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified Heb. 10.14 And makes the blood of Christ of none effect which cleanseth from all sin and the new Covenant which blots out all sin and transgression and all upon the earth professors and worshipers that call your selves Brethern and Christians and offerers of what sort soever that have but the name before thou offers be reconciled to thy brother go leave the gift at the alter and be reconciled to thy brother and then come and offer thy gift Mat. 5.24 then will the Lord accept thy offering and all upon the earth that prayeth so that ye doe forgive others that trespasse against you as you would have the Lord forgive you your trespasses Oh how is the beauty of the Church of Presbyterians marred and deformed oh how are they become Cages of unclean birds Synagogues of Sathan Oh how are their Teachers become envious men and murtherers of Cains Stock in whom the eternall life is not abideing That would club stone and chop off heads of strangers servants of the Lord God and Sonnes and Daughters and Excommunicate and put out of their Synagogues these things have I spoken unto you that ye should not be offended John 16.2 they shall excommunicate you yea the time cometh that they that kill you shall think they do God good service these things will they do unto you because they never knew the Father nor me These things have I told you before that when the time comes ye may remember that I told
be not forgetful to entertain strangers for some have entertained Angels unawares when as ye would have the servants of the Lord prisoned and stocked and stoned to death or their heads chopped off so you are them that be in Cains way vagabonds from the Spirit of God now a vagabond hath not a habitation in God but wanders from the witnesse of God in him like Cain who built a City and called it after his Sons name Heb. 13.2 Gen. 4. I am the light of the world that lighteth every one that cometh into the world saith Christ the Saviour of our souls every one going from the light ye be enlightened withall ye are vagabonds and have have not a habitation in God and so goes into Cains way envious and would slay Balaams and Cores way which are with the light condemned and like unto those Jewes That haled out of the Synagogues that Christ spake of that goes in long Robes and are called of men Master but Christ saith be ye not called of men Master for one is your Master even Christ Mat. 23. Christ said they that went in long Robes loved the chiefest places in the assemblies should hale out of the Synagogues and they that do these things be gone from the light John 3.19 Joh. 16.2 All this perswading of corrupt Magistrates to persecute them that reprove sin in the gates in the Steeple-houses streets and highways is because men have a self-ish end and a private interest to themselves both Professors of Scriptures and Teachers and them that doth persecute hath a self-ish honour and an interest to themselves and so the self-ish Professors Teachers Magistrates that persecutes for them they have a form of godliness but the witness lies slain in them and they matter not for that rising for in that rising all the deeds words and actions come to light and then if the witness of God arise in them they will not be offended at such as reproves sin in their Gates Markets Steeple-houses and Streets for all upon the earth while they are from the witness of God in them they are corrupted and they may get the form of godliness the form of Christs the Prophets and Apostles words and live out of the power and be in the Religion that is vain for none upon the earth comes to the power of godliness but first they must come to the witness of God in them and there is none upon the earth that ever comes to the first principle of the pure Religion but first they must come to the witness of God in them There 's none knows the Scriptures given forth from the power and Spirit of God which was in the Saints but first they are brought to the Spirit of God in their own particulars Come all you Officers and Souldiers now after ye have ease and have overcome your enemies without take heed least you sit down in your ease and fulness and fall down into the earth and flesh and feastings and fulness and pride and so corrupts the earth and your selves and not come down to the witness of God in you whereby the enemy of God and of your own souls might be slain that you might come to find rest and peace in God after your outward wars and so come to the inward wars which takes away the cause of the outward whereby you may all come into true understanding to answer that of God in every one for them that do evil act contrary to that of God in them to such the sword is a terror and a praise to them that do well which is led by the Spirit of God up to God who is pure out of the evil and all Magistrates swords upon the earth should reach to that which is pure in every one to the soul so it takes away that which wars against it that breaks the outward so comes the soul to be subject to the higher power that 's above the transgressor which all the Magistrates and Rulers upon the earth must give an account to and there is none upon the earth that comes to worship God in the spirit and in truth but who first come to own that of God in them and there is none upon the earth that are like to retain God in their knowledge nor his Covenant while their minds is reprobated from that of God in them There all may see the Covenant of Grace to all men and the Covenant of light and life with the Father he gave him for a Covenant of light to the Gentiles to the Heathen I will make a new Covenant with the house of Israel and Judah the people of God I will write my Law in their hearts and their mindes so saith Christ the Covenant of God I am the light of the world and doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world that all men through the light of the Covenant of God might beleeve it is the Covenant of God that every man that cometh into the world is enlightned withal and every one that hates the light wherewith they are enlightned withall hates the Covenant and the light condemns him and here all men may see the free grace of God that brings salvation hath appeared to all men the grace of God that brings the salvation the turning the grace of God into wantonness and walking despightfully against the Spirit of grace they neglect their salvation and bring punishment and condemnation upon them as it s written in Jude Concerning Election and what is elected the grace of God which brings salvation hath appeared to all men the clearing Gods Justice and the fault is in man for his condemnation There is a precious thing in these Scots but there is a filthy beastly durty thing lyeth over Lodowick Semerell Priest of the new Steeple-house of Monkeland his proceedings towards Margaret Hambleton MArgaret Hambleton went to him to aske the causes why he would excommunicate her he said for three causes First For that she denyed the Presbytery Secondly For denying the Ordinances Thirdly For not forsaking the company of seducers and hereticks Her answere to the first was your Presbytery I do deny because it is tyranical and hath no power given of God but what ye take from men for ye rule as Lords over Gods heritage The Priest said she was ignorant of Scriptures for they spake of the laying on the hands of the Presbytery she then bid him read the Hebrew copy which said the laying on the hands of the Elders and true Elders that ruled for the Lord I owne but such as thou that preaches for filthy lucre that are Covetous as Timothy I deny Secondly Thy saying I deny the Ordinances is a lie for all the Ordinances of Jesus Christ I owne as Preaching Praying or Reading as any is moved of the Lord so to do I own them for he that ministreth out of the ability that God hath given him or any speaking as the Oracle of God them I own and this is according to plain
you cannot deceive the Nations any more as ye have done Again the Priests of the Presbytery belonging to Glascow made a fast and excommunicated these persons viz. William Gray and James Findly and charged people not to let them come into their houses commanding them to have no commerse with them in buying nor selling nor borrowing nor lending and James Findly being a Smith they charged people that they should not work with him for if they did they should be excommuicated also and Henry Foreside Priest of that parish again told them that it was acted in the presbytery that if any work any longer work that pertaines to the Smiths trade with James Findly they should be excommnicants and should not parake with any of his Church-Ordinances as marriage sprinkling the children and communion of bread and wine which act several of the people murmures under but say they must obey it contrary to their minds because they cannot bear the Priests wrath Again John Burnett Priest of Kilbrid charged his hearers to have no dealings in civil affaires with these people called Quakers that were excommunicated and he summoned such to his Sessions which had eaten or drunken bought or sold with them requiring them to make publick confession before the people that they had given offence in so doing c. Again Robert Paul one of the Priests elders said he would convert James Findly and his doctrine to convert him by was this That the Scripture was the word And secondly That the Scriptures was God Thirdly That the Scriptures is the way to the Kingdom of Heaven and no other under Heaven Fourthly That the scriptures is the Holy Ghost that the Father promised that he would send that should reprove the world of sin c. Ans If he had said that the Scripture is that which testifie of these things that doctrine had bin more like to have converted for the scripture saith That the word was in the begining before scripture was and it saith that Christ is the way and there is no other Name under Heaven by which men shall be saved but by Christ it doth not say that by no other name but the scripture so that all such doctrine will pervert people from God and not convert them to God And the same Robert Paul said he would respect mens persons and that he would never be free from fin neither was it possible Answ How can thou do any other but respect persons and commit sin while thou denyes God to be God and Christ to be the way and would make the scriptures both to be God and the way to God and would make them the spirit the gift of the Father but herein thou art blind and leads none but the blind and doth pervert and not convert for thou art ignorant of that which convinceth the world of sin yet which is the Spirit of truth which the scripture testifies of but that thou must first come to know to convince thee of and to condemn thy darkness before thou do either convince or convert any unto God James Gartsore Priest said they loved God which keeped not his commandements Answ Which is contrary to the Apostles doctrine which saith If any man saith that he loves God and keeps not his Commandments he is a lyar and the truth is not in him and hereby do we know wee love God because wee keepe his commandements 1 John 2.3 4. and his Commandements are not grievous but joyous And Christ saith Why call ye me Lord and doth not the thing that I command you so that none loves God but he who keeps his Commandements and abideth in him and he that abideth in him sinneth not 1 John 3.6 Peter Kid Priest of Douglasse said Put a man in never such a close place his soule will run like a post horse Answ Thou shewest that thou art ignorant of the soul and never knew what it was nor knowes how to Minister to it nor how to watch over it But if thou had seen thine own condition thou might have said that thy vain thoughts and wandring imaginations runs to and fro in the earth and thy mind is not staid upon God and art not come to know the first principal of the the time Religion that which should stay thy mind upon God so thou art to wait to be taught and not to teach William Simerwell Priest of Petinance said that Christ died for the Elect and godly people of the world and not for the Turks and Pagans and Barbarians c. Answ Christ died for sinners according to the Scriptures Rom. 5.8 And he came to call sinners to repentance not the righteous or godly Mat. 9.13 And Christ died for all 2 Cor. 5.14 15. And is the propitiation for our sins saith the Apostle that was the believers and not for ours onely but for the sins of the whole World and the Gospel is to be preached to every Creature and remission of sins in his Name to Turks Pagans and Barbarians So herein thou hast shewed that thou was never made a Minister of the Gospel unto any neither knoweth what the Gospel is to be Ministred unto so therefore be silent and learn no more to blaspheme God and his truth as thou hast done Again Priest Simerwell saith Christ calls all men every where to repent but he will not that all should Repent Answ Here thou would make Christ a deceiver and so hath manifested thy selfe to be Antichrist what doth Christ call men to do that which he would not have them to do What is there any guile to be found in his mouth would thou go about to turne the truth of the Scriptures into a lye which saith That God wills that all men should come to the knowledge of the truth that they might be saved and thou here hath charged Christ foolishly and falsly in saying that he calls them to do that which he would not have them to do when he calls all men every where to Repent The Priest of the Presbytery belonging to Glascow summoned James Findly and William Gray to be examined by him for Heresy as they say and when they appeared they shut the door and would let none hear their examination manifesting themselves to be in darknesse and afraid to bring their deeds to the Light left their deceipts should have been laid open and reproved but they would not answere untill the doors were set open and all people to here that would come in Truth is bold and seeks no Corners They Priests affirmed that the Light which every one is enlightened withall is naturall c. Answ Here they manifest their ignorance of the life of Christ which is spirituall whose life is the light of men and this is the true light that lighteth every man that comes into the world and this light is pure that Christ doth enlighten every one withall and whosoever doth truth love the Light and brings his deeds to the light to be proved and by the Light
was never any since the world began was free from sin nor never shall be write that said he Answ Which is quite contrary to plain Scripture Rom. 6.18 20 22. Being made free from sin ye became the servants of righteousnesse for when ye were the servants of sin ye were free from righteousnesse but now being made free from sin and become servants of God ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end everlasting life for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord And Paul said Rom. 8.2 The Law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death A Relation of some of the Sufferings of Friends to the Truth in Scotland JOhn Roberton called Lord of Ornock publickly refused to enter Andrew Hambleton in Shawton-hill in his possession under him because he was excommunicated by the Priests Witnesses of this Elexander Hambleton and John Strudders William Gray James Findly John Gray Robert Smally John Robine was summoned to be upon a Jewry at Dunbarton and when they came there and went within the Barr they puld off their Bonnets and bad them swear unto whom they answered they would not swear But they will tell the Truth and take God to be their Witnesse upon it but this they would not receive for John Callhonne called the Sheriffs deputy bad them swear by God and hold up their hands or go into prison and it was answered we dare not transgresse the Doctrine of Christ who said swear not at all he said it was but the Law of Christ that bad men not swear but the Law of God bad men swear and so would have set the old law over Christ who is the end of it who forbids swearing And because they durst not transgresse the Doctrines of Christ in which the Apostle lived who said Above all things my Bretheren swear not at all they put them all five into Prison The Heads of that which past in Discourse betwixt the People called Quakers and the two Priests of Hambleton in the Priests house The Names of the Priests are Jam. Nesmith and John English in which Discourse they have manifested themselves and all the rest of their Generation to be none of the Ministers of Christ but the Ministers of Anti-christ who preaches another Gospel then the Apostles did as in the Discourse following you may plainly see And also some Reasons why we deny them First JAmes Nesmith said There is no salvation in an ordinarie way for sinners without externall Revelation from the Scriptures Answ Here all may see they hold out another way to salvation then the Prophets and the Apostles did for they said Christ was given for salvation to the ends of the earth Isay 49.6 and there was not salvation in any other nor no other Name given by which any can be saved but by the Name of Jesus Acts. 4.12 But that salvation they tell of which is by external revelation from the Scriptures was never held forth by the Prophets nor the Apostles nor declared of in all the Scriptures of Truth therefore all may see they are such as preach another Gospel then the Apostles did and so are to be holden accursed and turned away from Gal. 1.8 Jam. Nesmith said That Christ doth not excommunicate the knowledge of himself but by the Scriptures and that the Scripture is the means by which the knowledge of God is imparted Answ This is a lye and Scripture contradiction For Christ who doth communicate the knowledge of himself by his own Spirit saith none knows the Son but the Father neither doth any man know the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son will reveal him Mat. 11.27 So it is not by the Scriptures that the true knowledge of God is imparted to any man but by Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 The second Priest John English First Said the Vail that was over people in the time of the Law was the Old Testament and it was taken away by the New Testament Answ Sin was and is the vail by which the mystery was vailed all the time of the Law until now for when Moses is read the same vail remains over their hearts for their minds was and is blinded by the God of this World lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ which is the Image of God should shine unto them 2 Cor. 4.4 nevertheless when their hearts shall be turned to the Lord the vail shall be taken away 2 Cor. 3.16 which vail is done away in Christ 2 Cor. 3.14 and not by the Scripture which they call the New Testament and here John English is proved to be a lyar and of his father the Devil who is a lyar from the beginning 2. John English said That the Gospel that was preached to Abraham was the same for matter but not for substance neither was it a clear Gospel Answ The Gospel that was preached to Abraham was the same for matter and substance which Paul preached for matter and substance is one and it was a clear Gospel for Christ the substance was preached to Abraham and Abraham saw his day and rejoyced John 8.56 Therefore give over deceiving the people with lies and repent 3. John English said The Scripture is the glasse by which we see the Face of God Answ This is a lie and Scripture contradiction for the Apostle saith God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness hath shined in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 Mark the Priests ignorance or the Scriptures and here all may see that he is one of them that keeps people in darkness from seeing the face of God and erres not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God 4. John English said The foundation of the Prophets and Apostles was meant the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament Answ The Prophets and Apostles meant what they speak and the same foundation which they declared of and builded upon did 〈◊〉 Enoch Noah and others who died in the Faith before the Old and New Testament was written build upon which foundation was Christ the Rock of Ages the foundation of the chief Corner Stone 2 Tim. 2.19 1 Cor. 2.11 But thou art one of them that drawes people from the foundation of the Prophets and the Apostles to build upon thy lies and consequences which building and foundation the Lord will bring to naught for he is risen to sweep away the refuge of lies which thou and thy generation hath been covered with and will make you naked and bare for your covering is too short that your shame cannot be hid any longer 5. John English said That they had their commission from Paul to give Bread and Wine Answ Here hast thou made it plainly manifest that thou and thy generation are none of the Ministers of Christ who say you have your