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A86648 The common salvation contended for, and the faith which was once delivered to the saintsĀ· Or, An answer to a book called a plain answer to eighteen queries of Iohn Whitehead, put forth by William Kays, who calls himself minister of the Gospel at Stokesly; wherein he hath perverted the faith once delivered to the saints, and pleads for those things which the Scripture declares against, and so he is made manifest, not to be a minister of the everlasting Gospel, but preachesanother [sic] Gospel. The queries laid down, and the substance of his answer, with a reply to his answer. / By one who is a friend to all, who wait for the appearance of Iesus Christ without sin to salvation, known to the world by the name. Francis Howgill. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1655 (1655) Wing H3155; Thomason E824_3; ESTC R18577 18,636 20

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sin he had not known sin but by the Law so thou hadst not known the anointing had not he Scriptures declared it and thou sayest without it there is nothing to be known here thou blind guide thou puts the Scriptures in the room of God and wouldst exalt it above God and hast made thy folly manifest that thou never knew the anointing but by hearsay and if thou hast not had their words who witnessed the anointing in themselves thou hadst not known whether there had been such a thing and thou that knows nothing but without thee knows nothing at all and yet the Scripture is able to make wise unto salvation and perfect the man of God through faith in Christ Iesus but of the man of Gods estate thou knowest nothing of who art pleading and holding up those things which the men of God witnessed against V. Query Whether thou own Christ to be the light of the world and hath enlightned every one yea or no VI Query Whether thou own the word of Iohn 1. 9. where he witnessed Christ to be the true light which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world Answ. Thou saith thou thinkst it s not amiss to declare that Christ is not onely the light of the world through Revelation but in works of miracles and meritorious sufferings and as he gives to all creatures the light in their Creation Reply Thy thoughts are vain and not as Gods thoughts he is but one who is the light of the world and in him is no darkness at all the light is but one and the same light in which he lives the same light the Saints lives in who are guided by him who is the light and the light is but one in him that loves it and in him that hates it the one he loves it and the other he hates it and thou that art making distinctions of the light art divided from the light and so makes many lights by thy imaginations and so perverts the Scripture And where readst thou of meritorious suffering of Christ in the Scripture nay thou art so ignorant of him who is the true light and hath not so much as a form of sound words and where reads thou of such a distinction of natural and spiritual light in Christ thy rule shall try thee and thou shalt be judged by it for in thy serpents wisdome thou wouldst darken the counsel of God and rent the Scripture in pieces by thy imaginations and thou never knewst what the light of Christ was and never shall comprehend it with all thy distinctions and though the world is in darkness yet the light shines in darkness but this is a mystery and sealed to thee and therefore thou wouldst give thy meanings upon their words who were in the light VII Query Whether it is not blasphemy to call the true light of Christ which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world a natural light and whether they do not deny the Scriptures that say that every one is not enlightned with the true light yea or no Answ. Is light by just consequence and not otherwise called naturall so the light may be called supernatural which is properly called Christs light and thou tells of ordinary lights Reply Thy consequences are denyed thou art in the Philosophy and vain deceits where reads thou in Scripture of a natural and supernatural light and where reads thou that the light which is in every creature is ordinary light and ●● thou goe●t on to prove that there is two lights in Christ and that the light of Christ is natural and spiritual and so would make two Christs is Christ spiritual and is that which is his light natural a natural man understands not the things of God but the light which comes from Christ which is but one not divided but is spiritual it leads to an understanding of the things of God and that which may be known of God is revealed in man but thou art ignorant and blind and cannot comprehend it that which is natural is carnal and so thou wouldst make a carnal Christ as one like thy self affirmed who called himself a Minister of Christ but he that loves the light is led up out of darkness to the light of life and he that hates the light it s his condemnation and he is but one that judges and saves his people from their sin and in the last part of thy answer thou sayest thou acknowledgest the light of the Law of Christ to be more or less in the light of nature here again thy ignorance is made manifest Paul said the Law was spiritual and the Law of the spirit of life in Iesus had freed him from the Law of sin and death was that natural is Christ spiritual and his Law natural for shame be silent and speak not of the Law it is holy is that natural and thou speaks of putting the light of Christ under a bushel and some that destroy Christs light thou blind Pharisee thou art he that puts the light of Christ under a bushel that walks in those things and pleads for those things which they declared against and thou art he that goes about to destroy Christs light which is pure and eternal and calst it natural and supernatural when the light is but one and thou that wouldst divide the light art divided from it and walks not by it and so art in darkness till now and thou saith further that as Christ is pleased he can by the preaching of the Gospel open thine eyes and turn them from darkness to light here again thy shame and thy nakedness appears hast thou professed thy self a Minister of the Gospel and a teacher and are thy eyes unopened yetart thou yet unturned from darkness unto light then darkness speaks and wrote the book and darkness cannot comprehend the light and wouldst thou be judging of the light and of Christ that is yet in darkness for shame own thy condemnation for what thou hast done in speaking in the name of the Lord he accepts no such testimony nor the testimony of them that walk in darkness and not in the light and he will judge thee who is the light for perverting the truth in thy dark mind and thou confesseth that thou art blind and thine eyes are not yet opened then how canst thou declare of him whom thou hast neither seen nor heard and here be a witness against thyself VIII Query Whether the true light of Christ which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world which discovereth all the deeds of darkness is not sufficient to lead all those that love and follow him into holiness and all truth seeing Christ who is the light saith that those that follow him shall not abide in darkness but have the light of life Answ. To this thou answers Yea it is when it is revealed and in thy answer to the third Query thou saith there is nothing that can be known but by the Scriptures and so here
thou lyes in confusion and Babylon and puts the letter for the light of Christ and so art blind indeed as thou confessed thy eyes were not opened and thou was not turned from darkness and thou saith Christs light when it is revealed is sufficient the light which Christ Iesus hath enlightned every one withal is made manifest and convinceth of all ungodlyness and worldly lust yea he which is the Comforter convinceth the world of sin as the Scripture witnesseth neither is their any other light in the world that convinceth the lyer the swearer the drunkard but that light that comes from Christ and this is the condemnation of them that hate it and that which declares against unrighteousness is righteous and that which shews sin is holy and thou that calls this natural thy eye is blind and thy understanding is darkned and thy ear heavy and so can neither hear see not understand it now the natural man understands not the things of God but the light of Christ in every mans conscience understands by it what is not of God and by it he comes to see sin that it is against God and therefore I am a witness against thee and against all the hirelings in the world that by the light which a measure is given to every one that he that loves it It leads to the the light of life and though the light shine in a naturall man yet it is not natural but seven seals and upon this to the serpents seed and he that hates it and disputes against it shall never know it and thou saith whosoever hath this light of Christ may see to obey Magistrates and Ministers Lords day worship fasting praying singing as well as to avoid blasphemy and profanness Magistrates we obey in the Lord and all their just commands but we deny flattery and deceit and respecting persons but honours the power that is of God and that which is acted by them which is not of God we suffer for conscience sake and resists not but all that thou obeys is without in flattery and deceit and hath mens persons in admiration because of advantage and Ministers of Christ we own who are sent of God and honours such but thee and all the hirelings and imitaters Ianes and Iambres like we deny and are bold to declare against you all who walk contrary to the Saints and that which you call your rule and are a generation of hypocrites and your rule shall judge you all and thou art tried by it when all along thy answers thou pleads against the Scripture and adds thy meanings and God will judge thee for it and thy shame shall be made manifest to all the day of the Lord we own blessed be that day but it shall burn as an oven against all deceivers and hypocrites and false Prophets and this thou shalt know and witness and baptism and watching and fasting and praying and singing this is witnessed the same that ever was and the power of godliness but we deny thee and all such as go and baptize and then preach repentance to them fourty years after and fasting thou might have been sparing in this pull out the beam I speak to thy conscience how often hast thou fasted and crossed thy lust nay all is too little hay and corn Calves Lambs Eggs and Swines flesh and all is to little for you but you are still at a want and removing from one place to another for filthy lukre and makes merchandise of souls for dishonest gain and sues men at the Law as many can witness in the North of England and casts those in prison that they call their flock and so you are as ravening wolves greedy of your prey and as foxes in the desert that devours all that resist you and then cries they are not subject to the Magistrates nor Ministers and then saith the labourer is worthy of his hire and brings this for a cloak when as they never hired you and yet you seek wages of them you do not work for to maintain your luks Howl ye Caterpillers and Cankerworms that devours the earth and spends your time in the lusts of the flesh and yet accuses others and as for thy prayers they stink God hears not sinners and while thou lives in this nature pleading for those things which the Scripture declare against and thy songs shall be turned into lamentation and howling the dead cannot praise nor the blind and thou saith thou art blind and deaf what hast thou to preach or pray or sing and so cease thy gainsaying the hand of the Lord is against thee and the Scripture was not given out for thee to prattle on and for those things thou cals ordinances thou had not known such a thing as in the answer to the fourth Query thou confessest and so let shame cover thy face and let thy mouth be stopped and all flesh keep silence for what is known without leads no●●o God but that which may be known of God is revealed in man Rom. 2. and the time is come Iesable that hath slain the Prophets shall be cast into torment and she shall prophesie no more and by the light which thou sets all nought shall thou and all the inchanters and diviners be confounded to it shall all Nations how for he from whom it come is King of Kings and Lord of Lords who makes war in righteousness and is now coming to cut off all by the edge of the sword who hath prophefied lies in his name and caused men to abhor the service of the living God IX Query Whether the end of begisting and sending forth Ministers is for the perfecting of the Saints and for bringing them up to his measure or fulness yea or no Answ. Yea. Reply Here thou thy self shall be a witness against all the Ministery which long hath been in this Nation for verily it is so far from perfecting of the Saints that openly the Ministry pleadeth against it and cryeth out of those that witness it to be in error and here thou shalt stand as a witness for the truth against thy self and against all thy Brethren X. Query Whether any shall grow up under thy Ministery to a perfect man to the measure of fulness and stature of Christ yea or no Answ. Thou sayest speaking of thy own hearers they are at age ask them and try them whether there be not some that will not avoid to answer thee to which I do Reply It may be some of thy hearers might be as impudent in speaking lies against their own conscience as thou art in writing against the Commands of Christ but that in their conscience to which I desire to be known and to the upright principle in them to which I desire to speak will not witness that under thy Ministery they have attained to perfection but are yet learning under thee and never able by thee to come to the knowledge of the truth and that which is of God in them shall witness