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A85049	A true relation of a dispute between Francis Fullwood minister of West-Alrington in the county of Devon, and one Thomas Salt-House, as 'tis said, of the county of Westmerland: before the congregation of them, called, Quakers; with some others that accidentally heard thereof: in the house of Henry Pollexsen, Esq; in the said parish of West-Alrington. On Tuesday the 24th day of October 1656. / Published by some that were present at the dispute; out of a single and sincere desire, that error may be shames, and the truth cleared. Together with an answer to James Godfries queries, by the said F.F.	Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693.	1656 (1656)	Wing F2520; Thomason E892_12; ESTC R206561	22,146	38

am that the Papasts give you their doctrine and send you abroad to deliver it Man Quak. So then thou doest not think we are Papists Full. No truly But I beleeve you are deluded by them and used to manage their desparate and hellish designs But let me proceed to demand of you satisfaction in one thing seeing my present liberty goeth no farther 't is this Pray how do you prove that the Ministry of England preacheth another Gospel than that which Paul preached for that was one of the marks of the false prophets as you charge the Ministry of England to be and which I am here to challenge you to make good viz. that we preach another Gospel than that which Paul preached Quak. Who said thou wast a false prophet thou appliest it to thy self Full. Then am I a false prophet or not Quak. I did not say thou wast Full. But did not you mean the Ministry of England in your marks of false prophets Quae. I own a Ministry I own a Ministry in England for all thou saist I deny it One of the Company We do all understand that by false prophets he means the publick Ministry Full. I challenge him then to prove if he can that we preach another Gospel than that which Paul preached Qua. So I will Paul had his Gospel not of man nor by man but from God but thou hast thy Gospel by man Full. We attain to the Gospel another way than Paul did therefore our Gospel is another Gospel this I utterly deny prove this if you can that our different manner of receiving the Gospel doth render it another Gospel Qua. Doth not Paul say that he was an Apostle not of man nor by man but by the revelation of Christ Jesus and then tells us if any man preach another Gospel c. Full. But prove if you can that the manner of receiving did thus make it another Gospel Yea good people mark for in this his own text his argument is utterly ruined Gal. 1. 8 9. Though an Angel from heaven preach any other Gospel than that which I have preached or than that which you have received let him be accursed Observe 't is the same Gospel that Paul preached and that they received by his preaching Yet Paul as was said received this same Gospel immediatly from God and these Galatians from man from Pauls preaching therefore you may easily perceive that the d●fferent manner of giving or receiving the Gospel doth not make another Gospel the same Gospel is received by them from Paul which Paul received by the revelation of Jesus Christ Quak. But didst thou receive the Gospel as Paul did Full. I receive the Gospel from Paul as these Galatians did even from the same writings of Paul and they received the same from Paul which he received from God and therefore we receive the same Gospel which Paul did receive from the hands of God himself which Gospel we preach and not another The Company This is plain enough Go on to something else Quak. But thou preachest for Hire Full. I shall answer that anon but first do you prove that I preach another Gospel than Paul preached Quak. Thou preachest for Hire the Prophets prophesie falsly the Priests bear rule by their means we preach for nothing Full. Come come Sir You have told us that what you deliver you have by revelation from Heaven wherein I tell you you blaspheme the Lord Did God send you with lies and slanders to rail and reproach c Quak Did I slander thee wherein Full. You have slandered the Ministers in many things to name but one you have said to the people that the false prophets meaning us in the Ministry deny the light that is in all men Quak. Doest not thou say that there is no light in every man Full. No nor I beleeve any Minister in England The Company Then herein you are agreed Full. So far we are yet lest I should be misunderstood I shall shew wherein we differ about this light which is in every man We hold that this light is not of it self sufficient to lead men to salvation you as I conceive hold that it is sufficient to salvation Quak. Away with thy meanings and conceivings the word of God is not of any private interpretation Full. Stay friend I have a word of exhortation Wherefore according to a passage in your discourse you are bound to hold your peace Qua. Speak then Full. My discourse shall be grounded upon those known words Joh. 1. The true light which enlighteneth every man which cometh into the world This light is by severall parties taken in three severall senses yet it will appear that in neither of these it is sufficient to salvation Qua. He is at his senses and meanings again First Some take this light to be the relicks of that naturall knowledg which the goodness of God hath left and kept in man since the fall Now we grant that thus all men are enlightned yet it is very evident that all men are not savingly enlightened hereby for the Scripture witnesseth that some men have no such light in them namely such as speak not according to Isa 8. 20. this law and testimony of the word of God and notwithstanding this common light the Gentiles sate in darkness and in the shadow of death Secondly Others may suppose that every man is enlightened by Christ as Mediatour that all the light that is in men was purchased for them by the death of Christ and is wrought in them by the common influence of his spirit upon the world and thus they say Christ enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world Now should we admit this sense of the words yet this light as it is in every man will be found in Scripture to be onely common and not saving or not sufficient to salvation for yet notwithstanding the purchase and coming of Christ the Gentiles have their understandings darkned Eph. 4. And though it should be granted that this common light doth convince men of sin yet it doth not convince men of righteousness and judgment and therefore it is sufficient to leave men inexcusable but it is not sufficient to lead them to salvation Further Though it should be granted that this light might be called the Spirit of Christ if it be the effect thereof yet it is still denied that this operation of the spirit which is common to all is sufficient to salvation not but that the same spirit is sufficient but yet this operation of the spirit to convince of sin is not sufficient 3. Lastly Others do interpret this enlightning in the text to be the means of enlightning namely the Gospel-dispensation which the coming of Christ brought more eminently and universally into the world he being the first preacher of the Gospel in this sense Heb. 2. 3. Here I pitch for thus there is a light set upon an hill shining forth and offering it self to enlighten every man that comes

into the world and the onely means of enlightening all that are enlightned to salvation in the world Paralell with that known place The grace which hath appeared unto all men teaching them not that all are effectually taught thereby yet it is still teaching them as a means i. e. offering to teach them the way to salvation whereby Christ indeed hath made a way and fixed a means which is sufficient as a means to enlighten every man that cometh into the world and thus he may be said to enlighten every man that cometh into the world Now the text taken in this sense 't is evident that all are not effectually enlightened hereby all do not embrace and possesse this light all do not receive it and see in it or yeeld themselves to be savingly enlightened by it the very text tells us that the light shined in darkness and the darkness comprehended it not to some the Gospel is hid and Christ is not in reprobates Joh. 1. 2 Cor. 4. 2 Cor. 13. Thus take the text in which sense you will yet we must conclude that that light which is in every man is not a saving light or sufficient to salvation Qua. Mark people He saith the Spirit doth not convince of righteousness and judgment Full. Pray speak the truth I said if you take the text in the second sense which I do not yet the Spirit doth not convince all of righteousness whom it doth convince of sin or the same Spirit may be said to convince some of sin onely and others both of sin righteousness and judgment Qua. Then people he would perswade us that the same Spirit doth not convince of sin righteousness and judgment Full. Cannot you speak two words true I say the same operation of the Spirit doth not convince of sin and righteousness and judgment so that he doth sometimes convince of sin onely and sometimes of sin righteousness and judgment Qua. Turn to the Text I will send the Comforter and he shall convince the world of sin and righteousness and judgment Again Even the Spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive ye know him and he dwelleth with you c. Full. From these two Texts brought by your self for the contrary I shall undertake to prove above all contradiction that the Spirit in this saving sense is not in every man yea that the Spirit as a Comforter reprover of sin righteousness and judgment and as a Spirit of truth is not in every man which one would think should put an utter end unto this part of the controversie This Text Joh. 14. 16 17. saith expresly that the Comforter the Spirit of truth which is promised to be with and dwell in the Disciples the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him Qua. Canst thou prove that ever any one had so much light as to convince him of sinne and yet that light was not saving Full. Yes that I can Judas was convinced of his great wickedness in betraying of Christ yet Judas had not saving light Qua. But is not that light which convinceth of sin if improved sufficient to salvation Full. Prove that Qua. Nay do thou prove it is not Full. I will There is no meanes sufficient to salvation but what Scripture asserts to be so But now we do not find in Scripture that the light sufficient to convince of sin if improved by us is sufficient to salvation if we do shew it Some of the company did not like the Argument but neither they nor the Quaker himself said any thing at all in answer thereunto Quak. But now answer thou my question Is that a lawfull Ministry that takes Hire for preaching Full. He may be a lawfull Minister which takes Hire prove the contrary if you can Qua. The false Prophets prophesie for reward and preach for Hire Full. Pray observe is there no difference betwixt taking Hire and preaching meerly for Hire or Hires sake The true Priests in the time of the Law had the Hire of Tithes appointed by God himself were they therefore false Prophets Qua. Doest thou take Hire or no Full. If I do I have Scripture for it the Labourer is worthy of his Hire However you are to prove that I preach for Hire or meerly for the sake of Hire Qua. See he hath acknowledged himself to be a Hireling and that he preacheth for Hire therefore he is a false Prophet c. Full. Did you come from God with these slanders I say I am no Hireling I say I do not preach for Hire though I have a maintenance in liew of preaching Good people you see I am enforced unto it pray give me leave to magnifie my Office a little and I shall easily prove that I am no Hireling A Hireling is one that works meerly for his wages and doth no more work than he is hired to do What say you is he not Qua. Yea. Full. Then I shall prove I am no Hireling Qua. Doest thou do more work then thou art hired to do Full. Yes I do Besides my preaching twice every Lords day which is all I am bound by man unto I Catechize I expound upon some part of Scripture I desire particular conference with my people for their instruction in order to the Sacrament I visit the sick I preach my turn at some Lectures And lastly I have begun to go and teach from house to house which I intend through the Lords assistance to go through withall And all this is more than I have Maintenance from man for Yea you are all my witnesses this day that I am here Hun●ing the Wolfe is not flying from him as the Hireling doth Joh. 50. doing more then I am bound to do or can expect any reward from man for Ye all know I might now have been quiet in my study at home and that I could likely expect nothing here but what you see I here find trouble rayling and reviling for this labour of my love to the souls of my poor people that if possible I might save them out of the hands of such deceivers and seducers Qua. Then thou acknowledgest thou preachest twice a day for Hire Behold people then he is so far an Hireling onely he hath said all this that you might think you are beholding to him Full. I am yet no Hireling prove if you can that I preach twice a day meerly for my maintenance though I am indeed thereby oblged thereunto I preach for the glory of God and my peoples salvation You cannot say I preach for Hire unless you could see my heart without uncharitableness and bearing false witness against me Besides I seriously profess in the presence of God and before you all that as I do more work than man can require so had I no reward from man at all yet I would preach I hope so long as I have a tongue to speak Quak. O people pray try him see whether he will preach for nothing my advice to you all

and are the Scriptures lies Mr Tripe But what they sing agreeth onely to Gods people and not to wicked men Full. 'T is their duty to sing and not their sin 't is their sin onely that by their wickedness they are not fit to sing They are not we grant such as their duty requires but can any be so weak to think that they are disobliged from their duty by their unfitness for it We require them to do their duty they shall answer it if they either neglect it or do it amiss This was the substance of the debate There were a few words passed about thee and thou which Mr Fullwood said might be proved from Scripture to be sinfull language because the Scripture determines the controversie about indifferent 1 Cor. 11. 16. things with an Argument from Custome If any be contentious we have no such custome nor the Churches of God Qua. See he pleads for old Customes Full. Sir What I say I bring Scripture for answer to Scripture Qua. But are these words indifferent Is Scripture-language indifferent Full. This is but the translation and it was indifferent for the translators to have translated it you or thou the original will suffer either Another But do not we say thee to God Full. Yes Pray let me take occasion to mind you when these expressions of thee and thou have their use in Custome namely in two cases 1. In a way of great familiarness as to our very intimates or those much below us 2. In a way of great reverence and distance as to God and to a Prince c. But in neither of these senses do you use them Qua. He dreams Full. You answer nothing There was no more offer'd to be said but one went one way and another another And Mr Fullwood having been sent for divers times he went to the door and there desiring the people in a few words to take heed of such seducers he went away many following him A Brief and Plain Answer TO JAMES GODFRIE'S QUERIES ENTITLED Some Queries to be answered by thee George Pitt who professest thy self to be a Minister of Christ but art found in the steps of the Pharisees and hast not the Spirit of Christ therefore the spirit of error With some Counter-Queries to be answered by James Godfrey thence arising By F. F. UPon the Title of these Queries I demand How did this James Godfrey know that Mr Pitt would not answer the following Queries according to his own mind And whether supposing Mr Pitt should return such an answer as James Godfrey would have him he be yet possessed with a Spirit of error Or whether he that erred in rash Judgment did so err by the Spirit of Truth The Quakers first Query Thou that saist Jesus Christ hath not enlightn'd every man which cometh into the world what are those that have not heard and can any hear except they be enlightned and is the Apostle or thee to be beleeved who said they have all heard answer in plain words The plain Answer I know none that speak what I suppose Mr Pitt is slandered with so directly against the Scripture as to say that Christ hath not enlightned every man that cometh into the world and whether all have heard or not or who those are that have not heard as the Apostle doth not so neither this James Godfrey nor any other man can tell however let him beleeve the Apostle before us in what we say contrary to the Apostle Yet he himself implies what we know certainly also that England hath heard and therefore hath had Preachers lawfully sent before such as he is came to teach her for how shall they hear without a Preacher and how shall they preach Rom. 10. except they be sent Counter-Queries to this first Querie 1. Which way doth Christ enlighten every man 2. Whether is hearing the means of enlightning or enlightning the cause of hearing and which is first 3. Whether Christ doth not enlighten any but those that come into the world and what shall we think of those that die in the womb 4. Whether men are enlightned as soon as they come into the world or when 5. Whether those that cannot hear be enlightned or not what shall we think of deaf persons if they be enlightned are not more enlightn'd then do hear if they be not elightned how is every man enlightned 6. Whether Christ may be said to be in all because he enlightens all 7. Whether all that are alive came within the Apostle Peters question Have they not heard 8. Where doth the Apostle say that all have heard answer thou in plain words 9. If all that have heard are enlightned whether our people had not heard before you came amongst us if not then how had all heard and if then whether they were not enlightned before you came and if so what need had they of you The Quakers second Querie Whether the light that shines in the heart doth not give the light of the knowledg of Christ which enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world The plain Answer The light of Christ as the Cause shines in the heart and gives the light of the knowledg of Christ as the effect to every one that is enlightned therewith and this light of the knowledg of Christ by the light of the glorious Gospel in our despised Ministery hath shone into the hearts of many of our people before ever you came amongst them to eclipse and darken it The Counter-Queries arising hence 1. Whether the light that is in the heart of every man shine in the heart of every man and whether the understandings of those can be darkened in whose heart the light shines 2. If so Then how can it be said of any that there is no light in them or that they sit in darkness or whether is Esa 8. there any darkness at all in the world or if there be whether it be there where the light shines in the hearts of men or not or whether their darkness doth not comprehend the light in whose hearts the light shines 3. Whether light that shineth in the heart of every man doth give the light of the knowledg of Christ to every man effectually and whether every man that is in the world hath the knowledg of Christ 4. Whether the light which shineth in the heart of every man is sufficient to give the light of the knowledg of Christ without the Scriptures if so then what is the reason that those that hear not of the Scriptures do not know Christ 5. Whether the Scriptures be not they that is only they that testifie of Christ The Quakers 3d Querie Is there any know the Truth but they that know this Christ manifest in them The plain Answer Some do know the truth that do not know Christ manifest in them For 1. Some do know the truth that have not Christ in them and therefore that do not know Christ to be in them much less