in the Sinagogues before Sermon and after and whether the Apostles did so In thy Answer to this querie thou bringest the Apostles words which said pray allwaies to justifie standing praying in the Sinagogues and having the cheifest place in the Assemblies which Christ cried woe against and here I charge thee to be a false Prophet who puts no difference betwixt the Apostle and the Pharesies though he said the temple which Solomon built him it was a housâ— of Prayer Christ said there should not be one stone of it left upon another when Christ Jesus was witnessed Stephen for witnessing him was stoned to death and here thou hast shewed thou hast no judgment and errs not knowing the Scripture and as for Christs whipping them out of the temple read thy selfe to the light in thy conscience I speake and so all thy praying before thy Sermon and after as thou callest it in the Sinagogues in the chiefest place of the Assemblies the woe which Christ pronounced against thy Fathers hath light upon the Son thou who art found in the same place let Math. 23. judge thee the life which gave forth these words the life of these words is upon thee and so all thy praiers are abomination to the Lord God in the state thou art in and the praying of the Saints which was moved by the Spirits thou hast cleared thy selfe from for thou deniest immediate revelation from heaven and how canst thou pray and not with the Spirit and here let all people judge and see what thy praiers are if thou be not in the stâ—te of the Pharisees who deny immediate revelation and to be one that is blind and the praying with the Spirit is wittnessed among the Saintâ— Que. 8. Shew me by the Scripture when the Apostles went into the world and gave the people of the world Davids Psalmes to be sung in meeter the things that you practise answer them by the Scriptures or the Apostles practise without consequence or imagination And in thy answer to this querie thou perverts the Scripture as in the Acts as Paul and Silas sung Psalmes in the prison with them of the world they did not go into the world to give them a Psalme to sing men that were not come to repentance for saith David the dead cannot praise God and there I charge thee to be a lier and puts no difference betwixt the Saints singing with grace and understanding and the world which hath gotten the forme where thou art the Apostle did not speake to such as were in thy condition to be filled with the Spirit which is not come to repentance but he spoke to them which were turned from the world and such sung praises to God but for such as thee to go and give to the world Davids Psalms in a meeter and say O Lord I am not puft in mind I have no scornfull eye O you profane ones and scornfull ones how can you sing thâ—s but lie who have scornefull â—yes and to sing all your bones quake and you tremble and you water your bed with your teares and you lie roaring all the night and day when as you scorne Quakers and hate them and speake all manner of evill of them how can you speake this but lie But Davids condition and the Saints is witnessed among them which the world scornfully calls Quâ—kers which power makes all to tremble though you scorne it a while and have gotten the outside the letter Davids condition in a forme of words scorning his life and the power of God where it is made manifest take warning all you scoffâ—rs and scorners what came to be the end of all your Fathers that passed before you but destruction your lofty ones feare and tremble before the mighty God for all your songs must be turned into howling but singing with the Spirit we owne the grace which hath appeared to all men teaches us to deny ungodlinesse and worldly lusts and here I charge thee again to be bâ—ind who puts no diffeâ—ence betwixt the worlds singing and the Saints Que. 9. Whether a man shall overcome the body of sin while he is upon the earth yea or no Pr. And in thy answer to this 9. querie thou saiest it is not possible to subdue the body of sin altogether whilest we are in this world and thy comparison is a tree while there is life in it will bring forth fruit Rep. Here I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be the corrupt tree for by thy fruit thou art knowne for a good tree cannot bring forth evill fruit and here thou art proved to be that corrupt tree which confesses you doe not attaine to the same knowledge and understanding the Apostles did as thou speakest in thy booke whose harvest is ripe and now is reaping downe Pr. And whereas thou saiest they shall not overcome the body of sin whilest in this world Rep. And here I charge thee againe for say the Saints as he is so are we in this present world and thou saiest nor there is the lying Spirit and the Apostle said they had put off the body of sin and thou saiest it is not possible and there thy Spirit is found contrary to the Scripture and the Apostle saith in the 6. Rom. they were made free from sinne and thou saiest not it cannot be possible and here thy Spirit is tried Let all the children of the light judge thee and that thou speakest to be contrary to the Apostles words in the Romans and all you that cannot wittnesse these things that the body of sin is not put off wait upon God thorow Christ for it Que. 10. Whether the curse be not upon him that preacheth another Gospell then Christ and the Apostles preached yea or no Pr. And in thy answer to this querie thou speakest of receiving the Gospell from Christ and the Apostles Rep. In this I charge thee to be a lier as I said to thee before who denies immediate revelation from Heaven how canst thou be a preacher of the Gospell and deny revelation what a grosse darkenesse people are in that believe thee for under the curse and woe thou art that the Scripture speakes of and he that hath received the end of his prophesie is made free from the curse but this is without thy understanding and knowledge thou confessest in thy answer to the fiâ—st querie you preach the same Gospell but doe not attaine the same knowledge and understanding Let all people see who are in the light if it be not the same knowledge and understanding it is not the same Gospell but another and there the curse is upon thee Quâ— 11. Whether any natural man can preach the Gospell yes or no Pr. In thy answer to this 11. querie thou speakest of understanding and of studying and of the Gospel and of a natural man and saiest he cannot preach the Gospell and thou saiest your understanding and knowledge is not the same as the Apostles was Râ—p Here
A REPLY To a Book set forth By one of the blind Guides of England who is a Priest at Barwick Hall in LANCASHIRE Who writes his name R. Sherlock Batcheler of Divinity but he is proved to be a Diviner and deceiver of the People Which Book is in answer to some Queres set forth to him by them whom he calls QUAKERS And herein are Replies given to his Answers by those whom the world reproachfully calls QUAKERS But we do dwell in the power of the living God which makes all the earth to quake and tremble at his presence who is terrible to the wicked and is laying open and discovering the deceipts of all blind Guides Hirelings and deceivers and is making his power manifest and his name known in his people whom the world calls QUAKERS Dreadfull powerfull God! Praises to thee for ever Amen Thy Servant Richard Hubberthorne O England thy Prophets have seâ—en vain and foolish things for thee and they have not discovered thine iniquity to turn away thy captivity but have seen for thee false burthens and causes of banishment Lam. 2.14 And because thou hast hearkened unto them and not unto me saith the Lord therefore woe and misery is coming upon thee and thy Prophets LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert 1654. REader This is the word of the Lord to thee take heed unto the light Christ hath inlightened thee wiâ—hall to guide thy mind into the fear of God to the light of Christ in thy conscience I speak which if thou hearken unto it it will lead thee out of pride and lusâ— and envie and will bring condemnation upon that nature thou hast lived and acted in that is out of the feare of God and hearkning â—o this light in thy conscience it will diâ—ect thy mind to God and draw thy minâ— and affections out of earthly things and the pollutions of the world by which thou art defiled thy mind and conscience is defiled by lust and uncleannesse lusting after earthly things and the flesh is defiled by that mind that wallowes in the earth Now minding this light in thy conscience Christ hath inlightened thee withall thy understanding will come to be inlightened to see the deceipts and the blind guides which have led thee from this light in thy conscience which should exercise it and lead thee to go to fear him and to be taught of him and will lead thee from the teachings of man which keeps thee in thy sins and draw thee from this light in thy conscience which convinceth thee of sin and lets thee see sin and evill and all ungodlinesse and will bring thee to deny it and lead thee to repentance and so thou wilt come to know Jesus Christ which gives repeâ—tance and remission of sins and then thou wilt deny Priest Sherlock and all that generation of Priests who saith in the 32. page of his book that Christ was a person â—ot capable of faith and repentance And here I do charge him in the presence of the living God to be a lyer for he is the author and finisher of faith and be preached repentance and gives repentance to his people And he denies the knowledg and understanding the Apostles had and yet saith he preaches the same Gospel pag. 10. and saith that externall Tongues Arts and Sciences gives them to understand the meaning of the Gospel pag. 11. and saith that the spirit causeth fleshly fruits pag. 22. and saith that to understand the doctrine of God they must use the light of distinctions pag. 54. and saith that Religion is the art of arts pag. 86. and saith that prayer in all the parts and species thereof is a means to fetch down the holy spirit of God pag. 144. when as the Saints said the spirit taught them to pray and that they prayed with the spirit and with understanding Now to the light in your consciences I speak which will let you see these lying Priests and blind guides which have deceived you so long and kept you blind and ignorant So all people cease from them and wait upon the Lord for teaching A lover of the truth and a witnesse against the deceit and deceivers and a lover of the souls of all people and that righteousnesse might be established was I moved to write this Richard Hubberthorne A reply to a book set forth by the Priest of Barwick who writes R. Sherlock which was an answer to some Queries set forth to him by them whom he calls Quakers who writes himself Batcheler of Divinity and a Diviner he is proved Quest 1. WHether your gospel be the same which the Apostles preached and if it be why go you to Oxford and Cambridge when the Apostle saith the gospel that he preached was not after man neither was he taught it by man Pr. Thy answer is You preach the same gospel the Apostles preached but do not attain the knewledge and understanding of this gospel by the same means Rep. Here let all people see what wooden stuffe this is How can you preach the same gospel and have not the same knowledge and understanding If it be not by the same knowledge and understanding it is not the same gospel for the spirit of understanding is but one and from this spirit of understanding thou hast cleared thy self Pr. And thou sayest You ought not to depend upon any such immediate revelation from heaven as the Apostles had Rep. Here again thou hâ—st cleared thy self from the Spirit that gave forth the scriptures who denies immediate revelation from heaven and here thou hast denyed thy self to bâ— any Minister of Jesus Christ for no man knows the Son but the Father and to whom he is revealed and thou that denyest immediate Revelation thou hast denyed the Son of God and hast shewed that thou hast not life for he that hath not the Son of God hath not life And therefore we deny such schools aâ— Oxford and Cambridge where the rudiments of the world are invented and abundance of filthy words are in the answer to this Querie which are not worth mentioning Que. 2. Whether you can give another meaning to the scriptureâ— then they are or whether the Apostles did give the meaning to them when they spoke them forth yea or nay and if they did what need learned men give a meaning to them Pr. And in thy answer thou sayest The sense and meaning of the scripture is involved in it Rep. Here thou wouldest make people believe Christ were in the letter who is the substance that gave it forth and was in them that spoke it forth for the scripture doth declare another thing of God and Christ it doth not declare God and Christ is in the letter but here it is that fools might appear to be blinde and such as thou sayest learned men must give the meaning to the scripture Pr. And thou sayest that Christ took a text and that Philip took a text Rep. O thou enemy and slanderer of Christ and the Apostle Did
the spirit of love is thy generation tried for when the servants of the Lord have been moved to come into your Synagogues some hast beene stockt and wounded and imprisoned and hailed out of your synagogues And is this the fruits of your spirit Que. Whether they be not seducers that draw people from the annointing which is in them and tell them they must be taught of a man whereas the anoynting teacheth them they need no man teach them but as the annointing teacheth them and the promise is to him that doth abide in it eternally Pr. Many false prophets are gone forth Rep. Here thou hast proved thy self to be a false prophet who denies immediate revelation for whom the Lord sent forth he spoke to them immediately which thou deniest and there thou art one of the false prophets which thou speakest of and knowes nothing of the annointing who deceives the simple and ignorant the world may wonder after such but who are in the light and receive any thing immediate will see thee in the dark to be a deceiver for none in thy generation can witness that you need no man teach you but the annointing for who doth are come out from your teaching and you both And as touching Sects them we deny as thou speakest in thy answer to the fifteenth querie therefore do we see thee with that which is no Sect to be colouring and deluding people telling them thy error is truth who quotes and misapplies the Scripture to maintain thy falshood Pr. The flesh is quickened with the spirit of life to bring forth some kind of fleshly fruits 1 King 8.46 Iohâ— 14.4 Prov. 20.9 1 Ioh. 1.8 10. Eccles. 7.22 Rep. Here I charge thee to be a lier and a blasphemer in the presence of the living God let all people read these scriptures and see if there be any such thing in them and whether thou hast not misapplied these scriptures when the spirit saith it crucifieth the deeds of the flesh and walking in the spirit the lusts of the flesh is not fulfilled and here I charge thee to be a lier and of the Devill who was a lier from the beginning and in his generation thou art Qu. 17. Whether they do not bewitch the people who withdraw them from the spirit within to observe the ordinances of the world and traditionâ— of men without as the Galatians were bewitched Gal. 3.1 Pr. I must tell you that there is not only a holy and good spirit within and that in too few but there 's also an evil and seducing spirit within and that in too many even the spirit that doth bewitch men and draw them aside from the doctrines and commands of the spirit of truth and to strive by all means to draw the people off from giving heed to seducing spirits it is not to observe the ordinances of the world and traditions of men as you pervert the text but to obey the command of Gods true spirit who foretelling of false prophets and false spirits often in the word commands exhorts and admonishes to beware of such not to give heed to such and not to believe every spirit but to trie them Rep. Here in this answer thy spirit is tried which I have given to all people to read with a single eye that all may see what confusion here is in it First thou sayest that the seducing spirit drawes from the seducing spirit and in the seducing spirit thou art and from the spirit of life with the spirit of life thou art judged to be out of the doctrine of Christ nor is not guided by the holy spirit Que. 18. Whether they be not seducers which tell people these are the ordinances of God which God never commanded as sprinkling infants telling people of a sacrament which there is no scripture for and draw them from the spirit within to follow your imaginations and inventions Pr. But for sprinkling infants I have already given you the grounds of it out of scripture Rep. Here again I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a lyar there is not such a word in the scripture to bear it out nor a word of a sacrament which there is no scripture for let all read the scripture throughout and see if they can find such a word in the scripture so let all people judge thee to be a liar and a sâ—ducer and in the devils invention which calls that an ordinance of God which is invention and imagination Pr. We are not blind-folded to follow the dictates of the spirit within Rep. Here J charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be in the flesh and to follow the flesh for who are led by the spirit of God are the sons of God and thou that dost not follow the dictates of the spirit thou dost not follow the commands of God and what hast thou to do to talk of clearing it by the scripture when there is no scripture for it and when the scripture witnesses against the works of the flesh which thy spirit stirs up Quâ— Whether you have the same spirit which was in Christ the Apostles and Prophets which gave forth the scripture seeing you act contrary to the scripâ—ures and follow your own inventions and traditionâ— and so erre from them Pr. Our ministeriall actions are agreeable to the scripture Rep. Here J charge thee to be a lyar for in thy answer to the former Quere thou sayest you do not follow the dictates of the spirit within and art holding up sprinkling infants which there is no scripture for and so walk contrary to the scripture and to them that were led by the spirit which gave them forth Que. 2â— Whether ever Christ and his Apostles did first baptize and then preach faith and repentance twenty or thirty years afterwards Pr. Christ himself waâ— not capable of faith and repentance Rep. Here J charge thee to be a lier and a slanderer for he was capable of faith and repentance and the baptisme which the Apostles baptized withall what hast thou to do with it who art holding up sprinkling infants which there is no example for in the scriptures nor in all the Apostles practises Therefore silence flesh for thou knowest nothing of the wisdome of God which the Apostle speaks of but art in the state of Simon Magus who art buying and selling the letter worse then he for he would have bought the spirit which the Apostles denied so thou art denied with the same spirit but the saints baptisme we owne and the beleevers and the promises which is to the seed thou hast cleared thy selfe from who saith Christ was not capable of faith how could he be above it and not capable of it and the life that I live is by faith of the Son of God saith the Apostle which thou hast cleared thy selfe from Que. 21. Whether ever Christ and his Apostles received 100. or 200. pounds a yeare for preaching the Gospel Pr. Many of the Apostles converts
sold their estates and brought it and laid it downe at the Apostles feet Rep. Here J challenge all the Oxford and Cambridge Teachers in England how many of their converts have sold their estates and laid it downe at your feet but you teachers and they are so earthly minded you are fit to sue them at the law and imprison them as Lancaster and Kâ—ndalâ— goals may wittnesse where many suffer now because they will not pay tithes and so you shew you preach another Gospell so let Christ and the Apostles judge you all to be without their doctrine and your convert as thou callest them to be without the Apostles and Christ let their example judge you all and so you shew that you never sowed spirituall things but only as a custome and a cloake thou bringest these words for the Apostle did reape carnal things where he sowed spirituall things Que. 22. What scripture is there to limit God to a place calling it a Church when as the Church is in God 1 Thes. 1.1 Pr. You cry down all distinctions as favouring of humane learning whereby the naked truth might be clearly and distinctly seen as it is in it self Rep. Here let all people take notice whether humane learning can open the naked truth Here thou wouldest make people beleeve that humane learning was before the naked truth and againe let all people take notice and see if the meeting in a steeple-house in England be a Church when so many hath beene moved of the Lord to come into meeting places among them and something hath been revealed to them and they have spoken and he that was the pretended teacher which was in the cheifest place in the Assemblie hath cryed out they disturb mee and then they have hailed them out to the stocks or prison and knockt them or bruized them and may be some have laine a quarter of a year in prison or more Now let all people take notice which have a love to God whether this be the Church which is the pillar and ground of truth or the â—age of uncleane birds which the Scripture speaks of when as the Scripture saith if any thing be revealed to him that stands by lâ—t the first hold his peace and the Church of God we owne but all such Churches as are fighters and which do imprison them who are moved of the Lord to come speake to them such Churches we deny And whereas thou slanderest us that we cry against the Ministers all such Ministers are to be cried against for they are contrary to the scripture Que. What scripture is there to have a Clark say Amen and to have groats apeece of the world for his trade Pr. And for the groat he receives yearly of some persons in the world J conceive it is not so much for saying Amen but he hath other offices Rep. Here thou goest about to justifie the Clarke and his groat and the custome of saying Amen which the Apostles practised no such thing neither had they any Clarke to say Amen which had a groat for his labour and let all the practise of the Apostles judg thee who saith that the Clarke hath other offices then saying Amen that is may be to ring the bell to gather carnall people together to hear such a blind guide as thou art and for laying you a cushion that you may lie soft or opening the booke or giving forth the Psalmes which all this here is no example for that the Apostles had any such thing but it is that you false prophets might utter forth your folly for to the children of light you are discovered and seen to be without the Doctrine of Christ and the Apostles and all the Scripture shall judge you and in thy answer thou dost conceive there thou hast brought thy selfe under that state which must be scattered for the Lord will scatter the proud in their vaine â—maginations and conceivings and let the Prophets words judge thee Que. 24. What Scripture is there for taking money for burying the dead or to have ten or twelve Shillings for preaching a Funerall Sermon or to take money for marrying man or woman Pr. For our paines in labouring in the word and doctrine the Apostle gives that general rule the labourer is worthy of his hire And what their wages is is not of our choosing but partly the liberality of founders and benefactors partly custome among all people in all Christian countries hath setled it Rep. Here thou usest the Apostles words which as I have shewed thee before thou art cleared from his life O thou blind guide whose mind is in the earth who art in the customes and art one of them that doth hold them up which all the Ministers of Christ are ashamed on thee and all thy generation who art without the life that gave â—orth the Scriptures who art one of them that goes in the way of Balaam who durst not take the gift though he loved it end as for the Apostles condition I charge thee and command thee to be silent and let it alone who denies immediate revelation from heaven therefore all that thou speakest is from the earth and below and the word thou knowest not which was in the beginning Joh. 1.1 when the letter was not and thâ—refore in it thou canst not learne and the Christians that are baptized into Christ are redeemed put of countries where yet thou art with thy customes and wayes of the Nation as thou dost confesse which Christ coms to redeem from and thou who receivest Balaamâ— wages art spâ—ing forth thy venome against the righteous seed where â—t is rising Que. 27. When did any that was sent of Jesus Christ to preach the Gospel sue men at the Law Pr. Many differences may arise which cannot well be decided without suit at Law Rep. In thy answer to this querie thou dost allow of going to Law which the Apostle did not as in the Corinthians and he was a Minister of Christ and here thou shewest thou art none for thou allowest that he did not and who are come to the doctrine of Christ which is yea and nay there is no difference they need no going to Law there is no contention and many differences are in thy generation which is without Christ and his doctrine which many of you professed Ministers sue men at the Law which the Apostle forbad and here openly I charge you all in the presence of the living God to be no Minister of Christ but are raced from the doctrine of Christ and the Apostles and thou writest a scripture in Acts 19.38 as concerning the rude multitude that was stirred up when truth was spoken these were they which were not brought into the truth and there thou art among such a company let all people see how Acts 19. will justifie thee for going to Law who professes thy self to be a Minister of Jesus Christ which the Ministers of Christ denied and here J charge thee again to be a perverter
perish with the blind and giddy but if he follow such as thou art he doth follow both and in the ditch both will perish together And thou speaks to him of walking in the paths of the just and righteous and such thou privily slanders and their way hateth thou who walketh in the steps of the wicked and with those that forget God and thou must be cut down with the sword of the almighty God to that in thy Conscience I speak when thou art in the terror remember me for that in thy conscience condemn thee and witness me And friend to the light in thy conscience I speak under whose name this book goes there is thy Teacher if thou love it which is the light of Christ if thou love it it will teach thee as thou goes up and down and shew thee the way of the just for it is just it will condemn thee if thou hate And when the book of conscience is opened thou shalt witnesse what I speak that its truth to thy soul Pr. And whereas thou sayst you do neither pretend to any such sublime and eminent gifts neither do you nor ought you to depend upon any such immediate revelation but do use such ordinary means and helps which God in his merciful providence hath in all ages afforded his people viz. by study and industry in the Schools of the Prophets Schools thou sayest they had at Bethel 2 King 2 3 5. and Elisha's Colledge was so full that they enlarged it 2 Kings 6 1. 1 Sam. 14.20 and upon the hill of God 2 Sam. 10.5.10 Rep. Here let all these Scriptures witnesse against thee that thou art no true Prophet nor Minister of Christ which witnessed the end of the Prophets and were all taught of God which thou denies that denieth immediate revelation from heaven And here I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a lyar and false Prophet and that thou art guided by the father of lyes Where thou tells of Elisha's Colledge and saith that it was so full that it was enlarged and brings in that place of Scripture to colour over thy lyes 2 Kings 6.1 Let that Scripture be a witnesse against thee that thou art a lyar and a perverter of the Scriptures thou full of all subtilties blush for shame thou lyar is there any mention of any Colledge there or is there any mention of the schools of the Prophets where the word of God was studied in those places of Scripture beforementioned as thou sayest let them witness thee All the Prophets where taught of God and there was no studying for what they spoke at Naioth see if they did not receive the Spirit of prophecy and spoke by immediate revelation which thou denies and knows not their maner of teaching and learning 1 Sam. 19.20 to the end of the Chap. and the prophecy came not in the old time by the will of man but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy Ghost and the Scripture is of no private interpretation 2 Pet. 1.20 21. Here art thou proved a lyar and a perverter of the Scripture wresting it to thy own destruction 2 Pet. 3.16 and the plagues and wrath is due to thee for so doing Rev. 22 Now call not truth railing thou dissembler and enemy of all righteousness the Scripture turns edge against thee and witnesses against thy deceits and filthiness whereby thou seeks to strangle the truth but thou art found out to be among the Dogs Sorcerers and Lyars spoken of in Scripture and art shut out of the kingdom of God art no Minister of Christ Rev. 22.15 18 19. Thou enemy of God how darest thou say that the Prophets studied the word when no prophecy came by the will of man but by the will of God and no man knoweth the father but the son neither knoweth any man the son but the father and he to whom he is revealed Matth 11.27 And here thou deniest both the Father and the Son and the Prophets and Apostles that denieth immediate revelation for they all bear witnesse against thee and such as thou art for the Apostle said Hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ And all the true Prophets witness that which thou denies And here I have proved thee a lyar a false Prophet and a deceiver perverting the Scriptures and they bear witness with me And thou full of all guile and deceit the word of the Lord shall rise up in judgement against thee and such as thou art Something in reply to thy discourse of the Spirit as thou calls it FRiend the Spirit of the living God thou hast not for thou denies immediate revelation from heaven who art discoursing of the Spirit and here thou art made manifest but to be in the pretence of the Spirit and knows nothing that is revealed with the spirit For thou that denies immediate revelation from heaven denies the spirit of the living God The Apostle said Eye hath not seen ear hath not heard neither hath it entred into the heart of man the things that God hath prepared for them that love him but God hath revealed them to us by his spirit 1 Cor. 2.9 10. And here thou that hast denyed immediate revelation from heaven hast denied the Spirit of God and manifested thy self to be in the natuâ—al state therefore I command thee and charge thee in the presence of the living God to be silent and to give over deceiving of the people 2. Thou that denies immediate revelation from heaven thou denies the grace that was to be brought unto the Saints whose mindes was to be girded up which grace was to be brought unto them at the revelation of Jesus Christ and this thou hast denied again as all people may see 1 Pet. 1.13 and here thou hast denyed Jesus Christ and this grace who denies immediate revelation and art in the fashion of the world and a blasphemer 3. Thou that hast denied immediate revelation from heaven hast denied the Spirit to pray with all and so all thy prayers is hypocrisie 4. Thou that hast denied immediate revellation from heaven hast denied the son of God For none knows the father but ths son and to whom the son reveals him Mat. 11.27 5. And thou that hast denied immediate and miraculous revelation from heaven hast not denied the son of God only but the father also And those that hast not the son of God hath not life Pr. The power is originally from God as the fountain but conveyed through the ministry of man as the conduit p. 90. Rep. Paul an Apostle not of man nor by man but by the will of God and here thou art proved to be a seducer and thy ministry contrary to his here thy spirit is tryed And thou slanders them who hears the voyce of God and art scorning them and in a deriding way calls it a deceitful eccho but we know