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A43227 A plain account of certain Christian experiences, labours, services and sufferings, of that ancient servant and minister of Christ, Roger Hebden, deceased containing both warning, consolation, and instruction in righteousness. Hebden, Roger, 1620 or 21-1695. 1700 (1700) Wing H1346A; ESTC R15158 54,976 136

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Knowledge of Christ Jesus his Lord and he did account them but Dung that he might win Christ Phil. 3.7 8. which Excellency even the Knowledge of Christ he received not from Man but by the Grace of God appearing unto him which revealed the same within him Gal. 15.16 And thi● same Grace which appeared unto him was and is the Saints Teacher and whoso are obedient unto it it teaches them to deny Ungodliness and Worldly Lusts Pilate who crucified Christ writ over his Head in Hebrew Greek and Latine The King of the Jews John 19.19 20. And these Tongues many may understand who know nothing of the things of God neither can they receive them for they are spiritually discerned 1 Cor. 2.14 But these Tongues are Natural and a natural Man may have them and they do not tech any to depart from Wickedness but the Grace of God being obeyed doth which is witnessed as in Scripture is declared Titus 2.11 12. The Grace of God that bringeth Salvation hath appeared to all Men teaching us that denying Ungodliness and worldly Lusts we should live Soberly Righteously and Godlily in this present World This their Teacher was the Grace of God which is near every one within them and the Church of God now witnessing the Teachings thereof come to the Promise even the Word which is within in the Mouth and in the Heart the same which the Lord did give to the Children of Israel Deut. 30.11 12 13 14. For this Commandment which I command thee this day it is not hidden from thee neither is it far off it is not in Heaven that thou shouldest say Who shall go up for us to Heaven and bring it unto us that we may hear it and do it Neither is it beyond the Sea that thou shouldest say Who shall go over the Sea for us and bring it unto us that we may hear it and do it But the Word is very nigh unto thee in thy Mouth and in thine Heart that thou mayst do it Which doth agree and is one with that Rom. 10.5 6 7 8. where the Apostle speaking of Christ being the end of the Law for Righteousness to every one that believeth For Moses describeth the Righeousness which is of the Law that the Man that doth these things shall live by them But the Righteousness which is of Faith speaketh on this wise Say not in thine Heart Who shall ascend into Heaven that is to bring Christ down from above Or Who shall descend into the deep that is to bring Christ up again from the Dead But what saith it The Word is nigh thee in thy Mouth and in thy Heart That is the Word of Faith which we Preach And in Heb. 4.12 13. The Word of God is quick and powerful and Sharper than any two-edged Sword piercing even to the dividing asunder of Soul and Spirit and of the Joynts and Marrow and it is a Discerner of the Thoughts and Intents of the Heart Neigther is there any Creature that is not manifest in his Sight but all things are naked and open before Him with whom we have to do Thus the Scripture testifies of the Word of God it is quick and hath Power in it That within which lies underneath in all whilst they are in the Fall this is that which with a still low Voice as if it were behind one Isa 30.20 21. when they turn out of the Commands of God to act Wickedness tells them in secret that such a thing they ought not to do and this rises up in them when they do Evil as when they tell a Lye or when they think evil Thoughts Hate or Back-bite and tells them they ought not so to do Yea I do appeal to any who have but any Knowledge of their Conditions whether they have not found something within them time after time check them for Evil Deeds and that hath plainly shewn them that they ought not to have done so as they did when as they did Swear Lie were Drunk or have been wrathful or envious against others when such deeds have been done by them then they have cryed for Mercy and said They had done wrong Now something there was within them that let them see plainly That they ought not to have done so although they did not know what it was here Light shined in Darkness but the Darkness comprehended it not And so it was with me many times for there was that in me which did check me secretly when I did tell a Lie for my Profit and Pleasure but I did not know what that was yea many a time after I had done such a thing as to tell a Lie I should have been troubled in my self for it And there was something in me that would have brought it to remembrance again a good while after as fresh as though it had been then spoken yea things which I did in secret which none knew of without to tell of them such things were raised up again into the remembrance even my secret Thoughts and evil Intents could not be kept but these things would have been brought to remembrance that such a thing thou didst at such a time in such a place and such Thoughts thou didst think which were evil All things that ever I did were laid open by the Righteous Law of God within me yea the Judgments and Wrath of God were shouwn me by the same to be my Portion And I did not know any way how to get free from the same And although it were many times shown me that such a thing I had done and thereupon the Wrath of God was shown likewise to be the Portion thereof yet notwithstanding I did still run into the same although I was condemned in my self for it not knowing what it was which did condemn me so this was in a time of ignorance as to the knowing what it was yet there was that in me which cleared the Lord when he did arise to Judgment in me And if he had Eternally Condemned me my Condemnation had been just for my disobeying of what I knew So that I know that the Lord will be Justified when he arises to Judgment and all Mouths shall be stopped for my Condemnation was not in the Day of Account for what I did not know but that such things were made known unto me to be my Duty to have done and I did them not neither shall any be Condemned for what they know not but for what they know and do not obey This is the Condemnation that Light is come yet Men love Darkness rather than Light John 3.19 This was true I witness And as the Word of God is thus Quick and Powerful and searches the Heart the Secrets thereof rips up lays open and brings to remembrance things done in the dark and so lets every one see the just Judgments of God to be their Portion for acting contrary thereto So the same which thus Checks and Reproves for Sin the same being hearkened unto and
Seeds is placed by the Lord so the Victory is obtained by joyning with That of Him where his Power will be witnessed according to his Promise But in vain it is for any ever to expect the Victory who will not enter into the Warfare so as to have the Serpent's Head broken who will not joyn with the other Seed against it so as to have Sin to dye who will not deny themselves of their Sins but give liberty to their Lusts for there can be no dying of Sin until there be a dying of that which brings it forth For as the Scripture declares God made Man upright but they have sought out many inventions Eccles 7.29 But he was not so created in the many Inventions but in the Image of God Gen. 1.26 The Evil was of Man's finding out for the Lord commands Such a thing thou shalt not do Gen. 2.16 17. Now although the Command was Thou shalt not eat Man through Temptation aspiring thinking to be High fell Low acts contrary to the Command and so broke it The Transgression of the Law is Sin 1 John 3.4 And as Sin came at the first by breaking the Command of God so whilst there is a running on to be guided by that which at the first brought Sin there can be no dying of Sin but adding Sin to Sin and filling up the Measure of Iniquity But as there is a hearkening and giving up in obedience unto that Divine Light within which checks and reproves for Sin then the other part which leads forth the Creature unto the acting of Sin comes to be denied and so Sin will dye Obj. But if any shall say Is there this Light in every one Ans The Scriptures declare of Christ I am the Light of the World John 8.12 And John the Fore-runner of Him saith That he was not that Light but was sent to bear witness of that Light that was the true Light which lighteth every Man that comes into the World John 1.8.9 And Christ who was the true Light compares the Kingdom of Heaven unto a Man travelling into a far Country who called his Servants and delivered unto them his Goods unto every Man according unto his several ability Mat. 25.14 15. And the Apostle Paul saith The Grace of God which bringeth Salvation hath appeared unto all Men Tit. 2.11 Who can this deny but that there hath that appeared unto them which if hearkened unto and obeyed would have redeemed them from the Evil of their Ways they coming into the Obedience So this Light wherewithal Christ Jesus hath enlightned every one that comes into the World doth shine in the dark Understanding of the Creature Mankind although the Darkness does not comprehend it as John 1.5 Light shines in Darkness and the Darkness comprehends it not Yet notwithstanding as John 3.19 This is the Condemnation that Light is come into the World and Men love Darkness rather than Light because their Deeds are evil All which I witness according to these Scriptures That there was a Light a Measure of that which was pure of God in me which appeared unto me which did convince of Sin and Evil Deeds time after time this did shine into my Understanding although the Darkness was such in me that this Light could not be known by it Yet it was there and this Light was my Condemnation in secret when contrary thereunto I acted That which in the first place did convince of Sin and Evil Deeds did afterwards rise up in me and condemn me And this all must witness all that will not be obedient thereunto must be slain by him yea all his Enemies that will not have him to Reign over them Luke 19.27 Therefore in vain it is for any to expect him to be their Saviour in their Sins for he was not given by God for that end but to Save his People from their Sins Mat. 1.21 But if any shall say Is this possible ever for any to be saved from their Sins whilst they are here And may say If any say We have no Sin we deceive our Selves 1 John 1.8 I Answer doth not the same Apostle say 1 John 3.9 Whosoever is Born of God doth not commit Sin for his Seed remaineth in him and he cannot Sin because he is Born of God Here is mention of a Seed remaining in him which cannot Sin because he is Born of God Now this doth the Scriptures reconcile which seem to be at odds to know the two Seeds in Mankind what Seed that is that doth Sin and what Seed that is that doth not Sin neither can Sin for this know and this you may likewise feel within As there is one Seed that calls upon and leads forth the Creature for to act Wickedness so there is another that could never consent thereunto but was burthened by Transgression yet did reprove in secret and if it had been hearkened unto and obeyed then it would have been exalted in Men and set above the other and so have ruled in the Creature and the Creature being therewith guided would be kept from Sin for he that doth Righteousness is Righteous even as Christ is Righteous and the other which committeth Sin is of the Devil 1 John 3.7 9. And for this purpose was the Son of God manifested that he might destroy the Works ef the Devil and to take away Sin as in the 5th verse which is seen and witnessed to be the end and purpose of God sending his Son but first he must be known to be Judge to condemn Sin in the Flesh as the Apostle declares Rom. 8.3 For what the Law could not do in that it was weak thorow the Flesh God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful Flesh and for Sin condemned Sin in the Flesh And this is by Christ's Appearance who said Mat. 10.34 Think not that I come to send Peace on Earth I come not to send Peace but a Sword And he says John 9.39 For Judgment am I come into the World He comes first to break their Peace who have been at quiet and asleep in their Wickedness before he speak Peace unto them and so every one must know him as in Isaiah 33.22 The Lord is our Judge the Lord is our Law-giver the Lord is our King and he will Save us And whoso doth not know him thus knows him not savingly at all Therefore all you who do not know God any otherways but by hearsay and are only looking upon things without your Ignorance I pity and in love to your Souls as I am moved of the Lord I have written this unto you for to inform your Understandings where you are to wait to hear the Voice of God and the same obeying your Souls may live Therefore every one in particular turn your Ear the Ear of your Soul within hearken do not you hear something within you calling upon you to cease from the Evil of your ways and to do the Good Which being hearkened unto then you will find
shall come to sit Judge in thee thou shalt then be made to confess that these thy words are vain Boasting and that his Merits and Mercies thou art ignorant of nor never canst know until thou return to be guided by that which checks thee in secret for the Evil of thy Doings and whatsoever thou dost not therewith being guided it is Self-Righteousness and of the Devil and so art guided by the Fancies of thy own vain Mind For that Mind is vain that leads the Creature into Vanities Now consider if it be not so with thee that such things as thou didst see a Vanity in thou art returned back to do those things again Therefore let Shame stop thy Mouth for accusing others of what thou art guilty of thy self And for the Rash Judgment thou speakest of casting upon our fellow Creatures which are the Workmanship of God's Hands as well as we who lives in the height of Conceits above all the People in the World Hence I do declare thee from whence this is to be a false Accuser for the Judgment is not past upon the Creature as it is the Workmanship of God's Hands but chiefly upon the wicked One in the Creature and only upon the Creature as subject to him which is the Enemy of God And saying We live in Conceits That is thy own Condition as will be made manifest and thou may'st as well condemn them who said That they knew that they were of God and that the whole World lay in Wickedness And no other Light do we speak of to be guided by but that Light wherewith Christ Jesus hath enlightned every one that cometh into the World which Light thou say'st is the Conceits of our own Minds And here I charge thee in the Presence of the Living God to be an Evil Speaker of that Light which comes from his dear Son saying It is the Conceits of our own Minds So I charge thee to make it appear that thou didst hear any of us ever speak of any Light to be guided by but the Light of Jesus Christ in the Conscience and if thou canst not then let Fear take hold upon thee and Shame smite thee in thy Face to say That Light is the Conceit of our own Minds that carries us on in the Work But the Grace of God and his Mercies thou sayest are above all our rash Judgment and Conceit I answer The Grace of God and his Mercies thou hast turned into Lasciviousness and out of a vain light Mind thou speakest of Blessing and Praising his most Holy Name and says in thy Conceits That he will sit as Judge him self to confound the Conceits and rash Judgments and Imaginations of high Aspiring Spirits of boasting Men of which Spirit and Mind Quakers are of thou sayest and so in Scorn writest Adieu Quakers How couldst thou get this written and not be condemed in thy Conscience that it was in Scorn Nay consider let the Search pass through and a Wirness shall speak in thee for me That these words were in Scorn written And although thou sayest God himself will sit Judge to confound the Conceits and rash Judgments and Imaginations of high Aspiring Spirits of boasting Men of which Spirit and Mind Quakers are of here consider what thou hast said That God should sit but thou art Exalted as if got into his Seat to judge not with his Spirit but with Scornful Mind speaks of that Condition which his People Witnessed and he Commanded And here thou shews to all that have any Understanding or Eyes to see That thou hast no Bridle to thy Tongue and so thy Religion is in vain Then thou asks out of a vain Mind What Rule we have in Scripture for our high Conceits of our selves Here Ishmael makes himself manifest in thee And further says If we imitate our formed Weekly Meetings from the Apostles and Disciples we Err for they lived in the Truth and we live in the Conceits of Mind I answer meer Imitation without the Spirit we deny But this is known that who are guided by the same Spirit that the Apostles were it will bring them to follow their good Example And did they not meet Weekly Deny it if thou canst And whereas thou sayedst They lived in the Truth and we in the Conceits of Mind Here again I charge thee that so speaks to be a false Accuser And thou sayest God is Judge of the whole World Himself Whereas he Judgeth by his Son and Saints For do not the Scriptures say That the Father Judgeth no Man but hath committed all Judgment to the Son John 5.22 and in the 27th verse And hath given him authority to execute Judgment also because he is the Son of Man And in the Epistle of Jude 14 and 15 verses Behold the Lord cometh with Ten Thousands of his Saints to execute Judgment upon all c. But thou shewest thy self to be an Opposer of Christ and it is true and nor rash Judgment to say so of thee who art found in the Enmity And it is not for us to work before the Eternal Creator of Heaven and Earth doth work in us but his Acting in the Creature is a Mystery to thy carnal Mind and thou art not Judged before the time and this Judgment wherewith the wicked One in thee and others is judged shall not Condemn us for That of God in your Consciences shall witness it to be true and Condemn all for you who live in the Filth of the Flesh and Conformity to the World Acting contrary to what you are Convinced of for Self-Ends and Fear of Man And further thou proceed'st and say The turning of the Mind what way we will that we call the Word of the Lord Thou false Accuser and evil Speaker of the things thou dost not understand how long wilt thou suffer the envious One to rule in thee and to speak Evil of that thou understandest nor If thou knowest the Word of the Lord which is as a Fire shut up in the Bones Jer. 20.9 and how it comes thou wilt know that it is not in our power to turn it what way we will Therefore make out what thou sayest otherwise thy Mouth being stopped own thy Condemnation upon thy false Accusation Thou sayest The Word came by Revelation but how it comes thou knowest not neither canst thou say in the Presence of the Lord and not Lie That the Lord ever spoke one Word unto thee for to declare abroad and yet wilt be Judging of others Then thou further proceeds for to bid John Brown Let high Aspiring Thoughts and Conceits depart and let Brotherly Love be placed in his Heart and Tenderness and Pity possess his Soul This I know that Tenderness and Pity doth possess his Soul and in his Heart he doth love them that are Brethren in Christ Jesus But to the Deceit that rules in thee and others which would have fair and pleasant Words those who are guided by the Spirit of Christ cannot speak Peace