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A87593 Hosannah to the Son of David: or A testimony to the Lord's Christ. Offering it self, indifferently, to all persons; though more especially intended for the people, who pass under the name of Quakers. Wherein not so much the detecting of their persons, as the reclaiming the tender-hearted among them from the error of their way, is modestly endevoured, by a sober and moderate discourse, touching the Light and law in every man; referring to what is held forth by them in their several books and papers, herein examined and discussed. By a lover of truth and peace Jackson, John, fl. 1651-1657. 1657 (1657) Wing J78; Thomason E927_5; ESTC R202615 156,564 177

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the Apostle makes James 1.23 24 25. alluding to the naturall man beholding his naturall face in a glasse retaines the figure if he abide but if he goes away he forgets what manner of man he was So is he which looketh into the perfect law of liberty and continueth c. This precious Glasse of the Law discovers and reprooves by reflexion as the light shines upon it and the eye is exercised in beholding its face in it The eye can never see its owne face but by this way of reflection upon the perfect law As therefore in Math. 26.27 the wine is put for the Cup when it was said Drinke yee all of this which could not be spoken of the Cup but of the wine in the Cup. So the lamp and the light are convertible terms and put one for another Psal 119.105 How sweete are thy words unto my tast thy word is a lamp or candle to my feete and a light to my path it shews light it gives discovery to him that lookes into it according to that in Psal 19.8 The Commandement of the Lord is pure enlightning the eyes The eye is advantaged to the knowledge of that by reflexion of the purity and transparency of the Law without which it could never make discovery viz. of the regularity or irregularity of its owne actings it is therefore well called a light though but a lanthorn wherein the light burns or the Glasse wherein the eye reflects upon its owne likenesse and sees its owne spots and becomes self-smitten and ashamed being convicted in himselfe as they John 8.9 who being over-argued or convicted in their owne Conscience went out one by one If what hath been spoken will not convince but that the light and the law is one It is in the next place to be Considered Quest Whether this light spoken of as being in every man be it the light or be it the Law or be it both or be they both but one I say whether this light or Law in every man doth convince every or any man of all ungodlinesse and worldly lusts Answ It is said so to doe but no Scripture brought for proof thereof except those words ungodlinesse and worldly lusts may be understood to be the Scripture intended for proofe thereof it will therefore be necessary to consider that Scripture where those expressions are used and to examine what testimony they give to this matter in hand The Scripture hinted at seemes to be that in Titus 2.11 12. For the grace of God which bringeth Salvation hath appeared to all men Teaching us that denying ungodlynsse and worldly lusts we should live soberly righteously and Godly in this present world If this be the Scripture intended for the proofe of the point in hand It is evident that it makes no mention at all of the light in every man nor speakes a word thereof nor may any such thing be gathered from it but by a meaning and inference the truth whereof will be lyable to much doubt and question besides the censure it incurrs from the Author himselfe see Common-Salvation before mentioned Object It is said the grace of God which bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men and that is the light which Christ Jesus hath enlightnned every one withall which is in man but not of man Answ Where is it said that the grace of God which bringeth salvation is the light in every man is not this an inference or conclusion made out of something which is not to be granted nor can by this Scripture be prooved and is at best but a meaning and without a warrant 2. It is further evident that that grace which brings salvation though it appeare to all yet it teacheth us viz. the regenerate the Children of the new-birth the Beleevers to deny ungodlinesse and worldly lusts and to live righteously and soberly and Godly in this present evill world It not only pointeth out the way and sheweth it by way of direction but it giveth understanding and causeth the new-borne Babe the Believer to tast that the Lord is gratious It pointeth out the way and sets his feet into the way and leads him on in the way establisheth his goings in that way keepes his feete that they slide not from the way Of this David was sensible when he prayed Psal 25.4 5. Shew me thy waies O Jehovah Teach me thy paths lead me in thy truth and teach me for thou art the God of my Salvation on thee doe I wait all the day And to this agrees that blessed Covenant promise Eccles 36.27 And I will put my Spirit within you and cause you to walke in my Statutes and ye shall keep my judgements and doe them This is the grace of God which teacheth both privately and positively viz. to deny ungodlinesse and worldly lusts and to live righteously and Godly in this present evill word And this grace of God doth thus teach viz. by way of demonstration only shewing the way and saying walke in it but by way of effectuall causation causeing to walke in it giving power and strength to walke therein strengthning the nerves and sinne●es and joynts upholding and leading on the regenerate or new-born teaching him to deny ungodlinesse and to live Godly in Christ Jesus But it is not so with the light in every man for the property thereof at most is but to discover and make manifest the deeds done it is not in the power of the light as 't is in every man so much as to call any thing that 's done either good or evill but as it relates and referrs to the law for by it viz. the law comes the knowledge of sin Nor doth the law as it s in every man convince every man of all ungodlinesse and that may be thus demonstrated The Law as hath been formerly minded is either considered as the Law of works or Law of faith Rom. 3.27 As in the first capacity i. e. of workes so every man and woman in the world is under the Regiment thereof Rom. 2.14 Rom 3.19 As the Law of faith so it is not written in every mans heart For all men have not faith 2 Thess 3 2. In their hearts only is the Law written who are borne againe of the Spirit and from above Jer. 31.33 Heb. 8.8.10 Gal. 3.9 Rom. 9.8 The Law as considered a Law of works hath power over every man and woman in the world in things appertaining to the first Covenant both to give rule touching things to be done or left undone requring obedience yea perfect obedience to its command as well in what 's to be done as how to be done and this both Negatively and Positively Forbidding as well what is not to be done as commanding what is to be done To which are anexed these conditions viz. The man that doth them shall live in them Rom. 10.5 And cursed be every one that continueth not in every thing which is written in the Law to doe it Gal. 3.10 In order to
not only to pacifie but to purifie the conscience and that not in relation to sins past only but also that for time to come thou mightest denying all ungodlinesse live righteously soberly and Godly in this present world which earnest longing of soul was mightily raised up and increased in thee by the delayes which the heavenly Father exercised thee with according to his divine wisedome to commend his love to thee and thereby to let thee know how great a love and what a manner of love it was that should bear withall thy frowardnesse and impatiency and unbeliefe and mistrust and almost despairs giveing thee hints and tasts and opening certain crevises of light makeing darknesse light before thee and crooked things streight susteyning and supporting thee with secret hope founded upon his goodnesse in promiseing and faithfulnesse in performing which thou sometimes beleeved'st though weakly that he would doe and could not chose but doe because he was faithfull in this desart he kept thee the longer to acquaint thee with the disposition of thine owne heart that thou mightest see what was in thee and that he might cause the carkases of the rebells murmurings and unbeliefe to fall and perish in this wildernesse And at length thou knowest how though thou thought'st it long first he caused judgement to break forth into victory by removing all thy doubts fears distrus'ts not all at once nor on a suddaine but by measures and degrees as thou wast capeable of bearing such discoveries revealing him whom thy soule loved and so longed for performing that for thee in an higher more safe more sure way which thou by thine owne works wouldst have affected for thy selfe in thine owne strength and in thy owne way so that the kindnesse and love of God our Saviour thus appearing not by works of righteousnesse which thou hadst done but according to his mercy he hath saved thee by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the holy Spirit the shedding abroad whereof though but in the first fruits were the evidence of thine adoption whereby in some measure thou wert able to cry Abba-Father And could'st tel to others what a wonderful redemption thou hast attained unto through grace whereby thou art redeemed not only from thy vaine conversation wherein in times past thou lived'st but also from all thy selfe righteousnesse wherein thou wast exalting thy naturall man dressing a dead carkasse with raggs of thine owne makeing trimming up the Tomb and garnishing the Sepulcre and bringing thine ointments and spices to odoriferate a dead Jesus whom now thou understandest is risen and hath appeared manifesting himselfe to thee and in thee in a portion and measure by whom thou beleevest in God that raised him from the dead and hath given him glory by whom thou hast received the attonement and obteyned eternal redemption by faith in him And now what workings of heart are upon thee tongue cannot express thy new life and renewed being puts thee now upon enquireing as David after Jonathan what 's to be done to testifie thankfulnesse to him who hath loved thee and washed thee from thy sins in his blood now takeing the Cup of salvation and calling upon the name of the Lord walking before the Lord in the Land of the liveing Now the new song sing praises to our God sing praises c. It 's too wonderfull to say how brim full and runing over thy heart is what would'st thou not be now and doe now for him who hath done so much for thee I want words to expresse Now that which thou wast exercised in at the beginning when thou wast working for life before thou wert unbottom'd laying it as a foundation instead of Christ will become thy soule to be conversant in as a fruite and effect of life and of thy praisefull heart for though they were not fit to be a foundation yet are comely and beautifull being built upon the foundation who so offereth praise glorifieth God now to live holily Godly righteously strictly to walke watchfully and circumspectly humbly to be filled with fruits of righteousnesse which are by Jesus Christ unto the praise and glory of God and all this as a thank-offering performed as a Sacrifice of praise was not this thy frame of Spirit then Sure it was Neverthelesse The enemy of thy salvation Satan that old Draggon the Serpent that lyar and murtherer did he not lye in waite to devour this new born Babe this birth from above tempting thee either to doubt of the truth and reallity of this discovery and manifestation to thy soule perswading thee it was a delusion and that the newes was too good to be true and so possest thee with feare distrust and unbelief under which thou for a season wert distressed till the Son of righteousnesse dispelled this cloud for thee by makeing his day-light shine more bright upon thee But this baite not takeing effect this murthering tempter did insinuate to thee that now the bitternesse of death was past God had made thy mountaine strong so as that thou shouldest never be moved thou wert now called unto liberty and that there was not need of being so strict as thou hadst been thou needest not henceforth be so watchfull nor mournfull nor prayerfull these had their use in their day while thou wert seeking after the enjoyment of God but were now unnecessary and uselesse for thee haveing attained but to live freely and cheerfully in the liberty to which thou wert called to enjoy the fulnesse and fatnesse of the blessing wherewith thou wert betrusted whether it were spirituall or temporall this was to walke worthy the Lord and his high calling and to speake good of his name and of his Salvation and to declare to all that should see or converse with thee that thou wert redeemed indeed and in thee was fulfilled that word Let the heart of them rejoyce which seeke the Lord much more of them which finde the Lord With this sort of temptation thou wert in danger of being taken it had so specious a pretence for God and came so near to that which was acceptable to the flesh that thou listened'st to it and to the reason that seemed to be in it the fruit was goodly to the eye pleasant to look on 't was good for food and to be desired to make one wise for it represented God in another manner of appearance then thou hadst known him it led thee into a more seeming Spirituality of discerning then thou hadst been acquainted with tending to a neglect of thy former so much prized and prospered duties of seeking the face of God in prayer and other exercises under this notion that they were but forms and that bodily exercise peofiteth not and that they were but performances in letter but not in Spirit with many more such like as these till at length thou wast drawn into a disesteeme and disuse of that which once was more deare and precious to thee then thy life and wherein thou enjoyest communion
to God from all men that you need never looke at man more * Farnworth discovery of faith pa 12. Being obedient to the light within it will bring you to purity to holinesse to uprightnesse there is your teacher present with you * * A breife discovery of Antichrist pa 4. That light obeying it is your salvation Disobeying that light is your Condemnation Minde your teacher within minde the light within Jer. 31.34 Esa 54.13 Jo. 6.46 Jo 2.27 This light opens all Scriptures and leades man out of the fall up to God the Father and Fountaine of lights this is the true light and leadeth unto life Eternall John 1.5.8 9.10 11 12 13. John 17.10.23 24. * * Farnworth Ranters discovered This pure light that doth proceed and come forth from God which is pure and perfect it convinceth man of all the deceits of his heart and of all his false wayes and worships and Convinceth him of unrighteousnesse and infidelity and all manner of evill whatsoever and leads him into the way of peace and salvation in obedience to it This light is from the Fountaine of lights it is the light of life John 16.25 26 27 28. John 12.35 36. God is supernaturall and this light proceeds and comes from him Farnworth Ranters discovered As in the former branch or Generall head so also in this I shall not need to say ought positively touching the light in every man viz. What it doth Having spoken thereof before in the former part But shall proceed to Consider and Examine by the holy Scriptures whether that which I finde alledged touching it and it's operation be such as it is said to be And herein I might Collect and gather up into one many things as spoken by divers persons tending to the same thing though in variety of expression yet if so I should be constrained to vary in phrase and forme of speech which by the persons concern'd may be adjudg'd a crime as I have observed it to be so reputed in some others who to avoyd prolixity have done the like and have been censured for so doing I shall therefore as much as in me lyes keepe to the forme of words as they are laid downe in their owne termes and proceed in the tryall and examination thereof accordingly although I be censured by others for tautalogy and repetition These expressions fall in the first place under Consideration viz. The light which Christ hath Enlightened every one withall is made manifest and convinceth of all ungodlinesse and worldly lusts F. Howgill common salvation pa 7. Reply This passage in the first part thereof takes for granted That Christ hath Enlightned every one But how and under what Consideration it speakes not nor need there any thing be further spoken thereunto then to intreate the reader to remember what he hath observed upon occasion of that Scripture passage John 1. the first ten verses thereof to which he is referr'd 2. In the latter part thereof it saith That it Convinceth of all ungodlinesse and worldly lust but produceth no Scripture for the proofe thereof Object Is it not said in the 3d of John 20 Every one that doth evill hateth the light neither cometh to the light least his deeds should be reproved Ans 1. These are the words of the Lord Jesus touching himselfe so as he was Come a light into the world as may be observed vers 16 17 18 19. and is further testified John 12.46 I am Come a light into the world But they speake not of any light of Christ as derived from him and conveyed into the creature calling it the light of Christ as a thing distinct from him which convinceth of sinne viz. of all ungodlinesse and worldly lusts but testifie of Christ Jesus the light and therefore doe no way proove the thing in hand touching the light of Christ in every man except it be said and prooved that Christ the light is in every man Convincing him of all ungodlinesse and worldly lusts And if that were said so in plaine words it would then be enquired what testimony the Scripture gives to such a saying 2. The property of light is to make manifest the things that are as they are things made or done but that which discovers the rectitude the straitenesse or crookednesse of them is the application of a rule a reflection of the Law from whence proceeds the testification of the goodnesse or badnesse The light alone doth but manifest the action but the sentence touching the goodnesse or the badnesse thereof proceeds from the Law which is the rule of the action hence proceeds those rebukes those checks those smitings those convincing reproofes whereby a person is out-argued in himselfe and judged in himselfe not the sight of the thing done but of the evill of the thing done which can never appeare to be evill by all the light that is imaginable till the Law discover it to be so For where there 's no law there is no transgression * By the law cometh the knowledge of sinne Rom 3 20. I had not knowne sinne but by the law Rom 7.7 * Rom 4.15 It is the property of the light to make manifest Eph 5.13 For whatsoever doth make manifest is light And it is the property of the law to convince James 2.9 If yee have respect to persons yee commit sinne and are Convinced of the law as transgressors Object The law and the light are one Prov. 6.23 for the Commandement is a lamp and the law is light Ans John was a burning and a shining light Joh 5.35 and the Disciples were the light of the world Mat. 5.14 so testified of by Christ yet John was not that true light but to beare witnesse thereof John 1.8 nor were they the light of the world as he was the light thereof John 8.12 but they were his witnesses to the world Act. 1.8 Yee shall be witnesses unto mee Acts 2.32 This Jesus hath God raised up whereof wee are witnesses They were lights but they were not that light but bare witnesse of him who was That true light the very light of the world yet were they lights in the Scripture sence The lamps which the Lord had lighted up and set a burning John was a burning and a shining light to fulfill the worke of his testimony according to his Anoynting as also the Apostles were In like manner the Law may be called a light as John and the Disciples in their capacity were and as the words of the Prophets were 2 Pet. 1.19 The most High and holy God having placed such a transparency and brightnesse of perfection therein by which the rectitude of all actions is to be discovered and all swerving crookednesse and turning aside reprooved The law is not the eye by which we see but the Glasse in which we see our face by way of reflection and not the face only but every spot and blemish is discernable if it be applyed and the eye acted and exercised thereon This similitude