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A60636 Innocency and conscientiousness of the Quakers asserted and cleared from the evil surmises, false aspersions, and unrighteous suggestions of Judge Keeling expressed in his speech made the seventh of the seventh month at the sessions-house in the Old-Baily ... : wherein also is shewed that this law doth not concern them, they being no seditious sectaries, nor contrivers of insurrections, nor evil-doers, therefore no just law is against them. Smith, William, d. 1673. 1664 (1664) Wing S4308; ESTC R16062 11,414 18

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doer shall be as true as any that take Oaths and if false our penalty the sawe with false Swearers And further Witnesses under Moses's Law had no Oath administred to them though the crime bore witness of reached life but if any bore false witness the same punishment which should have been inflicted upon the person witnessed against should be insticted upon the false witness and witnesses which thing we desire may be done unto us So then the fault is in the Law and the Judges of it which denies true and faithful Evidence which in conscience they can believe except it be under the Ceremony of an Oath It is a shame for Christians to have a jealousie of each others testimony except they Swear it was enough in the first age of Christianity to confirm any testimony without an Oath to say Christianus sum or I am a Christian. And if no Government could have been without taking of Oaths the Author of all true Government and Rule would not have said Swear not at all but swearing Oaths and Strife is among men in the fall and degeneration and not among true Christians where it will remain till they know the Restorer of all things take away the cause of it which is sin Judge Whereas they pretend in their scibbles that this Act against Conventicles doth not concern them but such as under pretence of worshipping God do at their Meetings conspire against the Government This is a mistake for if they should conspire they should then be guilty of Treason and we should try them by other Laws but this Act is against Meetings to prevent them of such Conspiracy for they meet to consult to know their numbers and to hold correspondency that they may in a short time be up in Arms. Answ. Our Writings which he calls Scribbles are words of Truth and pretend no more than is true for we are not the persons committing those Crimes the Act expresly provides against except we under pretence of Tender Consciences do at our Meetings contrive Insurrection as late experience hath shewed and meet also under coulour and pretence of Religious exercise and so make this Pretence of Religion a Cloak to carry on and cover so me other Design which we never did for we meet indeed and in truth to wait upon God and to worship him Therefore this Law concerns us not if it be not strained beyond the expressed Reason of it in the preamble by our cruel Judges who may be compared to evening Wolves which are greedy to devour and it is time enough to try us by this Act or any other Law when we do and commit the fact the Law hath expresly provided against We meet not to consult and to know our numbers and to hold correspondencies nor to be up in arms in a short time for so to do is Conspiracy which he as good as confesseth and acknowledgeth that we are not guilty of for he saith if we were he would try us by some other Law But these are evil suggestions and wickedly imagined against us in order to destroy us this is unrighteous Judgement and God will plead our Cause in the consciences of our Adversaries Judg. I had the honour to serve the King at York upon the Tryal of those wicked Plotters and we found that those Plots was hatched and carried on in these meetings and we hanged up four or five of the Speakers or Praters whom we found to be chief Leaders in that Rebellion Answ. It is and hath been our portion and lot to be numbred among Transgressors by that envious spirit which seeks our ruine though we have been found no hatchers or carriers on of trecherous Designs against any at our Meetings and he might as well have compared us to those Members of Englands Church hanged monthly at Tyburn Judg. I warrant you their Leaders will keep themselves from the Third Offence we shall not take them if we could catch their Leaders we should try them by some other Law which if executed will take away their lives Answ. We have no Leader but Christ Jesus who is the Captain of our Salvation and he is our Shepherd and we hear his Voice and learn of him and are the Sheep of his Pasture and in our Consciences we are bound and ingaged because we love Him and his Paths of Purity to follow Him who leads our Souls to rest But for such which the Judge means by Leaders who have been made instruments to turn our minds from Darkness to Light and from the power of Satan to God they together with us are resolved to keep to the Grace of God the true Teacher which teacheth to deny Ungodliness and worldly Lusts and to live soberly righteously and Godly in this present world and by this Grace which appears to all men are we taught and preserved from offending against any Just Laws once and so he may well warrant himself and others that they will not offend three times And his blemishing those he calls Leaders as if they put on others to suffer and slee themselves is altogether false for it is well-known in the Nation that many of them are in prison where some of them have long remained for refusing to take the Oath of Allegiance upon which account divers of them are permunired and many suffer for meeting howbeit if you should be suffered to take away some of their lives which they can freely give up if called to it yet know that the God whom we serve is unlimitted and will open the mouths of thousands to bear witness against Unrighteousness So when you do take and catch more of them you will have no evil to lay to their charge nor nothing to accuse them for but about matters appertaining to God's Kingdom as Conscience Faith Worship and Religion which the Civil Magistrate ought not to intermeddle withall it belonging to God alone to whom all must give an account for such things and people ought not to be imprisoned and persecuted and their lives taken away about Matters of Religion for if a People have a false faith and a misguided conscience and are by reason of this faith and misguided conscience exercised in a false worship and Religion these People deserve the more to be pittied informed and dealt lovingly and tenderly with than to be persecuted imprisoned and destroyed and so sent quick to Hell this is no Christian Love nor the way to Restore Judge This is a Merciful Law it takes not away their Estates it leaves them intire only banisheth them for seven years if they will not pay an hundred pounds and this is not for worshipping of God according to their Consciences for that they may do in their own Families but forsooth they cannot do that but they must have thirty forty or an hundred others to contrive their designs withal Answer As he began his Speech in falshood and enmity so it ends in the same for if this be a Merciful Law as those that