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A27231 The principles of the Quakers further shewn to be blasphemous and seditious in a reply to Geo. Whitehead's answer to the Brief discovery, stiled Truth and innocency vindicated / by Edward Beckham ..., Henry Meriton ..., Lancaster Topcliffe ... Beckham, Edward, 1637 or 8-1714.; Topcliffe, Lancaster, 1646 or 7-1720.; Meriton, Henry, d. 1707. 1700 (1700) Wing B1653; ESTC R34193 145,045 110

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this Interpretation St. Jude tells us of a sort of Libertines risen up amongst v. 4. them whom he would not have to Batter themselves that they should escape the just severity of a righteous God if they continued such therefore he minds them that tho God most wonderfully saved the Children of Israel his peculiar People from their Egyptian Bondage yet he destroyed them for their Infidelity and also tells them how severely he dealt with the mutinous Angels that he v. 6. clapt them up in everlasting Chains of Darkness to be reserved to the Judgmeet of the last day From them he descends to Sodom and Gomorrha whose Wickedness provoked God to involve them in a dreadful Ruin and yet the outward Fire which burnt down their Cities was but an Emblem of those eternal Flames which were to be indured by them afterwards Having thus described the Fate of these great Sinners he presently inveighs against their Filthiness and Impurities telling them that to such is reserved the blackness of Darkness for ever and that Enoch the seventh from Adam foretold the Judgment which should befal such men in these words Behold the Lord cometh to execute Judgment even this Judgment which St. Jude had spoken of before Chains of Darkness the vengeance of eternal Fire and Blackness of Darkness for ever He cometh with ten thousands of his Saints Sure not Christ in his Saints for Christ even then was come in many of his Saints and that Vengeance was not executed upon those Sinners and as yet they felt not the least scorching of those Flames But Christ shall come with them to execute this Judgment at the last Day Eccl. 8. 5. The second Scripture is Eccles 5. 8. it should be Eccl. 8. 5. A wise man's Heart discerneth both Time and Judgment What a Text is this to prove the Infallibility Char. Essay p. 6. of discerning who are Saints and who are Devils He might e'en as well have proved from hence every wise man to be a judicial Astrologer able to give certain Judgment of Times and Seasons Rain or Wind Famine or Pestilence 1 Cor. 2. 15. Next 1 Cor. 2. 15. is called in as a witness which says thus He that is spiritual judgeth all things yet he himself is judged of none Here again wants the word infallibly neither doth the Apostle say the spiritual man judgeth all Men but Things We cannot but allow the spiritual man judges all things by the assistance of the Spirit but then this all must be restrained to what went before all things that are revealed to him in the Gospel All things there revealed that are necessary to Salvation the spiritual man the Spirit assisting him may certainly discern by the Gospel of Christ which is the Christian's Rule good or evil true or false which can never be done by the Rule or Standard of Fleshly Wisdom Further the Text says he cannot be judged by any viz. fleshly-minded men Being taught by the Spirit of God he is not to stand before the Tribunal of carnal Reason neither is he to stand or fall by such a Sentence as 1 Cor. 4. 3. ' T is a small thing for me to be judged by you or 1 Cor. 4. 3. of Man's Judgment And indeed what need he regard what such men talk of him and his Religion no more than he should heed what the blind man's judgment is about Colours or Beauty All this while where is the Infallibility of every Member of the Church in discerning who are Saints and who are Devils But above all his Ignorance or much worse is to be wonder'd at to think he 1 Cor. 6. 1-6 could suborn 1 Cor. 6. 1 c. as a witness to such an Infallibility of discerning when the Text speaks plainly of civil Disserences between Believers and is it not the Apostle's main design to take them off from seeking redress of wrongs at the Heathen Tribunals where the application would be scandalous and the Judgment partial but rather to refer the matter to some Christian Friends If there be a wise man to be found amongst you let him judg but must every Umpire or Arbitrator needs be infallible in their Judgments Does this suppose that the Christians of those days could penetrate into the very Hearts and secretest Actions of the Litigants and upon the first sight of them could discover who it was that did the wrong and who that suffer'd it without any further search into the business by examining Evidences only by the immediate Revelation of the Spirit of God If Quakers could do this we would readily subscribe to that Doom which Fox pronounces against all Rulers Judges Justices Lawyers c. and give our consent for the cutting down such a fruitless News out of the North p. 20. Tree and set up Quakers in the room of them who can discern which are the Just and Righteous which the wrong Doers and the wrong Sufferers without the tedious and expensive trouble of sending for Witnesses from York to Westminster without such dilatory Forms of Allegata Probata or feeing the Lawyers with Guineas to plead our Cause if they do but look them in the Face they can tell you from the Spirit of the Lord who it was that stole the Horse or rob'd the Glover's Till c. Next poor Job must be wronged by him even as much as by his censorious Friends He is a Witness as George Whitehead saith to this Blasphemy but let us not take his word since we find he has abused as great Saints as him What then says holy Job Cannot my tast● discern perverse things And we dare Job 6. 30. refer it to any that hath any taste at all whether he can discern Infallibility here God hath given us sensible Faculties to enable us to discern sweet and bitter hurtful or healthful things to these Bodies of ours as also rational Faculties to discern what is good or evil true or false for the welfare of our Souls therefore he has given us Infallibility of discerning who are Saints who are Devils Truly Reader both you and we had need of Patience as the Apostle speaks to be continually vexed with such Impertinencies as these Just thus deals he 1 Cor. 14. 29. with St. Paul Let the Prophets speak and let others judg 'T is well our Bibles have escaped the Censure of the second days meeting we should have had Infallibility trump'd upon us in every one of these Texts as from the mouth of the Lord by those bold Inquisitors who sit every week to correct and amend every Message from the Lord before it is licensed to go forth into the World We doubt not but this dead and killing Letter this Serpents Meat the Scriptures must have undergone the same sate e're now but only thanks be to God it was printed long before Quakery was born Heb. 5. 14. is another Heb. 5. 14. of their convincing Proofs Those that are strong have
THE PRINCIPLES OF THE QUAKERS Further shewn to be Blasphemous and Seditious In a REPLY to GEO. WHITEHEAD'S Answer to the Brief Discovery Stiled Truth and Innocency Vindicated BY EDWARD BECKHAM D. D. Rector of Gayton-Thorpe HENRY MERITON M. A. Rector of Oxborough LANCASTER TOPCLIFFE LL. B. sometimes Senior Fellow of Gonvil and Caius College in Cambridg now Rector of Hockwold Norfolk LONDON Printed for Brabazon Aylmer at the Three Pigeons against the Royal Exchange in Cornhil 1700. To the honble Sir JACOB ASTLEY Knight and Baronet and Sir WILLIAM COOK Baronet Members of this present Parliament for the County of Norfolk GENTLEMEN YOUR known Love to our Church and Loyalty to your Prince render you deservedly esteemed by all that have a value for each and was our encouragement to shelter the following Papers under your Names We are forced in a Christian Country Quis temper at à lachrymis to contest for Christianity and appear Advocates for our Antient and English Government against a sort of Men who are risen against the Lord The Apostles preached Christ that was crucified within and not another for the other is the Antichrist Now I say if there be any other Christ but he that was crucified within he is the false Christ Geo. Fox ' s Great Myst p. 205. Do you read that there were any Kings since the days of the Apostles but among the Apostate Christians We know that these Kings are the Spiritual Egyptians got up since the days of the Apostles Geo. Fox in his several Papers given forth c. See Brief Discovery p. 16. The Priests of the World are Conjurers Thieves and Robbers Antichrists Witches Devils Scarlet-coloured Beasts really they are Blood-hounds says Geo. Fox See Pennyman ' s Quakers Contradictions p. 3. Sect. 7. And Richard Crane stiles them Antichrists Deceivers Sorcerers ravening Wolves and Babylons Merchants See Will. Mather's Appendix to his Answer to the Switch p. 10 11. and his Anointed reproaching them both as Antichristian As for the Ministers of Christ they upon all Occasions have been sufficiently reviled by them and we doubt not but 't was spoken by way of Contempt when George Whitehead at every turn calls us Priests and in his Title Page stiles us the Three Norfolk Priests he very well knowing that the common People have an ill apprehension of the Word tho very honourable and worthy in it self and of great esteem in the first and Primitive days For who can deny says a most Learned * Mr. Jos Mede l. 1. Disc 5. p. 27. Man of our own that the word Priest is corrupted of Presbyter our Ancestors the Saxons first using Preoster whence by a farther contraction came Preste and Priest the High and Low Dutch have Priester the French Prestre the Italian Prete but the Spaniard only speaks full Presbytero A Name which those two great Apostles of our Lord St. Pet. 5. 1. 2 d and 3 d Epist of St. John v. 1. Peter and St. John were pleased to call themselves by and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifies both in our Holy Books and amongst the Greek Cor. 5. 20. Ephes 6. 20. See Scapula Steph. Thes Writers to perform the Office of an Embassador and sure both the Name and the Persons were in great esteem with the Christians of the best and earliest Times Epist ad Smyrn p. 6 9. ad Ephes p. 19. ad Magnes p. 31 33. ad Phil. p. 43. ad Trall p. 48 50 53. Edit Voss whenas Ignatius scarce wrote an Epistle wherein he gave not some Marks of Honour to them stiling them the Council of God charging the People to reverence and obey them as the Apostles and in holy things to do nothing without theirs and their Bishops Advice But had the Word been a stile of Reproach we should have worn it as our Crown since it was for vindicating the great Truths of the Gospel and discovering the Blasphemies of those who would introduce another for when our Saviour was so coarsly used yea blasphemed by a new Race of Scribes and Pharisees should his Disciples as St. Peter stand a far off whilst they buffet and spit upon him that were in construction to deny him or at least to say we know not the Man how could we but with the Lydian Prince who tho dumb before broke silence when he saw his Father ready to be assassinated cry out ' t is our Saviour and our holy Books the Scriptures Oh! do not vilify and blaspheme them God knows we wou'd not imitate St. Peter's rashness no more than his cowardice draw a sword to cut off an Ear no not so much as an Hair of their Heads our hearts desire is with holy Paul that they may be saved that they may own their Blasphemies and repent of them if it be posiible for Infallibility or Perfection to acknowledg Sin or Error and that they would take the Advice of a great tho Heathen Woman Mat. 27. 19. to meddle no more so wickedly and blasphemously with the Holy Jesus We know it has been the usage of many to turn their Dedications into Panegyricks on their Patrons and sometimes deservedly too great Merits calling for just Acknowledgments as a due return and to encourage others to become imitators of them but tho your Worth would afford us a large Field to expatiate in your Modesty forbids our very entrance upon it since to do you justice Ignat. Epist ad Trall p. 49. Edit Voss herein would we are sure render you very uneasy like the holy Martyr who underwent a Penance when he heard himself commended Gentlemen You had our Votes and you shall not want our Prayers That God would by his Grace establish you in all Goodness and continue you whilst in this Station the true Representatives of the best and worthiest part of your Country in a just Zeal for the Established Religion and a ready support of the Antient Government of our Church and State which is the only way wherein we can manifest our selves May 10. 1700. Your most affectionate most humble and devoted Servants EDWARD BECKHAM HENRY MERITON LANCASTER TOPCLIFFE A PREFACE To the Judicious and Impartial Reader THE Piece lately put forth by George Whitehead called Truth and Innocency Vindicated might more properly have been stiled Blasphemy and Sedition palliated We acknowledg the Charge which the Brief Discovery gave was high and home and could not but affect them deeply and therefore some Paint and artificial Colours must be procured to render their Doctrines at least tolerable in the Eyes of the World which how far they have done the Reader will easily discern by the following Reply 'T was hop'd after we had given so many clear Instances out of their approved Authors of several blasphemous and seditious Principles maintained by them that either the Citations would have been evidenc'd to be false and forged or the Authors disown'd as to these Particulars at least and so the Doctrines being pernicious
Corruptions of Kings are spiritual Egyptians Deliver us from such trifling 't is both a tiresom and useless Imploy to be engag'd in pursuing and catching Flies We come now to George Fox Jun. who vented as much Rancour against chusiug Members of Parliament by the Voices of his People as his Talent enabled him and yet endeavoured to be vindicated by his Brother Whitehead Pag. 32 33. A Parliament chosen by the Voices of the People are not saith he like to govern for God or the good of his People no doubt he knew a much better way that none but Quakers should come to the Poll and this he spoke from the Mouth of the Lord too for this that I declare to you the Lord by his Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding opened in me This Method of See the Brief Discovery p. 17. the Peoples chusing their Representatives by a Majority of Voices was you see infinitely displeasing to God if we believe Fox tho nothing seems more reasonable to us than that they who act in our stead and name should be chosen by us But besides particular Revelation from God touching this The Scriptures he tells are point blank against our English Usage herein and if you will says he believe them then may vou see that a Parliament chosen by most Voices are not like to act for God or the good of his People Well let 's hear what the Scriptures say herein he names three The first is John 15. 19. If ye were of the World the World would love his own but because ye are not of the World but I have chosen you out of the World to be sure these Words because ye are not of the World c. refer particularly to the Quakers they are not of the World but chosen out of the World therefore the World hateth you In our Saviours ' Days the World was made up of Jews and Gentiles who soon shew themselves most bitter Enemies to the Christians but is England made up of such do these chuse Parliamen-men for us no doubt then Christianity wou'd soon be decreed against and Judaism or Heathenism by Law be established But what does this make against us when the whole Kingdom owns the Christian Religion and none are chosen but the Professors thereof Is he not a rare Prophet to this Nation as he stiles himself thus to interpret the Scripture to them His next place is Matt. 7. 13. Wide is the Gate and broad is the Way that leadeth to Destruction and many there be which go in thereat This we are sure is wide enough from the thing 't is quoted for and if we come not nearer in the last we must get a Quakers Translation of the Bible to find something for their turn Rom. 9. 27. is his other place Tho the Number of the Children of Israel be as the Sand of the Sea a Remnant shall be saved He that can read here that a Parliament chosen by most Voices cannot act for God and the good of his People must look through a Glass unknown to all Interpreters since the Apostle's Days to the time of the Quakers Most prodigious Boldness to father all this stuff upon the Spirit of the God and the holy Scriptures and make the World believe that this wise Constitution of our Ancestors in electing Members by the Voices of the People was condemn'd by them he had a mind no doubt the Army should interpose and hinder the Commons from their free Election for to them in particular did he direct his Message But we cannot but remark the Wariness and Wisdom of George Whitehead in this particular who tho he would willingly speak a good word for his Friend for certainly Pag. 33. George Fox Jun. says he had an honest intent in what he wrote of this Subject yet thinks not fit to go too far in this Matter Pray observe says he That I do not in the least design to oppose the People's fair and lawful Elections according to the true and just Intention and Constitution of Parliaments No truly George thou did'st therein very wisely for that is a nice Point and dangerous to touch much upon at least at present 't is too early a day to promote such a design as yet we must be quiet till the blessed time of our raign is come and then we 'll damn all the ungodly Priviledges which the wicked call People's Birthrights and make as great havock of their Charters as was done in the late Reign we 'll closet every Man of them and make them promise to give their Votes for our Light within that we may have a Parliament to govern for God Thou wer't more plain and ingenuous with us George p. 64. Where thou sayest Thou would'st not be understood in any-wise to oppose the People's legal and just Rights to Elections No George whatever thy meaning and intention be we know thou would'st not be understood so whatever Faux and Catesby designed against the Government yet good Men they would not be understood to have designed any such thing such a design is to be a Dark-Lanthorn Business If thou wouldest not be understood thou mightest even have kept it to thy self and not so foolishly have opened thy very Heart to us in justifying thy Brother Fox who so not oriously opposes the Peoples choice But how then can'st thou vindicate thy dear Brother who positively asserts that a Parliament chosen by the Voices of the People is not like to govern for God or the good of his People if not then to be sure he wou'd have them chosen some other way Nay says he The chusing of Parliament-men according to the Custom of England which is called its Birthright stands in respect of Persons and not in Equality Oh! this is a very unequal and unjust way of chusing Parliament-men And we see says he The People have been in great blindness in contending for Parliaments so chosen a blind buzzardly People that will be always contending for this way and not let the Saints chuse alone who only have right to do it I must deal plainly with you says he and we think very unmannerly too but according to the Quaker's guise in the sight of God who has made me a Prophet to this Nation This was rare and delicious indeed fit for the season 't was written in when there was no King in Israel and so every Man wrote and said what was right in his own Eyes But now it may be dangerous to speak it over again and therefore says George Whitehead pray observe That tho I wou'd help our Friend at a dead lift I do not in the least design to oppose the Peoples fair and lawful Elections according to the true and just Intention and Constitution of Parliaments No we now pretend great Honour to Parliaments thus chosen tho our Brother George Fox ●ail'd against it in his Days as intollerable And we reprinted his Book to keep up his Testimony against this way of