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A01009 Purgatories triumph ouer hell maugre the barking of Cerberus in Syr Edvvard Hobyes Counter-snarle. Described in a letter to the sayd knight, from I.R. authour of the answere vnto the Protestants pulpit babels. Floyd, John, 1572-1649.; Jenison, Robert, 1584?-1652, attributed name. 1613 (1613) STC 11114; ESTC S115113 123,366 230

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Saints on earth compared with that you might purchase to your selfe euerlastingly by charity reuerence and deuout prayer to Saints in heauen who sit in the same Throne with the King of Kings ruling the world (t) Apoc. 3. How holy would you be were you the Cypher (u) Counters p. 20. of these Blessed Kings who cannot command amisse How happy were you friend of these fauourites not of a mortal Prince whose glory shall turn into dung whose Maiestie be consumed with magots who this day glittereth in gold (x) Gloria eius stercus vermis Machab. 1. 2. but the next may be cast into Hell (z) Hodie est eras in clibanum mutitur Matth 6. Luc. 12. but of the Eternall King whose maiestie inuiolable glorie immutable power inuincible goodnes incomprehensible whose life eternitie The Peeres Princes of which glorious Kingdome you would not Syr Edw. so boldly blaspheme as you do did you indeed firmely belieue that you must meet with them againe one day when they shall reuenge iniuries done to them bind Kings in fetters and their Nobles in gyues did not your Protestāt charitie so fill your hart with Earth that these heauēly wholesō cogitatiōs cānot enter into it Saints out of sight are out of mind your Church hath no communication with thē you pray neither for them nor vnto them 46. His Maiesty in the Conference of Hampton-Court would not haue the Custome of Churching women after their lying in to be abrogated though Puritans did much exclaime against it because he would not haue women that are of themselues backward in that duty be depriued of such an occasion as might force them therunto oftner then other wise they would Wherin as I highly commend his religious prudence so could I wish the like might be vsed in the renewing of Catholike Custome to pray for the soules in Purgatory and vnto the Saints of Heauē Men are so ready now a daies to belieue there is no other world but this present that all things end with this life that the soule liueth not after the body or at least they are so apt to forget what shall befall them after death so seldome do they think of the last things to the remembrance whereof the Holy Ghost doth so often exhort vs (a) Eccle. 7 Memorare nouissima tua in aeternum non peccabis that no occasion should be omitted in procuring that so profitable a thing might be cōtinually as much as may be in mens mindes 47. And to this end not any thing is more forcible then these two pointes of Catholick faith that some soules in the next world need our help some others may help vs. This belief will not permit charity to be wholy imployed vpon the Saints vpon earth the loue of themselues wil force men often to remember and call vpon the Saints in heauen wishing their blessed company in glory for help And affectiō towards deceased friendes will cause them to call to mind think that shortly they shal be as their friēds are so procure and powre out deuotions for their relief if happily they stād in need therof Why should we labour to be wiser and perfecter then were the Apostles who as your Zwinglius saith (b) In Epicherisi de Canone missae fol. 285. did permit prayer for the dead exindulgentia infirmitatis humanae out of Indulgence vnto humaine infirmity What infirmity in mans nature is more frequent or daungegerous then forgetfulnes of another life Or when did this deadly disease more vniuersally raigne then in this last decaying age when a deluge of Epicurian humours threaten to dround in men the belief of a God 48. Why should not we then grant this Apostolicall Indulgence vnto Christians to pray for the dead that this custome may be the remembrance of another life if not perpetually yet frequently in mens mindes Specially this custome being Anciēt practised by the Machabees praised by the holy Ghost a deduction from Christs words the perpetuall tradition of the Church the first Christianity planted in our Kingdome as I haue proued in this Letter These are the fiue medicinable hearbes I made you promise of to purg your enraged humour against Catholick and Ancient truth the best furtherance I could affoard vnto your greatest good the most charitable Christian reuenge I could haue of you heaping Purgatory-coales on your head (c) Congere carbones super cuput inimici Rom. 12. for those reproaches you charged on mine 49. Your selfe allow that common prouerb that Cani latranti praeda elabitur (d) Counters p. 58. a snarling Curre misseth of his pray which may giue you iust cause to expect but hungry gaine of your Countersnarle where snapping at me you haue caught winde yea you haue beaten your owne choppes and bitten your tongue You lay the vices of vulgar life vpō your aduersary known to be free from the same which euen as stones cast vp into the Ayre fall strongly to the Center might returne heauily on your own head did not I hould thē by force within my pen. Amōgst all your marginall Annotations I must preferre that of your 58. page wher you teach me this lesson Conuitia hominum turpium laudes puta By the warrant of which sentence I may bind your contumelious Pāphlet to my head as a Diademe of honour (g) Circūdabo illum vt Coronā mihi Iob. 31. in which I hope your reproaches shall shine like pearle (h) Matth. 6. Beati estis cùm maledixerit vobis homines dixerint omne malum mentienres at that day when Purgatory and Penitentiall life that now haue got the Conquest of your Letter shall gloriously Triumph ouer Sin and Hell 50. What remaineth but only that I beseech him who with fiue pretious woūds on the Crosse redeemed the world that these my fiue reasōs fiue Purgatiue hearbs may work powerfully in you which I will not faile to do As your Iouiall Genius moued you to make a firme purpose neuer to reply to my answere (i) pag. 68. but to spend your time in laughing and sleeping (k) Aut dormitabo aut ridebo so do I feele the diuine spirit vrging me to a contrary course now more thē euer to imploy the rēnant of my life in watching weeping (l) Vigilabo flebo praying with harty groanes (m) Postulat pro nobis gemitibus inenarrabilibus Rom. 8. particulerly for your reclayming frō heresie that doing pennāce for your sinnes making satisfactiō in this world you may without any Purgatory or with a short sindge therin passe vnto the place of euerlasting Saluatiō From my Chamber in Hierapolis this 8. of September 1613. FINIS Faultes escaped in the Printing Page Line Fault Correction Pref. 6. 9. shirts skirts 4. 29. any my 9. 22. Photinians Popinians 16. 27. feare fayre 28. 3. blot bolt 38. 32. Should Could 40. 1. shame signe 54. 16. his puppy this puppy 59. 9. life selfe 57. 26. as the at the 103. 18. denying deriuing 105. 5. he who 113. 2. meerly merily ibid. 12. pleasure measure 142. 5. 25. Genua Geneua 145. 28. tould tould 146. 6. lucks tucks 147. 21. flight of flight Of Other faultes of lesse moment by reason of the obscure Copy and absence of the Author haue likewise escaped which the Reader may easily find and correct of himselfe FINIS