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A28531 The second apologie to Balthazar Tylcken treating of the eternall predestination and election of God, and of the incarnation, or becoming man and person, of Christ, and concerning the Virgin Mary / written in the yeare 1621, finished the 3. of July by Jacob Behme, also called Teutonicus Philosophus ; Englished by John Sparrow.; Zweyte Schutz-Schrift wieder Balthasar Tilken. English Böhme, Jakob, 1575-1624.; Sparrow, John, 1615-1665? 1661 (1661) Wing B3416; ESTC R14771 54,352 66

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come and I will speak with him of the Mystery else let him leave my apprehension unreproved 36. If he be a Christian let him Live in Love towards a Christian and rejoyce in the Gifts which God giveth us one among another why doth he brag and reproach so much that sheweth him to be a Proud Man let him deal Meekly and I will meet him meekly if he understand any thing according to his Gifts let him praise God and not contemne that which God giveth to another if he can not endure to read it let him leave it for those whom God hath called thereunto to whom HE will reveale or manifest it 37. Is not that a wonderfull thing that he will reprove the Three Principles and understandeth not out of what Center and understanding the Spirit speaketh he will begin the first Principle with the Fire where then remaineth the Center out of which the Fire originateth 38. Let him tell me how the Eternall Nothing introduceth it selfe from Eternity in Eternity into an Eternall Center and how the Eternall Nature from Eternity continually generateth it self whereby the Eternall Will which is called God manifesteth or revealeth it self from Eternity 39. With this his half-mute Description he will not bring me into it but in My Book of the Six Points he will well find it let him read that it is like he will become seeing if he but seek and begin aright 40. When I write of Three Principles then I understand Three Worlds as First the Center to Nature the Dark World in which the Fire or the sharpnesse of the sterne Might originateth from Eternity the Form to the Fire-Life in which property Gods fierce Wrath and Anger also the hellish Fire is understood from whence the Nature-Life Originateth which is not called God and though indeed it is Gods yet it attaineth not the Name and Divine source or quality in its own Essence as Saint John Witnesseth Chap. 1. Vers 5. Where he saith The Light shineth in the Darknesse and the Darknesse hath not comprehended it and this sheweth it self also in the Outward World how the Light shineth or giveth Light in the Darknesse 41. Now if the Fire be the First Principle as he saith then let him tell me whether the Darknesse cometh out of the Fire or whether the Fire maketh Darknesse Also what that is which Maketh Darknesse and how all this thus generateth it selfe from Eternity in Eternity 42. I suppose here my Pamphlet Maker will remain Mute he will indeed be silent concerning it unlesse he goe with Me into the School but he should first put off the Click of Pride else this Schoolmaster will not receive him he will have Children at School which look and trust upon him Not Lords 43. When I write of three Principles then I write of Three Worlds of Three Eternall Beginnings how they generate themselves 44. I understand with or by the Principles Not the Chaos the Eye of the Aether which dwelleth without Ground or Place in it self but I understand How the Eye of the Aether Manifesteth or Revealeth it self through and with the Principles and introduceth it self into Power Might Shining Glance and Glory viz with Desire and Lust or Longing Delight where in the Desire the first shutting in is effected which is a Darknesse where the Desire is the first Center to Nature which introduceth it self into the source or quality into the perceptibility and perception even into the Fire viz into the fourth Form as is sufficiently Described in our Books viz of the Three Principles also of the Threefold Life also in the Second Booke of the Becoming Man or Incarnation of Christ concerning Christs Suffering and Dying and yet higher in the Six Poynts to which Books I refer the Reader and so in this Part which the blind Man opposeth it is not here expressed at Large 45. Now if Gods Fire which generateth the Glance or Lustre of the Majesty be the first Principle and yet in the Darknesse the source quality or Torment and Pain and moreover the sterne Life is generated and also the Fire it self Originateth out of the Darknesse viz out of the sharpnesse with the aspect or appearance of the Liberty in the Lust or Longing out of the Chaos then tell me now my Opponent whether the Dark World be a Principle or whether He or I be blind in the Mystery 46. I know also very well that the Fire is a source or quality of Every Life but I say that the Root of the Fire is Dark and that the Dark world is not called God for it is an Enimicitious quality in it self a Cause of Nature 47. Indeed it is Gods and God who manifesteth himself through the Dark World with the Fire in the Light of the Majesty is its Lord for it becometh generated in the Desire of the Chaos out of the Abysse in the Nothing and in the Desire introduced into Darknesse but the Lust or Longing Delight of the Chaos to the Revelation taketh only thus its Sharpnesse and Fires Might to it self and yet bringeth it self againe through the Dying in the Fire wherein the Darknesse dyeth understand the Darknesses substantrality forth through the Fire into the Light and maketh another or Second Principle of another source or quality viz Joy Meeknesse and Love-Desire 48. Thus the Dark-source or quality-Spirit remaineth to be in it self an anguish and Paine and is called Gods Anger and fierce wrath and the kindled Fire in the Fourth Form at the Center is called a Consuming Fire whence God calleth himself an angry Zealous or Jealous fierce wrathfull God 49. And here understand Death and Dying as also Gods Holy Kingdome also his Anger or Kingdome of Hell viz the Darknesse is the Eternall Hell or Hole wherein Lucifer Batheth himself and into which the wicked Soul goeth and the fierce wrath to the Fire-Life is the right hellish Fire-life therein and yet there is no farre distance from God but a Principle only severeth them 50. As we see a Similitude of this in Fire and Light where the Dark Matter in the Fire Dyeth and the Light shineth out of that which dyeth and dwelleth in the Fire and the Fire comprehendeth it NOT. 51. Also the Light is not of the Fires Essence quality source or Torment for the Light giveth Meeknesse and an amiable thing or Substance viz out of that which before was a Dead Dark Substance a Water and herein lyeth Mysterium Magnum the Great Mystery My Dear Pamphlet-Maker seek and you will find knock and it will be opened unto you 52. Your Conceit is a Dead understanding as to the Mystery if you be taught of God then goe with me to the Center and then I will shew it you in all the things of this World yes in your very SELF I will have nothing excepted wherein I will not shew you the Similitude of the Three Principles Forbear your reproaching and become a Child then it will be shewen you but I
desire it no more become its Enemy have Enmity against it let God make of thee and beleeve in thee as strongly as he will depend on God and wrestle with him as Jacob did the whole night who then said I will not let thee Goe unlesse thou blesse me and David said Though it continue all the Day and in the Night and againe till the Morning yet my heart shall not give over 114. This is really to beleeve above all Reason when the Heart receiveth no Comfort and yet dependeth on God and saith in the Will LORD LORD I will not leave thee whether thou cast me into Heaven or Hell I will not forsake thee for thou art mine and I am thine I will be Nothing in thee make of me what thou wilt 115. Deare Brethren observe it well This storme and force at last breaketh Heaven and Hell whereof my Opponent as I understand in his very lamentable Writings knoweth nothing at all 116. He saith Man should stand still and expect what God will doe with him whether he casteth him into Heaven or Hell Man cannot prevent or hinder it it is concluded in Gods predestinate purpose or Councill whether he will cast every One O the Most Lamentable Place and Miserable Faith God pitty us that we suffer our selves to be so blinded 117. If we cannot come to God why then doth he bid us to Come Christ indeed saith he came into this world to seek and to save poor sinners also he came to seek that which is Lost viz the poor condemned Sinner whom God had cleerly drawne into the Darknesse and firmely included therein and Chosen him to be a Childe of Darknesse the same is Christ come to seek and to save and not the Righteous who is honest or pious beforehand look upon the Father of the Lost or prodigall Sonne how he did with the Swineheard who had spent his heavenly Goods with the Devills Swine Of the Grosse Errour of Balthasar Tylcken Concerning the Seed of Adam upon which he buildeth his Election 118. MY Opponent will make TWO Seeds in Adam out of which Naturally two sorts of Men become generated from the Mothers Body or Womb one out of the Seed of the Woman and the other out of the Seed of the Serpent therefore God Loved the One and forsooke or hardened the Other and will prove it with Cain and Abel also with Jacob and Esau upon which he buildeth the Election 119. But I tell you Deare Brethren if at that time when he wrote such Blasphemy against God and Mankinde he had been asleep how happy had the time been thus he maketh of the Image of God a twofold Image out of One Seed Two Seeds One party he ascribes to the Devill viz to the Serpent and the Other to the Womans Seed 120. But I would ask him Whether Cain and Abel as also Jacob and Esau were both conceived from the Seed of Father and Mother or whether at the Time when Cain became conceived there was in that very Seed in Adam and Eve out of which he became conceived a meere fleshly Essence as he giveth forth then must even the Devill have wrought or effected that very Seed in Adam and Eve for which God out of his predestinate purpose hath rejected him or let him but tell me who wrought or effected that same Serpents Seed in Adam and Eve of which he speaketh being he will not permit him to be Good and Evill according to the Two Inward Worlds and so maketh a Totall Seperation 121. O thou totally blinde lamentable miserable Reason be but advised The Doore of Grace standeth yet wide open doe not thus seduce the Children of Christ Whom Christ hath purchased with his precious Bloud who there saith Come all to me who are heavy laden with sinne observe yet the Center and the Ground of the Will of God look upon the Center 122. John saith The Light shineth in the Darknesse and the Darknesse Comprehended it not doe you not understand this when Adam was in his Innocency then his Light also shone to him in the Darknesse and the Darknesse comprehended not his Light but when he Imagined after the Darknesse that is after Evill and Good then the Evill quenched out his Light to him and the Darknesse became manifested or revealed on him then the Divine Substantiality dyed to him understand the Divine Bodyes or heavenly Fleshes Substantiality and the outward Spirits and the outward Elementary Fleshes Substantiality awakened or arose and gat a beastiall property 123. Also together in that beastiall property awakened or arose the Spirit or source or quality of Darknesse viz the First Principle in Gods Anger and so he dyed to the Angelicall World viz to Paradise and awakened or arose to the Outward World which is Evill and Good out of the Two Inward Spirituall Worlds 124. The Dark World should not be manifested on Man for the Light understand the Divine Light shined in Adam in the Darknesse and the Darknesse viz the first Principle could not Comprehend the Light but when Adams Imagination went thereinto then the Darknesse Comprehended the Light and all the Three Principles were stirring and manifested or revealed in Adam 125. For Adam would be as God and know Good and Evill which God did forbid them that they should not Eate of Good and Evill else they would dye but the Devill perswaded them they should become wise thereby yes wise Indeed so that when their Eyes became opened through their Imagination and Earthly Eating that they knew the outward beastiall property which became manifested or revealed on them the poor Soul was ashamed and is still ashamed to see the Beastiall Property 126. The Outward Body on Adam was indeed before the Fall but not Manifested or revealed to the Soul as now at present the Kingdome of Heaven is in us but to the Soul in its outward Part in this World not Manifested or revealed A Childe of Christ liveth at present in this World with the New Birth in Heaven and the Eye of the averted or Reverse Soul seeth it not but the Eye IN Christ seeth it Why God hated Cain and Esau and loved Abel and Jacob and which are those lost sinners that Christ is come to save 127. DEare Brethren doe but understand it aright Cain was not begotten out of a totall Devillish Essence out of the Serpents Seed but out of the Essence of all the Three Principles of all the Three Worlds for as Adam was after his Fall so also was his Seed 128. But know this when Adam fell then came the Three Principles together in Adam into Strife one with another viz Gods Anger-Kingdome Gods Love-Kingdome and this World Kingdome Cain was Comprehended in the Anger-Kingdome and Abel in the Love-Kingdome therefore rightly said God of Jacob Jacob have I loved and hated Esau thus also it was with Cain and Abel Cain had comprehended the Anger-Kingdome viz the First Principle
beginning but there is an Eternall beginning where the beginning and the End is all ONE the First is continually the Last and the Last is the First whatsoever God hath begun from Eternity to foresee that he beginneth now also at this Day alwayes every Moment to foresee 205. I CAN say with good Ground thus that if I were in my Mothers body or womb comprehended in his Anger then God had from Eternity seene me and apprehended me in his Anger and I were from Eternity Elected in his Anger 206. But if I convert in Repentance so that Gods Love apprehend me then I am also from Eternity foreseene out of the Anger into the Love for in God ALL is Eternall whatsoever at this day beginneth to alter in the Eternall that is from Eternity to Eternity equally in the Eternity 207. The Spirit in the Scripture hath another kinde of speaking than the World hath Know you not how it stands written in the Scripture where the Lord saith Suddenly I speak against a Nation or people which are Evill that I will destroy it but if they convert then it repenteth me of the Evill which I thought to doe unto them 108. Look upon Nineveh there you shall see whether God doth not alter his Will for Mans sake and the Apostle saith that even the Spirit of God is subject to Man viz to Holy Men. 209. His Election and beginning is alwayes every moment his Eternall Birth or Geniture is also every moment in him and before him is all both New and Old for the same God who hath Elected us in Christ before the foundation of the World he also every moment Electeth his Children that come to him the Matter consists only in the Conversion of the Will 210. And though it standeth written that it lyeth not in Mans willing that is only concerning those that Desire God and yet will not goe forth out of their sinfull Will they keep their sinne and yet will be saved therefore it lyeth not in HIS Willing but in this that Man goe out from sinne into Gods Grace and then it lyeth in the Mercy and that God doth readily for he hath promised it 211. It lyeth not in Man to make himselfe blessed or saved but in the Grace which God in his Sonne hath promised and bestowed for God willeth that All Men should be helped or saved as the Scripture saith his Election and out going is from Eternity and his Mercy is also from Eternity in Eternity ALL is in him ETERNALL 212. Therefore Men should better consider the Scripture as to such Termes or Expressions for it often speaketh out of the Eternall Mouth which beginneth every Moment 213. For when the Scripture faith He hardeneth their Hearts that they beleeve not and so come not to be saved then it speaketh of those who would be saved by their own ability in their Evill Will and Life those he suffereth to goe on in their purpose or predestination for they will doe it 214. As also Adam did he would not be resigned into God as a Childe but be his own and apprehend and know Good and Evill and Live in all the Three Principles for he went out from Gods will into his own of set purpose therefore God left him and then he fell downe and slept 215. And when he did eate of the forbidden fruit then Gods Anger Elected him to the Damnation of Death and Gods Love spake against it saying The Seed of the Woman shall Bruise or Crush the Serpents head and that was also an Eternall Election and yet it was also a beginning Temporary Election for how can an Election passe upon a thing when as yet it hath no Roote 216. Gods Anger hath from Eternity continually and still at this very day Elected IT SELFE to be a Darknesse that Gods Love and Light might in the Anger become Manifested or revealed 217. Now that which is out of the Eternall as the Soul of Man that hath also Free-will to manifest it selfe in the Light or in the Darknesse NOT that it hath the Light and Darknesse in ITS power but it hath ability to work in Good or Evill that is in the power of the Light or of the Darknesse and in which soever it worketh that manifesteth it selfe in it 218. The Might or power is Gods and the Soule is his Childe a Branch in the Tree proceeded out of Gods Mouth out of Love and Anger all THAT lyeth in it and is its own propriety 219. Who will then take away the Free-Will from it being it is a Branch in the Eternall Tree and hath Love and Anger in it selfe Or is it not true My Opponent speaketh Even so that the Anger lay hidden in Adam before the Fall and hath manifested it selfe with the Fall 220. But he maketh me Wonderfull beginnings in the Seed of Adam One with God another with the Serpent and that is a grosse Errour there are not TWO sorts of Seeds but ONE only but two sorts of Dominions lye in the Seed viz Gods Love and Anger and is but one only Seed 221. But as to one part from the Divine Substantiality from the Holy and pure Element in which the Paradise and Heaven ●●eth as also the Tincture of Fire and Light that very Seed disappeared in Adam when he fell whereof God said The day that thou eatest of this Tree thou shall dye 222. And the other Seed understand Spirit is the Center of the Eternall Nature viz of the Dark World according to which God calleth himselfe an Angry God but that was not stirring and manifest while the Light shone in the divine heavenly Paradisicall Substantiality but in the Fall it became manifested or revealed 223. But now Adam was also shut up in the Dominion and in the Spirit of the Outward World but that must in his Innocency goe also behinde and come after for Gods Kingdome ruled in him but when he fell then it became also manifested and powerfull in him and instantly heate and Cold fell upon him so that he must cloath himselfe and he fell by the Outward Worlds Might into the Corruptibility of his Body 224. Now what kinde of Seed should become generated in Adam out of which Cain and Abel could be conceived even such a one as Adam was after the Fall viz according to the Outword World Evill and Good and according to the Anger-World totally Evill 225. But now the Kingdome of God viz the Heavenly Substantiality was faded or disappeared in him for the Darknesse had received in the Light in him as you have an Image thereof in the dry withered Staffe of Aaron which Sprouted againe So also did the faded or disappeared Substantiality in the Spirit of Christ when God became Man in that very faded Substantiality 226. Now my Opponent with your Election come hither to Schoole now shew me the Grace-Election I will also shew it you in the Divine knowledge to