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the_o same_o matter_n &_o form_n that_o the_o l._n institute_v &_o likewise_o the_o same_o end_n which_o be_v the_o profession_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n &_o this_o be_v not_o false_a worship_n &_o so_o consequent_o not_o to_o be_v renounce_v again_o that_o which_o in_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n be_v devise_v by_o man_n be_v those_o unwarrantable_a ceremony_n of_o cross_v breathe_a anoint_v etc._n etc._n these_o be_v to_o be_v renounce_v as_o vain_a worship_n mat._n 15.4_o now_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v purge_v from_o the_o pollution_n of_o man_n &_o not_o with_o their_o pollution_n to_o be_v renounce_v for_o if_o pollution_n may_v warrant_v man_n to_o cast_v away_o with_o it_o that_o which_o be_v ordain_v of_o god_n then_o may_v not_o the_o holy_a vessel_n pollute_v in_o babylon_n have_v be_v bring_v again_o to_o jerusa_n nor_o yet_o the_o temple_n itself_o that_o be_v so_o great_o profane_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o idolatrous_a king_n have_v 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