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A50248 A defence of the answer and arguments of the synod met at Boston in the year 1662 concerning the subject of Baptism and consociation of churches against the reply made thereto, by the Reverend Mr. John Davenport, pastor of the church at New-Haven, in his treatise entituled Another essay for investigation of the truth &c. : together with an answer to the apologetical preface set before that essay, by some of the elders who were members of the Synod above-mentioned. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1664 (1664) Wing M1271; ESTC W19818 155,430 150

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author_n do_v a_o little_a afore_o in_o this_o same_o page_n pag._n 34._o mention_v the_o vigilancy_n and_o faithful_a care_n and_o endeavour_v of_o church-elders_a towards_o the_o child_n mention_v as_o a_o way_n or_o mean_n for_o convey_v religion_n down_o to_o after-generation_n which_o we_o for_o our_o part_n conceive_v to_o be_v sound_a and_o good_a but_o then_o how_o can_v this_o stand_v which_o be_v there_o say_v that_o such_o person_n be_v not_o under_o the_o watch_n discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n for_o do_v not_o the_o vigilancy_n of_o church-elders_a import_v some_o kind_n of_o church-watchfulness_n can_v there_o be_v such_o vigilancy_n care_n and_o endeavour_n towards_o such_o as_o be_v no●_n under_o the_o watch_n of_o the_o church_n at_o all_o or_o can_v such_o vigilancy_n care_n and_o endeavour_v of_o church-elders_a
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