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A77781 A testimony against the Quakers False-doctrine, and the image they have set up Being a defence of the book called Antichrist transformed. In answer to a little book, published by Giles Barnadiston. And for better information, the image is hereto annexed verbatim, with the subscribers thereof. Published by Geoffery Bullock. Bullock, Jeffery, of Sudbury. 1677 (1677) Wing B5426A; ESTC R201448 24,117 31

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and Women die and Soul and Body parts whether the Soul doth ascend above the visible Heavens to an Injoyment of Glory or whether it shall descend into Hell a Place of Misery and Torment 6. Whether you do believe the Resurrection of all the visible Bodies that have died ever since our first Parents Adam and Eve yea all that were before Noah's Flood and all the World that was drowned at the Flood yea and all the visible Bodies of Men and Women which have died both by Sea and Land from a day old to the longest age that ever Man lived and that every one of these visible Bodies shall arise and come to Judgment and receive their Reward in Misery and Torment or else in Glory and Happiness each one according to their deeds done in the Body yea Children that never knew what Sin was nor yet what their Souls and Bodies were 7. And whether you do believe that Christ shall descend from above the visible Heavens where the Priests and Professors and Rome also believe he now sitteth and from thence he shall descend with his visible Body and shall come and judge the World both Men Women and Children 8. And whether you do believe that this visible Earth shall be destroyed by fire and that the visible Heavens shall also melt with fervent heat Now Friends seeing you do not deny some of the Doctrines of the Church of Rome nor yet of the Priests of England but only that which is Antichristian and these are those Doctrines that both the Priests and Professors own Wherefore I would desire you to give forth a plain Answer both to the World and me also which of these fore-mentioned Doctrines are according to the Truth and which of them are Antichristian and Erroneous so write an Answer in plain words that every one that can read may come to understand for the Truth is not ashamed of the Articles of its Faith Now in pag. 11 of your Book you say that I do exclude the Manhood Now I do not exclude the Manhood out of his Place for the visible Man Christ was the Son of God by generation from God full of Grace and Truth But yet there is a Distinction to be made betwixt the Godhead and the visible Body in which the Godhead dwelt for Christ himself made a Distinction and said that his Father was greater than he And again he said My Doctrine is not mine but his that sent me And he said to the Jews Destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise it up again Now they had no power to destroy the Godhead that dwelt in the Temple that both was and is a thing impossible Now you say in pag. 12 of your Book That I contradict my self because that I said that the Man in the Mystery was the Womans Part that was his Soul and Body Now the Mystery that dwelt in Christ's Body that was the Godhead and the Godhead died not as I writ in my Answer to the Baptist Now as Christ was God or the Seed of God or the Son of God by generation from God he never died for the Holy Ghost died not neither had the Devil power to tempt him as he was God for God cannot be tempted as saith the Scripture But as he was the Son of Mary the Devil had power to present Temptations to his Soul even whilst his Soul dwelt in the Godhead But the visible Manhood which was the Seed of the Woman as well as the Seed of God who dwelt in the Godhead he was impowered by the Godhead to bruise the Serpents head in all his appearances and temptations and so the Seed of the Woman did bruise the Serpents head and so he never came under the Devil's power where both we and our first Parents Adam and Eve have been So that Christ as he was Man of the substance of his Mother he died but as he was God and of the substance of his Father he died not for the Godhead died not But as for our Souls and Bodies they like Eve their Mother have been in Transgression but as for Christ's Soul and Body it never consented to Sin nor yet joyned to the Spirit of Corruption And again you say His goings were of old from everlasting Friends are not the Lords goings by his universal Spirit among the Gentiles the same now as they were in the days of Abraham for then God appeared to Abimelech King of the Philistines by his Spirit in the night and was not he a Gentile as well as we and did not God by his Spirit make known Himself to Job and Elihu were not they Gentiles And had not the Samaritans the Spirit of God in the Days of Christ's Flesh as well as we have it now And was God not to be worshipped in his own Spirit then as Christ said to the Woman of Samaria And in pag. 12 of your Book you say that Christ's Blood had a Testimony in it towards the Remission of Sins So then according to your own words there was no real Remission of Sin by Christ's Blood that was shed upon the Ground Then I would desire to know what benefit the Gentiles have by that Blood if they had not real Remission of Sins by Christ's Blood that was shed upon the Cross without he Gates of Jerusalem And in pag. 13 of your Book you say that I do not tell you by whom Eve conceived the Man of Sin who was the Son of Perdition But now I will tell you by whom Eve conceived it was by the Serpent who had a Conception in her Soul when his Temptation entred her and the same Spirit of Darkness that brought Death over her hath brought Death over us we having been the Children of Adam and Eve in the Fall and having been captivated by the same Spirit of Darkness as they were And you also write against me because I said there are two Christs Now did not the true Christ say that there shall be false Christs and they are the Sons of Perdition who are one with the Spirit of Antichrist And are there not two Spirits two Powers two Gods two Princes two Mysteries And is not the one Light and the other Darkness The one is called the true Christ and the other is the false Christ which is Antichrist And yet they bear all one Name in Words although they be different in Works And you also say that I do directly oppose the Scripture to say that Christ came not of David nor Israel Now the words in my Book pag. 23 run thus Now Christ be neither came of David nor yet of Israel according to the Flesh not as to his outward appearance as he was a visible Man but he came of David and Israel both according to the Spirit And in the 18 Page of my Book it is written thus Now Christ he was not the Son of David by generation from David as he was a visible Man for Mary she was a Virgin and
God to an enjoyment of God who is Invisible and these are the Members of the Church in God who are only known to God and not Man and such are the Members of the true Church that is in God And in every Nation Those that fear God and work Righteousness are accepted of God and those that are accepted of God such are at Unity with the Spirit of God in their own particulars and those are the Members of the Church in God let them be either Barbarians Sythians Bond or Free for the Church of God is Universal as the Spirit of God is Universal so that in every Nation People Language or Tongue those that walk according to the Law written in the Heart such are at Unity and Peace with God But now there are many Visible Separations in the World which are called Churches who do not know whether they be in God or no and these are the false Churches who make a Profession of him and yet know him not And Gods appearance to them is as their Judg and Condemner Now Friends Christ he is the only Head of that Body or Church that is in God and I am sure that those only attend upon the Spirits teaching that is within them for God is able to teach his Church that is in him better than you can although there were a thousand times more of you then there are Now many of you have been Watch-men of the Night to inform People of their Darkness and also to direct them to the Light But remember what Solomon saith who was but a little past the Watchman of the Night and then he saw him whom his Soul loved Now the Church in God they are past all Visible Counsellors and all Fathers yea all Judges for they are come to God the Judg of all And to the wonderful Counsellor the everlasting Father and the Prince of Peace Now I owne my self a Member of that Church in God that gives all Authority and Superiority and Subjection both to God and Christ her Husband For the Church in God is compared to a Woman cloathed with the Sun and the Church is also compared to a Mans Wife that lives in Subjection to her own Husband and is willing to owne him to be her Head and so doth every true Member that lives in God Now the Church consists of Souls and Bodies who are truly subject to the higher Powers as Paul saith Now your Image and Paper of Orders that may serve those Quakers who are unstable and delight to gad abroad from God and Christ their Husband within but it can never be owned by the Church in God by such who are faithful to God who as a chast Virgin delights to keep with her Husband at home Now Friends I would desire to know what People or Congregation of these called Quakers it was that did impower you or set you at work to make them a Paper of Orders or a Rule or Guide for them to walk by or was it not a thing of your own Invention and if some had not seen an evil in your carved Image and so put a stop to it before it came to its Journeys end it had not lain hid so long as it hath done already if you could have found out a way to have set it up sooner for you intended that it should have gone to all the Quakers Meetings but now your work goes on apace the words that run round about this Image are these They that are unreconciled to the Church are unreconciled to God and also those that are not justified by the Witness of God in Friends are condemned of it in themselves And about this Image here danceth those that call themselves wise Men and Prophets Judges and Counsellors Fathers and Sons of God Elders and Ministers who are at work to set up this Idol upon its Feet But if it be true what those say who call themselves Elders and Ministers and Sons of God and that they are the only true Church in God and that none are like to be justified of God or reconciled to God in their own particulars but those who own them to be the only true Church in God and so bow down and Worship their Image which they have set up and they are resolved shall stand upon its Feet Then it will be sad for all the Sons and Daughters of Adam who do not owne and Worship this Image For if it be true as you say then it will be a thing of necessity for all People to enquire after this Image that so they may come and worship it because those that have set it up say that God hath given his Power to the Church and the Power that they say they have received from God it is both to justify and also to judg of Errors then this Church must needs be as Infallible as God is So that there is no People shall need to fear their being led into Error if they believe as the Church believes and own the Image which they have set up which is their Paper of Orders and the rest of their Inventions then such by them shall be admitted to Preach according to the Faith of the Church and this is Pope-like who hath set up his Image the Mass-book for the Kings and Princes and their Subjects as a Rule for them to walk by Now every breaking forth of the Light or dawning of the day of God within those in whom this day have dawned they in the Light that hath appeared have seen many of the Errors that were in the World among those called Churches both as to their Doctrines and Practices but their Souls not abiding Humble and Low in the Spirit of God which appeared in their Understandings and gave them a true sight of things but having gone out from God in their own particulars and then those heaps of Teachers they have set up an Image of their own invention as you have done and their Souls have been so blinded and their Understandings so darkned by the Spirit of Error that they could never discern any evil that there was in their own Image that they have set up by their own inventions Let this thing be taken into Consideration by those that call themselves Ministers and Elders Now your Book saith in page the seventh That these that are unreconciled to the Church are unreconciled to God but the Scripture saith that God was in Christ reconciling the World to himself And again your Image or Paper of Orders declares That he that is not Justified by the witness of God in Friends is Condemned of it in himself But the Scripture saith He that believeth hath the witness in himself And if Gods witness in a Man justifies a Man his Witness and Justification is greater then yours so that the words of your Image are false and contrary to the Scripture and form of sound Words Friends you should do well if you can to vindicate both your Doctrines and Practices