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A67648 Dr. Stillingfleet still against Dr. Stillingfleet, or, The examination of Dr. Stillingfleet against Dr. Stillingfleet examined by J.W. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1675 (1675) Wing W910; ESTC R34719 108,236 297

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of_o their_o religion_n and_o consequent_o upon_o that_o account_n be_v no_o less_o excusable_a from_o damnation_n than_o they_o say_v we_o be_v beside_o catholic_n do_v not_o affirm_v that_o those_o protestant_n who_o be_v in_o a_o condition_n not_o capable_a of_o malice_n as_o mere_a fool_n madman_n and_o child_n be_v more_o liable_a to_o damnation_n than_o catholic_n of_o the_o same_o condition_n yet_o far_a we_o never_o assert_v that_o this_o proposition_n protestant_n be_v damn_v have_v more_o truth_n in_o it_o than_o this_o idolater_n be_v damn_v and_o consequent_o it_o be_v as_o true_a that_o a_o protestant_n may_v be_v save_v as_o that_o a_o idolater_n may_v be_v save_v neither_o do_v we_o deny_v but_o protestant_n may_v be_v save_v if_o they_o repent_v where_o then_o be_v the_o difference_n between_o their_o charity_n and_o we_o that_o may_v give_v they_o any_o cause_n of_o vapour_a in_o fine_a if_o thing_n be_v well_o consider_v it_o will_v manifest_o appear_v that_o protestant_n damn_v more_o catholic_n than_o catholic_n do_v protestant_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o there_o be_v at_o least_o twenty_o roman-catholic_n in_o the_o world_n for_o one_o protestant_n of_o the_o english_a church_n with_o which_o be_v our_o present_a debate_n now_o since_o they_o affirm_v that_o scarce_o any_o catholic_n be_v save_v let_v we_o put_v the_o case_n that_o only_o one_o in_o twenty_o be_v save_v and_o all_o the_o rest_n be_v damn_v according_a to_o this_o computation_n they_o damn_v nineteen_o where_o we_o damn_v one_o suppose_v that_o we_o damn_v all_o protestant_n or_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v damn_v if_o they_o continue_v in_o that_o profession_n and_o they_o scarce_o save_v any_o chatholick_n or_o believe_v he_o to_o be_v save_v if_o he_o live_v and_o die_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n so_o that_o concern_v the_o damnation_n or_o salvation_n of_o contrary_a party_n we_o have_v more_o reason_n to_o glory_n of_o our_o charity_n than_o they_o and_o hence_o evident_o appear_v the_o inanity_n of_o their_o pretend_a charity_n which_o they_o often_o cast_v in_o our_o tooth_n this_o be_v a_o common_a topick_n whence_o they_o have_v frame_v many_o sermon_n and_o discourse_n against_o we_o yet_o i_o can_v deny_v but_o that_o the_o charity_n of_o dr._n st._n be_v enhance_v to_o a_o high_a degree_n for_o he_o have_v make_v the_o bound_n of_o the_o true_a church_n so_o wide_o that_o it_o contain_v not_o only_o the_o most_o notorious_a heretic_n but_o also_o the_o great_a idolater_n be_v it_o not_o therefore_o very_o ill_o do_v of_o i_o to_o make_v so_o bad_a a_o use_n of_o so_o wonderful_a a_o charity_n and_o all_o this_o he_o do_v out_o of_o his_o exceed_a great_a kindness_n for_o protestant_a religion_n and_o because_o he_o can_v find_v a_o way_n how_o to_o bring_v she_o within_o the_o verge_n of_o the_o true_a church_n without_o let_v in_o with_o her_o the_o gross_a idolater_n of_o the_o world_n both_o in_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n but_o whether_o protestant_n will_v think_v themselves_o bind_v to_o render_v the_o dr._n thanks_o for_o his_o excess_n of_o his_o charity_n i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o learned_a and_o zealous_a man_n among_o they_o one_o step_n only_o be_v want_v to_o make_v this_o charity_n perfect_a indeed_o and_o that_o be_v to_o enlarge_v the_o pale_a of_o the_o true_a church_n so_o far_o as_o that_o it_o may_v take_v in_o flat_a atheist_n which_o he_o may_v do_v with_o as_o much_o ease_n as_o he_o do_v other_o thing_n in_o the_o page_n 19_o 20_o 21_o 22._o he_o mingle_v many_o thing_n which_o do_v not_o tend_v to_o prove_v that_o he_o do_v not_o contradict_v himself_o which_o be_v the_o proper_a subject_n in_o this_o second_o part_n of_o his_o answer_n but_o only_o that_o on_o supposition_n he_o shall_v contradict_v himself_o in_o the_o way_n i_o insist_v upon_o yet_o this_o will_v not_o be_v a_o satisfactory_a answer_n nor_o annul_v the_o reason_n he_o produce_v in_o order_n to_o make_v good_a the_o charge_n he_o lay_v against_o we_o all_o which_o have_v be_v already_o answer_v above_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o our_o reply_n as_o concern_v his_o vindication_n from_o self-contradiction_n he_o say_v pag._n 20_o 21_o that_o by_o grant_v we_o a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o charge_v we_o with_o idolatry_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o he_o contradict_v himself_o but_o the_o only_a true_a consequence_n be_v that_o he_o think_v some_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n consistent_a with_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n for_o what_o shadow_n of_o contradiction_n be_v it_o they_o be_v the_o dr.'s_n word_n pag._n 21._o to_o say_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n suppose_v he_o believe_v some_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n which_o be_v very_o sinful_a not_o to_o be_v yet_o of_o so_o high_a a_o nature_n as_o to_o unchurch_n those_o that_o practise_v it_o a_o strange_a answer_n so_o that_o if_o one_o have_v so_o good_a a_o opinion_n of_o himself_o and_o who_o have_v not_o as_o to_o believe_v or_o think_v that_o what_o he_o affirm_v be_v in_o some_o sort_n consistent_a with_o what_o he_o deny_v let_v he_o affirm_v or_o deny_v what_o he_o please_v according_a to_o this_o admirable_a evasion_n of_o dr._n stillingfleet_n he_o will_v be_v free_a from_o self-contradiction_n whoever_o join_v two_o term_n that_o real_o contradict_v one_o another_o whatever_o he_o think_v he_o commit_v a_o contradiction_n shall_v one_o affirm_v another_o to_o be_v a_o notorious_a traitor_n but_o yet_o a_o loyal_a subject_n which_o be_v the_o instance_n above_o insinuate_v can_v the_o dr._n prudent_o say_v in_o this_o case_n that_o such_o a_o person_n do_v not_o contradict_v himself_o but_o that_o the_o only_a true_a consequence_n that_o hence_o may_v be_v infer_v be_v that_o he_o think_v some_o sort_n of_o notorious_a treason_n to_o be_v consistent_a with_o loyalty_n or_o can_v he_o just_o exclaim_v what_o shadow_n of_o contradiction_n be_v it_o to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v a_o notorious_a traitor_n but_o yet_o a_o loyal_a subject_n suppose_v that_o who_o say_v this_o believe_v some_o sort_n of_o treason_n though_o very_o notorious_a not_o to_o be_v yet_o of_o so_o high_a a_o nature_n as_o to_o destroy_v loyalty_n neither_o shall_v the_o dr._n have_v suppose_v pag._n 22._o as_o he_o do_v but_o prove_v that_o the_o idolatry_n introduce_v by_o jeroborm_n among_o the_o israelite_n be_v not_o destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n several_a protestant_n among_o other_o precedent_n produce_v the_o church_n of_o israel_n infect_v with_o the_o idolatry_n of_o jeroboam_n to_o show_v that_o the_o true_a visible_a church_n may_v cease_v and_o consequent_o they_o believe_v the_o church_n of_o israel_n to_o have_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o idolatry_n she_o commit_v otherwise_o they_o can_v never_o have_v make_v use_n of_o the_o say_a instance_n to_o that_o intent_n and_o according_o they_o look_v upon_o that_o idolatry_n as_o destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n for_o how_o can_v a_o church_n cease_v to_o be_v true_a upon_o the_o account_n of_o a_o idolatry_n not_o destructive_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n yea_o the_o apostle_n rom._n 11._o do_v not_o obscure_o insinuate_v that_o the_o idolatry_n practise_v by_o the_o israelite_n do_v unchurch_n they_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o all_o infect_a therewith_o for_o god_n tell_v elias_n when_o he_o complain_v that_o he_o be_v leave_v alone_o in_o israel_n that_o seven_o thousand_o of_o they_o have_v not_o bow_v their_o knee_n unto_o baal_n the_o evasion_n produce_v hitherto_o by_o the_o dr._n be_v as_o we_o have_v see_v ineffectual_a to_o clear_v he_o from_o self-contradiction_n and_o such_o as_o have_v they_o any_o force_n in_o they_o will_v prove_v it_o impossible_a that_o any_o one_o shall_v contradict_v himself_o especial_o if_o he_o believe_v he_o do_v not_o which_o be_v evident_o false_a so_o that_o the_o dr._n to_o show_v himself_o guiltless_a of_o self-contradiction_n take_v the_o same_o way_n as_o if_o to_o prove_v himself_o a_o honest_a man_n he_o shall_v allege_v no_o better_a reason_n than_o such_o as_o prove_v if_o they_o prove_v any_o thing_n that_o there_o have_v never_o be_v nor_o be_v any_o knave_n in_o the_o world_n but_o that_o all_o be_v and_o have_v be_v honest_a man_n but_o this_o be_v a_o common_a artifice_n of_o dr._n st._n so_o that_o he_o may_v produce_v any_o argument_n that_o seem_v to_o prove_v his_o intent_n he_o care_v not_o whatever_o else_o they_o prove_v with_o the_o same_o force_n and_o so_o he_o may_v shoot_v home_o he_o matter_n not_o how_o much_o he_o over_o shoot_v himself_o though_o one_o may_v miss_v as_o much_o of_o the_o
rather_o very_o often_o suppose_v it_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v embrace_v the_o ancient_a creed_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n wherefore_o even_o according_a to_o dr._n st.'s_n constitution_n of_o a_o true_a church_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v necessary_o such_o pag._n 26._o he_o say_v we_o have_v no_o controversy_n with_o they_o catholic_n about_o the_o essential_a doctrine_n of_o religion_n which_o be_v that_o we_o mean_v by_o their_o be_v a_o true_a church_n final_o pag._n 33._o and_o in_o other_o place_n the_o dr._n distinguish_v between_o the_o essence_n and_o soundness_n of_o a_o church_n and_o he_o several_a time_n grant_v that_o our_o church_n hold_v all_o that_o be_v requisite_a to_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n but_o he_o deny_v that_o she_o hold_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o soundness_n of_o a_o church_n neither_o do_v i_o ever_o allege_v dr._n st._n to_o the_o contrary_a as_o above_o i_o insinuate_v hence_o be_v evident_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v the_o unquestionable_a sentiment_n of_o dr._n st._n that_o the_o roman_a church_n even_o as_o it_o be_v now_o in_o the_o world_n be_v a_o true_a church_n retain_v all_o the_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a point_n of_o christian_a faith_n all_o which_o i_o have_v say_v not_o because_o dr._n st._n do_v ever_o deny_v it_o but_o because_o some_o of_o his_o friend_n can_v scarce_o believe_v that_o he_o who_o have_v endeavour_v with_o all_o his_o strength_n to_o prove_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n shall_v notwithstanding_o hold_v she_o to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n see_v more_o concern_v this_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o book_n pag._n 40_o 41_o 42._o wherefore_o since_o it_o can_v be_v question_v but_o that_o dr._n st._n have_v heretofore_o and_o do_v still_o allow_v these_o two_o proposition_n the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o idolatrous_a church_n we_o come_v now_o to_o examine_v whether_o the_o 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inconsistent_a for_o it_o be_v certain_a this_o erroneous_a judgement_n there_o be_v no_o god_n do_v not_o destroy_v the_o truth_n of_o its_o contradictory_n there_o be_v a_o god_n nor_o in_o that_o he_o who_o give_v a_o assent_n to_o the_o one_o part_n can_v possible_o at_o the_o same_o time_n give_v his_o assent_n to_o the_o contrary_a part_n otherwise_o it_o will_v not_o be_v possible_a for_o any_o one_o to_o contradict_v himself_o which_o be_v manifest_o false_a as_o dr._n st._n himself_o do_v too_o too_o well_o know_v the_o forementioned_a inconsistency_n therefore_o consist_v in_o the_o repugnancy_n in_o order_n to_o the_o truth_n of_o both_o proposition_n together_o and_o at_o the_o same_o time_n or_o in_o that_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o one_o necessary_o destroy_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o other_o so_o that_o if_o the_o error_n which_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o a_o fundamental_a truth_n shall_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o error_n the_o contrary_a truth_n will_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o 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