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A31661 A dialogue between a pædo-baptist and an anti-pædo-baptist containing the strength of arguments offered on both sides at the Portsmouth disputation, with the addition of a few more arguments then ready to be offered in vindication of infant baptism / by Samuel Chandler and William Leigh. Chandler, Samuel.; Leigh, William. 1699 (1699) Wing C1931; ESTC R35977 16,321 29

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Persons as such whether they believe or no. But this Holiness descends from Believers as Believers and therefore it cannot be Legitimacy 2. I deny that ever the word Holy is so used in all the New-Testament tho we have it many hundred times and therefore you force this Sense upon it to serve a Turn 3. If Legitimacy were meant then the Apostle would speak false The Words would run thus If the unbelieving Wife be not Sanctified by the believing Husband your Children would be Bastards No their being Husband and Wife would secure their Children from Bastardy Nay and then all the Idolaters and Murderers in the World if Legitimate would be Holy Anti-P But Holiness is not a ground of Baptism if it were then Horses Bells must be Baptized c. Zech. 12. 20. P. Bapt. When you can shew that Bells were once Church-Members that they have Immortal Souls capable of Pardon through the Blood and Merits of Christ of going to Heaven c. then we will baptize Bells too Anti-P But Children are Pure or Holy as all things else that a Believer hath are pure i. e. for Enjoyment To the Pure all things are Pure P. Bapt. Then I am sure Legitimacy is not here meant because if a Person that hath a Bastard be Converted and he truly Penitent that Bastard is also Sanctified to his Enjoyment because all things are But you ought to shew that Pure and Holy are the same Holy doth imply a dedication to God But Meat which the Apostle there speaks of might be clean as many Creatures under the Law which yet were not dedicated to God In short the word Holy is taken as commonly it is in other Places and it includes a visible separation for God and Relation to him Thus the Body of Israel and afterward of a Gospel-Church are called Holy in many Places Arg. 2. From Acts 2. 39. The Promise is to you and to your Children c. This Promise the Infants of Penitent Persons have a right to therefore they have a right to Baptism v. 38. Be Baptized c. Anti-P The Context doth exclude Infants from the Promise and therefore from Baptism The Promise is confin'd to those that the Lord shall Call P. Bapt. If 't were so then Peter just upon receiving extraordinary Wisdom from Heaven would speak Impertinently Whereas he says The Promise is to you and to your children and to all that are afar off even to as many as the Lord our God shall call He might have left out their Children and they would easily have understood that their Children if once called should be comprehended in those words As many as the Lord shall call And farther supposing your Sense to be true this Paraphrase may justly be put on the Words You grown Jews and ye Gentiles when Called have a right to Church-Privileges but your poor Infants who for many hundred Years past have had the same are now through the gracious efficacy of Christ's Death strip'd of it tho they poor Hearts never did the least to forfeit it Do you think this would have been a good Plaister for their wounded Hearts And can we imagine that neither these nor any tender Parents of all the Jewish Converts would have put in the least Plea to God or Man on the behalf of their poor abject Infants or if they had that the Scripture would have quite buried it in Silence when we have their Contests about Circumcising Infants Recorded Anti-P But Children are not impertinently mention'd for the Jews had brought the guilt of Christ's Blood upon their Children as well as themselves His Blood be on us and our Children He drops a word of Comfort to them with relation to these Children P. Bapt. Yes all these Children and therefore their poor Infants on whom they had brought the Curse as well as an those of riper Years Say they His blood be upon our children whom we have a right in and are concerned for This they spake to spit their Venom against Christ And the Apostle chargeth these Jews with it v. 23. 36. Now the Apostle makes the Plaister as broad as the Wound and assures them That upon their Repentance the Promise and therefore Church-Privileges would belong to their Children with themselves even all on whom they brought the Curse Supposing the Church-Membership of our Infants to be the main thing opposed by you I offer this Argument to prove it Arg. 3. The Infants of converted Jews were not cast out of God's Church therefore the Infants of converted Gentiles are not kept out I prove that God did not cast out the former therefore neither doth he keep out the latter Arg. 1. God did not cast out those Infants in Judgment to them nor in Mercy therefore not at all Not in Judgment For how is it consistent with Infinite Grace to inflict so great a Judgment as deprivation of Church-membership on those who never did the least to Forfeit it themselves and whose Parents are God's peculiar Favourites Nor yet in Mercy to those Infants for how could he in Mercy deprive them of so great a Blessing except he gave them a greater in its room But where 's that greater Blessing vouchsafed to Infants 2. Not one Privilege of the Covenant of Grace was ever taken away by the death of Christ in whom all the Promises were Yea and Amen Therefore the Church-membership of Jewish Infants was not taken away by the Death of Christ And if not by his Death then not at all I prove That Church-membership is a Privilege of the Covenant of Grace It must be of the Covenant of Grace or of Works but it cannot be of Works therefore it must be of Grace No other Covenant but that of Grace hath set up a Church in the World since the Fall of Man or admitted any into it Anti-P Have all Church-Members then a right to the Covenant of Grace P. Bapt. They have a Visible right to it We ought so in Charity to judge while they are rightful Members None could justly Exclude those Jewish Infants that were regularly Circumcised from a visible Right to the Promises of the Covenant of Grace Because Circumcision made them Debtors to the whole Ceremonial Law Gal. 5. 3. And God never yet divided the Promises from the Precepts of that Law and these together made up the Covenant of Grace Those who are visibly under the preceptive part of this Covenant have visibly a right to the promissive part of it But the Jewish Infants were to be manag'd by it and as they grew up obedient to it and so were under the preceptive part of it Therefore c. Now if no part of the Covenant of Grace and so neither this Privilege which the Infants of the Jewish Converts had were ever taken away then such Converts were never cast out of Gods's Church upon Christ his Death or their Parents Believing And from hence We may conclude 2. That the Infants of Gentile Converts are