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A30650 A vindicaton of churches, commonly called Independent, or, A briefe answer to two books the one, intituled, Twelve considerable serious questions, touching church-government, the other, Independency examined, unmasked, refuted, &c. : both lately published by William Prinne ... / Henry Burton ... Burton, Henry, 1578-1648. 1644 (1644) Wing B6176; ESTC R20892 61,118 78

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