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&c._n which_o we_o receive_v from_o the_o church_n that_o go_v before_o we_o assure_v it_o be_v reveal_v by_o god_n upon_o the_o bare_a word_n of_o luther_n calvin_n knox_n or_o the_o â—2_n person_n that_o make_v the_o ritual_a and_o pretend_v to_o reform_v in_o edward_n the_o vi_o time_n the_o sacrament_n both_o in_o matter_n form_n and_o number_n what_o sign_n or_o miracle_n do_v they_o show_v for_o their_o extraordinary_a mission_n and_o apostleship_n of_o reform_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n if_o any_o man_n who_o receive_v his_o land_n by_o inheritance_n from_o his_o ancestor_n ought_v not_o to_o part_v with_o it_o if_o not_o force_v by_o better_a evidence_n than_o his_o own_o how_o can_v we_o part_v with_o our_o faith_n and_o sense_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o all_o our_o supernatural_a inheritance_n and_o happiness_n until_o protestant_n show_v a_o better_a title_n than_o the_o inheritance_n or_o continual_a succession_n of_o our_o doctrine_n from_o the_o apostle_n they_o must_v produce_v better_a evidence_n than_o their_o pretend_a clearness_n of_o scripture_n if_o they_o laugh_v at_o quaker_n notwithstanding_o all_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n which_o they_o have_v at_o their_o finger_n end_n against_o protestant_a doctrine_n how_o do_v they_o imagine_v do_v catholic_n look_v upon_o the_o first_o pretend_v reformer_n one_o advantage_n these_o new_a quaker_n have_v against_o all_o protestant_n which_o protestant_n have_v not_o against_o catholic_n and_o it_o be_v that_o a_o new_a quaker_n may_v say_v with_o truth_n to_o a_o old_a or_o new_a protestant_n he_o have_v as_o prudent_a ground_n and_o as_o good_a evidence_n for_o his_o own_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o religion_n as_o the_o protestant_n have_v for_o he_o their_o fancy_n the_o only_a ground_n of_o both_o their_o faith_n be_v much_o alike_o and_o their_o mission_n be_v not_o warrant_v by_o any_o precedent_a church_n this_o the_o protestant_n can_v not_o object_v against_o catholic_n because_o we_o have_v always_o the_o word_n and_o warrant_v of_o a_o precedent_n visible_a church_n for_o our_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o religion_n chap._n ix_o whether_o any_o puritanical_a congregation_n be_v the_o catholic_n church_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o pretend_a spirit_n 1_o there_o not_o a_o tradesman_n or_o simple_a woman_n among_o the_o pure_a sort_n of_o protestant_n who_o do_v not_o imagine_v themselves_o to_o be_v more_o infallible_a in_o interpret_n scripture_n than_o the_o pope_n and_o all_o the_o general_a counsel_n together_o this_o infallibility_n they_o attribute_v to_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n which_o they_o all_o pretend_v to_o have_v but_o this_o fond_a imagination_n be_v as_o easy_o refute_v as_o the_o clearness_n of_o scripture_n have_v be_v in_o the_o former_a chap._n because_o every_o pure_a protestant_n or_o puritan_n pretend_v to_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n but_o that_o spirit_n contradict_v itself_o according_o the_o diversity_n of_o tenet_n which_o the_o pure_o inspire_a hold_n it_o be_v impossible_a it_o shall_v be_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n who_o can_v not_o inspire_v contradiction_n yet_o they_o be_v so_o obstinate_a that_o its_o impossible_a to_o persuade_v they_o to_o the_o contrary_a though_o you_o may_v clear_o convince_v they_o the_o pope_n must_v be_v antichrist_n catholic_n king_n the_o horn_n of_o the_o beast_n &_o religious_a order_n rag_n of_o rome_n wherewith_o the_o whore_n of_o babylon_n adorn_v herself_o the_o puritan_n must_v only_o be_v the_o elect_n the_o saint_n and_o pure_a zealot_n of_o the_o beauteous_a discipline_n of_o zion_n which_o to_o carry_v on_o though_o whole_a nation_n be_v extirpate_v their_o holy_a spirit_n do_v not_o only_o rid_v they_o from_o any_o remorse_n of_o conscience_n but_o assure_v they_o no_o work_n can_v be_v more_o meritorious_a if_o you_o inquire_v of_o they_o how_o they_o know_v whether_o this_o spirit_n of_o they_o be_v good_a or_o bad_a of_o god_n or_o the_o devil_n calvin_n their_o patriarch_n and_o master_n answer_v that_o they_o do_v discern_v it_o as_o clear_o as_o they_o do_v white_a from_o black_a sweet_a from_o sour_a and_o light_n from_o darkness_n his_o proof_n be_v the_o experience_n and_o testimony_n of_o every_o one_o of_o the_o faithful_a brethren_n concern_v the_o pureness_n of_o his_o own_o spirit_n 2_o this_o calvinisticall_a and_o private_a spirit_n be_v so_o hide_v and_o undiscernible_a can_v not_o be_v a_o sufficient_a and_o prudent_a ground_n at_o least_o for_o any_o man_n that_o have_v it_o not_o to_o believe_v it_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n and_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n man_n who_o be_v not_o in_o the_o true_a church_n must_v be_v lead_v into_o it_o by_o some_o credit_n and_o exterior_a sign_n and_o though_o faith_n be_v a_o gift_n of_o god_n yet_o it_o be_v communicate_v by_o preach_v and_o hear_v rom._n 10._o we_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o god_n must_v help_v all_o catholic_n interiorly_a with_o his_o supernatural_a grace_n and_o spirit_n but_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o puritan_n and_o catholic_n spirit_n be_v that_o the_o puritan_n spirit_n inspire_v a_o belief_n contrary_n to_o reason_n the_o catholic_n spirit_n inspire_v a_o belief_n non_fw-fr contrary_a but_o agreeable_a to_o reason_n though_o christian_a faith_n be_v above_o reason_n it_o be_v not_o unreasonable_a but_o it_o can_v not_o be_v agreeable_a to_o reason_n that_o any_o person_n believe_v a_o puritanical_a spirit_n without_o any_o more_o proof_n of_o the_o goodness_n of_o it_o than_o a_o puritan_n word_n against_o a_o sense_n of_o scripture_n which_o have_v be_v continue_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o the_o primitive_a time_n as_o be_v evident_a by_o tradition_n testimony_n of_o father_n and_o acknowledge_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n century_n and_o other_o protestant_a writer_n therefore_o the_o private_a spirit_n can_v not_o be_v a_o sufficient_a proposal_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n or_o a_o credible_a and_o convince_a sign_n of_o the_o true_a church_n
though_o the_o church_n can_v not_o its_o testimony_n ought_v to_o be_v believe_v many_o clown_n who_o unanimous_o say_v they_o have_v see_v a_o eclyps_n or_o extravagant_a inundation_n of_o the_o sea_n deserve_v credit_n though_o they_o be_v no_o philosopher_n or_o mathematician_n and_o consequent_o can_v not_o give_v any_o clear_a reason_n of_o a_o eclyp_v etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o testimony_n of_o catholic_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v concern_v transubstantiation_n or_o any_o other_o mystery_n though_o they_o can_v not_o give_v clear_a reason_n for_o it_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o they_o to_o recurre_v to_o god_n omnipotency_n 7_o but_o how_o say_a protestant_n can_v we_o be_v call_v heretic_n or_o obstinate_a if_o we_o be_v content_a to_o submit_v our_o judgement_n and_o believe_v what_o be_v sufficient_o propose_v as_o god_n revelation_n we_o only_o deny_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v propose_v sufficient_o as_o god_n revelation_n their_o decree_n in_o the_o counsel_n of_o trent_n and_o lateran_n etc._n etc._n to_o this_o i_o have_v answer_v in_o the_o three_o chap._n and_o now_o again_o do_v affirm_v that_o there_o be_v no_o prince_n who_o do_v propose_v his_o command_n and_o sense_n concern_v any_o matter_n more_o sufficient_o by_o his_o subordinate_a minister_n than_o god_n do_v his_o word_n and_o sense_n of_o scripture_n by_o the_o roman_a church_n because_o there_o have_v not_o be_v only_o a_o continual_a succession_n of_o this_o doctrine_n we_o profess_v from_o the_o primitive_a church_n to_o this_o present_a which_o neither_o the_o greek_a church_n 9_o see_v chap._n 9_o nor_o any_o other_o can_v pretend_v to_o have_v change_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n more_o than_o once_o but_o because_o there_o do_v appear_v such_o evident_a sign_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v appoint_v by_o god_n to_o declare_v to_o all_o the_o world_n the_o true_a faith_n and_o sense_n of_o scripture_n that_o it_o must_v be_v obstinacy_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n to_o doubt_v of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n proposal_n and_o testimony_n first_o the_o conversion_n of_o nation_n by_o roman_a catholic_n in_o all_o part_n of_o the_o world_n be_v evident_a second_o no_o other_o church_n do_v pretend_v to_o miracle_n but_o we_o alone_o three_o we_o hear_v of_o no_o eminent_a sanctity_n confirm_v by_o prophecy_n and_o other_o supernatural_a sign_n in_o any_o church_n but_o in_o we_o four_o there_o be_v no_o unity_n peace_n or_o end_n of_o controversy_n but_o among_o we_o all_o submit_v our_o judgement_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n to_o any_o general_a council_n approve_v by_o the_o pope_n five_o no_o church_n have_v continual_a tradition_n and_o succession_n of_o doctrine_n but_o we_o roman_a catholic_n 8_o all_o these_o sign_n be_v mark_n of_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n and_o be_v so_o obvious_a to_o our_o sense_n that_o idiot_n may_v take_v notice_n of_o they_o if_o they_o will_v but_o inquire_v and_o spend_v as_o much_o time_n in_o that_o as_o in_o read_v the_o history_n of_o their_o own_o country_n or_o of_o inform_v themselves_o of_o their_o ancestor_n this_o be_v the_o true_a reason_n why_o no_o protestant_n can_v pretend_v ignorance_n of_o the_o true_a church_n nor_o rely_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o their_o minister_n if_o they_o inquire_v not_o they_o will_v be_v damn_v for_o be_v ignorant_a if_o after_o due_a inquiry_n make_v they_o become_v not_o roman_a catholic_n they_o will_v be_v damn_v for_o heresy_n not_o only_o for_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o our_o doctrine_n and_o faith_n but_o also_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o its_o proposal_n he_o be_v a_o rebel_n who_o deny_v that_o the_o accustom_a exterior_a sign_n of_o the_o prince_n commission_n and_o authority_n which_o be_v see_v in_o his_o officer_n be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a proposal_n of_o his_o will_n and_o pleasure_n to_o have_v the_o say_v officer_n obey_v as_o his_o judge_n or_o deputy_n etc._n etc._n i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o same_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v grate_v with_o proportion_n in_o our_o case_n unless_o protestant_n think_v that_o prince_n ought_v to_o be_v more_o respect_v in_o their_o minister_n than_o god_n in_o his_o church_n or_o that_o there_o be_v great_a evidence_n require_v to_o believe_v that_o god_n do_v speak_v by_o his_o church_n then_o to_o believe_v that_o prince_n do_v speak_v by_o their_o subordinate_a minister_n true_o though_o this_o great_a evidence_n be_v require_v protestant_n can_v have_v no_o excuse_n because_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v great_a evidence_n that_o it_o alone_o be_v the_o true_a one_o by_o which_o god_n declare_v and_o speak_v his_o mind_n than_o the_o sign_n of_o any_o magistrate_n in_o a_o commonwealth_n or_o kingdom_n be_v of_o the_o true_a regal_a authority_n of_o the_o say_a magistrate_n by_o which_o king_n and_o prince_n declare_v their_o mind_n to_o the_o subject_n see_v more_o in_o the_o 4._o and_o 5._o chapter_n chap._n xiii_o whether_o any_o protestant_n may_v be_v save_v 1_o though_o protestancy_n be_v heresy_n all_o protestant_n be_v not_o heretic_n there_o be_v a_o difference_n say_v saint_n austin_n between_o heretic_n and_o they_o who_o believe_v heretic_n the_o great_a wit_n may_v be_v misinform_v if_o they_o rely_v upon_o other_o man_n information_n 2_o to_o the_o question_n propose_v i_o answer_v that_o such_o protestant_n as_o never_o have_v any_o occasion_n to_o doubt_v whether_o their_o own_o religion_n be_v the_o true_a one_o may_v be_v save_v if_o they_o never_o commit_v a_o mortal_a sin_n because_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o die_v in_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n which_o they_o receive_v in_o the_o baptism_n now_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o protestant_n who_o never_o commit_v a_o mortal_a sin_n the_o lord_n know_v this_o i_o be_o sure_a of_o that_o there_o be_v very_o few_o in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o world_n who_o have_v not_o great_a reason_n and_o many_o occasion_n to_o doubt_v of_o 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experiment_v by_o person_n of_o know_a integrity_n and_o learning_n able_a to_o discern_v between_o true_a and_o false_a miracle_n otherwise_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n must_v be_v call_v in_o question_n or_o deny_v to_o be_v god_n word_n because_o saint_n thomas_n his_o pretend_a gospel_n or_o nicodemus_n his_o writing_n be_v condemn_v as_o forge_v or_o apocryphal_a that_o no_o reform_a church_n of_o protestant_n can_v have_v lawful_a witness_n to_o propose_v sufficient_o their_o doctrine_n as_o divine_a revelation_n be_v evident_a because_o for_o the_o space_n of_o 1500._o year_n they_o be_v without_o any_o visible_a church_n or_o tradition_n therefore_o their_o witness_n also_o be_v invisible_a and_o by_o consequence_n not_o lawful_a or_o credible_a fox_n and_o other_o make_v a_o certain_a catalogue_n of_o man_n who_o oppose_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o former_a age_n but_o they_o be_v know_v heretic_n and_o do_v neither_o agree_v among_o themselves_o nor_o with_o protestant_n in_o their_o tenet_n or_o religion_n as_o have_v be_v demonstrate_v by_o father_n person_n in_o his_o examination_n of_o fox_n his_o calendar_n and_o by_o many_o other_o 9_o i_o conclude_v therefore_o that_o see_v protestant_n grant_v there_o be_v and_o have_v always_o be_v a_o catholic_n church_n upon_o earth_n and_o that_o church_n must_v have_v lawful_a witness_n testify_v their_o doctrine_n to_o be_v divine_a revelation_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o no_o congregation_n of_o man_n can_v produce_v any_o such_o lawful_a witness_n but_o the_o roman_a catholic_n among_o who_o i_o include_v also_o they_o of_o the_o greek_a church_n who_o agree_v with_o we_o it_o be_v also_o evident_a that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o church_n catholic_n but_o the_o roman_a chap._n xi_o whether_o transubstantiation_n and_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n be_v sufficient_o propose_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n as_o divine_a revelation_n and_o whether_o protestant_n have_v any_o lawful_a exception_n against_o they_o 1_o there_o be_v so_o many_o book_n print_v in_o defence_n of_o these_o catholic_n tenet_n that_o i_o judge_v it_o superfluous_a to_o treat_v of_o they_o ex_fw-la professo_fw-la i_o will_v only_o answer_v some_o exception_n that_o protestant_n have_v make_v against_o they_o to_o myself_o in_o diverse_a occasion_n that_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v propose_v these_o article_n sufficient_o as_o divine_a revelation_n be_v clear_a because_o it_o propose_v they_o by_o the_o same_o testimony_n and_o confirm_v by_o the_o same_z sign_n whereby_o it_o propose_v scripture_n to_o be_v god_n word_n this_o last_o proposal_n protestant_n themselves_o grant_v to_o be_v so_o sufficient_a that_o no_o man_n may_v in_o prudence_n deny_v it_o therefore_o the_o same_o must_v be_v say_v of_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o in_o particular_a of_o transubstantiation_n and_o worship_n of_o image_n 2_o but_o let_v we_o
ourselves_o as_o much_o as_o be_v neceâ—_n sary_a but_o protestant_n stand_v upon_o such_o nice_a term_n witâ—_n god_n and_o the_o church_n that_o if_o they_o come_v not_o short_a of_o whâ—_n be_v necessary_a as_o twenty_o to_o one_o they_o will_v their_o neighbour_n shall_v be_v nothing_o the_o better_a for_o their_o belief_n 2_o i_o may_v urge_v this_o argument_n in_o a_o serious_a way_n and_o uâ—_n home_o if_o this_o be_v its_o proper_a place_n but_o to_o return_v to_o thâ—_n question_n whether_o protestancy_n be_v heresy_n i_o answer_v thâ—_n all_o opinion_n or_o tenet_n whether_o negative_a or_o affirmative_a that_o protestant_n hold_v contrary_a to_o that_o which_o the_o româ—_n catholic_n church_n believe_v as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n be_v hâ—_n resy_n which_o i_o demonstrate_v in_o this_o manner_n whatsoeuâ—_n opinion_n be_v contrary_a to_o any_o doctrine_n sufficient_o propose_v as_o divine_a revelation_n be_v heresy_n but_o all_o protestant_n prper_n tenet_n or_o opinion_n be_v contrary_a to_o some_o doctriâ—_fw-la sufficient_o propose_v as_o divine_a revelation_n therefore_o 〈◊〉_d protestant_n proper_n tenet_n or_o opinion_n be_v heresy_n thâ—_n first_o proposition_n be_v grant_v by_o our_o very_a adversary_n anâ—_n have_v be_v prove_v in_o the_o 3._o and_o 4._o chap._n the_o second_o 〈◊〉_d clear_a by_o what_o may_v be_v borrow_v from_o the_o same_o chapter_n and_o from_o the_o so_o and_o i_o apply_v to_o our_o question_n by_o this_o syâ—_n logisme_n all_o the_o proper_a tener_n of_o protestancy_n be_v coâ—_n trary_a to_o some_o doctrine_n which_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n do_v testify_v to_o be_v divine_a revelation_n that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d have_v be_v reveal_v by_o god_n to_o the_o primitive_a church_n bâ—_n the_o testimony_n of_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n be_v a_o sufâ—_n cient_a proposal_n of_o any_o doctrine_n to_o be_v divine_a revelation_n therefore_o all_o tenet_n or_o opinion_n proper_a to_o protestancy_n be_v contrary_a to_o some_o doctrine_n sufficient_o propose_v divine_a revelation_n 3_o if_o the_o second_o proposition_n of_o this_o last_o syllogism_n argument_n be_v demonstrate_v protestancy_n be_v demonstrate_v â—o_o be_v heresy_n therefore_o i_o prove_v it_o in_o my_o judgement_n â—ery_o clear_o that_o testimony_n be_v a_o sufficient_a proposal_n of_o sod_n reveal_v any_o doctrine_n to_o the_o primitive_a church_n which_o testimony_n be_v confirm_v by_o miracle_n and_o have_v continue_v without_o interruption_n be_v exhibit_v in_o every_o â—ge_n from_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o this_o present_a by_o hoâ—est_n and_o know_v man_n but_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n have_v all_o this_o therefore_o it_o be_v a_o sufficient_a â—toposall_n of_o any_o doctrine_n to_o be_v divine_a revelation_n or_o to_o â—ave_n be_v reveal_v by_o god_n to_o the_o primitive_a church_n that_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v confirm_v by_o â—â—iracles_n even_o in_o those_o very_a point_n of_o doctrine_n wherein_o protestant_n differ_v from_o we_o be_v so_o evident_a that_o no_o prudent_a â—an_v if_o not_o obstinate_a can_v deny_v and_o be_v particular_o prove_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 13._o chap._n for_o how_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o all_o the_o world_n â—as_v i_o say_v before_o shall_v conspire_v to_o abuse_v protestant_n and_o â—amne_v themselves_o by_o feign_v miracle_n and_o that_o not_o only_o in_o this_o age_n but_o in_o every_o age_n since_o the_o primitive_a church_n the_o forge_n of_o some_o be_v no_o prudent_a prose_n that_o â—ll_o be_v forge_v if_o there_o be_v no_o miracle_n in_o the_o roman_a caâ—olick_a church_n in_o confirmation_n of_o transubstantiation_n purgatory_n worship_n of_o image_n etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o faith_n to_o be_v give_v my_o man_n whosoever_o 4_o now_o it_o remain_v only_o to_o be_v prove_v that_o there_o have_v â—een_n a_o continual_a succession_n of_o honest_a and_o learned_a man_n â—f_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o every_o age_n since_o the_o primitive_a church_n to_o this_o present_a who_o do_v bear_v witness_n that_o the_o doctrine_n which_o every_o respective_a former_a age_n deliver_v to_o â—he_n next_o ensue_v and_o we_o believe_v as_o faith_n be_v reveal_v by_o â—od_a to_o the_o first_o christian_n but_o this_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o condemn_a as_o heretic_n all_o those_o who_o in_o any_o age_n hold_v protestant_n tenet_n and_o be_v also_o prove_v in_o the_o 10._o chap._n â—s_v superfluous_a and_o troublesome_a to_o repeat_v it_o here_o again_o whosoever_o desire_v to_o be_v inform_v more_o at_o large_a and_o of_o â—very_n point_n in_o particular_a let_v he_o read_v the_o protestant_a apoâ—gy_n for_o the_o roman_a church_n there_o he_o will_v find_v what_o i_o â—ay_v to_o be_v so_o clear_a that_o our_o very_a learned_a adversary_n be_v force_v to_o acknowledge_v it_o and_o recurre_v to_o that_o old_a and_o desperate_a shift_n of_o heretic_n who_o say_v that_o the_o word_n of_o â—en_n be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v as_o if_o the_o word_n of_o the_o same_o man_n who_o assure_v we_o that_o scripture_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v credible_a in_o that_o but_o in_o nothing_o else_o of_o this_o we_o have_v saiâ—_n enough_o before_o in_o the_o 5._o chap._n 5_o yet_o i_o will_v not_o omit_v to_o argue_v against_o protestant_n aâ—_n saint_a augustin_n do_v against_o jew_n and_o pagan_n with_o that_o inâ—_n genius_n dilemma_n whereof_o i_o make_v mention_n in_o the_o 3._o chap_n either_o the_o first_o learn_v and_o honest_a man_n who_o adore_a thâ—_n bless_a sacrament_n believe_v there_o be_v no_o bread_n in_o it_o worship_v image_n etc._n etc._n do_v see_v miracle_n to_o confirm_v these_o pretend_a novelty_n which_o creep_v in_o as_o protestant_a say_n tâ—_n the_o church_n or_o they_o do_v see_v no_o miracle_n to_o confirm_v they_o if_o they_o do_v see_v miracle_n i_o have_v my_o intent_n if_o they_o do_v seâ—_n none_n i_o have_v also_o my_o intent_n because_o the_o great_a of_o all_o mâ—_n racle_n be_v that_o wise_a and_o learned_a man_n shall_v without_o anâ—_n miracle_n see_v adore_v for_o god_n that_o which_o seem_v to_o be_v piece_n of_o bread_n and_o worship_v a_o statue_n or_o picture_n which_o 〈◊〉_d not_o only_a contrary_n as_o protestant_n say_v to_o clear_a scripture_n but_o also_o to_o common_a sense_n and_o reason_n by_o the_o same_o diego_n emâ—_n man_fw-mi i_o prove_v that_o every_o point_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o catholic_n against_o protestant_n be_v sufficient_o propose_v as_o divinâ—_n revelation_n either_o it_o be_v sufficient_o propose_v to_o the_o firâ—_n christian_n who_o believe_v it_o or_o not_o if_o it_o be_v protestancy_n be_v heresy_n if_o it_o be_v not_o how_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o not_o only_o the_o first_o who_o believe_v or_o teach_v these_o superfluity_n buâ—_n all_o the_o wise_a and_o honest_a man_n of_o the_o world_n for_o many_o age_n before_o the_o pretend_a reformation_n shall_v impose_v upon_o themselves_o unnecessary_a article_n as_o necessary_a and_o thereby_o betray_v posterity_n and_o damn_v themselves_o for_o believe_v thing_n which_o have_v no_o ground_n in_o scripture_n nor_o be_v testiâ—_n fie_v to_o they_o by_o any_o credible_a testimony_n of_o the_o christianâ—_n who_o go_v before_o they_o to_o be_v divine_a revelation_n all_o thaâ—_n protestant_n can_v say_v in_o their_o own_o defence_n have_v be_v conâ—_n fute_v in_o the_o 3.4.7.8_o and_o 9_o chap_n for_o all_o must_v be_v reduceâ—_n to_o three_o head_n 1._o that_o scripture_n and_o father_n be_v cleaâ—_n against_o roman_a catholic_n 2._o that_o the_o private_a spirit_n iâ—_n for_o protestant_n 3._o that_o protestant_n be_v neither_o obstinate_a nor_o heretic_n because_o they_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o god_n reâ—_n veal_v transubstantiation_n purgatory_n etc._n etc._n all_o these_o threâ—_n evasion_n and_o more_o have_v be_v confute_v in_o the_o foreman_n tion_v chapter_n to_o which_o i_o remit_v the_o reader_n 6_o i_o do_v not_o see_v what_o exception_n protestant_n can_v add_v tâ—_n their_o former_a against_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o roman_a cathâ—_n lick_v church_n unless_o they_o say_v i_o that_o it_o be_v not_o make_v anâ—_n thing_n prudent_o credible_a as_o divine_a revelation_n because_o we_o catholic_n can_v not_o make_v appear_v by_o reason_n how_o what_o we_o say_v be_v true_a as_o how_o accident_n can_v be_v without_o their_o proper_a subject_n etc._n etc._n but_o upon_o this_o score_n they_o may_v as_o well_o reject_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o trinity_n incarnation_n as_o transubstantiation_n the_o catholic_n church_n be_v not_o the_o author_n of_o the_o doctrine_n it_o propose_v it_o be_v only_o a_o witness_n as_o christ_n himself_o declare_v when_o he_o send_v the_o apostle_n to_o preach_v you_o shall_v be_v my_o witness_n in_o jerusalem_n etc._n etc._n 1._o act._n 1._o only_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o catholic_n doctrine_n can_v give_v a_o clear_a reason_n of_o some_o mystery_n and_o
enchant_v that_o no_o writer_n have_v the_o use_n of_o his_o finger_n to_o set_v down_o in_o write_v a_o matter_n of_o so_o great_a consequence_n have_v notwithstanding_o the_o free_a use_n of_o their_o pen_n in_o relate_v a_o thousand_o other_o change_n of_o less_o importance_n we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o judge_v that_o former_a age_n be_v less_o vigilant_a and_o careful_a in_o preserve_v the_o purity_n of_o christian_a religion_n and_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n than_o the_o present_n be_v because_o their_o vigilancy_n appear_v by_o their_o suppress_n of_o heresy_n in_o every_o age_n which_o suppression_n and_o protestation_n against_o the_o say_a heresy_n of_o every_o respective_a age_n be_v never_o judge_v or_o condemn_v for_o a_o innovation_n against_o the_o doctrine_n receive_v from_o former_a time_n but_o rather_o be_v a_o confirmation_n of_o it_o so_o that_o the_o exception_n make_v by_o berengarius_fw-la waldo_n and_o other_o such_o person_n against_o roman_a catholic_n do_v rather_o strengthen_v then_o weaken_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n see_v their_o exception_n be_v so_o strong_o and_o constant_o cry_v down_o by_o all_o the_o world_n for_o innovation_n 6_o some_o have_v say_v that_o as_o gray_a hear_v grow_v in_o a_o man_n head_n and_o the_o corruption_n of_o a_o language_n grow_v on_o by_o little_a and_o little_a without_o particular_a notice_n take_v of_o the_o precise_a time_n so_o the_o change_n and_o corruption_n of_o religion_n have_v creep_v in_o insensible_o in_o the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n but_o this_o be_v a_o most_o silly_a similitude_n as_o if_o man_n be_v as_o much_o concern_v to_o watch_v the_o new_a growth_n of_o every_o gray_a hear_v or_o the_o mispronunciation_n of_o every_o word_n as_o the_o pastor_n and_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o all_o christian_n be_v concern_v to_o observe_v the_o beginning_n of_o a_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n or_o as_o if_o this_o be_v no_o more_o observable_a or_o make_v no_o more_o impression_n upon_o man_n mind_n or_o no_o more_o change_n in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n than_o a_o gray_a hair_n in_o a_o man_n head_n or_o a_o odd_a word_n in_o common_a speech_n put_v the_o case_n that_o in_o this_o age_n to_o fertile_a of_o soppery_n some_o great_a and_o considerable_a part_n of_o christianity_n shall_v set_v up_o a_o calf_n to_o be_v adore_v for_o the_o god_n of_o the_o christian_n will_v this_o be_v no_o more_o remarkable_a than_o a_o gray_a hair_n in_o a_o man_n head_n no_o less_o remarkable_a be_v it_o to_o hold_v up_o a_o wafer_n cake_n for_o the_o like_a adoration_n and_o over_o and_o above_o to_o oblige_v people_n to_o swear_v that_o it_o be_v no_o bread_n be_v it_o credible_a or_o possible_a that_o if_o in_o berengarius_fw-la his_o time_n this_o have_v be_v begin_v that_o the_o whole_a world_n will_v not_o have_v cry_v out_o against_o it_o and_o not_o only_o the_o doctor_n out_o of_o scriptue_n but_o the_o very_a child_n 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