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A34212 A missive to His Majesty of Great Britain, King James written divers yeers since by Doctor Carier ; conteining [sic] the motives of his conversion to Catholike religion ; vvith a notable fore-sight of the present distempers both in the church and state of His Majesties dominions, and his advice for the prevention thereof. Carier, Benjamin, 1566-1614.; Strange, N., 17th cent.; James I, King of England, 1566-1625. 1649 (1649) Wing C572; ESTC R8830 50,068 94

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which will not save them from hell nor Superiors be ever told of their Errors but by Rebellion which will not bring them to heaven These such like be the liberties that both Prince People do enjoy by the want of Confession and of Catholike Religion 43. As for the liberty of making Lawes in Church-matters the Common Lawyer may perhaps make an advantage of it and therefore greatly stand upon it but to the common people it is no pleasure at all but rather a great burthen For the great Multitude of Statutes which have been made since the Schisme which are five times more then ever they were before since the name of Parliament was in England hath caused also an infinite number of Lawyers all which must live by the Commons and raise new Families which cannot be done without the decay of the old And if the Canons of the Church and the Courts of Confession were in request the Lawyers market would soon be marred And therefore most of your Lawyers in this point are Puritans do still furnish the Parliament with grievances against the Clergie as knowing very well that their own glory came at the first from the Court Infidell and therefore cannot stand with the Authority of the Church which came at the first from the Court Christian I speak not against the Ancient Lawes of England which since King Ethelberts time were all Catholike nor against the honest Lawyers of England I know many and honour all good men among them and do hope for better times by the learning wisedom moderation of the chiefest But I am verily perswaded that the pretended liberties of the Commons to make Lawes in matter of Religion doth burthen the Common wealth and both prejudice your Majesty and pleasure none at all but the Puritan and petty-fogging Lawyer that would faine fetch the antiquity of his Common Law from the Saxons that were before King Ethelbert So that whether we respect the spirituall instruction and comfort or the temporall wealth and liberty of the Commons of England if the Puritan Preacher and Puritan Lawyer who both do seek the overthrow of the Church and deceive and consume the people would let them alone there would quickly appeare no reason of their Sta●e at all why they should hate the Catholike Church that is so comfortable and beneficiall unto them or maintain the Schisme that with sugred speeches and counterfait faces doth so much abuse them 44. I am therefore in very assured hope that by my coming to the Catholike Church besides the satisfying and saving of my own soule I shall do no ill service to your Majesty neither in respect of your selfe nor your Children nor in respect of your Lords and Commons and that there is no reason concerning the State in any of these that is sufficient to disswade unity There is only the * The Protestant Clergie are now like to find this a true prediction Clergy left which if Calvinisme may go on and prevaile as it doth shall not in the next age be left to be satisfied And there is little reason that any man that loves the Clergie should desire to satisfie such Clergie men as do under hand favour Calvinists and maintain such points of Doctrine as if your Majesties favour were not would out of hand overthrow the Clergie and instead of them set up a few stipendary Preachers 45. There never was is or shall be any well setled State in the world either Christian or Heathen but the Clergie or Priesthood was is and must be a principall part of the Government depending upon none but him only whom they suppose to be their God But where Calvinisme prevailes three or four stipendary Ministers that must preach as it shall please Mr. Mayor and his Brethren may serve for a whole City And indeed if their opinions be true it is but a folly for any State ●o maintain any more For if God hath predistinated a certain Number to be saved without any condition at all of their being in the visible Church by Faith or their persevering therein by good works If God hath reprobated the greatest part of the world without any respect at all of their infidelity heresie or wicked life If the Faith of Christ be nothing els but the assured perswasion of a Man 's own Predestination to glory by him If the Sacraments of the Church be nothing but signes and badges of that grace which a man hath before by the carnall Covenant of his Parents faith If Priesthood can do nothing but preach the Word as they call it which Lay-men must judge of and may preach too if they will where occasion serves If the studie an I knowledge of Antiquity Universality and Consent be not necessary but every man may expound Scripture as his own spirit shall move him If I say these and such like opinions be as true as they are among Calvinists in the world common and in England too much favoured and maintained there will certainly appear no reason at all to your Parliament whensoever your Majesty or your Successor shall please to ask them why they should be at so great a charge as they are to maintain so needlesse a party as these opinions do make the Clergy to be They can have a great many more How right this points upon the Doctrine of these times Sermons a great deale better cheap and in the opinion of Calvinisme the Clergy do no other service They that do in England favour and maintain those opinions and suppresse and disgrace those that do confute them they although themselves can be content to be Lords and go in Rochets are indeed the greatest Enemies of the Clergy And it were no great matter for the Clergy they might easily turn Lay and live as well as they do for the most part But it is a thing full of compassion and commiseration to see that by these false and wicked opinions the Divell the the Father of these and all other lies doth daily take possession of the soules of your Subjects both of Clergy and Laity These kind of Clergy men I confesse I do not desire to satisfie any other way then as I have alwaies done that is by the most friendly and plain confutation of their errors to shew them the truth As for other Clergy men that are conformable to the Religion established by Law as well for their Doctrine as for their Discipline if they be good Schollers and temperate men as I know many of them are they cannot but in their judgements approve the truth of Catholike Religion and if it were not for fear of losse or disgrace to their wives and Children they would be as glad as my selfe that a more temperate course might be held and more liberty afforded unto Catholikes and Catholike Religion in England These Clergy-men I am and ever shall be desirous to satisfie not only in respect of themselves but also in respect of their wives and
A MISSIVE TO His Majesty of Great Britain KING JAMES Written divers yeers since By Doctor CARIER Conteining the Motives of his Conversion to Catholike Religion VVith a notable fore-sight of the present distempers both in the Church and State of His Majesties Dominions And his Advice for the prevention thereof Eructavit cor meum verbum bonum dico ego opera mea Regi Psal 44. First printed at LIEGE and novv re-printed at PARIS VVith some Marginall Notes And a previous Discourse to the like purpose M. DC XLIX To the Reader of what Reformation soever in matters of Religion LIghting casually of late on the ensuing Letter written above thirty yeares ago by one of the most learned of his time among English Divines Doctor Carier Chaplain to King James and sent to His Majesty by him as a justification of his then deserting the Protestant Cause and conversion to the Catholike Church as a submissive testimony of his loyalty to his Soveraigne and as a faithfull Servants advice to his royall Master for his future safety both in this and the world to come I could not but sigh with a groaning Utinam that the King had entertained his suggestion with a more yeelding regard Had he been so happy I dare boldly pronounce the temporall State of his left Kingdome to say nothing of the other world and posterity had not been so deplorable as now with mournfull countenances we are forced to behold it Dr. Carier being a man born and bred from his infancy in the Protestant Profession orderly promoted to his academicall degree and above others indeared to his Prince for his greater proficiency in the literature and principles of the English Church .i. in the grounds of Luther or Calvin or both with others of the late Reformers of the old Christian world fore-saw to what tragicall conclusions their premises did dispose and what Cockatrices would be conuaturally hatch'd out of their eggs when time served to sit long upon them he foresaw they would certainely prove destructive to Church and State where ever they found good acceptance Nor can I say the Doctor was a Prophet by that fore-sight more then he who seeing the heavens over-cast with clouds prognosticates a tempest or he who seeing Gunpowder enough laid under the corner stones of a building and the match fired fore-tells a quick subversion of that Fabrick A man becomes not a Prophet by such a prediction but contrarily he is to be esteemed short-sighted and of little consideration that sees not those necessary effects if he sees the cause Take first for example sake those Doctrines of your first Generall in the late Reformation Luther in his Comments upon S. Paul to the Galat. in his bookes de libertate Christiana and de seculari potestate That Christians are not tied to the observance of the Decalogue but freed by faith from all Laws That among Christians there must be no Superiority That there is no hope of salvation or safety as long as the Common-wealth is governed by humane or civill Lawes That God is to be prayed unto that Magistrates be not obeyed by their Subjects These Doctrines are impugned and execrated by all Catholikes as their Books do every where testifie but take them I say and digest them once for truths and then tell me what sequeles will naturally follow or rather what will not follow tell me if you can to what end Ecclesiasticall or Civill Lawes are enacted what obedience can Princes or Magistrates of either sort expect from those they count their Subjects who scoure in his owne possessions what curb for vice To those points of reforming Doctrine add his scornfull sawcy censure of temporall Princes in the cited book de Seculari Potest Scire debetis quod ab initio Mundi rara admodum avis est princeps prudens ad huc multò rarior Princeps probus sunt communiter maximè fatui ac pessimi nebulones super terram sunt Lictores Carnifices Dei It is a thing that all ought to take notice of that from the beginning of the world a prudent Prince hath been a very rare bird and much rarer a Prince morally honest they are most commonly the veriest fools and greatest knaves on earth they are the Catchpoles and Hangmen of God Whether this proceeding as Doctrine from the mouth and pen of one reputed a reforming Saint be not apt to breed disrespect of Princes in their Subjects and to stir these to disobedience contempt and rebellion against them I appeale to others judgement Adde again his spirited incouragements against Bishops in his Bulla contra ordinem Ecclesiasticum Quicunque opem ferunt saith he corpus bona famam in hoc impendunt ut Episcopatus Devastentur c. And again Evangelium quocunque venit oportet ut tumultuetur nisi id faciat non est verum Whosoever afford their assistance and imploy their strength goods and credit to wast and destroy Bishopricks and to root out Episcopall Government they are the beloved children of God and true Christians obedient to God and resisting the Ordinances of the Devill and on the contrary side whosoever maintaine E-Episcopall Government and obey it they are the Ministers of Satan wheresoever the Gospell comes it must breed tumults unlesse it do so it is a signe it is not the right or true More might be added out of his booke Contra Regem Angliae of his insulting foule language against Princes Church and Bishops but what I have already produced is sufficient to demonstrate that one conversant in his Schoole must quickly discover him altogether destructive of all order in Church and State But before I go any further I cannot but wonder that the pretended Bishops in England did not see themselves Mar-Prelates I mean destroyers of their owne Government put Deane and Chapter to boot and consequently of their Church whilest they sided so strongly with Luther and magnified his reformation which to do was co ipso as you may read in his words utterly to abolish Episcopacy and to cut their owne throats O insensari● O senslesse and unwise men what bewitcht you into so blind a stupidity as not to see so palpable an error and contradiction in your practise Secondly take this Dogmaticall point of your other grand Reformer Calvin all Catholikes declaime against it as most execrable blasphemy touched by D. Carier in his Letter That God predestinates to evill That he is the Author willer and promoter of what men call evill as well as of those they call good actions and then tell me what rationall check you can find against any crime how enormous soever be it treason or rebellion against Church or Prince with the slaughter of both be it blasphemy against God or Deicide it self as far as humane malice can reach towards it hath not the perpetrator a ready protection to justifie his fact God predestinated him unto it God would have it so who must not obey God or who may lawfully resist
out I say of their Seas of Government their Seats in Parliament out of their meanes and liberty into poverty and prison Why not trench on all mens proprieties and violently despoile them of their fortunes as well as former times for Reformation sake impropriated to themselves the Church and Abby-lands from their first true owners casting the Monks Friers and vowed Nuns a begging into the world D. Carier observed nor did he alone that Church and Abbey lands did seldome thrive with their new holders If I tell you now that the present ruine of a flourishing Kingdome is but the naturall off-spring of the old injurious depopulations of the Churches and Abbies you will hardly know how to refute me Why may not this present Parliament damne the Common Prayer Book first invented in Edward the sixths daies and afterwards confirmed by Act of Parliament in Q. Elizabeths Raigne since the birth of many now alive no long prescription as well as those of their times damned the Masse which was as ancient in England and generally throughout the world as Christianity it selfe Why may not King Charles that now is whom I honour and love from my heart as it is the duty of all Subjects to do in whatsoever Countrey they live overthrow the Reformation he swore at his Coronation to maintain as well as King Henry the eighth and Queen Elizabeth introduced their severall Reformations contrary to the old Religion which they found in the Kingdome and swore at their Coronations to preserve with all her Rights Liberties and Priviledges would King Charles be more perjured then they or his perjury worse then theirs why may not this Parliament yea particular Subjects rebell against their Soveraigne for a better Reformation as well as the Lutherans in Germany rebelled against their Soveraigne Charles the fifth to bring in their Reformation and to abolish Popery or to omit others all applauded justified and abetted by those of the reformed Churches as the Scots rebelled for the same end against Queen Mary our Kings Grandmother afterward beheaded in pursuance of the same cause you tell me I do C●me●in●m movere I desist with the proposall of one onely question more when the present Agitators of Reformation have purged themselves of all the pretended Religion they had eight or nine yeares ago and raised their work to a higher pitch then they have 〈◊〉 thought on will it not still be subject to a Babilonian confusion Why may not the children of the present Reformers cut the throats of their fathers and condemne them for ignorants or superstitious and rescind all the Acts of their predecessours for a better Reformation according to their new spirits as well as these present cut the throats of their forefathers undoing at a breath what bad been so long a doing in the Kingdome Damnosa quid non imminuit dies Aetas parentum pejor avis tulit Nos nequiores mox datura Progeniem vitiosiorem Joel ch 1. Where Grandsires Erukes are their issue may Wild Locusts prove next comes in Joels list The Bruke a plague of worse and greater sway And what comes then a blast or burning mist Thus men in tract of time from bad do fall To what is worse from worse to worst of all To pretend that what the present or past Reformers did was all done for the truth for the glory of the Lord for the light and liberty of the Gospell to abolish Idolatry and Superstition to ●nthrone Antichrist the whore of Babylon the Beast of the Apocalyps and the like is more then childish simplicity there is no Reformer so forgetfull or stupid but by his spirit pretends Scripture the glory of the Lord the light and liberty of the Gospell the planting of saving truth c. and whosoever is opposite to his spirit is Antichrist the Whore of Babylon the Beast of the Apocalypse and therefore must be pulled down whosoever he be Nor can it availe at any time to say that hitherto the work of Reformation hath been in fieri or in doing as some say Qu. Elizabeths broome did not sweep clean but now is in facto esse Now it is come to a Non plus ultra perfected beyond all addition or alteration this I say can never availe nor stop the confusions as long as the reforming private spirits for the pretences already specified which will never be at an end or the Calvinian Doctrine of Predestination sayes No. Perhaps the present pretended Bishops and the Party suffering with them may say The old Reformations against the Catholikes were good and necessary but the meanes used to begin and promote them naught and not to be imitated And that if there be any farther Reformation to bee made it must not be by prosecution of the old unlawfull meanes Their suffering by the meanes used for the present further Reformation makes them condemne the old This comes now too late they should have condemned them long ago before their testimony became invalidated by their private interest Certainly Luther and the first late Reformers never acknowledged the meanes they used to be naught or unlawfull And why should wee think the present or future Reformer will ever hold the meanes necessary for his ends unlawfull Endlesse then is the confusion of Church and State in England to be no end of sticklings and rebellions no end of our wounds and bloudshed no inheritance more intailed upon our posterity then violation of humane and divine Lawes nothing more certain then eternall damnation of mens souls as long as the first Reformers principles stand in force and their Reformations applauded Behold more then sufficient cause not onely not to wonder at the late conversion of divers learned Schollers to the Roman Fai●h but to admire that more do not follow their examples Behold more then sufficient cause for those that pretend to any feare of God or care of their own soules by regard to Religion or manners to the spirituall or politike weale utterly to anathematize all Reformation in Faith with the damnable principles of the late Reformers the sources of all the evills our Kingdome now groanes under Consequently behold more then sufficient cause for all to rank themselves into the number of Catholikes who have now the same unchanged Religion they had before this present Parliament and then had the same they had in the reigne of K. James ●u Elizabeth Qu. Mary K. Edward 6. and Henry the 8. in whose dayes the Reformation was commenced in Germany and through too generall a loosenesse in manners and desire of sensuall liberty began to creep into England as all Histories can evidence unto you Nor can any desire a more pregnant testimony of our being now and in former dayes of the same Faith without variation of one tittle then our reformed Adversaries are ready to afford us who have for the times past and still doe persecute us not as new Sactaries with old Lawes but with new Statutes for non-conformity to their new Reformation and
and the love of my Friends and Countrey This griefe of soule growing now desperate did still more and more increase the infirmities of my body and yet I was so loath to become a professed Catholike with the displeasure of your Majesty and of all my honourable and loving friends as I rather desired to silence my judgement with the profits and pleasures of the world which was before me then to satisfie it with reconciling my selfe unto the Catholike Church But it was Gods will that ever as I was about to forget the care of Religion and to settle my selfe to the world among my neighbours I met with such humors as I saw by their violence against Catholikes and Catholike Religion were like to waken my soule by torture rather then bring it asleep by temper And therefore I was driven to recoile to God and to his Church that I might find rest unto my soule 11. And yet because I had heard often that the practise of the Church of Rome was contrary to her Doctrine I thought good to make one triall more before I resolved and therefore having the advice of diverse learned Physitians to goe to the Spa for the health of my body I thought good to make a vertue of necessity and to get leave to go the rather for the satisfaction of my soule hoping to find some greater offence in the Service of the Church of Rome then I had done in her Bookes that so I might returne better contented to persecute and abhorre the Catholikes at home after I should find them so wicked and Idolatrous abroad as they were in every Pulpit in England affirmed to be For this purpose before I would frequent their Churches I talked with such learned men as I could meet withall and did of purpose dispute against them and with all the wit and learning I had I did both justifie the Doctrine of England established by Law and object the Superstition and Idolatry which I thought they might commit either with the Images in the Church or with the Sacrament of the Altar 12. Their common answer was that which by experience I now find to be true viz. that they doe abhorre all Idolatry and Superstition and do diligently admonish the people to take heed thereof And that they use Images for no other purpose but only for a devout memory and representation of the Church Triumphant which is most sit to be made in the time and place of prayer where after a more speciall manner we should with all reverence have our conversation amongst the Saints in Heaven And for the B. Sacrament they do not worship the Accidents which they see but the substance which they believe and surely if Christ be there truly and really present as your Majesty seems to grant he is he is as much to be worshipped as if we saw him with our bodily eyes Neither is there any more Idolatry in the one then in the other If our B. Saviour himself should visibly appeare in person as he was upon the earth Jewes and Infidells would hold it for Idolatry to worship him and would crucifie him again and so would all Heretikes also who refuse to worship him in the Sacrament where he is really present 13. After divers other objections which I made not so much because I was not as because I desired not to be satisfied I came to the Popes supposed pride and tyranny over Kings and Princes and told them of the most horrible Treason intended and practised by Catholikes against your Majesty which hath not yet been judicially condemned by the Church of Rome They all seemed to abhor the fact as much as the best Subjects in the world and much more to favor and defend the authority of their Kings and Witnesse their loyalty to the King in these late warres Princes then Hereticks do And they said that although your Majesty were out of the Church yet they doubted not but if complaint were made in a Judiciall proceeding that fact should be judicially condemned In the mean time it was sufficient that all Catholike Writers did condemne it and that the Pope by his Breve had condemned it exhorting the Cathelikes of England to all Christian patience and obedience As for any other authority or superiority of the Pope then such as is spirituall and necessary for the unity of the Church I have met with none that doe stand upon it 14. So that whereas my hope was that by finding out the corruptions of the Church of Rome I should grow farther in love with the Church of England and joyfully return home and by inveighing against the Papists both enjoy my present preferments and obtaine more and more I saw the matter was like to fall out cleane contrary It is true indeed that there are many corruptions in all States God hath no wheat-field in this world wherein the Devill hath not tares growing and there are no tares more rank then those that grow among the wheat For optimi corruptio pessima and where grace abounds if it be contemned there sin abounds much more But seeing both my reading and experience hath now taught me that the truth of Christian Religion now taught and practised at this day in the Church of Rome and all the obedient Members thereof is the very same in substance which was prefigured and prophesied from the beginning of the world perfected by Christ himself delivered to his Apostles and by them and their Successors perpetually and universally in one uniformity practiced untill this day without any substantiall alteration And that the new Religion of England wherein it doth differ hath no ground but either the pleasure of the Prince and Parliament or the common cry and voice of the People nor no constancy or agreement with it selfe what should I now do It is not in my power not to know that which I do know nor to doubt of that which I have spent so much time and taken so much paines and bestowed so much cost and made so many trialls to find And yet I know if I should yeeld to be reconciled to the Church I should be for this world in all likelihood utterly undone and that which grieved me more I should be rejected of your Majesty my most redoubted Lord and Master and despised by all my deare friends and lovers in England 15. These were in my thoughts at the Spa which did so vex and afflict my soule as that the waters could do my body no good at all but rather much hurt Neverthelesse I avoided the company of Catholikes abstained from the Church and did both dispute and write against the Church of Rome as occasion was offered I still hoped that time would give me better counsell and therefore resolved to go from the Spa to Heidelberg to do my duty there In the meane time I thought with my self it may be God hath moved His Majesties heart to think of peace and reconciliation I know his disposition was so
in the beginning and I remember M. Causabon told me when I brought him out of France that his Errand was nothing else but to mediate peace betwixt the Church of Rome and the Church of England Therefore I thought before I would submit my selfe to the Church of Rome I would write to M. Causabon such a Letter as hee might shew unto your Mdjesty containing such conditions as I thought might satisfie your Majesty if they were performed by the Church of Rome The copie of which Letter is too long here to set downe But when Mr. Causabon answered me that he knew your Majesty was resolved to have no society with the Church of Rome upon any condition whatsoever and that it would be my undoing if those my Letters should come to your Majesties hands or of those that bare the sway I began to despaire of my returne into England unlesse I would overthrow both the health of my body and the quiet of my mind and either utterly damne my own soule or greatly indanger not only my living and credit but my life it selfe also by reason of your Majesties displeasure and the severity of the Statutes made and in force against Catholikes and Catholike Religion 16. There is a Statute in England made by King Henry the 8. to make him supreme head of the Church in spirituall and Ecclesiasticall Causes which Statute injoynes all the Subjects of England on paine of death to believe and to sweare they do believe that it is true And yet all the world knowes if King Henry the 8. could have gotten the Pope to divorce Q. Katherine that he might marry Anne Boleigne that Statute had never been made by him and if that Title had not enabled the King to pull down Abbeyes and Religious Houses and give them to Lay-men the Lords and Commons of that time would never have suffered such a Statute to be made This Statute was continued by Q. Elizabeth to serve her own turne and it is confirmed by your Majesty to satisfie other men And yet your Majesty yeelds the Church of Rome to be the Mother Church and the Bishop of Rome to be the chiefe Bishop or Primate of all the Westerne Churches which I doe also verily believe and therefore I do verily thinke he hath or ought to have some spirituall Jurisdiction in England And although in my younger daies the fashion of the world made me swear as other men did for which I pray God forgive me yet I ever doubted and am now resolved that no Christian man can take that * .i. Of Supremacy Oath with a safe conscience neither will I ever take it to gaine the greatest preferment in the world 17. There is another Statute in England made by Q. Elizabeth and confirmed by your Majesty which makes it death for any Englishman to be in England being made a Priest by authority derived or pretended to be derived from the Bishop of Rome I cannot believe that I am a Priest at all unlesse I be made by authority derived from Gregory the great from whence all the Bishops in England have their being if they have any being at all 18. There is another Statute in like manner made and confirmed that it is death to be reconciled by a Catholike Priest to the Church of Rome I am perswaded that the Church of Rome is our Mother Church and that no man in England can be saved that continues wilfully out of the visible unity of that Church and therefore I cannot chuse but perswade the people to be reconciled thereunto if possibly they can 19. There is another Statute in like manner made and confirmed that it is death to exhort the people of England to Catholike Romane Religion I am perswaded that the Religion prescribed and practised by the Church of Rome is the true Catholike Religion which I will particularly justifie and make plaine from point to point if God give time and oportunity and therefore I cannot chuse but perswade the people thereunto It may be these are not all severall Statutes some of them may be members of the same for I have not my bookes about me to search but I am sure all of them do make such felonies and treasons as were the greatest vertues of the Primitive Church and such as I must needs confesse my selfe I cannot chuse if I live in England but indeavour to be guilty of and then it were easie to find Puritanes enough to make a Jury against me and there would not want a Justice of Peace to give a sentence and when they had done that which is worse then the persecution it selfe they would all sweare solemnly that Doctor Carier was not put to death for Catholike Religion but for Felony and Treason I have no hope of protection against the cruelty of those Lawes if your Majesty be resolved upon no conditions whatsoever to have any society at all or communion with the Church of Rome And therefore whilst the case so stands I dare not returne home againe But I cannot be altogether out of hope of better newes before I die as long as I do believe that the Saints in heaven do rejoyce at the conversion of a sinner to Christ and do know that your Majesty by your birth hath so great an interest in the Saints of heaven as you shall never cease to have untill you cease to be the son of such a mother as would rejoyce more then all the rest for your conversion Wherefore I assure my selfe that she with all the rest doe pray that your Majesty before you die may be Militant in the Communion of that Church wherein they are Triumphant And in this hope I am gone before to joyne my prayers with theirs in the unity of the Catholike Church And do humbly pray your Majesty to pardon me for doing that which was not in my power to avoid and to give me leave to live where I hope shortly to die unlesse I may hope to do your Majesty service and without the prejudice of any honest man in England to see some unity betwixt the Church of England and her mother the Church of Rome And now having declared the meanes of my conversion to Catholike Religion I will briefly also shew unto you the hopes I have to do your Majesty no ill service therein CHAP. II. The hopes I have to doe your Majestie no ill service in being Catholike MY first hope that your Majesty will accept of that for the best service I can do you which doth most further the glory of our Blessed Saviour and my own salvation Indeed there are Kingdomes in the world where the chiefe care of the Governor is Non quàm bonis sed quàm subditis regnent such were the heathen Kingdoms which S. Augustine describes in his 2. de Civit. Dei cap. 20. In such Common-wealths the way to be good Subjects is not to be good men but to serve the times and the turns of them that beare the sway
whatsoever they are But if it be true as some holy learned Fathers teach that in a well-ordered Government there is cadem faelicitas unius hominis ac totius civitaiis then I am sure that it must follow that in a Common-wealth truly Christian there is eadem virtus boni viri ac boni Civis And therefore being a Minister and Preacher of England if I will rather serve your Majesty then my self and rather procure the good of your Kingdome then my own preferment I am bound in duty to respect and seek for those things above all other that may advance the honour of God and the salvation of my own soule and the soules of those who do any way belong to my charge and being sufficiently resolved that nothing can more advance the honour of our Saviour and the common salvation then to be in the unity of his Church I have done you the best service I could at home by preaching peace and reconciliation and being not able for the malice of the times to stand any longer in the breach at home I think it safest in this last cast to look to mine own game and by my daily Prayers and dying to doe your Majestie the same service in the unity of the Church which by my daily preaching and living I did indeavour to do in the midst of the Schisme 2. And though it be sufficient for a man of my profession to respect only matters of heaven and of another world yet because this world was made for that other I have not regarded my owne estate that I might respect your Majesties therein and after long and serious meditation which Religion might most honour your Majesty even in this world I have conceived undoubted hope that there is no other Religion that can procure true honour and security to your Majesty and your Posterity in this world but the true Catholike Romane Religion which is the very same whereby all your glorious Predecessors have been advanced and protected on earth and are everlastingly blessed in heaven 3. The first reason of my hope is the promise of God himselfe to blesse and honour those that blesse his Church and honour him and to * No question but this will come home in the end to the Church-Prophaners of our times curse and confound those that curse his Church and dishonour him which he hath made good in all ages There was never any Man or City or State or Empire so preserved and advanced as they that have preserved the unity and advanced the prosperity of the Church of Christ nor ever any been made more miserable and inglorious then they that have dishonoured Christ and made havock of his Church by Schism and Heresie 4. If I had leisure and bookes it were easie for me to inlarge this point with a long inumeration of particulars But I think it needlesse because I cannot call to mind any example to the contrary except it be the State of Q. Elizabeth or some one or two other lately fallen from the unity of the Catholike Church or the State of the great Turk that doth still persecute the Church of Christ and yet continues in great glory in this world But when I consider of Q. Elizabeth I find in her many singularities she was a woman and a Maiden Queen which gave her manie advantages of admiration she was the last of her race and needed not care what became of the world after her owne daies were ended She came upon the Remainders of Devotion and Catholike Religion which like a Bowle in his course or an Arrow in his flight would go on for a while by the force of the first mover and she had a practise of maintaining warres among her neighbours which became a woman well that she might be quiet at home And whatsoever prosperity or honour there was in her daies or is yet remaining in England I cannot but ascribe to the Church of Rome and to Catholike Religion which was for many hundred yeares together the first mover of that Government and is still in every setled Kingdome and hath yet left the steps and shadow thereof behind it which in all likelihood cannot continue many yeares without a new supply from the fountain 5. As for the honor and greatnesse of the Turke and other Infidells as it reacheth no farther then this life so it hath no beginning from above this world and if we In Luc. 4. alibi may believe S. Ambrose those honors are conferred rather by Gods permission then by his donation being indeed ordained and ordered by his providence but for the sins of the people conferred by the Prince that rules in the ayre It is true the Turkish Empire hath now continued a long time but they have other principles of State to stand upon The continuall Guard of 100000. Souldiers whereof most of them know no parents but the Emperor The Tenure of all his Subjects who hold all in capite ad voluntatem Domini by the service of the sword their injoyned silence and reverence in matters of Religion and their facility in admitting other Religions as well as their owne to the hope of salvation and to tolerate them so that they be good Subjects These and such like are principles of great importance to increase an Empire and to maintaine a Temporall State But there is no State in Christendome that may indure these principles unlesse they meane to turne Turks also which although some be willing to do yet they will neither hold in Capite nor hold their peace in Religion nor suffer their King to have such a guard about him nor admit of Catholike Religion so much as the Turk doth 6. It is most true which I gladly write and am ready with all the honour I can of your Majesty to speak that I thinke there was never any Catholike King in England that did in his time more imbrace and favour the true bodie of the Church of England then your Majesty doth that shadow thereof which is yet left and my firm hope is that this your desire to honour our Blessed Saviour in the shadow of the Church of England will move him to honour your Majesty so much as not to suffer you to die out of the body of his true Catholike Church and in the mean time to let you understand that all honour that is intended to him by Schisme Heresie doth redound to his great dishonour both in respect of his Reall and of his Mysticall Body 7. For his Reall Bodie it is not as the Ubiquitaries would have it every where as well without the Church as within but only where himselfe would have it and hath ordained that it should be and that is onely amongst his Apostles and Disciples and their Successors in the Catholike Church to whom he delivered his Sacraments and promised to continue with them untill the worlds end So that though Christ be present in that Schisme by the power of
his Deity for so he is present in hell also yet by the grace of his humanity by participation of which grace onely there is hope of salvation he is not present there at all except it be in corners and prisons and places of persecution And therefore whatsoever honour is pretended to be done to Christ in Schisme and Heresie is not done to him but to his utter enemies 8. And for his mysticall Body which is his Church and Kingdome there can be no greater di●honor done to Christ then to maintain schisme and dissention therein What would your Majesty think of any Subjects of yours that should go about to raise civill dissention or warres in your Kingdome and of those that should f●ster and adhere unto such men It is the fashion of all Rebells when they are in Armes to * You know who have done so of late pretend the safety of the King and the good of the Countrey but pretend what they will you cannot account such men any better then Traytors And shall we beleeve that our B. Saviour the King of Kings doth sit in heaven and either not see the practises of those that under colour of serving him with Reformation do nothing else but serve their owne turnes and distract his Church that is his Kingdome on earth with sedition Or shall we think that he will not in time revenge his wrong Verily he sees it and doth regard it and will in time revenge it 9. But I hope and pray that he may not revenge it upon you nor yours but rather that he will shew that your desire to honour him is accepted of him and therefore will move you to honour your selfe and your posterity with bestowing the same your favour upon his Church in the unity thereof which you do now bestow in the Schisme and that he will reward both you and yours for the same according to his promise not only with everlasting glory in heaven but also with long continued temporall honour and security in this world And this is the first reason of my hope grounded upon the promise of God The second Reason of my hope that Catholike Religion may be a great meanes of honour and security to your Majesties posterity is taken from the consideration of your neighbours the Kings and Princes of Christendome among whom there is no State ancient and truly honourable but only those that are Catholike The reason whereof I take to be because the Rules of Catholike Religion are eternall universall and constant unto themselves and withall so consonant unto Majestie and greatnesse as they have made and preserved the Catholike Church most reverent and venerable throughout the world for these 1600. yeares and those Temporall States that have been conformable thereunto have been alwaies most honourable and so are like to continue untill they hearken unto Schisme And as for those that have rejected and opposed the Rules of Catholike Religion they have been driven in short time to degenerate and become either tyrannicall or popular your Majestie I know doth abhor Tyranny but if Schisme and Heresie might have their full swing cover the Seas the very shadow and Reliques of Majesty in England should be utterly * God grant this prove not too true defaced and turned into Helvetian or Belgian popularity For they that make no conscience to prophane the Majesty of God and his Saints in the Church will after they feel their strength make no bones to violate the Majesty of the King and his Children in the Common-wealth 10. I know well that the Puritanes of England the Huguenots of France and the Gueses of Germany together with the rest of the Calvinists of all sorts are a great faction of Christendome and they are glad to have the pretence of so great a Majesty to be their chief and of your posterity to be their hope but I cannot be perswaded that they ever will or can joyne together to advance your Majesty or your Children farther then they may make a present gaine by you They are * One may sweare it not agreed of their own Religion nor of the principles of Universall and Eternall Truth and how can they be constant in the rules of particular and transitory honor where there is Nullum Principium ordinis there can be Nullum Principium honoris such is their case there is a voice of Confusion among them as well in matters of State as of Religion Their power is great but not to edification but destruction They joyne together only against good order which they call the Common Enemy and if they can destroy that they will in all likelihood turn their fury against themselves and like Devills torment like Serpents devoure one another In the meane time if they can make their Burgers Princes and turn old Kingdomes into new States it is like enough they will do it but that they will ever agree together to make any one Prince King or Emperour over them all and yeeld due obedience unto him further then either their gaine shall allure them or his Sword shall compell them that I cannot perswade my selfe to believe And therefore I cannot hope that your Majesty or your posterity can expect the like honour or security from them which you might do from Catholike Princes if you were joyned firmly to them in the unity of Religion 12. The third reason of my hope that Catholike Religion should be most available for the honour and security of your Majesty and your children is taken from the consideration of your Subjects which can be kept in obedience to God and to their King by no other Religion and least of all by the Calvinists for if their principles be received once and well drunk in and digested by your Subjects they will openly maintaine that God hath as well predestinated men to be * Is not this now openly professed by those who would have the King called to an account c. Traytors as to be Kings and he hath as well predestinated men to be Theeves as to be Judges and he hath as well predestinated that men should sin as that Christ should die for sin which kind of disputations I know by my experience in the Countrey are ordinary among your Countrey Calvinists that take themselves to be learned in the Scriptures especially when they are met in the Ale-house and have found a weaker brother whom they think sit to be instructed in the profound mysteries And howsoever they be not yet all so impudent as to hold these conclusions in plain termes yet it is certain they all hold these principles of Doctrine from whence working heads of greater liberty do at their pleasures draw these consequences in their lives and practises And is * It now appears it is not this a Religion sit to keep Subjects in obedience to their Soveraigns 13. Here I know the great Masters of Schisme will never leave objecting the horrible treason of certaine Catholikes against your
thing to think upon such exhortations and all one as if a phantasticall fellow finding a herd of young Cattell in a close should first break downe the hedges and then cry loud to the Cattell not to venture to go out nor to seek any fatter pasture for fear they be put into the pound and if they chance to feed where they are because they have no experience of other and to tarry in the Close for an houre or two then the unhappy fellow should run to the owner of the Cattell and tell him what great service he had done him and how he had kept his Cattell in the Close by his goodly charmes and exhortations Let them say what they list of their own honesty and of their exhortations to obedience as long as they do freely infect the peoples soules with such false opinions in Religion they do certainly sow the seeds of disobedience and Rebellion in mens understandings which if they be not prevented by your Majesties giving way to Catholike Religion will in all likelihood spring up in the K. Charles feels the sad effects of this predictiō next generation to the great prejudice and molestation of your Majesty and your posterity So that whether I doe respect heaven or earth my own soule or the service of your Majesty God or your Neighbours or your Subjects my assured hope is that by joyning my selfe to the Catholike Church I neither have done nor ever shall do any ill duty or service unto your Majesty 18. But perhaps there is such opposition both in matter of Doctrine and in matter of State as it is unpossible that ever there should be any reconcilation at all betwixt the Church of England and the Church of Rome of which I humbly pray your Majesty to give me leave to shew you what I have observed 19. It is true the breach hath continued now these many yeares and it is much increased by so long continuance so that it was never greater then it seems to be at this day nor ever more dangerous to deal withall For if a man do but go about to stop it there ariseth presently a great and fearfull noise and roaring of the waters against him but yet neverthelesse the greatnesse of the noise ought not to discourage us but rather to give us hope that although it be wide yet it is but shallow and not far from the bottome as proceeding from affection which is sudden and violent and not from judgement which is quiet constant and alwaies like it self for if a man ask in cold blood whether a Romane Catholike may be saved the most learned Church-man will not deny it And if a man aske whether a Romane Catholike may be a good Subject the most wise States-man will easily grant it May we be both saved then we are not divided in God May we be both good Subjects then we are not divided in the King What reason is there then that we should be thus hotly and unplacably divided 20. Truly there is no reason at all but only the violence of affection which being in a course cannot without some force be staied The multitude doth seldome or never judge according to truth but according to customes and therefore having of purpose been bred and brought up in the hatred of Spaniards and Papists cannot chuse but think they are bound to hate them still and that whosoever speaks a word in favour of the Church of Rome or of Catholike Religion is their utter enemy And the Puritannicall Preacher who can have no being in charity doth never cease by falsifications and slanders to blow the coales that he may burn them and warm himselfe But if your Majesty shall ever bee pleased to command those make bates to hold their peace a while and to say nothing but what they are able to prove by sufficient authority before those who are able to judge and in the mean time to admit a conference of learned and moderate men on either side the people who are now abused and with the light of the Gospell held in extreme ignorance are not yet so uncapable but they will be glad to heare of the truth when it shall be simply and evidently delivered by honest men and then they will plainly see that their Light of the Gospell which they so much talk of is but a counterfeit light in a Theeves lantern whereby honest mens eyes are dazzled and their Purses robbed And it will also appear that there is not indeed any such irreconcileable opposition betwixt the Church of England and the Church of Rome as they that live by the Schisme do make the world believe there is neither in matter of Doctrine nor matter of State 21. For matter of Doctrine there is no reason that your Majesty or the Kingdome should be molested or burdened for the maintenance of Calvinisme which is as much * Indeed a true Protestant and a Papist are now almost equally odious against the Religion of England as it is against the Religion of Rome and will by necessary consequence overthrow not only the Catholike Church the Communion of Saints and the forgivenesse of sinnes but also all the Articles of the Creed saving only so much as the Turk himselfe will be content to believe which will be easie to prove upon better leisure The Doctrine of England is that which is contained in the Common Prayer Book and Church Catechisme confirmed by Act of Parliament and by your Majesties Edict wherein all English men are Baptized and ought to be confirmed and therefore there is some reason that this should be stood upon But this Doctrine in most of the main points thereof as hath been touched before and requireth a just treatise to set down in particular doth much differ from the current opinions and Catechismes of Calvinisme or doth very neer agree with or at least not contradict the Church of Rome if we list with patience to hear one another And those points of Doctrine wherein we are made to be at warrs with the Church of Rome whether we will or not do rather argue the Corruptions of that state from whence they come then are argued by the grounds of that Religion whereupon they stand and the contradiction of Doctrine hath followed the altera●ion of State and not the alteration of State been grounded upon any truth of Doctrine 22. For when the breach was resolved upon for the personall and particular ease of King Henry the eight and the Children of his later Wives it was necessary to give every part of the Common-wealth contentment for which they might hold out in the heat of affection and study to maintain the breach otherwise it was likely that in the clearnesse of Judgement it would quickly have grown together again and then the Authors thereof must have been excluded and given account of their practise 23. Therefore to the Lords and * In like manner the Members of Parliament and their Adherents have
now then in Catholike times it had but it hath never the more wealth It is but the gain of the Tellers to have more money true wealth is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he is the richest Prince that hath meanes to main●●ine the greatest Army to do most magnificent works both in war and peace wherein the facts of your Catholike Ancestors do appeare upon good Record your Majesties are but yet hoped for and if ever you have the help of Catholike Religion to assist you I hope you shall excell them all otherwise I assure my self the Schisme will do what it can to make you poore and then complaine that you are not rich It was indeed one of the main pretences in the Statutes of Henry the 8. that the Schisme might inrich the King and maintain his wars but God did not blesse it for notwithstanding No more will Church-lands inrich this Parliament or the Purchasers all the Church-lands and Goods and Tenths and Fruits and Praemunires King Henry the 8. was faine to abase his coine more then once and yet he died not so rich as his Catholike Father left him And since his time what is become of the Court of Augmentation what benefit you receive of all the Church-lands more then your Progenitors did when they were in the hands of the Clergie what case your Subjects have of Subsidies thereby or in briefe how much your Coffers are in iched you may be pleased to be informed by th●se that have to do with those offices and can readily give you an account for mine own part I have diligently read over all the Statutes made by Henry the 8. and do find that the Events are so clean contrary to the Prefaces and pretences of them as if God of purpose would laugh them to scorne 36. There is yet another objection or two in reason of State concerning your Majestie which seem to be harder to answer then all the rest whereof the one is that your Majestie hath undertaken the cause in writing and set out a booke in Print and it must needs be great dishonour to you to recall it This indeed is that which I have heard the Calvinists of England often wi●h for before it was done and much boast of after it was by means effected that your Majestie should be no longer able to shew your selfe indifferent as you did at the first but were now ingaged upon your honour to maintain their party and to oppugne the Catholikes and altogether to suppresse them But there is nothing in that book why your Majesty may not when you please admit the Popes Supremacy in spiritualls And you are partly ingaged thereby to admit the triall of the first Generall Councells and most Ancient Fathers And as for the question of Antichrist it is but an Hypotheticall proposition and so reserved as you may recall your self when you will and howsoever that booke came forth either of your owne disposition or by the daily instigation of some others that did abuse your Clemencie and seek to send you of their own Errand it cannot serve their turns nor hinder your Majesty from harkening to an end of contention For if King Henry the 8. in the Judgement of Protestants might save his Honour and contradict his Book from very good to stark naught they must not deny but that your Majesty may encrease your Honour by altering your Book from lesse good to much better 37. The other and the greatest objection that howsoever your Majesty before your coming to the Crowne and in the beginning of your Raigne were indifferent yet after the Gunpowder Treason you were so angred and averted as now you are resolved never to be friends And therefore he is no good Subject that will either himselfe be reconciled to the Church of Rome or perswade any of your Subjects thereunto It is true I confesse your Majesty had great cause to bee throughly angry and so had all good men whether Catholikes or Protestants but if your Majesty will harken to those that work their own purposes out of your anger you shall be driven to live and die out of Charity which although it be not so horrible to the body yet is it more harmfull to the soule then violent or suddain death It is hard I confesse for a private man to asswage his anger on the suddain and there is as much difference betwixt the anger of a private man and the indignation of a Prince as betwixt a blast upon the River which is soon down and a storme upon the Sea which having raised the billowes to the height is nourished by the motion thereof and cannot settle againe in a long time But there is a time for all things And seven yeares is a long time When a man is in the midst of his anger it pleaseth him not to be intreated by his neighbours much lesse by his servants but when a man hath chidden and punished untill he is weary he will be content to heare his servant speake reason And though he be not the wisest yet he is the lovingest servant that will venture to speake to his Master in such a case God himself is exorable and it pleaseth him to be intreated by his Servants for his Enemies I am perswaded there is no good Catholike in the world that can be your Majesties Enemy And therefore I doe assure my selfe that God will be pleased with you to heare them speake and not angry with me for moving you● thereunto And if your Majesty do but vouchsafe so much patience as to give equall hearing I doubt not but you shall receive such satisfaction as will give you great quiet and contentment and disquiet none of your Subjects but those only that do for their advantage misinforme your Majesty and mislead your people And if your Majesty have no such use of the Schisme as King Henry the 8. and Q. Elizabeth had and that it doth neither increase your authority nor your wealth nor your honour but rather hinder them all and deprive you of that blessing which otherwise you might expect from Christ and his Church from your Catholike neighbour Princes and Subjects and from the Saints 〈◊〉 heaven in whose communion is the greatest comfort of every Christian both in life and death then whatsoever some great Statesman may say to the contrary I do verily believe they doe but speak for themselves and that there is no true Reason that may concern your Majesty to hinder you from admitting a toleration of Catholikes and Catholike Religion that those who cannot command their understanding to think otherwise may find the comfort they do with so great zeale pursue in the unity of the Catholike Church amongst whom I confesse my self to be one that would think my self the happiest man in the world if I might understand that your Majesty were content that I should be so 38. But although your Majesty sit at the sterne and command all yet you are carried in the